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[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

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[@godtiermtg]

Hey, I have a question. At 12:00, should Shaun have chosen to not change targets of Pact of Negation, forcing Folger to pay the mana for it, given that Pongify was gonna fizzle anyways?

[@alexandercarrier9516]

um 1:47 hullbreacher ?

[@alexandercarrier9516]

never mind

[@AwesomeAustinPowrz]

Seeing Hullbreacher for one last time and it entering the battlefield at sorcery speed is just hilarious!

[@badaryman7139]

Hullbreacher giving us the parting shot by oppressing the hell out of one last game, cheers! Hahaha

[@DarkEinherjar]

For those complaining about the Thoracle win... in this game, does it really make any difference? After Folger resolved Ad Nauseam, victory was almost secured regardless of his combo choices.

[@MexiPerplexi]

Ad Naus is honestly more of a problem than Thoracle, imo.

[@oyasumi_vanilles]

Still, is Zzzzzz to watch the same wincon in every u/b deck tbh

[@ianoneill8392]

@@oyasumi_vanilles Why is the last 10 seconds of a game so impactful? The routes to get there are always different, that’s why the video is as long as it is. There’s a whole game that gets played to get there that isn’t being dramatically impacted by the combo.

[@passprioritypodcast]

@@ianoneill8392 thank you. A blessing to the wasteland known as the KZbin comment section. I don’t understand people who get pissy about thoracle wins, especially after a game like that.

[@heathbasner9276]

The no cards in the library win con is a cheap win i don't think should be a thing. I started playing during the first Ravnica Block back then if you had no library you lose due to deck out

[@DylanCEdh]

I like how Windfall and Hullbreacher are in two separate opening hands lol

[@apocalypticoreos6460]

Wait shouldn’t jeweled lotus have been countered due to Lavinia? 11:05? I am not quite sure what the wording on that card implies, so maybe not

[@msolace580]

yes

[@passprioritypodcast]

It should’ve gotten countered.

[@buddadragonmtg4848]

Man folgder is a damn good duelist. His ability to use interaction at a good time and usually get the win is amazing.

[@Fdragon1337]

Man Hullbreacher was opressive as hell bwahahaha. Folger didnt even need the thoracle this time it seems he might have just been able to smack everyone out in combat with all that life gain.

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Breacher did what it was made to do. Stop draws. It did not strip any hands this game

[@trashbat999]

i love a good flusterstorm stack. also couldn’t folger have countered the mystic remora with his mental misstep to fizzle mike’s swan song instead of countering swan song or did i miss something

[@khurgar8120]

mystic remora isnt a problem as long as hullbreacher is in play.

[@AlsoNamedChad]

@@khurgar8120 But still, targeting remora would have been the optimal choice. Something could drastically change the board state at any time, so denying your opponent the chance to accrue resources in the future, no matter how small, is to your advantage if it cost you no additional resources. i.e. You ate already casting the misstep for 2 life. Targeting swan song gives opponent a fish. Targeting fish gives opponent nothing. Both are legal targets.

[@khurgar8120]

@@AlsoNamedChad there can be a lot of reason for doing things. Everything from alliances to forcing your opponents to play differently should hull die. Ontop of that if remora is in play, will the player pay its upkeep or will he use removals for hull, thus using up resources to remove your stax piece, and if he does the rest of the table needs to consider if hull or remora is worse. Ontop of that folger probably wanted the board to be taxed somehow, so even if his hull dies remora will make the table play slower. To say that it was the optimal play only takes board state into mind, but a game is a lot more than just board state.

[@dendecko2246]

Thanks for the content. I found it hard to see the top corners of the mats where shaun was keeping his carpet of flowers. In the future just a framing thing but I'd recommend either asking the player to move the card into frame or giving an image of it somewhere else so it can be seen/remembered. Cheers!

[@weegeelinguini3704]

10:44 shouldn't Folger have countered mystic remora to make swan song fizzle?

[@nickfravel6489]

I think it doesn't matter because hes got a hullbreacher out

[@weegeelinguini3704]

@@nickfravel6489 True, but what if someone kills hullbreacher the next turn? He's still missing out on removing potential value for free

[@sylvanfranklin6904]

@@weegeelinguini3704 Yeah, I was thinking that too

[@Frosthief]

They haven’t been able to remove it sooo long and Remora isn’t a may I don’t think so guaranteed treasure.

[@weegeelinguini3704]

@@Frosthief it's a may. But still

[@Egovinco98]

11:50 after veil resolved, it would have been fine to not change targets via deflecting swat. Would force folger to pay for pact on his upkeep. also preventable by veiling after swat resolved

[@Strakneus]

So, reading through the comments I saw alot of salty "Thoracle wins boring" and "why show the episode when Hullbreacher is banned" comments... I loved the episode! I'm in complete agreement of the ban, and this game perfectly shows why! Also. The Thoracle win was hard achieved by Folger being archenemy and targeted like that most of the game. Keep up the good work!

[@Hitzel]

It still is weird to me that people can watch 20 minutes of awesome gameplay, yet still forget everything and get salty when Thoracle wins a game already won. It's like watching a new episode of your favorite anime, then rage throwing your remote into the TV because they still use the same outro music.

[@mattecatthechannel9236]

It does not matters what you fought through to win using Thoracle. Sorry not sorry.

[@mechaelbrun-kestler3868]

This episode showed why Hullbreacher got the hammer. One stax piece that slowed the entire game to a grind in a color that can easily abuse it.

[@Strakneus]

@@Hitzel exactly this. I loved the episode because it showed what cEDH is all about. Waiting to be able to go of and timing it perfectly. I don't personally play it, but I appreciate the patience and skill that is involved with cEDH.

[@DarkEinherjar]

This is one game where no one can really be mad about the Thoracle win... Folger resolved an Ad Nauseam, his victory was an inevitability after that.

[@nolife874]

I think ikra should be mvp it gave Folger enough life to play ad naus and live he was at 18 left at the lowest before starting to gain back life and spent over 20 life on ad naus to find the win

[@Fromaginator]

Heck of a fight on the second last turn

[@greyaye8565]

4:48 "Omnath, Locust of the Roil" XD

[@r3dmanMIC]

This game exemplifies *perfectly* why Hullbreacher being banned is a good thing.

[@NubRusty]

Preech

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Actually it doesn’t. It did not strip any hands. It’s supposed to be used like this. Previous games where someone wins after a wheel, is why it should be banned

[@nharviala]

I have to say, watching this after your podcast about the ban, I agree. This wasn't as interesting a game to watch, purely because of Breacher. Nothing against you guys, you definitely made the best of the bad situation, but it'll be nice to see such an oppressive card go.

[@AidanWR]

My favorite part is that this video is the first video to come out after the hullbreacher podcast. I waited to hear if this was recorded before the ban or not to make the comment

[@JonathanHecht]

really liking folger's deck, its different from the thrassios vial smasher deck he used so far

[@NachWolf]

Very happy to see a Thoracle win. Especially well earned ones. It's important to know how to play with and against Thoracle, and seeing the lines to get there are very educational. Thank you for still posting this video!

[@HighlanderHipster]

Got so hyped when I saw Rushing River... Then it got exiled turn one to a mox 😂

[@aftonlagrandeur5777]

That was a spicy game. Wish we could’ve seen the omnath deck go off a little more but still a cool game

[@LuisBarrim]

Another game that I ask "Where is Trickbind?" It stops Thoracle (killing the Thoracle user) and Najeela infinite, and can't be interacted with. (Only citing win conditions of this game). It is so devastating agains Thoracle that makes players think twice to go for that win.

[@chrisbedrin3618]

People need to recognize the value of Split Second. Trickbind, Sudden Spoiling, and Angel's Grace all stop Thoracle and Najeela (though Angel's Grace for Najeela isn't ideal), and that's the end of the discussion, no counter wars or winning over the top, just no.

[@daybreak817]

Thassa's Oracle win? This is when I like the video because it's a great win condition and the actual contents of the game matter more than the combo that ends it.

[@lucassantiagodominguez]

Good episode! After watching it, I'm more convinced that Hullbreacher didn't need to go. PS: The Sisay player almost had it. I thought it was game over 🤣

[@khurgar8120]

You saw this episode and thought "damn, hullbreacher sure didnt need a ban"? I think you are pretty alone in that thought department.

[@FPRobber]

Is that sarcasm? And if not, why?

[@lucassantiagodominguez]

@@FPRobber ​ Hi there! It wasn't sarcasm. I do not agree with the banlist in general (for me it shouldn't exist at all). But for this particular case, and in my opinion, Hullbreacher stopped the Rhystic Study and Sylvan Library players and made the game more interesting.

[@khurgar8120]

@@lucassantiagodominguez You think watching 2 players being allowed to play in a 4 player game makes it more interesting?

[@lucassantiagodominguez]

@@khurgar8120 I think stax pieces, interaction and resource denial make games more interesting, yes!

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

Green Grixis is just soooooo gooood

[@mathieulouis-jacques2600]

What is Mike's playmat and where can I get one?

[@kettutelvella122]

I love Mike's playmat. Is that available online?

[@evanpeabody6351]

Hi I am new to Cedh, currently I have one deck, Tasigur, focusing on Dramatic Scepter with Thassa/Lab man mill combo and I wanted to make something a little different with some partners I have (Tymna, Tevesh, Thrasios, Vial, Sakashima, Kraum). Could somebody give a brief explanation on some of these pairings playstyle/win cons, currently I am looking for another disruptive deck to challenge my Tasigur deck, Thank you.

[@RebellSon]

If you guys wanted a SisayElk pilot you have my number

[@einoseikkula1847]

Am i missing something, what prevents mike from searching library for an answer to krum with sisay?

[@dantemalick2872]

Wasnt Sisay an elk

[@einoseikkula1847]

@@dantemalick2872 that explains... Ty

[@waynereed836]

Loving your content guys. Learning a lot so far, but I do not know how flashing in a dual caster mage saved the game.

[@salvatorestabile5547]

Was a blocker so Derevi didn't untap his lands to be able to get extra combats with Najeela

[@waynereed836]

@@salvatorestabile5547 AHHHHH okay, makes sense, cool

[@Grand_Admiral]

Play a sweet, altered Carpet of Flowers.... and then hide it so nobody can see it. :(

[@deant01]

why didnt mike chumpblock with sissay to recast her???

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

How is Zack countering fierce guardianship with force of negation not considered playing kingmaker? What benefit does Zack get from being hullbreacher + wheeled?

[@Frosthief]

Folger not winning that next turn. They knew he had a lethal in hand.

[@Kaiser-S0ul]

Honest play pattern question: At 10:38 a Mental Misstep countering the Swan Song being used to make a flying blocker. Would it not have been a better choice to counter the Mystic Remora, as it would have denied Mike both card draw and his blocker? They're both 1MV cards so both are legal targets.

[@deant01]

he had blockers and he tryed to make the bird, i dont understand mike's line there

[@kingginger3335]

Is there a link to the Sisay deck list? I've been wanting to build her but don't know how I want to do it lol

[@christianmiller4422]

Its in the description.

[@joelreschke6200]

Why did Folger counter the Swan Song instead of the Mystic Remora? Wouldn't countering the Fish deny the flying blocker by having swan song fizzle and the fish itself.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

He kept the fish so he could potentially gain more treasures through Hullbreacher.

[@joelreschke6200]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG oh that’s right, it was still in play, very nice

[@TomGalonska]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Cute idea, but remora is a may-abillity ;) But small mistakes happen :) It was a great episode and Folger deserved to win. When the Ad-Nauseaum player goes off with 38 life, you know it's gonna be disgusting :D

[@SirSimic]

This may be a dumb question but, I check your Patreon Page quite frequently and I never see the Mox Pearl level available. Am I just missing something?

[@RossBox]

It's a limited slot # If you're an existing patron or contact on twitter. You can always rotate with one of the pearls. Some of them don't mind rotating roles to let others have a one of month

[@erayhaselton]

I think people saying boring thoracle win don't rly understand cedh lol. Like ya Folger won with thoracle but the game was over when ad naus resolved. Interesting duel between mike and Folger, a shame the other 2 seemed locked under the stax pieces.

[@Caliban_80]

I love when the stack gets nuts!

[@wonderbread840]

Man hullbreacher just slammed the brakes on the game

[@brettsutherland8390]

Damn folger played that so well

[@jasonandrews1770]

Ngl id rather they baned some of the wheel effects rather than every other card that abuses them

[@nickbowen3695]

What is Mike's playmat?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

playmat

[@bluedemonnn]

Does the Playing With Power crew believe Hullbreacher should've been banned? I know this game shows what it can do, but then again this is cEDH. Do you think cEDH should have it's own rules committee?

[@leress]

I know Ryan specifically loved the ban. He said so on his video with Jim of the Spikefeeders/CAG

[@orsettomorbido]

Really an interesting game!

[@MomirViggwilv]

People might complain about Oracle or Hullbreacher being the deciding factor of the game, but rather I think that this game is a perfect example of why Kodama-Sakashima just isn't that powerful of a partner pairing. The whole game Zack was twiddling his thumbs, not able to leverage his Commanders for value, while Mike and Folger were able to build up more dominant boardstates and handstates. For similar reasons, I think Shaun's deck might need a bit of retooling; maybe 4C Omnath instead of 3C? It didn't seem like his commander did much besides just grow slightly bigger.

[@JLH111176]

What were they thinking when they put instead on hull breacher ?

[@FPRobber]

Because that would have been the White version of the card and they really needed to give Blue a better tool to keep up with the card draw of non-blue decks.

[@rabidpickleosrs2995]

I see Omnath Locus of the Roil, I watch it.

[@scottlewis7654]

Poor Zack...

[@089Memo90]

More Shaun please! :)

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

More to come! We'll be recording a game with him on our next Patreon day :)

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

This game showed why Hullbreacher-esk effects need to exist. Hopefully we get a new one that doesn’t quite win games like Breacher did.

[@salchi-papa]

notion thief and narset parter of veils already exist.

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

@@salchi-papa and you didn’t see either this game. Despite having those options, another card similar to them is still needed

[@salchi-papa]

@@abrahamdrinkin2534 they weren’t in this game because this was before the hull breacher ban. Now that hullbreacher is banned, you’re going to see a return of motion thief and narset. Why run notion thief for 4 when you could run HB for 3z

[@salchi-papa]

@@abrahamdrinkin2534 to tack on: Narset, Parter of veils; Notion Thief; Alms Collector; Spirit of the labyrinth and chains of Mephistopheles are all valid options. The problem was pre-ban HB was just strictly better than any of these. So if you weren’t going full stax effects, there was no point in running anything but HB.

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

@@salchi-papa yeah the worse versions are going to show up because the best option is gone. Breacher was so good it was enough to leave out Thief and Narset from your deck list. Do you have a point? You’ve yet to make one

[@DarkEinherjar]

And if you were wondering why Hullbreacher needed to be banned... well, this game is a perfect example.

[@salvatorestabile5547]

This is actually exactly how Hullbreacher was supposed to be played. The boring Thoracle win as normal is why Thoracle needs to be banned

[@MaidenlessVI]

Let's go Ohio!

[@chocolateking1143]

Butttt hullllbreaaacherrrr Iss bannneddd.

[@mikebarker1306]

It’s games like this that really showcase how hullbreacher really changes the flow of a game Shows why it probably deserved the ban

[@bonedappetit3444]

How did Folger win if he didn’t pay for his pact of negation trigger?

[@diegopicchetto5250]

It didn't resolve. Deflecting Swat changes the target of Pact to Deflecting Swat, then when pact tries to resolve its target is no longer on the stack. Therefore there was no delayed trigger of pay or loose the game. :D

[@themadstudent]

@@diegopicchetto5250 Didn't veil of summer stop swat from resolving?

[@chrisbedrin3618]

@@themadstudent veil doesn't do anything to red spells. It only nerfs black and blue. So veil can't stop swat.

[@diegopicchetto5250]

@@themadstudent Veil of Summer makes it so that your spells cannot be countered, but swat is not countering. The spell is "countered" by the rules as it fizzles without a target. The purpose of Vein wasn't to protect pact but to create a window for the Ad Nauseam played shortly thereafter.

[@deant01]

does it have to resolv? paying next turn is part of it cost i believe.

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

Why don't you use Sylvan Library? Are you saying it's bad to draw one, then put it back, lose 4 and give Folger 2 treasures????

[@MrKillrpig]

Sarcasm, yes? I cant tell with text.

[@kingginger3335]

This game was a good example of why Hullbreacher shouldn't be banned

[@OnyxANZ]

shh you can't say anything logical or reddit will freak out

[@chocolateking1143]

100% true. It stopped people from abusing Easy draw enchantments. Now people can use all the draw enchantments without repercussions. What’s next? Ban fish and Library? Lol

[@kingginger3335]

@@OnyxANZ the whole argument for banning it is, well it makes some players feel bad. I understand it slows the game down a little bit and it is difficult to answer, but doesn't usually take over the game to the point that it needs a ban. I mean if Hullbreacher has to be banned, then Stasis needs to be banned also. I'm not advocating for Stasis to be banned, I'm just saying.

[@kingginger3335]

@@chocolateking1143 exactly. Should Staisis be banned because it limits people's ability to untap their lands? No. The problem is, people wanna shove every powerful card in their decks without ways to interact with their opponents. It's not my fault you're not winning. Build a better deck.

[@blinky101]

if only there were other ways to stop people drawing cards. Sadly, no other effects other than hullbreacher exist to stop card draw. Absolutely none at all

[@kristopherwatts9466]

I think this is a prime example of why Hullbreacher was banned

[@MrMcGueGue]

I'm so tired of Turn 1 Kraum

[@Styckcl]

This game show why i think the ban of hullbreacher was wrong.

[@Sajanis1]

I agree

[@zwolf4118]

I will admit I am happy that hullbreacher got the hammer. But I feel that Oracle needs to be banned

[@timtauber5557]

Pod needed more interaction. Too many things went unanswered.

[@wirakirros7281]

2 players couldn't really draw into interactions since their hands were full of draw cards while Hullbreacher was on the field. Shaun had Windfall, Ponder, and Timetwister in hand. Zack had Sylvan Library and Rhystic Study on board. But then, Hullbreacher.

[@timtauber5557]

@@wirakirros7281 well hullbreacher gone now, but narset and notion thief still exist, although notion thief has been that prevalent, perhaps it will see more play now. Regardless Cedh needs more interaction in deck in general.

[@usernameunidentified175]

Sisay is a mono white creature meaning you can only use white cards if you have her as your commander...

[@kkyle53]

Sisay active capacity cost all color, so she is a five color commander. It's not just the cost of the card, it's every color symbol on the card that count.

[@passprioritypodcast]

It’s like Najeela. Red creature but a WUBRG costed ability.

[@usernameunidentified175]

@@passprioritypodcast So is Crypt Ghast a BW creature? He's got both black and white on the card text.

[@usernameunidentified175]

@@kkyle53 She's mono white. If she's a "five color commander" then explain to me how she can be a legal target of the card Ultimate Price?

[@usernameunidentified175]

@@passprioritypodcast That makes Najeela a mono red creature.

[@aquablue3dsi]

Hullbreacher? Wasn't that beaned??? Sadge

[@sergiodelatorre9127]

You are from USA, why you keep doing webcam videos? Do irl ones quality is so much better

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Our Mox Pearl patrons are all over the world. Also, this was recorded a few months back when things weren’t 100% back open.

[@sergiodelatorre9127]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I understand, my question was only a big request and to know what are you thinking about irl videos coming back.

[@alexbrown2862]

F in the comments for hullbreacher you'll be missed

[@emarmy00]

1 Love!

[@dhov760]

After seeing your tweet about how this game is a good reason Hullbreacher is banned, I’m starting to lean more to agreeing with the banning. Obviously my opinion doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things but, I can completely see why it needed a banning.

[@dhov760]

Folger could’ve also misstepped the remora and it would’ve fizzled the swan song, and also kept the fish off the table. Didn’t matter cause Mike died immediately after but would’ve been a better play.

[@jacobclements3652]

But he had hull breacher so wanted their opponents to draw

[@dhov760]

@@jacobclements3652 ahh, remora is a may, but that does make sense. Ty ty

[@mohammadkhalifa3176]

Epiiiccc

[@eduxbleix]

Hullbreacher no ban??

[@mikes3667]

Wait a minute… Hullbreacher was banned

[@SheIt520]

Why have hullbreacher not been ban?

[@sadrobot5501]

They could perfectly have recorded this BEFORE the ban

[@neorex72]

Lot of misplays happening. Rhystic Study is a static ability it always triggers on a op casting a spell you do not get to choose if it activates. Meaning they have to pay 1 or he draws then hullbreacher triggers as it is a replacement effect also meaning Floger has a ton of mana by 5:40 which is the time into the video I am posting this. This could have very well swung the game into his favor. Very poor reading of the field so far not likening this gameplay in CEDH stuff like that cannot be misplayed as it is Competitive Elder Dragon Highlander.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Rhystic study is a may ability. While the trigger is manual, the decision to draw is optional. So this comment is way off.

[@passprioritypodcast]

BRO WHAT. I can’t watch any more of this video. You guys call yourselves a “c E d H y O u T u B e C h A n N e L” and play banned cards? I refuse to watch past 4:15. You’ve lost a subscriber and a dedicated fan. What a disgrace.

[@jasongwinn28]

I'm so tired of cEDH being "who gets to Thassa's Oracle first?"

[@Brooks0511]

Me rushing to the comments to say hull breacher is banned 😡😡😭😭😭😭 such a stupid ban

[@OnyxANZ]

waiting for consultation/pact bans so cedh videos don't end with them 80% of the time.

[@mattecatthechannel9236]

But spikes won't want that to happen because their decks will be useless since they don't have enough printed power to win the race against others. What a poor thing, aww. So sad~

[@SASORI55555]

Doubt that will happen because the RC said they will not do bans based on the cEDH needs or wants. They see cEDH communities as the smallest portion of commander players and will not indulge them if it’s not a “problem” for casual players.

[@OnyxANZ]

@@SASORI55555 the thing is, people are constantly crying about thoracle being too strong because of these combos. And with how things are going.. thoracle would get banned and those cards wont, but thoracle is completely fine without those cards existing

[@khurgar8120]

@@OnyxANZ Just locally ban it in your play group? cEDH is competitive and as such will always use the shortest ways to victory. If they ban consultations and such other wincons will come that will be just as boring to watch after a few months.

[@OnyxANZ]

@@khurgar8120 It's not even in my playgroup. Reddit is constantly crying about thoracle (when it's not the problem). Reddit's bitching and moaning is getting to the point where it's forcing bans. Meanwhile, I don't even get to enjoy watching videos because consultation/pact just invalidate games. I watch PWP because they try to come up with creative decks at the highest level, but the decks don't matter when every end is the same and predictable. cedh is getting there in variety, but this combo is one of the few things making it boring.

[@1Fsypro]

Wow a thassa victory riveting

[@superfly2378]

Gotta love old recordings, I can understand not wanting to waste footage but cmon, half the reason these videos r watched is to see how the meta/strong decks r played so u can take that information back to ur cEDH table and win more games. If u have banned cards in the decks it takes away from that heavily, especially if it's a banning as prevalent as Hullbreacher.

[@Jaakington]

So after bans there should be like 1 month without videos lol? They edited mention about ban on the video which is just fine since accually the other half wants to see spicy games.

[@Bammab127]

Thoracle yet again...

[@michaelgerard2]

Wow thassa's oracle won. Good thing we are banning hull breacher right guys? No need to ban thassa's first.

[@murdermastodon7469]

They got the win because hullbreacher prevented the other players from drawing answers in time….

[@SamuelKacerik]

No way in hell Zack loses this game with Hullbreacher banned.

[@jenas3958]

@@murdermastodon7469 he played Hullbreacher at sorcery speed. That could have been a narset or notion thief and the outcome of the game would be the exact same

[@khurgar8120]

@@jenas3958 Not true at all. You cant decide to attack hullbreacher but you can attack narset.

[@gbasso666]

Cool game, but an obnoxious amount of cEDH games are being finished by thassa's oracle. It's getting kinda boring.

[@Razzia334]

Oracle win? Cool, skip.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Comment about oracle win? Cool. Downvote.

[@Razzia334]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG comment about your comment. Cool. Respect.

[@stevegallardo4500]

Yawn....another oracle win 👎👎👎

[@benjaminwilliams2859]

another thoracle win

[@ignalol]

Another thasas win... unsuscribed, maybe when cedh changes a bit a will come back.

[@passprioritypodcast]

Coward

[@thifelicii]

I’m sorry guys. I really enjoyed the game. Buuuuut the thoracle combo is sooooo boring and predictable.. kinda make the Victory pathetic.

[@passprioritypodcast]

I hope you realize that after Folger’s Ad Naus resolved it didn’t really matter what he won with. He had most of his deck in his hand. It was a well earned victory and a great game to watch.

[@thifelicii]

@@passprioritypodcast bro just take my point of view. He fought so hard to win.. and after the Ad Naus we were all pretty sure he would win. But with thoracle ? It Seems that 50% of the todays cEDH victories were by thoracle combo. Boring. My opinion.

[@thifelicii]

@@passprioritypodcast however I agree. Outstanding gameplay. Really good to watch.