One in six men, ages 16-29, say 'feminism has done more harm than good,' study shows

[@erykaton170]

I asked my 27 year old son about this. He said it's right wing online content and the "manosphere", feeding young men more and more radical content and victimization narratives. He himself started to get drawn in, when he was about 19, but he talked to me about the stuff he was seeing, and realized it was all propaganda and BS. It actually had me worried, at the time, but I didn't have to really do much of anything to steer him, he's very smart and saw through it on his own, once I pointed out the fallacies and inconsistencies. Others don't have someone to talk to, or worse, only have people that reinforce the bad information.

[@Ganiscol]

Victimization is the keyword here. They can connect to anybody on that wire because its easy to project your personal issues onto something else. That is how the radical right hooks people: tell them they are victims and point them at who is guilty of making them a victim. And once they spark hate in somebody, they can bind and sort of control them. trump isnt the leader of the victim class for no reason. Its the foundation of his political success. There is nothing else reinforcing his supporters belief that none of their problems is of their own making and he alone can fix it for them. Makes life really easy...

[@LindseyDean-hp7qg]

@@GaniscolYep and this is how genocide end up happening when these radical movements go unchecked!

[@johnl7443]

@@Ganiscol Adolf and his cronies knew that, and so does tRump and his cronies.

[@bosshogg95SLT]

ill take things that didnt happen for 400 alex

[@erykaton170]

@@bosshogg95SLT Interesting choice. My son's name happens to be Alex, and everything I said above, happened. Some people have kids who talk to them about things, others don't. Just like some people call strangers liars on the internet, and others have better manners.

[@Snarbalax]

“When someone is accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

[@Lonewolfmike]

Bingo.

[@lesliewheeler7071]

Exactly!

[@laughingshaman1]

Even approaching equality feels like oppression.

[@jakeoo7tupperware]

Who says white women are not privileged? and 50 percent or more of them have always voted for GOP fascist racists. That's since the 70s.

[@blakethegreatone2058]

Yup, it's not surprising that women think they are opressed.

[@Therealmitch5511]

“Feminism isn't about making women stronger. Women are already strong, it's about changing the way the world perceives that strength." G.D. Anderson

[@TheTruthFollows]

And feminizing men

[@rgtunderworldrgt7773]

Well it's Failed.

[@Therealmitch5511]

@@rgtunderworldrgt7773 No, the majority of men failed. They can't handle strong women.

[@RichardQuaid]

It didn't fail, just one more step in the progression of equal rights for women.

[@censorshipisreal3153]

To bad trans women don’t respect women’s rights.

[@jepomer]

I'm a 72 year old male. Feminism has been good for everyone. I noticed that some of my high school classmates hint at being frustrated that they did not accomplish more in their careers. I fully support my wife and daughter in their pursuits. Both have been successful. My son and I have not "lost" some sense of "masculinity" when all are treated equal.

[@okkietrooy6841]

I just do not get why it seems that for many men, the sense of masculinity depends on the level of strength or weakness of women. Is masculinity determined by dominance of women? Are you only a "real" man if you dominate your wife? If you don't accept leadership of women?

[@crazyzombie9720]

Ok, but what about *modern* feminism? Is it the same as the original feminism?

[@Ganiscol]

@@crazyzombie9720 There is no such thing as "modern feminism".

[@Gfy69ytb]

@@okkietrooy6841 see the comments page about the manosphere influence and incels to get your answer. Or do the research.

[@crazyzombie9720]

@@Ganiscol You may want to do your research.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

I am sixty five and my mother was a single mother and my hero. She did it all and was brilliant as well. I will always be a feminist, because our mothers, grandmothers, and daughters deserve nothing less.

[@aprilfox9205]

😉✌️

[@blakethegreatone2058]

Not modern feminism.

[@randomgeekcrap]

​@@blakethegreatone2058 Blah blah blah go cry about how Trump won in 2020

[@crazyzombie9720]

@@randomgeekcrap How do you know he’s a trump supporter??

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@melissabruhn1429]

Wait..."grab 'em by the 😼...when you're a star they let you" role modeling is NOT working out for them?!? 😮 Shocked! 🙄

[@FourDollaRacing]

Yeah, Harvey Weinstein's idea of Hollywood romance is a complete load of malarkey, too. And, reality shows also aren't real.

[@muc405]

🎯

[@blakethegreatone2058]

If they were billionaires they could do exactly that. Women love money.

[@katherines144]

😂😂😂😂 buh byeeeee

[@YY4Me133]

@@blakethegreatone2058 Perhaps some women do, but no woman I've ever known would find that acceptable.

[@karinschild9020]

Now ask women what their thoughts are on the damage done by the patriarchy to women's experience in society.

[@loriar1027]

Really? Why are there far and away more males in positions of power and authority in our society?

[@crystalcleary]

@@chuckscott-cy7iq Are you dense or Russian?

[@joannam9232]

​@@chuckscott-cy7iqhere's the one who never gets laid.

[@cheshirecat6518]

​@@chuckscott-cy7iqriiiiggghhht...is that why God is a man and so is the Christian savior? Why Republicans in power are almost exclusively men?

[@lewid019]

​@@chuckscott-cy7iqgaslighting troll 😂

[@critterkarma]

That means five in six young men DO feel feminism is positive.

[@chrism1503]

Or neutral.

[@Ganiscol]

It should be 0% and not 17% but that would mean 0% idiots in our world, which isnt ever going to happen. You will always find somebody opposing something and 17% sounds pretty good considering how 35% support a racist, misogynistic, fascist and would love nothing more than to see democracy be destroyed and trump be their forever dear leader. 35% is a number to worry about, even if its not going up.

[@critterkarma]

@@chrism1503 True, it would be interesting to see how the survey posed the question. Though given the report, had there been a neutral option, it very likely would have been reported.

[@swagyolo8602]

Or the numbers have been manipulated

[@critterkarma]

@@swagyolo8602 how so?

[@brewberry3894]

One in six men 16-29 need to focus on their own lives instead of women.

[@billc5433]

I think one issue is that many men are disappointed with their lives and they're not sure how to channel that energy.

[@crazyzombie9720]

Ever heard of the MGTOW movement? Those men are focused on themselves.

[@ghostmantagshome-er6pb]

They probably didn't even ask six guys. MSNBC frauds

[@redstarchrille]

@@billc5433 Think most people dont speak about feelings, can read their own or talk about mental health.

[@alphajava761]

@@billc5433 women are disappointed with their lives and don't know how to channel their energy so they blame men. women and advertising put more pressure on women than men do. when a women chooses a career the rest of the household is supposed to adjust? no. the person who chose needs to adjust. women can't manage their own expectations and priorities so they blame others for it. it's as simple as that.

[@johndavidwolf4239]

That the term "Toxic Masculinity" exists, to me implies there is also "Non-toxic Masculinity", but a lot of media, especially 'right wing' takes the interpretation that it means that ALL masculinity is toxic, it isn't.

[@chrism1503]

You would think this was pretty straight forward. I suspect it’s a way for toxic men to deflect from their own toxicity.

[@ss-ds2dn]

Yup they all suddenly forgot how adjectives work. The thing that makes it even more stupid is that the term was originally coined by men's rights activists back in the 70s IIRC.

[@jakeoo7tupperware]

Because so called feminist women treat all acts as toxic.

[@alphajava761]

Women are more toxic to women than men are. Unreasonable expectations for women over more than two decades have been set by women. I hope they covered that aspect in Barbie. Women's insecurities mainly come from other women.

[@BabyMaharaja0]

any opinions on toxic femininity?

[@MichaelFloodSr]

Really good 100% woke female point of view on what they think men think

[@jannibal9273]

And your evidence that it was ALL women who conducted this particular study is?????

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

🎯

[@reconstruct23]

He never suggested that the study was female led, he suggested that the presentation of the information was by woman. And the evidence that he had that the presentation of the information was female led, was by the fact that 3 women & 0 men presented the information.

[@jansenart0]

Only 17%? That's actually heartening when you THINK about the ratio.

[@Angel-ei1ip]

It’s worse when you realize it doesn’t take much for a worldview to become systemically entrenched.

[@MajICReiki]

Only took 5000 years 🤷🏼‍♀️ and more segments like this seem too airhead to even be considered blonde, to counter the long standing inculturation ​@@Angel-ei1ip

[@evalawler4524]

Really positive... gives me hope in the younger generation. They do not have to be like their parents. They can embrace equality.

[@SiriusMined]

exactly. 5 in 6 are fine with it

[@SiriusMined]

@@Angel-ei1ip I bet the ration was much more in the past, so this is progress.

[@prabhdeepdhahan1147]

Chivalry is dead and women killed it.

[@cryptidsntunes]

Lol. Chivalry was only ever necessary to protect women from nasty men, because laws did not. When men are "chivalrous" to other men, it's called being nice

[@amberandrews6842]

Because guys under 29 remember when women were actually second class citizens who didn't have equal rights? I didn't think so. They definitely have exactly ZERO idea of what it was like to LIVE that way....

[@havable]

Note that twice as many have the opposite view of the one in the headline. The new generations are wiser than the olds: less sexist, less racist, less fascist, less stupid. Reagan's plot to dumb down America by destroying our public school system was only a partial success.

[@lewid019]

They have their lovely podcast bros telling them of the tales of the good ol days 😊

[@mattleofric1766]

I'm pretty sure that 99% of men couldn't vote in the 19th century either.....

[@DimaShirshkov1]

It's actually the opposite but nobody wants to believe that

[@hypnokitten6450]

@@FirstnameLastnames they probably think "I didn't do any of that stuff, why are you hitting me?"

[@TheDalinkwent]

Gotta love this. "How do men feel about todays feminism" Proceeds to play a clip from Barbie followed by a conversation with 3 woman and no man.

[@mikecaetano]

In a follow up study researchers should include questions about media habits as well as questions designed to gauge the authoritarian proclivities of respondents. 1 in 6 is 16 percent, which matches levels of authoritarianism in the population according to other studies.

[@jamiegallier2106]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@sharongrandi6903]

In my family, the younger women are doing amazing and following their careers not worried about dates and marriage.

[@crazyzombie9720]

Nothing wrong with following a career, but saying don’t worry about marriage? Uh there are many videos of older women in their 30s and 40s, even 50s saying they regret not getting married and having a family.

[@Phoenix-J81]

​@@crazyzombie9720I don't know a single woman in that age group that is single and unhappy. Most of them are having a blast. (My moms friends) they have cruise groups and travel constantly. I think they're lucky.

[@sharongrandi6903]

I know a lot that regret they did. Relationships are changing as the world changes. Women are not bound to be the bearers of men's children. The whole definition of family is changing. @@crazyzombie9720

[@janetdotson7829]

Irrelevant. Also ," many videos" is not consensus or even a valid argument. ​@@crazyzombie9720

[@carlyar5281]

⁠@@crazyzombie9720 funny you say that because I am in that demographic and there are a lot of women in my age range who are very content being single, and/or child-free. There are also a number who were married, and are no longer married (for a variety of reasons), and have zero desire to be married again. A common refrain is that they are grateful for their children because that’s the best thing, or the only good thing that came out of their marriage. I do not know single woman in that age range who is disappointed that they did not have children or get married. But I do know men in this age range who are disappointed that they haven’t been married and have children.

[@eric2500]

Men OF QUALITY are not threated by women with EQUALITY!

[@mariondean8499]

What? I don’t understand

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@y.r.9401]

❤❤😊

[@ki11atj49]

No one's threatened about equality and no one ever has been. But that's not what fem.inism is about but good try

[@martthesling]

women of quality aren't afraid of men.

[@peterr.7641]

Whats "disturbing," is that you are discussing the opinions of men with a panel full of women and the dismissive attitudes and causal insensitivity are so palpable. Take a moment and imagine this situation reversed.

[@sukn7091]

You mean like watching a bunch of men take away the rights of women with their own bodies?

[@eat.a.dick.google]

The whining and crying would be off the charts.

[@Misery2Malice]

It is normalize to bash the human male species front, left and center without even batting an eye.

[@final1fantasy]

Why aren't women asked if the impact of masculinity has done more harm than good?

[@swagyolo8602]

Without masculinity, women wouldn't be able to enjoy the benefits of modern civilization right away, so why bother with such obvious questions?

[@missinterpretation4984]

Tremendous comment! Absolutely this! It reminds me of a conversation I had because my brother in law kept telling my sister in law that she was emasculating him by being too competent and I asked what’s the word for her when you’re taking away her femininity by making her handle all the responsibility? There isn’t even a word for it but there sure is a word for them. Everything is about them.

[@final1fantasy]

@@missinterpretation4984 EVERYTHING is about them. But imagine this: there wouldn't be a need for a feminist movement IF they hadn't created this dichotomy: a woman's place is (fill in the blank,) the gap in wages, sexism, etc. Then they want to complain about women who are tired of their bs. And that's exactly what it is: BS.

[@joannam9232]

The opposite of feminism isn't masculinity. It's oppression or patriarchy because the goal of feminism is to achieve equality for everyone

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@teebagur]

I’ve been telling my younger cousin to not worry about dating women. Their career is more important to them and that’s ok. He should work hard and earn as much as possible and when ready go to a country that celebrates traditional relationships and find a good woman that is not argumentative and doesn’t put you second to her career. Leave the women here alone, that’s what they have been asking for so give it to them

[@final1fantasy]

You save up too so the two of you can leave together!

[@hr9336]

Either that or move to an area close to the southern border and get with a Hispanic cultured woman.

[@user-et1xp6gv2g]

​@@final1fantasySince were all separating here why don't you stay off youtube, you know a man's invention.

[@Jamhael1]

Why are woman taking this puritanic approach to heterosexuality?

[@LeftCoastStephen]

Maybe it’s because my grandmothers were both feminists before the term was coined, I married a strong capable woman and together we have raised 2 strong independent daughters and a son who respects and appreciates strong independent women. Now approaching 70, I am watching my granddaughters grow and learn and thrive. Toxic masculinity is, like racism and religious intolerance, the problem, not a solution to the challenges of the 21st century. More disturbing than the 17% of young men thinking that way is the 11% of young women who agree.

[@vertigoz]

There's a lot of feminism today that has nothing to do with your grandmother's feminism... And btw it's so easy to play the misogyny card as easy as woman play the victim card

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@lightwillprevail]

Real men appreciate strong women and tell them so 🪶

[@middle_of_the_road]

Real men are a dying breed.

[@burnout_2017]

How would you even know what a "real" man is? Most women confuse over-bearing and demanding with being strong. Men like the strong silent type that just goes about their business without the complaints and drama, and good luck finding that woman.

[@mrroman3862]

That's right. Raised by strong woman. Two strong sisters and I admire them to this day. The strength in women is beyond man . If it ain't true, let me see a man. Have a baby.. two beautiful babies watch my wife give birth to them both and I know a man would never be able to do that . They would die fact

[@lightwillprevail]

@@burnout_2017 must have struck a chord with you d-bag, hiding behind the Internet, a real man. Time to grow up and man up

[@lindascott3973]

​​@@burnout_2017how would you know what a "real man" is? In my life experience, real strength is confidence in oneself, which isn't threatened by others' strength. Real strength allows for gentleness, which is a wonderful quality that many women cherish (again, I speak from my life experience). For years women were taught to hide their strength and intelligence lest men be threatened. Trust me, the men they coddled in that way did not gain their respect.

[@Gram-ue3px]

Hogwash!!! A powerful confident woman is a sight to behold 😍🥰😘

[@stoopidpursun8140]

Unless they speak out against the narrative. Ask Gina Carano.

[@nw9353]

Yep SIGHT ONLY.

[@FourDollaRacing]

Translation: you have a dominatrix fetish....

[@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q]

Yeah OnlyFans is crawling with them. I read they're making their way to Twitch now, so I guess all those teen boys will be getting an eye full of that female confidence. 😉

[@bioniteorigins]

see it and then run for your life!

[@ellydavis2066]

It's up to the other 5 to show them there's nothing to be afraid of.

[@middle_of_the_road]

What is there to fear? To say its fear is not logical. I think the biggest pause for alot of people is the destruction of the home and marriage over the last 50 years. The traditional nuclear family has become a relic as the feminism movement gained traction and the correlation is consistent with the trending of the feminist movement. this is just an objective view of the big picture. I do not mean anyone any offense.

[@jakeoo7tupperware]

Would you ever agree that while women want the benefits of feminism but also cling to exploiting old fashioned concessions they get as women too? Do you agree that women abuse the courtesies and respect Men are supposed to provide women but at the same time don't feel obligated to show any courtesies to Men as human beings? They feel they are all entitled to old fashioned benefits they are spoiled with and at the same time reap the benefits of feminism as well. All in return for not showing any respect, courtesy or honest to Men who take them on a date. If you are not a Man who haven't been in that dating arena, then don't make a comment.

[@johnbrown4949]

No one is “afraid”. Modern feminist act like men, so men will treat them accordingly. End of story. Not sure why that’s hard to understand

[@jakeoo7tupperware]

Any confident (or cocky) behavior men do (which women expect instead of a guy who is tame wall flower) are tagged as toxic masculinity or men fear will be tagged as such. So no wonder more Men are afraid of showing their confident or cocky game (just playful stuff to get attention not the physical or abusive stuff). Just 5 years ago these were termed as having game (or knack for talking to women confidently). I see women complaining in dating profiles about Men not being confident enough to approach them or ask them out on a date without realizing how they have contributed to this cautiousness.

[@jakeoo7tupperware]

Women abuse a good guy showing courtesy or paying for dates etc. They use it for practice or for a free meal before they go out to party with their friends and hook up with a drunk guy in a bar. If you are going to talk, admit the faults on all sides. You know this is true.

[@lketoplay]

Tell me you can't get a girlfriend without telling me you can't get a girlfriend

[@stoopidpursun8140]

Did you just assume they were straight? Bigot.

[@markfeland2285]

🤣🤣👍👏👏

[@jeremysmetana8583]

That's really helpful... as an example of toxic feminism.

[@lindascott3973]

​@@jeremysmetana8583tell us you believe women owe men a relationship without telling us you don't understand human relationships 😂

[@adamzielinski2001]

@@lindascott3973I have a girlfriend and I’m happy. I treat her well and she treats me well. I don’t take that for granted. However masculinity is necessary in a relationship because it balances out femininity. I’m attracted to what I’m not. I’m masculine so I’m attracted to femininity.

[@ReidVV]

So 16% of men don't like feminism? That seems better than I thought. I guess you don't get clicks with headlines that say, "84% of men think feminism is just fine."

[@sfjessy1]

Better headline: 5 in 6 men say ‘women have a point’.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

more than 5 in 6 actually

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

Not necessarily.

[@umadox41]

Exactly! Still all part of the subtle conditioning to highlight the negatives even when it's the minority of men supposedly have that view. How about we try focusing and promoting the majority in this case who see no real problem with feminism?

[@Sarcasmarkus]

1 in 7 might have had an abusive female role model. Female narcissists exist.

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@Runny117]

1 in 6 men like to blame others for their shortcomings* there fixed it

[@thepagecollective]

80% of women in surveys across 50 years do not identify feminist.

[@realEvanBriggs]

CIRCUMCISION STOP BUTCHERING MEN AND SAYING THAT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE 'IMPORTANT' WHEN YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THIS ATROCITY

[@johnbrown4949]

I can agree with some of that for sure, though modern women behave like men. We didn’t count on that when we embraced feminism. We don’t want a world full of masculinity, we have enough war. Embracing her was for a softer world which we didn’t get.

[@ghostmantagshome-er6pb]

It's higher than 1/6. b.s

[@thepagecollective]

@@ghostmantagshome-er6pbIt's higher among women too.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

I am a sixty five year old man and I admit women have it harder than men. The divide isn’t as bad as it was, but it appears to be slipping.

[@MrWaterbugdesign]

OK, but is it of their own making. Women go to college, get $50+k in student loans to get a teaching degree. Then they complain about low teacher pay. Most high paying jobs are completely ignored by 90-95% of women. In dating most women want a man who earns more than they do, has to be 6+ feet tall, in shape, fun, exciting, do the housework, etc..., etc..., etc... It's a really long list. 80% of women would only accept 10% of men so they end up alone, sad and complaining about men not doing enough. I agree, many women absolutely do have a much harder than many men. It looks like a horrible mess I wouldn't wish on anyone. But it's not like they're going to change. I'm a 67 year old man. Planning to move to SE Asia next year. Lot's of women there of any adult age, super into marrying a guy like me. They want the traditional marriage, a provider man. They seem very happy to me. American women look really sad to me, adding more and more makeup, tattoos, anything to cover up their reality.

[@mscheese000]

@@MrWaterbugdesign"It's women's fault society values certain jobs less" nope try again.

[@mscheese000]

@@brandonstockton7852 Everyone picks their job? No.

[@janetdotson7829]

​@@MrWaterbugdesignyour view is such a throwback to when women couldn't even have a bank account without a spouse or male relative such as their father to sign off on it. Cretin level.

[@kant.68]

Source: trust me bro

[@invirtu8089]

I remember talking to my daughter and her friends about feminism and the idea that feminism was a thing of the past that young women couldn't identify with because they "had equality" now. I remember saying young women need to be vigilant, because a right without means to enforce the right, is not a right at all, and that all the rights women before them had fought and won, could be taken away. I could almost feel the collective eye rolling - second and third wave "feminists" basically saying, well that sort of feminism is just not necessary yadda yadda. Some young women actually looked at feminism as a dirty word, and laughed at women who identified with and as feminists as some sort of relic. Bet those women aren't rolling their eyes now. They will have to refight the very fights it took YEARS, no generations!, for us to win for them.

[@rastapatchmail2357]

But you didn't fight. You asked for, and were given rights.

[@margaretwordnerd5210]

@@rastapatchmail2357 you know nothing of the history of women's rights. Or any rights, in any history. Next time you want to pontificate, first do some research.

[@rastapatchmail2357]

@@margaretwordnerd5210 but ... You DIDN'T fight for your rights. No women fought for their rights. Men fight for their rights every day all over the planet. Then men give women rights. Or, you could enlighten me on history. In which battle did women win against men, and wrest their rights from the oppressor? Hmmm?

[@rvrgrrl]

You have a very narrow view of the term 'fight,' a skewed understanding of the meaning of 'battle,' and your comment reeks of misogyny.

[@rastapatchmail2357]

@@rvrgrrl . What's misogyny?

[@tophat2115]

Telling 50% of the population, whether intended or not, that their inherit inclinations are 'toxic' and therefore they are evil, wrong, bad, shameful, repugnant, etc, is not going to land you many friends and allies in that population-or for that matter, the women who love those men, their moms, sisters, spouses, grandmothers. It's a poor strategy to improve a society. Blowing someone else's candle out does not make yours burn brighter.

[@BLZ231]

And even in the best case scenario, claiming to want gender equality while using a gendered term like feminism is always going to look like a contradiction. It also doesn’t help when people keep using the No True Scotsman fallacy to dismiss and ignore harmful and hypocritical behavior coming from feminists. It’s not as infuriating as when Christians do it, but it’s still not good.

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

Guys, remember to flush your cndom down the toilet after use to avoid sprm theft.

[@auaticamazon]

One in six men need to catch up and stop blaming others for their choices

[@Sarcasmarkus]

Same could be said about women

[@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q]

I think the same thing about women whenever I go to the CDC website and see how women 15-29 have higher STD rates than men by greater than 2:1 margin.

[@bioniteorigins]

cats make good husbands

[@pmmcrobb]

Update: 1 in 6 men aren’t relationship-worthy.

[@stoopidpursun8140]

Still far better odds than the women who are relationship-worthy.

[@herculesbrofister265]

and those incels are really coming out like cockroaches for this video.

[@unicorn-glasses]

​@@BadRobot99seeing some examples of your idea in your own life and on the internet (which is a vast place where people tend to gravitate towards spaces that confirm the beliefs they already hold) is not evidence. Provide solid evidence, not anecdotes, if you want to claim that something is a fact. There is no evidence that "most feminists" change their entire worldview the moment they meet a conventionally attractive and wealthy man. None.

[@lindascott3973]

Do you understand the importance of real data as opposed to anecdotal "data"? You csn also find internet content with men who are happy to stay home with the kids if their partner brings in enough income ​@BadRobot99

[@eric2500]

True. Ask any father of a daughter!

[@battles423]

Using the movie Barbie as confirmation that feminism is good. Lol 😂

[@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q]

"They saw Barbie! They know what's happening!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@waynethegreat23]

Lower than i expected after being bombarder with misogyny in my KZbin shorts

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@BurningRubber454]

“Misogyny” Options you don’t agree with

[@pinktfatrabbit]

The really interesting thing is that no one really cares why young men think this way. Social media is certainly a factor, but it's not the main reason. Unfortunately, it is and will always be the case that when it comes to men, they are the problem. For everyone else, it is always someone else.

[@Freeyourmind-y4g]

The same one in six cannot even define what feminism is.

[@Sturmavk]

And all feminists are incapable of defining the term "woman" in order to bend the knee to the trans cultists.

[@chrism1503]

Plenty of examples of that right here in the comments.

[@crazyzombie9720]

Can you?

[@deborahrivera6064]

@@crazyzombie9720 Feminism, the belief in social, economic, and political equality of the sexes.

[@crazyzombie9720]

@@deborahrivera6064 Ok, now what about *modern* feminism? Is it the same? Or not? Think about it.

[@wisteria777s7]

The day I start listening to a minor or adult male in that age group will be the day I go bananas!

[@reconstruct23]

I agree, because no one younger than me will ever know more than me Ps. That was sarcasm.

[@jackdoe7933]

Why feminism ? Do you need to be a vegetarian to eat vegetables ?

[@Andreas-gh6is]

Only one in six? Feels like a lot more.

[@jimeagle5509]

Because it is a lot more. They’re cherry-picking the focus group.

[@TheSpyder699]

Way more they just didn't care listening the question coming from a women 😂

[@herculesbrofister265]

because they congregate on places like youtube. i mean you don't think they're actually gonna go do something in the real world, do ya?

[@ecurewitz]

That one in six is very vocal

[@crazyzombie9720]

I’m pretty sure it is a lot more.

[@gigilaroux762]

Why because it doesn’t benefit them or involves them? Men have to learn to react respectfully and learn how to evolve the way women have over the past 50 yrs.

[@easyflowjoe875]

The only thing that will save these young men is poetry. POETRY IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY🧐🧐 Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@MartijnHover]

So 5 in 6 say it hasn't? Considering that men are not always the brightest when it comes to social affairs, that is acutally a pretty good result for feminism. 🙂

[@emilymcplugger]

@MartijnHover And yet the media focus on the one. This is a really good example of how the media gets it wrong for advertising clicks. The real headline should be 5 in 6 men think feminism has improved society OR around 83% of men think feminism is a benefit to our culture…but no. Instead it has to focus on the 1 in 6 to create division where very little division exists.

[@MartijnHover]

@@emilymcplugger You are probably not wrong.

[@jlighter1]

The framing issue is real, but the 5 in 6 figure isn’t correct. For men 16-29, 1 in 6 say feminism has done more harm than good. 36%, or a shade over 2 in 6, of the same group say it’s done more good than harm, shown in the video. That leaves just under half for the probable other answers “About equal harm and good” and “Unsure.”

[@MartijnHover]

@@jlighter1 It may also show that most people don't really care about issues like this. Which shows that it apparently hasn't done them any harm.

[@jlighter1]

@@MartijnHover True, that's also possible 👍

[@rachelk4805]

Who cares? The whole point is we don't have to center them. They are not the center of the universe.

[@shep1948]

That says to me that 1 in 6 are incels.

[@daniellai7712]

They love their supreme gentleman

[@Sarcasmarkus]

Or they were unlucky enough to get into an abusive relationship with a narcissistic female.

[@havable]

@@Sarcasmarkus"Or they were unlucky enough to get into an abusive relationship with a narcissistic female" It would have to be that and them also being dumb enough to blame all women for over bad person. On the upside, these numbers would have probably been a *lot* worse if they'd done this poll in 1982.

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

no such thing as an incel as wn continue to have sx for money.

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@thomasdequincey5811]

"One in six" seems low to me.

[@eat.a.dick.google]

Way too low.

[@ncwordman]

Same. But maybe because they're younger than the MAGA incels we know today?

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@BurningRubber454]

@@ncwordmansays while defending a man hating group

[@wcwright44]

I think 95% of women would say that toxic masculinity has done more harm than good.

[@BurningRubber454]

So basically people who hate men

[@IaneHowe]

Of course they do, they were used to do whatever and get away with, now they have to respect everyone, women, child, older, LGBTQ, minority. It must be soooo hard poor baby

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@BurningRubber454]

That’s sound really Misandrist

[@pda661]

Truly radical feminism is not striving to make women more like men, or men more like women. Radical feminism is a reworking of social values so that the traditional "female roles" are of equal value to traditional "masculine roles" and are not dictated by gender but rather by desire and ability.

[@jannibal9273]

So, what is radical about that? You're either equal all the way down the line or you're not truly equal. Interestingly, people who claim to be "Christians" forget that in the eyes of God Almighty we are ALL equal and the 144,000 "chosen ones" come from BOTH women and men.

[@pda661]

@@jannibal9273 Biblical Christianity has men equal to women? Seriously? If you follow the Bible, women are considered property. That's hardly equal.

[@LisaMichele]

That's kind of it.... but real radical feminism is actually about liberating women from oppression and male violence

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@gigilaroux762]

Men of quality support equality.

[@easyflowjoe875]

The only thing that will save these young men is poetry. POETRY IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY🧐🧐 Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@blomeup2day]

1 in 6 men and 4 outta 5 dentists can’t find the g-spot

[@edf9682]

Comment of the day!! 😂

[@chuckscott-cy7iq]

No one is looking.

[@queensheeeeba]

How about this: we will listen to men’s opinions about feminism when women make up at least 50% of leadership positions in government and industry! It’s such a great world that male leadership has brought us (sarcasm)!

[@RichardQuaid]

The only percentage I think has to be meet is 100 % of women feeling equal.

[@Merriwether-w8k]

exactly

[@Liberal.Linda.]

💯

[@Plexippuspetersi92]

And you think women won't be as monstrous?

[@Merriwether-w8k]

Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Finland - countries where women hold close to 50% of government power - NOT MONSTROUS@@Plexippuspetersi92

[@eric2500]

Grow up, boys. Grow up and get real. Then treat people like people, especially women. A lifetime of friendship and love awaits you when you do this.

[@dmurphine]

People don't know the history - that women couldn't buy a car, apply for credit, get a mortgage without a man co-signing in my lifetime! Not to go into jobs that were available for women (nurse, teacher, secretary) and women who went to college were after a MRS degree well into the 1970's, There have been decades of progress toward equality.

[@bosshogg95SLT]

but yet to date 90 percent of of registered nurses are women, the majority of teachers from k up are women... as well as the majority of secretaries are women, the percentage of women truck drivers are about 5-7 percent. CNN business even did an article on how secretary gets a bad wrap women want top pay for jobs and effort that doesnt reflect it, women dont want to and cant in alot of cases work the same jobs men do but men generally can do anything a woman can do save for one,surely youre not saying women have less rights now than ion 1971 .. id argue they have more than men to date

[@bioniteorigins]

and we were alot happier back then also

[@dmurphine]

@@bosshogg95SLT the percentage of RNs that are male has been steadily rising since the 1970's, along with rising salaries and lowering of the stigma that nursing is a female occupation. These are both good things.

[@jujubees711]

So what I'm hearing is the study shows that Five in Six Men say that feminism is doing good!

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@marymcnabb7149]

Red Hatters wonder by women's avoid them.

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@BloodyHeck]

And what, you think men have it easy? We also have to "do this, but if we do it too much, or not enough". Take working. If we work hard to provide, put in the extra hours to get the raise and promotion, then we're spending too much time at work and ignoring her needs. End result, she has an affair because we're a workaholic. If we only put in the bare minimum at work so we can focus our time on her, then we can't provide her with the bigger house, nicer vacations, newer car and bigger piece of jewelry. End result, she has an affair because we're unmotivated to do better.

[@luisvaldivieso5217]

Good start of a conversation, but how can they not have any men on the panel?

[@kaecatlady]

"One in six men, ages 16-29, say 'feminism has done more harm than good,' study shows," Translation: "I can't get my way/the job or promotion I want/laid)" because women are allowed to have minds of their own out loud..."

[@TheMahayanist]

5 in 6 say the opposite.

[@keepingit8797]

Says 5 out of 6 men are to beta to check these out of control women.

[@edf9682]

@@keepingit8797nice misogyny douchenozzle… you must be incel…😂😂

[@Lumi_Lumi13]

@@keepingit8797 Sounds like you're threatened & intimidated by women who are independent & confident.

[@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q]

​@@Lumi_Lumi13 I'm more threatened by their astronomical STD rates. Y'all are slayin' it, especially with Chlamydia (according to the CDC).

[@user-et1xp6gv2g]

​@@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6qThis is true. I was even shocked looking at those statistics just recently.

[@symbiat0]

When you look at modern hookup culture, the ridiculous standards women have on dating apps and every woman thinks she is a 10, it’s not surprising 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@shogreene9215]

Birth rates are down because of these standards

[@janetdotson7829]

Birth rates ? Seriously? The world is overrun with people. If you think the US needs more people, there's plenty that would love to be here.

[@DeletedDeleter]

@@janetdotson7829 If you're a Boomer or Gen X don't cry that young men aren't paying or working in the system

[@carlyar5281]

The birth rate is down because of cost of living. Incomes are not high enough to cover living cost, and raising a child extremely expensive.

[@WeirGoi]

That’s because few people, men as well as women, even know what feminism is. Every time a marginalized group stands up, the group that is holding back their progress LITERALLY steps in and defines what that group wants. We saw it with the push for black people’s civil rights. Back then it was normal for an all white panel to “discuss” what the “blacks” wanted. And what they settled on was busing. NO! What black people wanted was EQUALITY. That’s it. Equal opportunity. If one black person failed, leave the door open for the next and the next. Remove the obstacles that were put in place by racists that led to their racism being institutionalized. Well, it’s the same for women. As soon as women stood up, the opposition started defining the movement. I remember Kaley Cuoco(sp?) famously saying she wasn’t a feminist because she cooks for her family! WHAT? Feminism isn’t about who cooks. Each relationship is different. No one can or should dictate what that is. It’s EQUALITY. End of. Even the term toxic masculinity has been misunderstood. It’s all about putting men in a box. Forcing men to be or act in a certain way or they aren’t men. Black actors and comedians can’t wear a dress. Men can’t be caregivers. Men can’t cry or ask for help even if they are in agony. It’s probably killing a lot of men, literally. Perhaps they should figure out if the participants understand the terms BEFORE they fill out a questionnaire.

[@jd190d]

I remember in the 70's when the media started getting opinions from outspoken feminists and shockingly the most extreme (every movement has them) were interviewed the most (to sell papers) so that became not only the most used criticism by anti-feminists, it started to leak into the general press as the standard views. The extreme views were also quoted with no explanation for their reasoning so it was a set of basically out of context sound bites that were amplified to sell papers and attack the movements. By the 80's the backlash started to set in so many women did not identify as feminists but they still wanted the basic equality and respect. It was an effective way to hurt the movement with a significant portion caused not by malice but sheer greed for shock value to sell print. The other part was caused by malicious actors who saw the feminists movements as a threat to their power base.

[@easyflowjoe875]

Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@funkydanieluk]

Only 1 in 6? That's worryingly low

[@Jamhael1]

Take the US population, and make the calculations of 1/6th of the male population, and it is NOT a small number...

[@Dantregfs_]

Men won’t be gaslighted anymore there truly tired

[@Leverett946]

It’s the opposite and you know it stay true to your ignorance.

[@final1fantasy]

Yet here you are along with your minions.

[@petervizzini4006]

@@Leverett946 Your oppression exists only in your head

[@user-et1xp6gv2g]

​@@final1fantasyYou pack of hyenas never shut up. It really is a sight to witness.

[@joy1ess]

i hope they realise the old days are long gone. women will not be suppressed anymore and slavery will never come back. get used to it

[@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q]

Um. Didn't men fight and die to end slavery? Like, *hundreds of thousands* of men? What a bizarre statement for you to make.

[@omotayosatuyi252]

I don't think anyone would want slavery to come back?

[@Xylophone8]

These men don’t know what they are talking about!! Choose for yourself. Fear, fear, fear…

[@eat.a.dick.google]

They're 100% right.

[@Xylophone8]

@@eat.a.dick.google oh is your masculinity so fragile, that you can’t handle strong women..are you an incel??

[@fred_derf]

Where was the option to choose "Both sexes have it tougher today"? Why does it have to be one over the other?

[@SnowLeopardForever]

Because that is not true. Roe vs Wade being overturned last year and the horrible effect of that on women since then prove that is not true. When have men ever faced something like that? Not having control over their own bodies.

[@isovideo7497]

@@SnowLeopardForever Men die in wars they are conscripted for - not much control there. Men do dangerous jobs (and are paid more so they can support their families) that have a more than 10x higher death and injury rate. Men can be victims of women's violence against them, but in some parts of the country, if the police are called, the man is usually the one who is arrested. There are no shelters for men battered by their wives/girlfriends. If a wife gets pregnant by another man, the husband is liable for wife and child support should they subsequently get divorced. Most women can find male partners if they want them (they may be sharing though), but many men find no partner (they are judged ugly, short, poor, etc). Therefore many men have no female partner at all, and "alpha males" often have many, so the suicide rate amongst men is about 4x higher than women in the US. Each gender has its set of problems.

[@omotayosatuyi252]

@@SnowLeopardForeverbut what's wrong with saying that there are male societal issues that need to be fixed and women societal issues that need to be fixed 🤦‍♂️

[@TrumpWasFiredFrom81M]

Parents did a bad job to teach kids to respect women. Women r not birth vessels. REAL MEN respect, love, support n protect their women. If they r not any of these traits-they r not man!

[@bosshogg95SLT]

birth vessel lol considering that if a man gets a girl pregnant and she wants it but he doesnt he gets hooked for child support and if he want it but she doesnt she kills it .., call it what you want there is no equal between men and women

[@murrkieryel6602]

How many of the women on the panel have dated a Gen Z woman? As a man.

[@killersugar6816]

More men than women think an insulting term about men is unhelpful? That’s really not a surprise.Also, the percentages don’t add up to 100. What were the other 34% of responses?

[@mscheese000]

Feminism isn't an insulting term about men.

[@Sarcasmarkus]

​@@mscheese000toxic masculinity is used as a slur fairly often.

[@BurningRubber454]

@@mscheese000even though modern feminism Is about hating men

[@dymone4894]

Exactly why are men even being asked this question? Did you also ask them how painful giving birth is? On a scale of 1 - 10 that is. Keep it in context of course.

[@Sarcasmarkus]

According to my mom about the same as kidney stones, plenty of dudes have kidney stones, personally i can't recommend kidney stones, or migraines.

[@tomarmstrong4761]

I firmly believe that feminism is a force for good. I also firmly believe that men (and I'm a man) are fortunate that women aren't after retribution, but merely equality. I'm old enough to have children in the age group defined in the headline (and perhaps a grandson...), but have no children of my own. I learned at a young age how important "treating women as peers instead of like lesser beings" is to my own well-being, and have had many friends who happen to have been women as a result, enriching my life far more than being a "dudebro" would have.

[@Tsudkyk]

Weak men are terrified of strong women, and some men simply want a woman who is subservient to his needs and desires.

[@DeletedDeleter]

Sounds like your projecting

[@Himmiefan]

These are the men women of quality avoid.

[@easyflowjoe875]

The only thing that will save these young men is poetry. POETRY IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY🧐🧐 Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.

[@johnnybraccia452]

one in six, isn't that the same ratio of domestic abusers?

[@Lumi_Lumi13]

1 in 5 for domestic abusers.

[@BurningRubber454]

@@Lumi_Lumi13against men

[@kennyc6597]

You should be asking females about transgenderism ruining their rights.

[@mscheese000]

Why don't you? You might be surprised at the answer.

[@kennyc6597]

@@mscheese000 I'm not a female.

[@mscheese000]

​@@kennyc6597I didn't say you were... I said you should ask some.

[@kennyc6597]

@@mscheese000 Feminism has lead to people not knowing what a female is.

[@Dmarcoot]

nothing threatens weak men (boys) 16-29 than a confident strong woman

[@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q]

Women's STD rates are a far greater threat to guys of that age group. At least that's what the CDC data says. 🦠

[@spitflamez]

Only 1 in 6? I would think it’s higher!

[@carlyar5281]

The 1 in 6 it’s just a very vocal group, especially online.

[@eat.a.dick.google]

@@carlyar5281 But he is right.

[@TomDog5812]

Also, one in six men have major personal problems. Could they be the same men?

[@carlyar5281]

The Venn diagram is practically a circle.

[@serraangel7465]

Men have choosen society values money then complain when no one else values their sefishness. Women value relationships with others. Men dont offer much care work.

[@mydrouno]

Women also introduce numerous unnecessary hardships into their husband's lives on a daily basis 👍

[@ejtattersall156]

Women offer narcissism and demands and entitlements.

[@meow2u22]

​@@ejtattersall156So why are there more male narcissists than there are female?

[@ejtattersall156]

@@meow2u22There is a difference between NPD and narcissism. Women believe men owe them everything in return for nothing. That's narcissism. And the difference between males with NPD and females is 3%.

[@serraangel7465]

@@mydrouno I make my man breakfast becauss I want him to go to work loved. You just are sad no one is willing to love you.

[@MrVesperatu]

Here to tell you about how feminism isnt failing: two feminists to discuss why men are wrong.

[@billbillards569]

1 in 6 men are correct.

[@cryptidsntunes]

1 in 6 men should never get any again, ever 😂

[@easyflowjoe875]

The only thing that will save these young men is poetry. POETRY IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY🧐🧐 Just say this Haiku, More Glow The Orange Water, Much Gold To Old Winter, Mary Glad That Ocean Warm.@@cryptidsntunes

[@billc5433]

People often mistake something good happening to another person as being bad for them, which is rarely, if ever the case. Eitherway, while I think men are facing a mental health crisis, and that the internet is NOT helping, it's not women's fault.

[@josephsonora3787]

Thanks for your worthless insight Dr. Freud. Oh! I meant to say Dr. Fraud! 😆

[@crazyzombie9720]

Oh sure. Women never do anything wrong. Uh huh 🫤

[@billc5433]

@@crazyzombie9720 Your reaction to something that I didn't say is a sign that maybe whatever problems you might be having, won't be solved in the KZbin comment section.

[@maskassmario321]

i'm one of them.

[@peacenow4456]

What a BS study, this demographic never raises their heads away from their video games. How'd they get them on the phone?

[@zepher664]

I thought similarly when I was 16, but I started thinking differently by the time I was 20. That said, if someone still genuinely believes that tripe when they are 29, don't hold your breath that they will ever think differently.

[@jannibal9273]

It is a well known that males often don't mature as quickly as females do. Maybe Mr. 29 will wise up when he's looking for a partner and no one will take him seriously.

[@zepher664]

@jannibal9273 It's not impossible, but that kind of change is quite difficult and takes a lot of effort. It is especially difficult when one needs to challenge their own core beliefs/values.

[@futurestoryteller]

What's "emerging" about this? I'm supposed to believe this wouldn't have been worse 30 years ago?

[@krismasten2073]

And in other news, 1 in 6 men wonders: "Why don't girls like me?" 😅

[@BurningRubber454]

Says while being part of a misandry group (modern feminism)

[@georgepoore3840]

I'm with the majority for a change, I much appreciate strong independent women. They're good company.

[@johnbrown4949]

1 In 6? 😂😂 yeah right. More like 4-5 out of 6.

[@Abmotsad]

I'm a little surprised it's that low, too. Because people are, well, so stupid.

[@issakleonard1]

The manosphere online is part of this...

[@Sarcasmarkus]

Mgtow is more of a grassroots thing, manosphere is a bunch of people trying to capitalize off of it.

[@jeremysmetana8583]

Yes, I am a man, but was raised feminist by an ex-hippy single mother in the SF Bay Area. As I've grown older, I've come to think of Feminism as a bandaid and Humanism as a cure. No, they are not the same thing. The former was useful for a time, but I think in the post-Tumblr/post-Rowling age we are foolish - or dishonest - to fall back to the old dictionary definition of an idealized Feminism to define what it has become, which is often a tool to bludgeon, belittle or just plain harm others, and not just straight men. I think we need to rip that old bandaid off and embrace Humanism completely, for all of our sakes. Feminism has proven itself easily weaponized and easily corruptible, I would say due to its very necessarily narrow focus (that's not strictly a modern thing; I grew up well aware that some prominent feminists of the '70s would have happily considered castrating me as a child - not an exaggeration, look it up). I've never seen Humanism used as a weapon. Now, I consider what I've said above a thoughtful response based on a lot of reflection over a long time. I didn't call names or accuse anybody of being a horrible person. I in no way implied anybody was inferior to myself or my gender, and in fact I am concerned for everybody here, across every spectrum, being treated equally. Yet, somehow I know comments directed at me will question my manhood and ability to get a date or procreate, etc.. That sort of personalized, personally-directed toxic feminism is just the tip of the iceberg I am talking about. It's toxic behavior, in action, by people who identify as Feminist, and act with the privilege they believe that affords them.

[@shelleymays8529]

I am hoping the collective thought of humans, all humans, can aspire to being humane. Until we elect humane thinking individuals to political offices. Until we stop trying to control each other from an egotistical point of view. We cant be seen as humane. We still have a lot of work to do. I have hope.

[@dahnoied6893]

I hate the term feminist. How about "equalist" instead. Every person on this planet should have equal rights and voice.

[@KxNOxUTA]

Not how this works. In order to sort out a problem, your MUST name the problem. The reason equity (we don't settle for equality, dear) is NOT the status quo, is because women's rights and archaic feminine traits in ppl of any and no genders in specific are NOT treated with equity. We literally have what you are saying. It is called "human rights movement" and it literally addresses the issues in which rights of humans are hurt regardless of gender. Feminism IS about women and feminine aspects and we get to name it by what is does. By the time we have equity, you will no longer have this movement. But even then, you will likely still have movements that advocate for women specific issues. Because there ARE unique issues that are women specific even in a society that has equity. Please stop framing women's movements as having to revolve around men, too, even in the naming. No. Feminism as a movement absolutely addresses issues that impact me negatively due to e.g. "feminine traits in men" being shamed. Still, it's "FEMININE traits shamed in men" and thus it's feminism. If you hate the term, then it is high time you looked into that part of yourself that hates the term. If you hate the term just because you would like for the lack of equity to stop, then that is very understandable but it is currently NOT our reality. And thus, you should be the first to assure everyone including yourself is so comfortable with the term feminism, that we reach equity and can all go back to concentrating on maintaining human rights and frankly "The rights of all in existence" (aka living beings, nature as such, the very universe that we've been plastering with our satellite garbage). I feel you, if what you log for is peace, but it's disrespectful to fake peace by covering the needs of disregarded groups under a rug, when they are indeed NOT currently in a state of equity at all.

[@BurningRubber454]

@@KxNOxUTAsays while women have more Rights then men

[@NotBoringFilms]

i give up on American women. im looking for a partner overseas.

[@sisuguillam5109]

Oh, look a passport bro.

[@NotBoringFilms]

@@sisuguillam5109 exactly my point.

[@crazyzombie9720]

@@sisuguillam5109 Yep. That’s right.

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@NotBoringFilms oh, kiddo...

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@crazyzombie9720 bit sad, isn't it?

[@billycole2653]

More comments than likes. As a guy i can assure its way higher than 1 in 6😂😂😂😂.

[@buddmcclure]

Look guys, I can tell you how to get rid of feminism. Be kind to your women. Be involved in her life. Man up and provide for the children you made together and fight for her equality when she is striving to reach her own goals. Embrace romance with her and really listen to her when you're talking to her. You have to let her know that you NEED her and never want to lose her. If she does leave you DO NOT STALK HER!!

[@eric2500]

NOT "YOUR WOMEN". You don't own women or men. Try to own yourself.

[@crazyzombie9720]

“Be kind to your women” Have you been kind to your men?

[@bosshogg95SLT]

but what if they make a child and he wants it but she doesnt and what if she decides one day shes bored and she wants some one new should he be forced into child support on her whim should his child be kept from him because all she has to do is say he abuses her youre just a little off base there

[@killersugar6816]

Wouldn’t feminists say that expecting the man to provide for the family diminishes the woman? Holding the door is an insult to her independence?

[@katherines144]

Yeah don't stalk her. Jesus H Christ the bar is at the Earth's core for "good behavior"

[@LostInTheSauce666]

5 in 6 stopped caring 😂

[@eat.a.dick.google]

5 in 6 are beta soy boys. Down society goes.

[@cecilelaforce3686]

Oh come on, journalists. Meaning 83% of men don't say this. Thankfully, we have 83% of American men who are secure men. They all have moms and sisters they would want to get ahead just like anyone else.