ON 2 Wheels! I Push The New KIA Sorento To The MAX Off-Road!

[@tboneh7368]

Not surprised. This is the same trail Nathan just cake walked with the Honda Passport and it was covered in snow! Kia AWD system matched with DCT still sucks.

[@zachc1297]

We have an EX that we got for just over $30k, 2021 February. It does great in the snow, relatively deep snow too. Does fine on dirt or rutted roads. Tires are pretty bad stock for anything other than that. Its plenty fast with a very full load, and the safety combined with lane keep and adaptive cruise make it a great road trip machine. Also gets pretty solid MPG too if you drive it right. It just isnt made for much more than that.

[@davidzavala337]

That's a good deal. In my area (SoCal) they all have crazy mark ups. I want a hybrid, due to $5.50 a gallon and my 90% city driving.

[@kustu]

Yeah well it's not meant for off road use. It still has the best AWD system out there, but still it's not great when it comes to off road.

[@ayhamsaati7476]

I have the same model EX and I absolutely love it

[@ChicagoOutfit1900]

Remember when Kia had that commercial with the Sorento in MOAB? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chadex77]

More like NOOOOAB!!! 😏 But it’s still a nice SUV especially the interior!

[@atmartens]

Yeah… this is embarrassing.

[@JRs-guitars]

I remember that! And then Jeep had a video making fun of them! Lol

[@tunanocrust2642]

We have a new XLine, WHAT A HUGE UPGRADE from the previous gen. We love ours. The ride is way sportier than the last version (a plus for us), the turbo motor is so much faster than the last gen v6 (at CO altitude), and the transmission is so much faster and smoother (than the last gen), and the interior is a big step up from the last gen as well. IMO the new gen is 5x better than the last gen we had. I mean i wont be offroading our Xline like this, but overall a huge upgrade for Kia SUVs The Kia Dealership said the '23 telluride will get the new sorento interior. The Sorento has surpassed the Telluride in tech for '22

[@jcabrera8425]

Yeah I got a 2021 xline and love it as well specially like you said the sporty ride. I feel like the Sorento don’t get the love it deserves. ✌️

[@92ASC]

The last gen (2016-2020) was FAR more capable off road, surprisingly so. The traditional 8 automatic speed with the dymamax AWD system and V6 engine was a perfect drive train setup.

[@damilolaakanni]

If you really want to take the Sorento offroad without breaking anything, the first gen is your best bet. They may not look very cool but it's probably the only body on frame Sorento before they went to unibody for the next generation.

[@marccouture38]

@@damilolaakanni yes 1st gen was a real 4x4 not an AWD and where king of offroad inside Kia line up.. 2nd gen was a crap... 3rd gen V6 AWD lacked of ground clearance but was capable of some soft offroading , specially the 2019 when they upgrade from 6 spd to 8 spd tranny... 4th gen have dual clutch, witch is NOT for offrading anyhow... where the 3rd gen was a kinda "do it all" meaning average in everything but can do all (no Kevin, you cannot do rockcrawling in this), the 4th gen is mostly an asphalt vehicule but city folks won't crap their pant hitting a dirt road (wich ISN'T offroading) at 60... IMHO

[@EGGINFOOLS]

All the sounds of the interior sounds like a hospital room

[@mybusiness6125]

It's a very nice onroad family hauler. It's not an offroad vehicle. Get a Jeep if you need that. 99% of these will never go offroad and Kia knows this so it suits their target market just fine.

[@dmorehouse774]

I had a 2008 Sorento and it was body on frame V6 actual 4wd. It was a really good vehicle. Kia should have kept the body on frame setup for the Sorento.

[@psychologicaltirefire8190]

The move to a unibody isn't that big of a deal to me, but the dumping of the low-range would be a deal breaker to me.

[@krane15]

Its ironic that the Sorento (and its original off-road capabilities) was the car that introduced Kia to mainstream America. Unfortunately, times changed and its off-road prowess waned over the years. These days the masses are more concerned with on-road comfort and Kia had to adapt or lose sales.

[@dustinherrick3360]

I was skeptical that videos from tumbleweed would be as good as those filmed on real trails. But this was incredible, Tommy really went for it. Fantastic job gentlemen.

[@Salty_reviews]

It's pretty safe to say the world needs a solid axle 4 cylinder compact SUV.

[@Moab12]

You mean like a 2 door Jeep Wrangler with 2.0 turbo?

[@ju.bu.1701]

like....a Jimny

[@Salty_reviews]

@@ju.bu.1701 Exactly, we need one state side

[@Salty_reviews]

@@Moab12 That would work too. Haven't seen any at my local dealer 😞

[@jeffrentsch4318]

My 1995 YJ is solid axel and 2.5 angry squirrels 4 cylinder. Best is it has a manual transmission (sadly it is Ax5), with not strong syinronizeres.

[@DC-tv2hp]

I have a sorrento and use off road quite a bit. I put Falken mud and snow tires on instead of whatever goofy tires this guy is using and seriously I'm surprised how much off road traction I get.

[@sneakersonfeet9045]

You’ve done 99.9% more off-road in this Vehicle, then All the Soccer Mom’s that are buying these things at $5,000 over sticker! They do look nice though! Kia is killing it lately…..

[@redeyezreaperx1601]

My 2019 could have done this easily. V6 ex plus. With lock. 17 inch off road wheels. Done!

[@robervin9107]

I’m loving the tommy content

[@regsparkes6507]

DCT and CVT equipped vehicles are now off my wish list. That is until somebody can prove to me that they are superior. Watching Tommy maneuver this Sorento around the Ranch, makes me wonder, " Did the folks at KIA have that kind of driving in mind when they designed this one?" From the looks of the tires that it's equipped with, I'd guess, not.

[@yissibiiyte]

DCT's are fantastic.....for the road. They're the single best type of transmission in terms of performance and sportiness. They just suck off road. If you spend the vast majority of your time on road then there's no reason not to get a DCT.

[@regsparkes6507]

@@yissibiiyte OK then, I'll go right out and buy one.

[@99dethknight99]

Had an 06 sorento v6 4x4 manual transmission. Thing could offroad pretty damn well and I don't mean dirt roads

[@allendavid4139]

I 70 on a snowy day would be a good test.

[@arieljaquez5444]

I have an 11 Sorento and took it to the beach all the time to fish. Only got stuck once, but i don't have awd either.

[@mak450]

This might be a stupid idea, but just to keep some scratches at bay have you guys thought about applying some painters tape to the chins of these things? Just for sandy pits like this.

[@wtfchazpwnt]

Fun to see this thing put to the test. Did better than I thought but it's definitely not an offroader.

[@krane15]

To be fair, tires are a big part of off-road, and this car was wearing street tires. That's equivalent to a sprinter running in flip-flops.

[@arieljaquez5444]

Driver isn't an offroader either.

[@CommuterAndCoffee]

Please get the hybrid out there I’m very curious. I put Yokohama all terrains on mine and it handles the Michigan snow well but never took it legit off road.

[@Sup_ERS_Tar]

Off-road with this tire is hilarious.

[@TheGeorgiaRover]

Off-road with this vehicle is hilarious. 😂

[@PrincessTS01]

it needs better tires, needs a lift kit and a disconnectable sway bar

[@fantomtuba]

We need "Roman's Stones."

[@karlki8]

New to the channel. If you guys havent done some off-road related videos with the telluride, it'd be nice to see that from you guys.

[@sergeantschlumpf6368]

Kia took one to Moab w/ off-road tires to moab in 2019 I think..

[@marccouture38]

that was 3rd gen... not the same AWD system, and no dual clutch. also it was with a 3.3L V6 290hp. They also disconnect the swaybar for this video

[@kiwiramjet5625]

I really wish the clay colour was an option in Australia for the seats! They look so good, and are more practical in the scorching sun over here

[@lecanas1]

Can you do the same with a pilot awd touring?

[@jayhiggins5239]

Lets remember that KIA is the one that placed an X-Line badge on the car. At $43,000, you have to expect someone will want to compare it to a V6 Cherokee.

[@jcabrera8425]

As a 2021 Kia Sorento sx prestige xline owner I love it. Now I do live in Los Angeles and don’t do much off reading so it’s mainly for regular roads and every day driving but we love it. I love the look and the sportiness. It’s just been good. Only thing is I wish I had more trunk space but other then that not much to complain about. I would recommend to a family. Fun to drive for me. It was my first SUV but if I was to change it would just be because I want more space so what do y’all recommend?

[@krane15]

The trunk space is a compromise for the 3rd row seats. You have to choose or get the Telluride.

[@Fix_It_Again_Tony]

Isn't the DCT a wet clutch type? I suspect you are smelling the brakes as the AWD system tries to bias torque to the wheel with more grip on each axle. This is clearly a vehicle designed for on road use. Kia wanted a piece of the expanding "adventurer" market and did what they could to make this more off road capable, which is to say not a lot. Ths is NOT an off-road vehicle. However, this look like a great vehicle for most people who want to camp in a state forest a couple times a year, and commute to work or soccer practice the other 363 days. Considering those tires the AWD and traction control systems do a pretty decent job in the situations where you had opposite corners unloaded.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

DCT is definitely a wet clutch. So you’re right when you put he’s smelling brakes. The DCT is a massive letdown for this vehicle. Last generation was far more capable than this year.

[@FirstNameLastName-hy2iz]

Made it out of Nathan's Crack both directions today...LOL can't get over it.

[@kennedy9072]

Test the new 2022 Mitsubishi Outlander and do a comparison vs the new Kia Sportage off-road (CVT vs DCT).

[@lolotus4borderless]

Gosh would love to see the Mitsubishi on this course

[@WW-wf8tu]

I would like to see the Hybrid version perform those same tests. Perhaps its abilities with the EV torque will improve the results.

[@kassatiekue6146]

How do we swap for bench seats instead of captain seats on the higher end trims? Been trying to find that answer but have not found it yet.

[@jfaas44]

You guys are awesome. Your new adventure will make you dominate truck and car reviews. Tumbleweed- put the money into the test track and you will reap the benefits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@gardenst4398]

Like the fog lights👍...advantage in rain or snow with 3000k leds......when all other cars dont offer it😳😳

[@regsparkes6507]

Maybe because of the 'blinding' effect for oncoming drivers? But for the KIA driver they do offer some help in visibility don't they/

[@mangolighters]

The lack of off-road capability is literally the only thing making me lean towards a Bronco/Jeep as opposed to a Kia/Hyundai. Other than that they are killing it.

[@xirozar]

Apparently X-Line in Kia means off road looks, and the upcoming Sportage X-Pro will be the offroad trim. We will see if that is actually really effective. This is like their current GT (is sporty) and GT-Line (looks sporty)

[@krane15]

@@xirozar That's the point of this test. It confirms the "off-road" is all looks.

[@ILOVEBACONBOY2018]

Well...I like the moon roof.

[@crazyone1067]

All the chimes remind me of being on a plane. 😂

[@k7gixxer1000]

Ford threw the "Rust" in for free with Andre's F-150 :)

[@joehastain5690]

hahah braw - maybe i do need some of that tegridy weed over in Colorado - although taking the sorento through the paces was hilarious enough.

[@blazbohinc4964]

Is sorento dry clutch? I thought these high torque engines come with wet clutches

[@sebastianromero420]

The hybrid would actually handle that with no issue. 17” with 265/70/17 general grabbers

[@krane15]

Maybe. But the point is to be able to BUY that car. Not option it aftermarket.

[@andystuder8084]

Do you think the non turbo would do better with AWD ? Seems like the dual clutch heats up quickly 🤔

[@krane15]

Only if you do what he did. Are you planning on driving over ditches? Anyway, don't buy an SUV in a 2WD.

[@getlosttoday4045]

Killed In Action (KIA)

[@davidzavala337]

I want a hybrid AWD. I don't need luxury, just the space and to save on gas, which as of March of 2022 here in SoCal is $6. Plus, I drive mostly city, so a hybrid us a must plus I don't want dual clutch, since for bumper to bumper traffic suck.

[@krane15]

The hybrids uses a conventional 6-speed automatics. So that's for sure. Just keep in mind that the plug-in hybrid only get superior fuel economy while it operates in electric configuration. If your commute is under 30 mi then you use no fuel. If I recall correctly, the plug-in hybrid only comes in AWD. Once it switches to the gasoline engine, your mileage will be worse than the ICE models. Unless you're getting a healthy federal/state rebate, you won't be saving any costs overall.

[@ruukusanla]

what model was this. doesn't seem to be AWD? oh he finally said it.

[@Baked13]

... every weekend warrior should be forced to watch these videos , to know the limitations of all awd vehicles ...

[@beowulfgrendel24]

Wife loves her Sorento and that car is the reason I bought a Santa Cruz as a daily. Thing is fasted and more efficient than the trail hawk I had with the 5.7. Although I do miss the air suspension

[@CraigSmith568]

These vehicles make me miss the days when a regular sedan would fit 6 with enough trunk space to park this car in.

[@davidsworld3603]

Why not review the inline 4 -cylinder? That one is gonna do way better off-road...right?

[@DJP1997]

Patiently waiting for the explorer timberline off-road review

[@Ram14250]

This is why I bought a Honda with i-VTM4.

[@LukeRT]

Makes me wonder if you put some normal AT tires on how it would differ instead of the city tires

[@marccouture38]

yes and no... the AWD will respond the same, so no on term of that, but yes in the end is always a question of torque available vs friction coef... even if you put a real 4x4 low gear full lock vs a 0 friction coef... it will stay there spinning like hell... so having more friction is always better and will change the outcome but the ways the AWD works won't change... the delay and the weel spin will stay there,

[@krane15]

Traction is key. So proper tires are far more important that any AWD system. Regardless of how sophisticated it is.

[@jimmyz5831]

Love the shows. Moved to Denver just to be close. Sounds good anyway. Please!, please!, please! do a show or series on plug in electric vehicles. I think the world missed the boat with the all electric car and the answer was there all along. Don't need to dig up the earth to make larger batteries, 90% of operation would be electric. Don't need to install fancy chargers in the home and don't need charging stations all over. What's wrong with America?? You could be the ones to break the story! See you in the mountains.

[@willianyoon869]

How were you able to get the interior brown? North America doesn’t have that cokor

[@krane15]

I believe the tan seats are an option. Also, manufactures do change their available equipment (add/delete) at any time.

[@Andrew-zx9wx]

“Driving down deep into Nathan’s crack” 😅

[@Silverback_GMT410]

This car should not have a 3rd row

[@krane15]

Nobody says you have to use it.

[@speedRacer05]

It bothers me that manufacturers falsely claim that power will go to the wheel with grip.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

They’re not lying. It’s just that the amount of power sent is minimal 😂

[@ericlamontagne8158]

I appreciate these reviews, but I wish there was a way to see performance with tires that are actually meant for the terrain you're on. We all know the stock tires are generally never up to the task at hand and holding back the true capability of many vehicles that you test.

[@petermavus4131]

Yeah but I guess it can conquer mall parking lot!

[@coryernewein]

KIA with the forward innovation to do factory rust🤣😂

[@tonydunaganjr2184]

Wrong tires 😂, I put trail terrain xl tires w stock rim on mines and it looks badass

[@Dia1Up]

It's so weird, the Canadian Sorentos have the full terrain modes like the Telluride. I wonder if that would have helped off road

[@krane15]

The modes are fake, as you can clearly see by this test.

[@dremade3332]

45k?!?!! I’d buy and 4Runner, Bronco, or Jeep before I spend that on a KIA

[@DarkWireWave]

Lol all those other vehicles are like 1.5x the price when you equip them with the same stuff as the Kia. If you got $70k then sure…

[@ronijr4918]

@@DarkWireWave Do your research. A 4runnee isn't $70k quit been a kia simp.

[@youngblood23rb]

Sorento vs. Pathfinder?

[@scottbecker3563]

what's the VIN #?? I don't want to buy that car.... It's been beat on by Tommy...

[@LifeBeginsOnTheWater]

Great review, thanks for sharing! Billy D

[@larryruzich659]

I don't understand the point of all these video's of trying to treat an SUV like a Wrangler. Who in their right mind would drive this vehicle over these obstacles?? 99.9 % of people will NEVER attempt something like this, nor should they. Driving on slick icy or snowy roads is probably the closest anybody will come to utilizing the AWD capabilities of this vehicle. A trip to the grocery store rarely involves smoking the dual clutch to the point that you can smell it!

[@krane15]

The "point" is truth in advertising. The car come with off-road modes. What does that mean to you? This way you know -- for sure -- what you're getting for your money, and what its really capable of when it refers to off-road. The point it, you're now a better informed buyer.

[@JRs-guitars]

X line needs a little more ground clearance and All terrain tires...then MAYBE it'll hold its own against a Subaru lol. I don't even like Subaru...smh

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

You should make a video showing how incredibly different the performance of something like a Kia is compared to a Cherokee Trailhawk. People look at a Cherokee Trailhawk and think it's a Kia and it is very very far from that lol.

[@crazyeyez1502]

"Off road edition" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@f8widescat392]

I mean, it made it lol.

[@krane15]

Off-road includes higher ground clearance. It technically ticks one box.

[@crazyeyez1502]

@@krane15 yea. Truth

[@lanceripplinger8352]

Ah, nothing like the smell of smoking dual clutch transmissions in the morning...😜😜

[@jaybou007]

Huhuhu, there’s a Kia in Nathan’s crack. Never gets old. I think i’m still 12…

[@shanecahill7623]

The PHEV should be better offroad bc it has a traditional 6 speed automatic

[@saifuddinahmadable]

In todays world of Instagram and snap chat. Just like those filters, cars nowadays just slap plastic cladding and roof rails and Call it the offroad version!

[@krane15]

And that's why we have youtube and content providers like TFL. They do the testing and reveal the true for us, so that we become educated consumers. Not the suckers dealer want us to be.

[@kennethjinkins8967]

you smell the dual clutch ..... ha ha ha

[@krane15]

"Wet" clutch. But it will still overheat.

[@sergeantschlumpf6368]

c’mon kia you can do it !!!

[@PaddyBoy644]

The question shouldn’t be can it make through those tracks but should you?🤦🏻😂

[@alh5470]

nah thats a pavement queen, looks sweet though

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

At least the leather seats look really nice...

[@TMS5100]

6.9 inches of ground clearance tells you all you need to know about its "off-road" creds.

[@mohawksteel2215]

aaaaaahhhhhhhh eeeee ... welcome to da swamp.

[@jonzaremba]

Well it has nice seats.

[@poppyneese1811]

Who will be the first Manufacturer to give their 4WD’s the badge designation Nathans Crack Certified, move over Rubicon and Bad Lands, today it’s funny but in years to come customers will ask dealers is this vehicle Nathan’s Crack Certified?😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Hope Nathan makes so much money he buys the lil Suzuki back!

[@tigerbalm666]

Offroad with A/S tires??? LMAO!

[@marcohayauxdutilly4889]

compare the highlander and the pilot!!!!

[@steveng93]

i feel bad for the next owner lol

[@kevinr.9896]

You need AT tires not racing slicks

[@larry4055]

Tommy I can't help but notice every single time you buckle and unbuckle your seatbelt. You're on private land, in an empty field, going literally less than 5MPH. Are you afraid you'll hit something?

[@TFLoffroad]

no the seatbelt warning goes crazy

[@giuseppevaccaro1934]

It's a minivan, a mommy mobile.

[@krane15]

Not even close. Although its sibling Santa Fa may take on the moniker at times.

[@guniseran]

Computer can't detect the slip

[@krane15]

My feelings exactly. Regardless of everything else, there was far to much wheel spinning in this demonstration.

[@LukeEdward]

That’s a lot of vehicle for $45k. Too bad it wasn’t the vehicle you needed, when you needed it the most.

[@jasonarsenault1550]

That KIA has no business being out there

[@krane15]

And yet it did eventually traverse the ditch. So not a total faker, is it?

[@ron2366]

$45k might as well get a Telluride or Palisade

[@krane15]

If you don't mind: 1) bigger 2) heavier 3) less fuel efficient 4) less driving dynamics

[@Silverback_GMT410]

45K?! Just get an Explorer Timberline for $2K more

[@WhiteSubie]

This is why I'm sticking with Honda 💀

[@looking511]

Are you taking us to a junk yard

[@icebrakes1]

Definitely not the best tires for that clim