Once Upon A Time - Season 4 Episode 12 (REACTION) 4x12 Heroes and Villains

[@jhvdwalt2874]

The frozen arc was amazing i dont know why everyone hated it or said it was forced bc it fits in perfectly

[@Dazzlefae]

That scene between Belle and Rumple at the Town Line was amazing! While it broke my heart (for Belle, I honestly did not care about Rumple in those moments...) I was also so very proud of Belle. She finally saw what everyone else already (mostly) saw and while it broke her heart because she will always love Rumple, she knew what she had to do. Not only for the Town and the World, but for herself too. Honestly, their relationship got pretty toxic and abusive, and if Belle had continued to trust Rumple then it would've just gotten worse for her. The scene when Killian tells Emma about the portal, but it's ac5ually Rumple talking through him was great too. You can really see how much it's hurting him to be controlled like that and you can see Emma's concern and confusion over how he's acting. And when they kiss, he keeps his eyes open, which I have always put down to the fact that it's technically not him kissing her or something like that. And the moment he manages to grab her hand was great too. He managed to overcome Rumples control over him just for a split second to try to let Emma know that something is very wrong. And it works. Unfortunately, she didn't quite get what was going on until Anna tells them that she met Rumple before, and she would've been too late had it not been for Belle... The Queens Of Darkness are next! Yay! I love this story arc. I loved the Frozen one too. Tbh, I loved pretty much all of them. Also, in the next part of this Season one of my favourite friendships of the show begins! I won't say who it is, but I adore it, because it was so unexpected, but it just works so well! It's great! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do... :)

[@LuisGarcia-703]

After thinking about it, I think the reason Rumple started reverting back to being power hungry is because of his time with the Wicked Witch. I think that being controlled by someone, he felt as weak as he did before he became the Dark One. His greatest fear is being/feeling weak.

[@yolandag8436]

Good point...never thought about that...not to mention that the opportunity with the hat was literally handed to him he couldn't resist

[@alyssakays367]

That scene with Belle and Rumple is one of the most painful for me. I started watching OUaT at the beginning of this season and that scene still pulled at my heartstrings.

[@alguemalguem]

Oh Cruella. It's going to be entertaining, she's the best thing of this next arc.

[@heidimarcum5984]

I love this episode!!!! What a beautiful and tragic way to end the Frozen arc, as well as and phenomenal way to set up the beginning of the Queens of Darkness arc for the second half of season four. I love every moment of this episode. So thank you very much for your reaction, and I'm so happy you love the Frozen arc as much as I do. I honestly can't say that it's my overall favorite story arc throughout this series, and not because you still have lots more to see. I love so much about each story arc throughout all the seasons. However, I do feel that this Frozen arc had the most number of my favorite episodes put together into one arc and that's pretty amazing. White Out, Rocky Road, The Apprentice, Smash the Mirror Parts One and Two, Fall, Shattered Sight, and Heroes and Villains. I absolutely love it for that alone. As for my favorite moments throughout this episode... First... my absolute favorite moment is the brief moment towards the end between Emma and Killian when she pushes Killian's heart back into his chest. It's beautiful and it makes me happy to see the love of Killian's life restore his heart to him. She most definitely holds his heart, and no longer just figuratively, but literally as well. Emma is where Killian has always kept his heart and it's beautiful for me to see her restore it to him so that he can feel his love for her and the love she holds for him so completely. And as if I didn't love it enough as it is, Killian then tells Emma... "I told you, Swan... I'm a survivor." So beautiful. I absolutely love it!! I do love Rumple and Belle together. However, my all time favorite True Love couple throughout this series is Killian and Emma. They always have been and always will be. They're just so beautiful and perfect together, because they make each other better in every way. Killian gives Emma the strength and courage to believe in herself the way he does, and Emma helped to bring out the hero in Hook and continues to show Killian that he's a good man and not the villain he struggles to not believe himself to be. They're so good together and their love story is absolutely beautiful. Next... another of my favorite moments is also another moment between Killian and Emma, in Granny's Diner when Killian comes to talk to Emma about finding the portal while Gold is talking through him by control of his heart. It's so sad because you can see behind Killian's eyes that he hates being controlled by his greatest enemy and that it's killing him knowing he's about to die, and being unable to say his goodbyes to Emma because he's being controlled in his final moments with her. And then... at last Emma finally speaks out upon continuing to recognize something is wrong with him. We've caught glimpses of Emma recognizing something's wrong with Killian before. First in Smash the Mirror Part Two when Killian runs up to her in the mansion to make sure she's okay, as she looks into Killian's eyes after he forcefully kisses her, as she asks him if he's okay. And then again in Fall when Killian comes to Emma to say his goodbyes just before the Spell of Shattered Sight falls over everyone. Emma touches her lips and looks after him in confusion once he walks away. Unfortunately, both times she shrugs off her sense of uneasiness that something was wrong with Killian. Until this moment in Heroes and Villains. Emma at last really recognizes that something is truly wrong with Killian after Gold finishes talking through him as she senses how strangely he's talking, then Killian attempts to walk away from her. But more so... I love that Killian reaches down to grab Emma's arm in plea despite Gold's power over him and Emma knows then that Killian is in trouble. Which brings me to my one little nitpick I have about this episode, and that is that I hate that Emma does nothing to help Killian afterwards. It's like she still shrugs off her sense that something's wrong with him and ignores his plea for help, as she and the Charmings go with Elsa, Anna, and Kristoff to the mansion so those from Arendelle can return home. I like this moment between them, but surely helping them to get home could have waited a little bit longer, while Emma rushed after Killian to help him. Were it not for Belle saving Killian when she did by taking control over Gold with the real Dark One dagger, Emma would have been too late to save Killian and Gold would have succeeded in crushing Killian's heart. And that makes me a little bit upset. I wish the writers would have changed this episode up just a little bit to help fix what little I dislike about this episode. But with that being said... my final third favorite scene throughout this episode is the moment between Belle and Gold at the town line, as Belle is forced to order Gold over the town line to protect everyone from the beast she finally sees him as. As tragic as this scene is, I absolutely agree with you that being forced into a powerless world... away from her and his real true love that is his power, is most definitely what Gold deserves. Just desserts. But mostly, I love this scene because it shows Belle with the kind of strength we've seen in her in glimpses throughout the show so far, until that moment seems to fade a little because she continuously falls for Gold's and Rumple's lies, time and time again. While I love Belle very much, I feel she is a little too wishy washy in her feelings towards Rumple/Gold, and it's a bit annoying. But at last... this moment in Heroes and Villains shows just how strong her character can be and while forcing Rumple across the town line breaks her heart because she loves him, she knows she has to protect all of those in Storybrooke, as well as the world from the darkness that's inside of him. And by rendering him powerless in the outside world, she succeeds. Unfortunately, Gold isn't down yet. He is powerless and he's weak, but he has a plan and now he has an ally, and is about to find more. I love this moment in the very end when Gold comes to Ursula, who also is mysteriously trapped within the outside world and powerless, after seemingly having lost a battle that made her powerless as well. And this sets up the beginning of the season's second arc with three new villains. We've met Maleficent in the show before, but both Ursula and Cruella are new villains brought into Once Upon a Time, with the small exception of the moment in season three's episode, Ariel when Ursula threatens Regina and warns her never to impersonate her again. We never actually saw Ursula's true form and face. And Maleficent was only seen in a few brief scenes until she's killed by Emma way back in season one's finale, A Land Without Magic. I can't wait for you to see what's to come in the new Queens of Darkness arc!! You're going to love all that's to come. I really enjoy the overall backstory between Rumple. Belle, Maleficent, Cruella, and Ursula, as the Queens of Darkness kidnap Belle to try to force the Dark One to give up the gauntlet that leads those in possession of it, to the thing they love most so that they can use it against the heroes keeping them from finding their own happy endings, which leads us into a major theme coming up throughout the next story arc. And I love how Rumple later comes back to steal the gauntlet back, which sets up how Belle at last discovers the truth that she's blinded herself to this entire season. The tragic truth that Rumple's true love is his power and not her. Brilliant! :) Now... I was so happy to see that once the Snow Queen's magic over Marian had worn off and she appeared to be okay, Robin chose Regina over Marian, and I was happy that Marian understood that Robin's heart had moved on upon falling in love with another woman. Unfortunately, their happiness didn't last because of course the Snow Queen's magic didn't appear to wear off completely like they all believed, and the only way to save Marian at this point, is to send her across the town line. And sadly, Robin needed to go with her, mostly for Roland's sake so he can be with his mother, but also because it would have been bad to send Marian off on her own into an unknown world. This whole scene at the town line is so sad, and sadly... we see Regina finally turn her back to Robin as she tears up the mysterious page 23 that showed her happy ending with Robin. So sad. And if that wasn't bad enough, it makes Regina believe all the more... just as Rumple and the Queens of Darkness all believe as well, that villains don't get their happy endings. And if this is true, then what does this all mean for other villains who have fought to redeem themselves and to try to become heroes? Heroes like Hook? I absolutely love how this idea that Regina's questioned a number of times throughout the Frozen arc, is now carrying over into this new story arc and that it appears to have become a major theme for what's to comes. The belief in whether or not villains can have their happy endings. The heroes like Emma are going to fight to make sure Killian and Regina can have their happy endings, while the villains like Rumple, Ursula, and Cruella are going to fight to steal their happy endings by making sure the heroes lose. What's to come is so exciting and I can't wait for you to see it all!!! I am so grateful for another phenomenal reaction from you for this amazing episode, so thank you so much again!!! I'm so happy you love this arc as much as I do! :) Until your next reaction...

[@NycLavoisier]

now meet my 3rd favorite villain, Cruella... Victoria Smurfitt plays her so so good.. you are going to looove her. Just wait for this second half... its so so good

[@KatieLynnsSims]

Your love for this show just reignites my own! Watch you you watch this for this first time reminds me of how I felt every Sunday night!

[@stressbean1707]

Rumple and Regina are the best characters on this show. Regina who despite being proclaimed a villian wants so desperately to be a hero but gets hurt at every corner because "villains dont get happy endings" Rumple a villian who knows embraces that side of himself trying to claim with his own hands not destiny's a happy ending despite being a villian.

[@ellensoj]

"Rest in peace Marian" hahaha I said the exact same thing!!! and your reaction to Hook and Emma when he's being controlled by Rumple and she knows there's something wrong, was the same as mine too!

[@Alexkarev17]

The second half os season 4 is my favorite story arc of the show.

[@theadamabrams]

That's interesting since it's by far one of my least favorite. But that's okay; it's good that other people like it. P.S. Usually I don't say anything at all about future episodes on reactors' videos, but seeing as the top-level comment already has an opinion about future episodes I figure anyone reading this response doesn't mind. Also, two different opinions with no specifics is really not spoiling anything at all.

[@appigreen1559]

Really? I think it is the most boring. And it is however full of crazy thing, like that character that comes back

[@katarinababic9197]

Every time I see Marian I wanna punch her in the head. I dislike her so so much, not to say I hate her. You'll see why later in the season. By the way so many sad moments in this episode. Belle and Rumple, that's for me one of the saddest scenes on the show. And Robin and Regina. The season only gets better. Cruella is the best part of 4B, she's such a great character. And season 4 finale is my favorite finale.

[@purplerd2863]

Robin and regina, Belle and Rumple... Why they love breaking my heart?

[@kathryn3802]

One hand love Belle and Rumple together. On the other hand love Belle stood up for herself, still very emotional scene for me. Different topic, you will 💜 the Queens of Darkness!

[@TJMalana]

Damn it Marian!!! You just HAD to go and mess it up for Regina now didn't you? By the way Malificent has been in this show the second half of the season you will learn everything about her backstory as well as the other two Ursula and Cruella aka the Queens Of Darkness.

[@lindagraham-tuttle6003]

The Frozen the story line was my favorite. I've been so hyped to watch your reaction to it. And you did not disappoint!!! Thank you!!!

[@Sandra-nu4bt]

That seen with killian and emma is just 👌

[@Alexkarev17]

Cruella is my favorite villain in the series

[@DarthKay093]

When I saw the Emma and Elsa hug the first time I forgot about Hook and actually said Kiss xD

[@lilyshadbolt29]

so many people say that season 4 isn’t good, probably because it follows season 3 which most agree is such a great season so there were high standards for it. i really love season 4 though and i’m glad others feel the same.

[@lamas.alejandra]

I don’t think I’ve ever cried as much as I did in that Rumple & Belle scene

[@Fandomswillxcollide]

Cruella is so funny

[@lycgami]

season 4 continues to be superior in all ways, i love this show so much!!

[@SkidmoreTx]

Mean while at the Legion Of Doom!!!

[@fullhousefrek]

can't wait to see your reaction to what happens later in the season.

[@serenitytoepper]

Perfect Elsa and Anna casting truly.

[@ThePinkAngel263]

LOVE your OUAT reactions! Theres this pilot episode that came out today that's called "Hazbin Hotel", you should watch some of the small clips to see if you like it, and if you do, react to the pilot episode. Also, your Anne with an E reactions are my favorite!

[@nicolemacchi3512]

this is my favorite Season of Once Upon A time is season 4 with the queens of Darkness my favorite queen is Ursula and Maleficent and Cruella De Vil and i am A huge fan of this show I loved Ursula's backstory of her life and Maleficent and cruella De Vil's backstory's of their life's it is remarkable and i love it and loved when she got her voice back with her father it was A beautyful scene and i love her singing voice they are great Actress to play them and i would like to meet them someday

[@tiffanyphillips6086]

Amazing season

[@othergrimm6592]

YES! Finally! I've been waiting for this one for SO long! ^_^

[@rubenzavala5476]

I've been waiting for your reaction to this episode.

[@Lola-ul9mp]

AAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE CRUELLA! This woman is done. :D i fucking died. Best villian, i swear. :))) OutlawQueen :,( RumpBelle :,( CaptainSwan :)))))))))))) perfect kiss scene. AGAIN :P perfect episode. AGAIN perfect reaction. AGAIN thanx4that :)

[@esmeraldaala9564]

I love this seires

[@DarkNoctum]

Wow, I know I may be late, but am I the only one who takes Maleficent as a better villain than Cruella?

[@AlexanderWandering]

This kinda retconned Ursula from the Ariel arc though.

[@greenguy369]

I'm pretty sure that got explained after this. Ursala confronts Regina about it

[@AlexanderWandering]

@greenguy369 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The "real" Ursula in the Ariel arc is more of a good figure that's mad at Regina for using her name for evil. This Ursula is more of the Disney villain but they never really explain how she's a villain if all of the little mermaid storyline was Regina.

[@greenguy369]

I'm probably the only person who just can't feel bad for Belle. 1) The actor is very likeable but not very good at the dramatic scenes. Definitely not on par with Robert Carlyle. 2) How many times do you make the exact same mistake before it's just intentional? Fool me once and all that 3) You married the literal "Dark One" and then want to be shocked when he does dark ish. No ma'am. 4) Rumpelstiltskin is VERY consistent in that he ONLY cares about his power, Baelfire and Belle (in that order...maybe add Henry in last place) Belle just chooses not to care.

[@Huesobigotudo]

Awesomeee! Love ur reactions :)

[@julistuen2707]

Wow... you're late😂😂😂

[@Geoskan]

Just wait until you see the episodes with Emma as the Dark One (Dark Swan)...

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Spoilers.

[@Sandra-nu4bt]

Spoiler

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

@@Sandra-nu4bt Indeed.

[@greenguy369]

Hated them

[@bunniesdior]

I hated Emma in season 5

[@appigreen1559]

Being an oqer sucks 😭😭😭

[@appigreen1559]

@@mikrokosmos-pluto Jay is at the 5x9, he does not know about page 23. No spoilers

[@mikrokosmos-pluto]

@@appigreen1559 Oh, I didn't mean to insinuate any spoilers so I'll delete it straight away