On the Election of a Fascist President

[@louisee7339]

If their order is so natural why must it be enforced?

[@mortishacanniba]

🔥💯🔥

[@stoodmuffinpersonal3144]

Because the nature around them is also artifical, so they can't tell the difference. They see artifical enforcement as natural

[@Exisist5151]

Gender not meaning the same thing as sex and race not meaning the same thing as ethnicity is a difference many people do not cover, and when many people refer to race or gender, they mean ethnicity or sex. And in years past, nobody gave them grief for using these definitions. People act as though the usage of the terms hasn’t greatly changed in recent years among specific groups. And because of this, you have people arguing something to be correct from the old definitions with people arguing something to be correct from the new definitions.

[@cawtisticoctobear]

@@Exisist5151not even remotely relevant to the topic, next

[@Exisist5151]

@@cawtisticoctobear Waddya mean not relevant? It’s the core of why people are so resistant to the ideas. People’s idea of gender being tied in with sex contributes to why some people believe it to be the natural order of things. How is that off-topic from the thread or the video?

[@TheJoker718]

He literally hired the author of Project 2025 to be the chief of staff of policy ☠️

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Y'all are cooked

[@guisilva9815]

​@airplanes_aren.t_real we are all cooked regardless if you live in us or not

[@Zagill]

There are many, many different authors of Project 2025. It wasn't just one dude.

[@WaverlyGarner]

I'm trans. Been a teacher for 6 years. Still teaching. In my time as a public educator, I have seen a handful of people get fired for being actual predators. With one exception, every. single. one. was a white, cis, heterosexual man. It makes me furious that these bozos think we're the problem. It breaks my heart to know that trans teachers are facing unfair scrutiny and abuse in their schools. Fortunately, there are districts that are kind and protective of their trans teachers. If your district isn't one of those, don't give up hope. You can find one that supports you.

[@ax14pz107]

They don't actually think it's true or care that it isn't true. They only want any flimsy justification for their hatred.

[@SDBaeson]

We cannot leave. Queer people fleeing is not the same as an ethnic group fleeing - hypothetically, they can all get out. Queer people cannot because we are not limited to our family (biological or not) - we are born spontaneously in every demographic. Even if every queer person could leave their Red states, more would be born before we took two steps toward the boarder. There is no safety in flight - we must stand together.

[@Pleasant_Excuses]

This hit me hard

[@eclypsaqueen7013]

why should we leave? why are we the ones who have to flee our homes? why should we be forced away at all? ours should not be a society where peoples can be forced out like a plague maybe standing our ground isn't possible for some people, and they are in too much danger to stay, but complete flight is the dream of the wealthy leaving is very, very difficult for most people, even those who are in a good place financially, which most queer people are not

[@Pleasant_Excuses]

@@eclypsaqueen7013 it's not even about some grand gesture or political statement. If we theoretically all left the country. Who would guide the next generation of queer children born into a state without us? The next generation needs us to fight for their rights.

[@ourmobilehomemakeover662]

I’m actually not queer, but I support the basic human need to be accepted for one’s authentic self, and to be safe and protected within one’s society. For that reason, I identify more with the oppressed and marginalized than I look like I should. Really, the conservative agenda of forced conformity and strong hierarchies is not healthy for anyone. Some people just don’t know it yet.

[@Xx_nickcarraway_xX]

we love our allies, thank you for being on our side ❤️

[@averiWonBTW]

aka you're a chaser

[@Hanks-pd1ge]

@@averiWonBTW its insane for you to call an LGBT+ ally and anti facist a 'chaser' wth.

[@averiWonBTW]

@@Hanks-pd1ge yeah thats how chasers infiltrate your community

[@ItWasBetterBefore]

I am thankful not to live in a red state, but there are a lot of folks in those states who won't be able to leave because they can't afford it or are underage. We need some sort of red state survival guide. Suggesting that they leave will just be discouraging.

[@urlocalghost]

YES i live in a DEEP red state and it sucks immensely 🥰

[@abblepied]

@@urlocalghostyeah and it’s so frustrating for people (especially from blue states) to look down on us or belittle us just for existing here when we really can’t control or do much here :( and now we’re all in the same horrible boat

[@Cygnus888]

Hiding, keeping your head down, lying is survival. It's not living, but it's survival. And when opportunity rises, get out.

[@cedaremberr]

​@@abblepied as someone born and raised in CA, I see it as a duty to build a place that can catch those who need to be caught. There are groups working to support people leaving. I hope we can build strong communities across state lines to help people get to safety. Some blue staters do look down on people stuck in red states, for sure. But there are comrades here, too

[@xBINARYGODx]

Pooling resources so 18+ people can get out, like a form of underground railroad - including giving someone a spare room to use until they can afford one on their own. Less whining online and finger pointing, more actually doing something.

[@mdw7751]

Feels nice to know my entire existence might be cut down to “pornography” I am literally asexual and have been celibate since I came out. I have next to zero sexual desire.

[@Kellan__they-them]

Same here, friend. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so dangerous and insulting.

[@ookamiblade6318]

@@Kellan__they-themthird that, I have endometriosis so I’m on birth control and yet they’d like to take that away so I’m not ‘promiscuous’, me, the aroace….

[@alice_atari]

The “no one is coming to save us” part is the difficult thing. I realized when Kamala Harris said “we should follow the law” to a direct question about our existence that we’d been thrown under the bus. And now even that doesn’t matter, we’re left with just the question of how bad it will get and how fast, and there being no end in sight to the right wing push also how long we will have to deal with this.

[@ytgytgy]

at this point, democrats are totally useless, and I'm pretty sure trump will just replace them or influence congress to do so until the house and senate are super-majority/full red

[@SpoopySquid]

"The old world is dying and the new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monsters." - Antonio Gramsci

[@hogweed1975]

Cis het male here. I find your notion of gender liberating.

[@nadiaesparza7964]

i'm so glad that this reached you!

[@ytgytgy]

please share this sort of attitude as much as possible around your people. they won't listen to us.

[@hogweed1975]

@ytgytgy I'm in Amsterdam. These things are less segregated here than in most of America. I didn't grow up here, I grew up in a rural area. I've always been naturally non-conforming to typical maledom, to the point that I was bullied for being gay. I do find that all over the place, "male" expectations can be very limiting. This is why I find liberation in queer literature and theory. The notion of gender has such far reaching influence in all of our lives, that it seems to me beneficial to all of us to try and be a little conscious about it. Even if one would want to be an all round typical male, if that's your thing. I don't have any issues with dysmorphia (I am close to people that do, so I have some understanding of how devastating it can be), but I find the expectations put on men (and women) in life and society to be very limiting and crushing sometimes. That's why we all need queer theory. No Trump supporters in my vicinity though. I am in The Netherlands, and we have our own brand of fascists in government right now here. They sing the anti trans song too. It's very dangerous, and very scary. Take care, everybody.

[@cjkenney]

man it is so refreshing to hear people my age speaking out against this shit. we need to start figuring out how to effectively organize and communicate about these issues in the digital era because our social media landscape makes it so difficult to discuss this stuff with friends and family without getting burnt out

[@megajk00]

It's hard. I grew up in Iowa and I love it here. The air and the sky aren't the same anywhere else. I don't want to leave it behind because a fascist is president. I'm doing things I never thought I would have to, a class on guns, jogging (🤮). I'm feeling desperate for a sense of safety and security, many of my plans for the future seem uncertain or impossible. All i know is, I want to keep my friends and partners safe... If there's any folks in Iowa watching this, reach out to me, let's connect! Especially if you can't or don't want to leave. We need to make the next 2 months count 😤😮‍💨

[@lukedmoss]

Not in Iowa but I know people there and am a huge fan of the Midwest. Sounds like you're making some important changes to better your health and put you in a better position to respond to how messed up the world is right now. Hell yeah! I'm trying to do the same.

[@maxpotiontcg]

I promise the air is exactly the same in Minnesota, please consider your safety and well-being!

[@anthysis7059]

i live in ohio and i really relate to this. also learning to use a gun, also having to take a serious look at my health and how i treat myself. i feel that i either i can succumb to feeling isolated and hopeless or i can do what i can to be there for people i love and for myself.

[@NellyNoel]

I also live in Iowa. My hubby and I are grandfathered in to our current rent rate which has us paying less for our large two bedroom apartment than someone would pay for a one bedroom in the same complex. We have a good situation and don’t want to leave unless we have to but the world and our state in general is just getting so scary

[@kristianm3181]

Without knowing how bad certain areas of Iowa are in terms of trans + nonbinary acceptance, I now live in Iowa for at least the next four years as I get a degree at UI. I love the university (for the most part), and I've been fortunate enough to find small pockets of campus that are largely welcoming, but it is somewhat scary at times, how intensely many people here hate us. I sometimes wonder where I'd be if I had actually looked into how things are here, rather than being blinded by "the grass is always greener" (grew up in TN, where trans + enby people are SCARCE). Suffice it to say, would love that survival guide.

[@aidenLjmz]

I am not American (hi from Mexico!) so I cannot truly comprehend what my trans siblings there are going through. I am deeply sorry about the political situation there and I hope all of you remain safe.

[@Phil9874]

Scared is what i would say a lot of us are. I want to get out of the red state i'm in

[@poe.and.theholograms]

Can California secede and become part of Mexico again?

[@ytgytgy]

@@poe.and.theholograms the entire west coast + NM/CO should secede to Mexico, and the upper midwest and the northeast secede to Canada. Like literally we need to do this. Show trump and his cronies they are NOTHING.

[@milii113]

Some hope to stoke the fire: while perhaps the most inopportune time to start, I just took my first dose of E after finally securing a perscription, starting a journey I've been slowly but surely been working towards for the last 3ish years after I finally was able to sort out the feelings ive repressed for the last decade. I will not be going back, and I'm doing my best to connect with local communities so that I can help others grapple with the very real gender problems many of them face. Even though it's terrifying and disgusting when I talk with people around me who were duped into following a demagogue or outright deny my existence, there are still enough bright lights for me to have hope. Frankly I don't think that we're farther than we've ever been to moving past gendered struggles and rigid aherence to structural problems with society. We are still of course far, *far* from getting there but as with most social gains we will have to suffer so the ones who follow will prosper. It's not easy and likely never will be, but I think and hope that this is the last gasp of bigoted resistance before change can occur. Unfortunately we'll all likely be dead before we have a chance to see a world unshackled by so called "natural hierarchy", but all we can really do is take one step, plant our feet as hard as we can, and take another. Much love to you all

[@leonormorais8509]

Your explanation of fascism, and liberalism, and how it related with the current world is so well put together. Unfortunately, the main take away is that we live in scary times. Stay strong!

[@maxpotiontcg]

Right now under governor Tim Walz, Minnesota is a safe haven safe for trans youth and Minneapolis is fairly trans friendly. Rural Minnesota is a bit scarier but at least the laws are on our side.

[@happycamperds9917]

If he feels up to it, I kinda hope Walz runs for 2028. He's not exactly a radical revolutionary, but he just seems like a nice guy. He's relatively middle class and pretty down to earth. He even seems to be respected by a lot of right wingers, so it could help reconcile the US after the trump years are (hopefully) over.

[@lidu6363]

A fundamental natural order is a social construct 💯

[@pbkathleen]

literally a guy i've been casually chatting with on hinge asked me how i'm doing after the election and i almost cried. the fact someone i barely know is asking shows just how grim this whole situation is and how important community and support is right now

[@lidu6363]

I believe in gender abolition not because I imagine it to be perfect, but because the gender categories seem arbitrary _to me._ I am very well aware that the vast majority of human population is strongly attached to them.

[@spencerdeycasa153]

“Is there a fundamental natural order?” yes! Love each other 🥰 “Fascists say yes” 😧oh no

[@Khepriem]

I'm stuck in a red state and can't afford to leave. I'm terrified for my life and the lives of my friends.

[@tankiegirl]

You'll be fine just like last time Trump was president

[@Khepriem]

@@tankiegirl 1. I wasn't okay last time and a friend of mine killed themselves. 2. He has significantly more power this time and has promised to do several things that target me.

[@SwiftlyCyan]

Watching my leftist friends call Kamala and Trump equally bad one day and then post suicide hotlines for queer people the next sure has me feeling some kind of way. Like thanks for that bus you chucked everyone under.

[@emilybaker9703]

They know, on some level, they're full of shit. But they can't find any other way to express their sense of betrayal and disaffection. I can understand that, but I can't forgive it.

[@oliviaqqq]

Yesterday i had a panic attack for the first time in several years, so that's fun... It wasn't politics that triggered it, but i can only assume that the fascist freight train barrelling toward me hasn't put me in the best headspace.

[@plya0]

dont give yo guys. we need eachother now more than ever

[@mehlover]

It sucks in FL since it's officially red now. I remember seeing the group of parents protecting trans kids. I fear what may happen to both of them now. Also, holy crap, did not realize Trump could criminally assassinate someone with no repercussions. Man wtf

[@mylifeismylaptop8529]

I also live in Florida and it makes me so upset how red it is now but also I think it’s still worth remembering that 43% of us (over 4.6 million people) voted blue. Even though our leadership sucks there’s still lots of good people that live here that are trying to fix it

[@Xx_nickcarraway_xX]

i go out and see trump flags and stickers and whatever, but itll never make me forget just how many of us are queer and trans and stuff, we are everywhere here and we gotta be louder ❤️ Being in florida is so hard but we can never be silenced

[@EricaCalman]

It'll mostly consist of island hopping between safe areas and avoiding the middle. It's a shame actually because anywhere you go most people are nice and mostly want to learn about people they don't know much about, but if the jurisdiction might throw you in jail for using the bathroom or you might get assaulted and know that first responders won't help you it's just not even safe to set foot there.

[@JNaysh]

Even just surviving is a form of resistance. It won't feel like living, but giving up is what they want you to do

[@kgbinfo]

This is going to be one hell of a ride. And by that I mean: this ride is going to be hell.

[@wildboargaming1858]

Your allusion to Fukuyama's The End of History reminds me: I heard a story from someone who saw him speak after 9/11 and said he was like 'sorry guys I guess it just keeps happening'

[@tomh5941]

Well said as I expected it to be. I've been avoiding most commentary but knows you would have something worth hearing. Someone sent me the most recent episode of a podcast called We Can Don Hard Things. The episode is titled Post selection Family Meeting. Wasn't a fan of all of it but some very good points about being in community were made.

[@Mad_as_a_Swan]

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Some cannot fight the same way others will, some will need greater support and shelter. Resist everything you can, in every way you can. Band together, form "Colonies" and "Strongholds" Safe Havens. Hell if the far right can build compounds why can't you, your lives are being threatened directly, respond in equal measure. / For the time being Canada is marginally safer, please feel free to try and come north; We're about a decade behind on Fascist policy giving us (you and Canadians) a little more time to organize and fight this.

[@poe.and.theholograms]

03:00 to 03:25 and 06:28 - I think the main thing is not to get so caught up on what something MEANS that we don't catch what it's DOING. I think it was in Machiavelli's "The Prince" that I first found it most clearly stated that any grab for power would benefit most from appealing to pre-existing status quos. Where I found that a few years ago was in how some trans people might get really into (too into) the histories of being spiritual authorities according to some pre-colonial customs, whereas other trans people criticize that like "stop saying we were sacred, we were and are normal; 'sacred' only means 'fetishized'!" And I understand the frustration from the perspective of trying to dig into what that means or should mean-and not contextualizing the application of that narrative. When the Lady Gaga song by the title I'm about to mention was released, I was actually against the idea of "Born This Way" because queer people were repeating that to each other as a way to consolidate subculture understanding. I saw that as only effectively applied in argument with the right-wing sound byte that claims queerness "isn't inborn, it's formed via (lightning flash) recruitment (thunderclap, heavy rain, fainting, etc)" and blah is why Heartstopper should be in the restricted section of a library blah blah. To me, at a time like this and back then...awareness of these narratives and ideas are so that they can be wielded, not internalized. Two more memorable tidbits from The Prince that I think might be useful: according to Machiavelli, getting the support of most common people via numbers is easy because the peasant mentality is that we only want to know where the next meal is coming from and to not be abused or oppressed. Machiavelli says it is EASY to give that much to people-it is SO easy. It's the people with aristocratic mentality that needs to be watched out for, because even when they're fed and comfortable and safe, aristocrats will still always want more power or more status and be willing to harm everyone else and themselves to get at it: people with aristocrat-mentality live in constant manufactured conflict. The Aristocrats.

[@lordmew5]

0:53 we can only hope for such a magnificent perfect world.

[@grmgt]

Great video. Guys, go get organized. Our collective strength is our power!

[@lukedmoss]

We have to do it ourselves... Yup.

[@desertrat814]

As a trans femme person, subscribed.

[@Toasdio]

Hey, fellows from the US, hugs from brazil! During the pandemic, we passed through something similar here, and many many fellow trans comrades have been going mad since then. But as some might say around, surviving is rebeling against what is currently happening. So, in the face of the danger, please scream. Even if you can't say the name of it, something is really wrong and trying to change it is really brave. Y'all will do it, and then it will be alright. Kisses!

[@Xx_nickcarraway_xX]

ALEX . I CANT PUT MY FEELINGS INTO WORDS BUT THANK YOU ❤️

[@Xx_nickcarraway_xX]

im trans teen in florida and so scared and you literally make me wanna keep going and pushing and make me never wanna shut up until life gets better

[@wildboargaming1858]

@@Xx_nickcarraway_xX we are here for you and love you

[@SebasDaviid]

I never thought the call of making local communities as a way of protection against a world that has the weapons to damage us fr, I always heard is as a way to make people care about others and, in a future, make solidarity the common way of thinking. I'm kinda scared rn ngl.

[@evanev7]

it's so rare to hear good political anarchy takes online. nice.

[@stoodmuffinpersonal3144]

DUDE. YOU. PLEASE STAY SAFE, MAN. ❤❤❤❤

[@ATontheDL]

Thanks for this, really appreciate it

[@maxpotiontcg]

8:01 How dare you clock me like that. 😂❤

[@wolfhaley6900]

This is extremely off topic but today in my civics class we watched a Hamilton cabinet rap battle clip to understand political parties and all I could think about was your video on Hamilton 😭

[@strangebird5974]

I always have a tremendous amount of respect for your analysis, and I know this video is also very much about the practical question of "what now?" But in your description of fascism as not being able to cope with conflict, I don't know... I have not thought this through, I don't have my own comprehensive analysis of fascism down. But I know, or rather I seem to recollect that the fascism of the early 20th century often explicitly embraced conflict as part of the natural order. Kind of "might makes right" made ethical, but of course only if it was the might of my side. I do agree, though, that fascism always seem to carry this mirage of a perfect conflict-free world with it that it is striving to get 'back' to, somehow. Conflict-free for the chosen people, I think. I read something long ago by Donna Haraway, I think, where she argued against striving for 'healing' and for striving for 'regeneration'. Or something. Maybe it was the Cyborg Manifesto or a related text. But it is close to what you are saying. The perfect, conflict-free, ideal will never be realized. But things can be better or worse, and we can discern the difference, and we can work to make them better.

[@mortishacanniba]

More like "unnatural" order.

[@angelaaris7004]

love from australia

[@jitterbug3545]

JUST realized I was trans and now this. I started T last week, and was so excited. But now I'm freaking out. I live in a red state and bought my first house at the start of the year. I'm cooked. 💀

[@tankiegirl]

You'll be fine

[@TU_BE_RRY]

hey this isnt the tom scott radio show

[@gayvervelvet]

Thank you

[@j4sm1rs]

did you know both are actually neoliberal imperialist

[@averiWonBTW]

trvthvnke

[@user-vn9ld2ce1s]

Yep. You're pretty much cooked.

[@ChangeIsPossible-420]

historically there's a rock paper scissors communism, liberalism, fascism

[@non_complete]

GOD! Finally! A sane video. My recommended section got flooded with all the trump brainrot stuff just because i watched 2 goddamn NEWS CLIPS!!! WTF KZbin!

[@Li-Fu7]

It's so joever

[@mortishacanniba]

🔥💯🔥

[@Lucytheplantwitch]

I'm not american and i don't know what leaving a red state would do for queer people. Yeah a lot of stuff is decided by the states but Trump is the president and can decide things for all states, right?

[@Pingijno]

Take your friends to Europe

[@O.Nerys.1971]

You're all done. You'll all soon be as relevant as a payphone and a phone book. Good riddance, you bunch of freaks. Trump is your Daddy now. 😂

[@azliaheaven]

I'm so tired of explaining why he's the norm of america like bush and Reagan were, acting as if he's the exception only legitimates the american horrors of times without american cyclic populism i will just link an explanation istead kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6usknyfnr98prs

[@azliaheaven]

the explanation kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6usknyfnr98prs