I try Evoto and Aperty: Portrait retouching software side by side.

[@gcadiz]

Your dad on extreme smoothing looks like AI made an older version of you… Now the natural photo is just chef's kiss!

[@AlexLog314]

Evoto has saved me for the classic e-shop white background photos. It cleans up the floor from footsteps, it deletes stray hair, it removes wrinkles from the clothes. So if i have a batch of 250 photos to deliver, instead of spending 3 days to edit them, i spend 3 hours just for possible extra touchups, liquify, etc. My only complaint is that it is too much face centric and there are not a lot of options for body skin (cellulite, etc).

[@JackieDElia]

I find if I just photograph mannequins I don’t need to do any retouching. 😂

[@ogonzilla]

They also don't complain much! lol

[@Dmitriy.0]

@@ogonzilla On the flip side, they don't pay well.

[@ckaye]

An Aperty vs. Evoto comparison was precisely what I was looking for and based on your experiences I’m going to stick with Evoto and Lightroom as my combo for editing portraiture. Thank you Omar.

[@QuicknStraight]

I don't do much portrait photography, I was watching as an interested bystander, as it were. I can't say I was impressed by either. And I chuckled to hear that a "lifetime" licence has been whittled down to two new versions and a few updates!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I'm with you on the editing philosophy. Less is more. I picked up Evoto a while back, and although I didn't initially think I would like it, it's become a standard part of my workflow. If you are gentle with those sliders, it does a really good job for basic retouching. I don't use any of that skin-blitzing stuff tho LOL. Imagine what it will do a year from now 🤯

[@ogonzilla]

Hey Pete. Yes, subtle is king. Things are a-changin' fast!

[@KrunchyJD]

Dont agree. There should be the flexibility to over edit. You can always use the sliders less. Its about options.

[@rayanmattar8821]

After i switched from Fujifilm to canon i just can't wait until you upload a new non fuji video 😁

[@brunoalves3]

thanks very mutch. I needed this

[@steverawlins7579]

I've had Evoto for about 3 months and I now have the lifetime Aperty license. I'm hoping for some great future developments and update in Aperty because so far it seems very basic and underwhelming and I've already reverted to using Evoto for almost all my editing, Evoto wins hands down in almost all aspects. Key things missing from Aperty are the ability to touch up hair and the ability to improve the backgrounds - these some be fundamental parts of portrait editing (Evoto does these extremely well!). I was also hoping the lifetime version of Aperty would negate the need for me to buy further Evoto credits but I'm already looking at my next credit top up!

[@EduardodeRegules]

Great comparison 👍 thanks

[@AndrewBassonZA]

so which one can I buy and own and use offline while traveling ?

[@loucoffee]

Thank you for sharing this video. Always a good experience on your channel question when it says that you can download it to three or two devices that means a desktop and the iPad as well thank you for all the information that you give on your channel. I am interested in Evoto!

[@paulpelletreau3316]

Have you done a video on presets in LRC. Adobe and or 3rd party applications. I enjoy and follow your videos but haven't found one Great work.

[@LightTheShadows]

I bought the early access lifetime license for Aperty. It's a bet on the future development of this software as far as I can see by now. Not very happy with the pre-release functionality so far. Very slow and some sliders don't seem to work at all...

[@malmedia]

Yep, I got the early lifetime thing with Aperty and did a side by side and Evoto wins in almost every category. Aperty is onl a little bit better than Skylum's Luminar Neo. My hope is that Aperty gets much better overtime, so I can cancel Adobe completely. The Erase feature in Aperty is nearly unsuable after making one change.

[@ogonzilla]

It seemed very "Lite" to me. Not many features. We shall see.

[@JonathanVoor]

I think Evoto is better all around. It does body skin and better results in general. Only issue is that it does not have a plug-in and I have to export from Capture one to Evoto as a Tiff, then export to PS from C1 to do finishing touches. Also C1 won't crop edited tiffs from evoto and I don't know why. But Aperty is slow, messes with my color, and does not do full body smoothing.

[@yanis2800]

1:18 As far as I know Aperty doesn't require internet connection to work and all the "processing" stuff is just AI models initializing locally. Evoto needs an internet connection though as it counts credits and can't allow users to work offline(

[@Keyboardwarrior42]

Also it's a big privacy concern! What do they do with the pictures??

[@emmgeevideo]

I recently watched a video about the reconstruction of the Notre Dame cathedral to restore it after the tragic fire. I was interested in how they did it. The construction techniques ranged from use of modern tools and materials to the use of original tools, materials, and techniques. The result is amazing. The comments here made me think of that. A lot of them say, "Bah, humbug! Don't use that AI crap!" I guess real men use Lightroom like God intended. I believe in "the right tool for the job". What's wrong with using modern tools if they give you results you like?

[@lankenau3430]

Hi I am watching your videos looking if what camera is best to buy . May i know what are you using filming this video? And is it good to choose the Sony zve10 ii as a beginner?

[@gaudenzwaldvogel9518]

Exvotos killer feature is the removal of reflection on glasses.

[@longingbydesign]

LrC can do that now.

[@gaudenzwaldvogel9518]

@ At the moment it works only in ACR and unfortunately not on eye glasses.

[@kennethnielsen3864]

Thanks for sharing.

[@vladislavgolovnya937]

What do you think about Retouch4me plugins for Photoshop?

[@TN-ry6dq]

I have R4m Dust as a standalone Version and I like it a lot. It's a huge timesaver for cleaning up clothes. If you want, it also cleans up the whole image nicely by e.g. removing dirt from the ground, reflections and other distracting stuff.

[@삼개-p1s]

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[@RichardJPhotog]

The "per photo " business model is a disaster. when shooting a wedding do you figure 100? 1000? for your fixed expenses. I do think more would dabble into the software but a stand alone software licence would be optimal. Subscriptions are become the norm but still a pain in the yabb dabba doo

[@HappeningPhotos]

With Aperty, Is there a way to replace a background and have this automatically applied to a batch of images? This was a big selling point for me, but now that I have Aperty in hand, I can't see a way to do it.

[@isDatBoi]

I use aperty and evodo ... aperty do not perform very well on my pc and very slow

[@HappeningPhotos]

@@isDatBoi It's reasonably quick on my M1 Max Mac Studio - maybe 1-3 seconds to apply adjustments. It just doesn't simplify my high-volume batch processing of portraits much. Since I shoot on location (conference rooms, event spaces) a lot, my backgrounds often need a lot of retouching.

[@csc-photo]

Thank you for clarifying Aperty's "lifetime" license. That was the one thing that kept me from buying it - it's not truly "lifetime". Too bait & switchy for me. Perhaps if they were more transparent about it, but to be fair maybe I missed some fine-fine print. Looks like a big time-saver for higher-volume work, but I suspect Adobe will offer something similar in the way of faster portrait retouching tools.

[@redrocklead]

Red eye removal looks like he got a good strain. Did he mention?

[@TimvanderLeeuw]

Do both tools work with raw files? Since Aperty is made by Skylum I expect that yes it will, but what about Evoto?

[@steverawlins7579]

The files in the video were RAW were they not?!

[@TimvanderLeeuw]

@ I must have missed that!

[@TN-ry6dq]

Another subscription based tool 🫣

[@mark_allgood]

Would you be able to make the same review for Reblum, it is very simple soft but I’m hearing conflicting opinions

[@ogonzilla]

I exhausted after this one lol...

[@sigurdrille9693]

I work with evoto, quite like it, very many different ways to enhance your picture. The pricing is ok for me, I am no professional and the amount of portraits in my pictures is not so overwhelming. It’s easy to overdo the editing, however…

[@WassimJelassi]

Aperty only accepts Loseless compression raw files. It doesn't accept loseless high efficiency compression

[@ogonzilla]

ooo...good to know thanks..

[@quikee9195]

I guess you meant lossy "High efficiency" and "High efficiency STAR" compression.

[@tinyjansen6702]

Red eye's caused by flash, how is that after editing?

[@ogonzilla]

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I don't have to deal with flash red eye since I use mostly off-axis lighting

[@brettyg76]

I tried Evoto…but ditched it after one edit, too complicated!. Whereas Luminar Neo (I don’t have Aperty, as I have Neo and that’s enough for me)is a lot easier to edit with.

[@HappeningPhotos]

Skylum's Aperty page says in the FAQ section that it can "automatically remove backgrounds." This is not true. All it can do with backgrounds is automatically mask them and then let you apply adjustments, such as brightness, contrast and color, and a bit of blurring. Also, it cannot do this as a batch process. Very disappointed, I requested a refund.

[@marksaunders9006]

Don't spend your money. Extremely basic version on release compared to Evoto .......long way to go chaps!!

[@etuoyo]

These two applications are not even remotely close. It is like a race between a Ferrari (Evoto) and a tricycle (Aperty). This is probably the last Skylum application I will ever be buying. This is their standard MO - promise a lot, deliver very little. I get way better results with Lightroom soon softening, she adjustments, etc then with Aperty. Evoto is amazing, I just don't like the credit system.

[@Eazidosit]

Aperty sometimes doesn't do much on some pictures. Not sure if it's a big or what. It's really lacking I can do all the same things in Neo. The ai detection is the worse no improvements from their other software. Lightroom is much better. EVOTO has more to offer than Aperty.

[@606Rabbit]

Evoto credits expire- so don't buy too many at a time unless you retouch a ton.

[@steverawlins7579]

Evoto pay-as-you-go credits expire after 2 years, Annual subscription credits roll over.

[@wilsonsantos384]

I don’t have even a year and 1200 credits got expired, why?

[@robigerovasilisphotography]

I don’t know 🤷‍♀️ are we going too far with this Ai editing. I like to edit all my own work and that way I know what I’m handing out is my work from start to finish. I know there is a demand for all this for high intense working photographers but it’s just not my thing right now

[@natedagreat90]

I hate when people use skin softening on people who already have great skin. Get your lighting right and light retouch is all you need

[@adwiserr]

Try PortraitProfessional…

[@ogonzilla]

Great point, I forgot to mention that. Someone did the math and it seems impossible to "beat the system" for a deal. I bought WAY too many up front and they expire in March 25. 3000 edits to go and I've used 300 or so since March.

[@oehrlireisa]

Hello, I stumbled across this video by chance when I wanted to get some information about Aperty and thought that this comparison with Evoto could have been a bit more comprehensive. Regarding your brief comment about the problems with opening raw files, I would like to point out that this is not really well solved in Evoto either, because the Evoto plugin does not work with DNG or RAW, but generates a Tiff, JPG or PNG from it. I'm also always annoyed that Pro Photo RGB is not supported. So if you want to look into this topic again, feel free to make a longer video out of it Best regards from Germany Klaus

[@ogonzilla]

I can open and edit NEF Nikon raws in Evoto.

[@oehrlireisa]

@@ogonzilla In Lightroom? I shoot with a sony, but just for the case, with way do you open your Files to edit them in Evoto?

[@ogonzilla]

@ tiff

[@tjsinva]

Don't need it.

[@emmgeevideo]

Don't buy it.

[@KrunchyJD]

Unless there is improvements with updates, I'm not very impressed at all with Aperty. No skin smoothing of body. No dodge and burn with my copy unless in the update.

[@삼개-p1s]

완전 공감합니다/ 개선 사항 많습니다/목주름 팔자주름/단색 배경교체/텍스쳐등

[@steverawlins7579]

also no background and hair options. Basics

[@RichardJPhotog]

Not you too Omar...The Ai software companies are hitting influencers hard due to lack luster performance. Just stop. You stand to loose far more than the few bucks gained. Tell your followers: Learn LR and PS...leave the AI for the posers....people: DO NOT RELY ON AI to do the work for you. You are setting yourself up for failure.

[@ogonzilla]

I'll do what I want to do, thank you*. And this video is not sponsored as I purchased both for the business.

[@JenSheaffer-Baronmom]

@@ogonzilla I personally am GRATEFUL that you share these videos. It helps us know what to try and what we can choose. It's great that we have the freedom to do that. Thank you!

[@ogonzilla]

@@JenSheaffer-Baronmom thank goodness. That last guy didn’t get it.