One of my Favorite companies, gone.

[@TheGameBench]

It's really sad when making a quality product that lasts puts you out of business.

[@rubiconnn]

Honestly the Sennheiser headphones I've bought over the years have not been even remotely good. They are made of very cheap plastic and components and weren't sturdy. There are far sturdier and better quality headphones available for cheaper.

[@Poonannyish]

I've bought 2 sets of Sennheiser headphones and they've both broken within a few months of light / casual use. Never again.

[@jacksonpaul5714]

@@rubiconnn their strength as a brand wasn't their budget offering. That's likely why you had an issue.

[@CrystallisedEntertainment]

Not the first time this has happened... Brands such as Acorn Computers has gone out of business because their machines had been built like tanks (my dad's RiscPC by Acorn is over 22 years old, and it's still going strong), so when their shiny new computer came along, not many people preordered it because other then speed, their machines were still working. Also little exclusive software (programs that would not run on Acorn's older machines) were probably another factor to why Acorn died. It's a shame that Sennheiser's consumer division has a similar fate as I LOVE my HD 595's! =|

[@jacocoetzee6429]

Its not a quality product its overpricing the product you can not expect people to pay 1699USD for the HD800 where as something like the DT 1990 Pro is almost a third of the price the sad reality is greed really plays a big role in companies having to sell or close down

[@adamgreenhill110]

"Planned obsolescence is absolutely a thing, and Sennheiser didn't do it. And now they're gone."

[@carlangelo653]

Sad reality of most enthusiast brands really. Just look at AKG, now their logo is plastered on Samsung ear beans.

[@somnorila9913]

This is one of those things that go against logic but works. And i suppose it's because most of the current global wealth is not created but merely just moved around. We are the product that is farmed, the consumers. That's why we have economies based on consumerism and debt. You can work all your life and never be able to make what a viral 30 seconds video can make you. Or you can work all life and become a master blacksmith or whatever and barely sell your work at a fraction of some digital product like a Steam skin. Creating value is hard, so taking what already exists from others is easier. It's the basis of every war, stealing is easier than building. The issue is that it doesn't work forever and every economic bubble is a statement to that, we need balance. We need to be able to conscientiously abstain from certain approaches that do have a clear apparently profitable effect. It's the same way at a macro level as with one single individual. In order to live longer and be happier you need to be able to make some of your time a hard and boring time. To educate yourself, to be able to abstain from eating junk and so on, basically to have the proper discipline. So in order to have healthier societies we all need to create value even if that would mean that overall we might make less money at an individual level. It seems counter intuitive both ways. How in hell a company or product would fail if all you aim is to make it the best you can? Or, how can you feel better and satisfied when you purposely aim for a lower return for your effort? Balance is a tricky problem that we definitely didn't mastered, and by this time i don't even think that we may ever do. I'm not religious, but gluttony was pointed as sin for a reason.

[@trithos7308]

A great example why capitalism just doesn't work out in the long run unless artificially prolonged.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

@@carlangelo653 - That's all just Harman(/Kardon) now... - Even some guitar-equipment stuff like DigiTech is under them now. Harman is like the Disney of the audio-industry lately.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

What does it matter that they're gone if they've produced good and reliable products?... If they're good, they should still be around and be around for a while. If these things cease to exist or become so expensive because of pretentious people, then so be it and there will be other products by other companies. I've gotten Fostex ones with really large planar drivers. Even if Fostex would cease to exist, these things will probably still be around decades from now. I mean, the way I see it; After 75 years, they've done their job. This is it and it doesn't have to be a bad thing.

[@JonoSSD]

Sennheiser went under before I could even afford one of their headphones.

[@ILostMyLamp]

i will still be able to buy their old products

[@kasgrieve9741]

All of their Headphones, even ones for 10-20 years ago honestly sound as good as even the modern ones, and build quality too has always been great, so you can easily look at pre owned/ older headphones for the same great quality

[@Jakepf]

Facts lol

[@POVShotgun]

200 dollars ain’t too much

[@ericsmith6692]

Iam , sorry to hear that!, there must be a Pair somewhere in A store !, I am in South Africa and I got A pair of HD 450BT. about 6 months ago. I love the sound reproduction. ....

[@alybe1801]

Man, that's so sad. I always saw Sennheiser as legends, and one of the Top-tier Audio Companies that's been doing quality audiophile headphones for years, and to see them gone, just like that. It's just genuinely sad 😕

[@rudranewaz6664]

that's enthusiast products it doesnt sell...

[@bbbbbbb51]

@@rudranewaz6664 sad, but true.

[@carlangelo653]

That has always been a big problem with enthusiast brands. They just don't sell enough product to make enough money to sustain the company. Same thing happened to AKG, now you see that AKG logo plastered on samsung ear beans.

[@williamguisan832]

@@carlangelo653 No AKG was totally different. Samsung is a huuuge company active in many different markets. Samsung bought the Harman group which AKG was in. Its really not understandable what they did with AKG. Now Sennheiser wanted to sell their CE part of the company for a while now. So to have a specialized swiss company buying it instead of some giant or chinese company is probably the best outcome possible. I dont understand people saying the brand is "gone". It wont be, the CEO of Senova stated they want to keep everything where it is now, since "that is where the expertise is". "There wont be any changes for the customer" and "we want to keep the team together". Their goal is to "make Sennheiser more attractive to a younger audience" for them to stay competitive. I think this is a good outcome for the situation Sennheiser was in.

[@carlangelo653]

​@@williamguisan832 What I ultimately meant was a lot of enthusiast companies end up either selling parts of their companies or they go public and get acquired by larger entities, even worse is they might just downright die off. In Sennheiser's case I'm not saying it's gone, or anything like that, I'm just pointing out that this is what happens to a lot of enthusiast companies like them, because their business model is incredibly hard to sustain.

[@BigBoyDuckie]

The hurr durr sixhundro's from ol' mate senny

[@chippychop4690]

Ah... I see you're a DankPods Enjoyer as well. Remarkable!

[@mintynuggets]

I love my Dinguspods

[@NotCerius]

Dingus!

[@gregfrohwein5579]

THAT WAS MY LINE

[@crispychip7696]

Under-rated comment

[@WhoEls]

Sonova is the world leader in medical grade hearing aid systems, they won't compromise the brand reputation.

[@arjun6358]

They'll make planned hearing problems probably

[@OmeGardian]

@@arjun6358 i literally LOLed :D

[@lilvodka7500]

They're already doing that, outsourcing their manufacturing to China...

[@WhoEls]

@@lilvodka7500 China is not the low quality manufacturing location you remember from 20 years ago. iPhones are manufactured in China too.

[@lilvodka7500]

@@WhoEls Okay dearest CCP supporter, I know that. China manufactures just about anything and everything by now. What I specifically talk about would be the new, stiffer ear-pads that objectively give you worse isolation and sound...

[@Matkinson123]

Also got a pair of old HD595 headphones. Whilst I don't use them anymore, they're indestructible and the most comfortable headphones ever.

[@wing_nut_1018]

Audeze LCD 2s seen and appreciated in the profile pic ;)

[@Microwave414]

And that right their is the problem, I mean it's not a problem for us consumers but it is a problem for manufactures because they live and die by you, the consumer, buying a another one after some time and I say this as an hd580 owner with replaced wires and earpads but the whole thing still functions just fine otherwise.

[@thegloriouspotato6223]

I got a pair of hd598s, and still use them all the time at school. I stuff them in my backpack every day, and they still have no damage at all

[@jackpat6068]

Same. I have the 595s too. Had them for over 5 years I believe. Ages basically. They sound fantastic and still in 1 piece

[@reinhardvanastrea9954]

Hurdurs to be accurate

[@Mfdoorway]

Sennheiser professional still is around as far as I know. Sweetwater, here I come.

[@landonpeckham7752]

Sweetwater is amazing

[@Mfdoorway]

@@landonpeckham7752 I live in fort wayne and their facility is amazing. If you ever get a chance, go during gearfest. It’s totally worth the trip.

[@joshentertainment2]

Does sennheiser pro make hd600 hd 650 800 850

[@kyrieeleison3355]

@@joshentertainment2 as far as the community is aware, yes, the 6x0 series (the most important ones), is part of the "pro" headphones, so in theory, they shouldnt be directly affected

[@landonpeckham7752]

@@Mfdoorway how big is gearfest? I kinda live in Cali which is more than far.

[@OCtheG]

It was literally the only audio equipment I was comfortable buying, that’s heartbreaking. My last Senheissers lasted so long they eventually got stolen!

[@JaxDobba]

Sorry to hear that they got stolen :( any recommendations?

[@abhijiths457]

Mine also got stolen 🥲

[@Jackofhearts214]

Audio-Technica is still great!

[@Bob.martens]

Same here. Get them stolen if you want new one:)

[@edddie7563]

@@Jackofhearts214 lol no the m50s are thrash and sound like they’re stabbing your ears with knives, don’t trust you tubers pls

[@thelonesculler]

*first ten seconds* Me: Wait WHAT?!!!! Man Dankpods is gonna be disappointed now that Sennheiser could be going the same way as AKG

[@yesitshassan]

What happen to AKG(afaik Harman was bought by Samsung and companies like Harman Kardon, AKG and JBL were under the acquisition)

[@michaelmartin2150]

@@yesitshassan akg was bought and subsequently ruined by samsung. Akg is just a marketing label now, its not like they do anything anymore

[@thecompanioncube4211]

@@michaelmartin2150 I have heard the old AKG folks have created their own separate company Edit: It's Austrian audio GMBH

[@vali69]

"Hearing aids with audio provided by sennheiser" ah if only that was the case. It seems they'll keep the company just as it was if the sale goes through to the end. And they'll definitely not stop making hurr durr six hungeos when they are so profitable

[@kav12ab]

@@vali69 Samsung ruined AKG. Just a sticker for them to slap on mediocre products

[@otherssingpuree1779]

Their headphones last. People use them for over a decade. My skullcandy now only functions with one cup after only 5 years.

[@Aomicplane]

That's because skullcandy is rather a fashion brand instead of a serious audio company like Sennheiser, Audio Technica, Beyerdynamic etc

[@sim2er]

Lucky yours lasted that long. They had a replacement policy for a while where you'd get 50% off no matter how destroyed your originals were.

[@nachiketh3650]

Skullcandy is shit, only to make a fashion statement. I have had the Uprock, Bass 2 and 3 BT. They are zero on quality.

[@fist003]

5 years are more than good enough

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

I've used a set that was released in the mid-'80s or something, that would be 35+ years old, and it... worked until a while ago, when one side sadly stopped working. I had bought a new cable for it, as I assumed that after all this time there might be a break somewhere (and I've really accidentally "abused" that cable), but it didn't help when I attached the new one. - I have Fostex ones now, which will probably last even longer, and they have great definition. - The Sennheisers I had needed a lot of help in the low and high-end, but they definitely had a more "classic" character, so it's probably better I moved on.

[@shadouxg7150]

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain, seinheiser decided to die hero

[@mineturte]

very true

[@pfitz9346]

Minus all the awful headphones they've also released over the last decade or so of course. Sennheiser did make some good headphones, key term being "some." Everyone knows Sennheiser for the HD600s. They haven't produced those in decades. In the meantime their product lineup is either clones of the HD600 (which are by all accounts great), boutique products too expensive for the average consumer, or are overpriced cheap garbage like pretty much anything they sold in the $100 range.

[@sunni96]

Wow so original

[@Aka.Aka.]

Except the fact that they sold headphones that even samson could destroy at 1/10th the price

[@ligametis]

@@pfitz9346 hd 598, hd 558, hd 518 are very good for their price, especially their durability. Not everyone can spend that much for headphones to afford HD 600 series

[@AAAA_abcd]

Now we can buy headphones and the consequential hearing aids from the same company. Oh joy.

[@106640guy]

Theyre gonna add volume dials that go too high

[@Lianpe98]

😆

[@MarnixUwU]

That's how Jabra's parent company works as well though, so it's not unique.

[@Rainaman-]

Expect volume boost

[@triton62674]

Vertical integration

[@williamguisan832]

Guys, there is not much to get upset about / worry about. Sonova specifically pointed out that they will keep all jobs and manufacturing location the same. Arnd Kaldowski, CEO of Sonova: "We want to keep team and location, since that is where the expertise is" and "it would not make sense to move everything away / to switzerland". The Goal is "to keep the Team together". Currently they are discussing details on how the seperation to the rest of the Sennheiser brand should be made. He also said "For customers there will be no change" and that they can learn alot from each other. They plan a segment of "small, mobile, wireless audio-amplifiers". All in all i think we can calm down, it's nothing bad. This is not Harman - Samsung and what happend to AKG and Co. Sonova is a specialized swiss company, not a huge company like Samsung that sells products in so many different markets. Some good swiss management wont hurt Senni ;)

[@RusticRonnie]

I think it'll be fine for a few years but, be aware of newer product

[@Sinsanatis]

Ig we shall see

[@williamguisan832]

@@RusticRonnie yea i get what you are saying, they did state they want to make the brand "more attractive to a younger audience too", but i am convinced that doesen't mean they will stop making already existing models or only put out fancy looking mainstram consumer headphones (and they already do that anyway)

[@williamguisan832]

Sennheiser has been trying to find someone to buy their CE Production for a while, so they would habe been bought by someone at some point, so I think a swiss hearing company is great. It could have been bougt by some chinese company like all other companys or by someone like Samsung who just moves all production to china. This wont happen here. People here predicting the end of sennheiser, but that is very unlikely and not sure at all, since we dont know details about the deal yet.

[@dhgelling]

what happened to AKG?

[@beccaninglights]

Wow... okay, my first reaction to hearing Sennheiser selling their audio division out was "SON OF A -" ... which I guess is phonetically close enough to "Sonova" 😂

[@Mr.Deeds.]

😂😂

[@MahmoudMaguid]

I don't usually comment, that this dervered a comment, and here it is... Brilliant 😂

[@OleJanssen]

The thing with Sennheiser is that they still make plenty money with professional sound equipment and installations, while their consumer department is barely profitable.

[@JordonBeal]

This. Sennheiser is a pro audio company first, and consumer audio way, way, way last.

[@bassdroppointsource]

Sennheiser also owns Neumann, so between the two they’re pushing a lot of volume at pretty high margin.

[@nicdee316]

Haha yeah that's the funny part, all those tech guys thinking Sennheiser is going under. No. The make microphones (and wireless gear), first and foremost, headphones (especially consumer grade ones) always was an afterthought.

[@SKY11211213]

@@bassdroppointsource yup. proudly own NDH20 and a NM Stage mic for general use. I love the brand for the quality.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Wearing my oldie HD558, I shed a tear. It seems like the only way to make your company survive is to make people buy your product that's guaranteed to break after 6 months

[@Walterrinho]

as luke said, seems companies need to plan obsolescence to keep selling.

[@mxmobile5619]

Because it is. If the product doesn’t break it needs to be insanely overpriced, part of a service, or produced by a very small company. So sennys hands were tied here, their option was make their headphones part of a service or downsize very quickly laying off hundreds if not thousands of people.

[@houssamalucad753]

@@mxmobile5619 or sell in huge volumes. And as big as the audiophile community is, it is rather small in the bigger picture.

[@shadouxg7150]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii fiman

[@LeFatalpotato]

Or slap an apple logo on it Or better yet, both

[@manuelhernandez6801]

I can’t believe no one else is talking about this. All those headphone reviewers have not posted anything on this. This is why LTT is one of the best tech channels. Good on you team

[@dudemanismadcool]

I wonder what will happen to the drop 6xx? I have gotten the Sundaras and as good as they image and the detail they present, they don't impart the soul the 6xx/650 can. Such a legend of a can.

[@Muffin_Masher]

and then Linus went and "liked" the 3080Ti :D presumably with Nvidia holding a gun at him off screen :D

[@Osprey1994]

Dude…they omitted so much information. The other channels are most likely waiting to see what happens.

[@Epsi1ong]

DMS did an interview with sonoma on his channel, you can go check it out

[@henryscott4811]

yea DMS did a video and on top of that head fi had threat I believe. tldr, support for and the consumer division is going nowhere, maybe enhanced by this partnership with sonova

[@acewintersofficial]

Me looking at my collection of Sennheiser headphones. An end of an era.

[@thelonesculler]

*cradles my huh duh six hungeos by 'ol mate Senny*

[@acewintersofficial]

I was wearing my hurr derr six hundos when I watched this.... Sad

[@thelonesculler]

@@acewintersofficial I see you are a man of culture as well

[@mastroitek]

I'm still a student so I could not buy many headphones in the last years, I don't have just Sennheiser but also other brands. But when I read the news I got emotional because I love how they sound.

[@Technology_addict]

@@mastroitek also a student, if you haven't got any, try get the 58xs, they're really nice and basically the same as the 600s, Mr dank seemed to like them so I bought them and I'm still wowed by the sound!

[@Renée1_1]

Old man sennie you ok?

[@Joseph_mama]

No, old mate sennie is not ok (Btw are you a dankpods fan?)

[@Renée1_1]

@@Joseph_mama of course

[@Joseph_mama]

@@Renée1_1 i wonder if he will make a vid about it, considering the importance of the hd600 (and the senhiser brand in general in the dankpods universe

[@Renée1_1]

@@Joseph_mama maybe

[@baconwizard]

@@Joseph_mama The DpCU?

[@Real_MisterSir]

Sennheiser is probably one of the only audio companies I would consider staying loyal to, out of sheer respect for the products they make (or made). Very few tech companies today ever reach that status. Sad to see them fall to the ever increasing battle of creating more products that last fewer years. It's a sickness without a true cure, and worst of all is that no one is trying to even research a cure for it.

[@HeresorLegacy]

A huge problem for Sennheiser (and many German companies in general) was, and is, corporate espionage. To compete with international production cost German companies moved their production to China and other low-wage countries, with the result that their research was stolen on those production sites. Often the same factories that were tasked with creating the product that was developed in Germany would produce identical products with lower quality standards.

[@eddusii]

This hurt my heart and my soul, they decided to keep their dignity instead of joining the crowd and still found a way to keep the products on the market and keep their support for their customers!

[@trevor245]

I mean you say that. But selling the rights to put the sennheiser brand on headphones kinda is the same as dragging your own brand through the mud depending on what the new company is gonna do with the rights.

[@afrog2666]

@@trevor245 Only if the buyer is a muddy company that doesn`t respect the product line and consumers. At least they`re selling to audio experts, and not some hip hop artist..

[@trevor245]

@@afrog2666 there is a reason sennheiser had to sell their headphone division, you can't expect thee new company to keep doing the same thing

[@pongchannel.]

@@trevor245 apparently senihiers are good so ima buy a used sennheiser is the important part

[@trevor245]

@@pongchannel. Sennheisers have always been good and that's the problem they also discussed in the video. The product they designed 20-30 years ago is so good that people aren't buying anything else. If you are gonna buy a sennheiser second hand you should look at a pair of hd 590s if you want something to use with your phone or a pair of hd560 or hd580/hd600s if you want something you can use with an amplifier.

[@northernleigonare]

I just read this and I think this is going to be interesting. Because they weren't just assimilated into a larger brand like say, Corsair or Bose, I think Sennheiser will stick around at least in terms of development of their audio products. So they aren't gone completely, but they aren't selling their audio products independently either.

[@danieljensen2626]

I think it's actually just the "consumer" (i.e. non-professional) headphone market they're letting go of. They've always been primarily a professional audio company (microphones, studio monitors, etc) so I think they're going to go back to focusing on that. It's a bit confusing that they also sold the name so there will basically be two Sennheisers, but I guess it's like how there are two Yamahas.

[@nekekaminger]

I had a discussion about this topic with one of Sennheiser's sales people a while ago. He said they really weren't selling headphones in really large volumes anymore the last few years. Headphones have become mostly a fashion accessory and Sennheiser wasn't willing to put trendy looks and endorsement by celebrities above building a high quality head phone, making them unable to compete against brands like beats.

[@rrroi86]

That's one of the problems with the music/audio industry, a lot of equipment doesn't just get left behind like graphics cards and cpus do. Even the industry is somewhat self-aware about this, with 'vintage' being a selling point for a lot of audio equipment. The formula for audio equipment is almost perfect at this point and the only way to go is to the moon with absurd high end stuff, which doesn't really work for the common market; or additional features that the user may or may not need, which doesn't work well with the hardcore market.

[@linusmushroomtips776]

bruh _(this comment was made by Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT gang)_

[@benjaminoconnor460]

I love my hd 4.50 btnc

[@DasDieDerErik]

My HD4.40BT is fine, but I had to put additional padding on the head band, that shit caused me more headaches than my university.

[@shayan-gg]

@@benjaminoconnor460 i used to think same till i tried real headphones

[@rishikrishnanpk8931]

A proud owner of Sennheiser 4.40BT. Still lasting me throughout 2020, attending all online classes all day all time

[@William_CD]

YEESSS I HAVE THOSEEE

[@phillippi2]

I'm a bit late to this but, I'd like to say; Thank you, Sennheiser. I wish more organizations did what you did. Maybe we'd have more respectable businesses.

[@jonathanriggs6564]

As someone who has lived in the world of people never understanding that a cochlear implant is not the same as a hearing aid, I really appreciate that Linus is informed and was able to give a legitimate explanation.

[@Automatic-Diaphragm]

well a cochlear implant is a type of a hearing aid

[@jonathanriggs6564]

@@Automatic-Diaphragm no actually it isn't. It's a hearing replacement. It does no aid your existing hearing, it knocks out and replaces it with digital hearing

[@ivanmalinovski7807]

@@jonathanriggs6564 So would you say it aids your ability to hear sounds?

[@jonathanriggs6564]

@@ivanmalinovski7807 no, it is your ability to hear sounds. It cannot aid something you otherwise wouldn't have.

[@serpounce7255]

@@jonathanriggs6564 Only the middle ear acoustic process is bypassed, the inner ear has to be normal for the implant to work so no it doesnt 'replace' natural hearing but only part of it

[@adityachaudhry7566]

There problem was that they couldn't obsolete their existing products. Once you buy a pair of their headphones, they last so long, that you dont buy more than like 2 headphones in all your life. Its crazy

[@afrog2666]

That`s just not correct, plenty of people own many different pairs and anyone who DJ`S them or brings them on trips, tpo school et cetera, manage to break them. If Sennheiser only sold a few pairs here and there, they wouldn`t be so successful..

[@atilamotila8907]

@affaan ahmad Of course they were sold to a medical hearing company

[@silverfall469]

I think i've had my headphones for well over 5 years, only had to replace the ear pads as they have worn out twice in that time which is really good considering i have used them almost every day since i bought them.

[@PetarMakesNoise]

​@@atilamotila8907 doesn't mean that necessarily. Companies buy other companies for expertise, intelectual property etc. Sonova probably wanted to get experts from Sennheiser, and their IP - but couldn't "steal" them otherwise. Business move was made, they bought the company. They'll have access to their engineers, smarts, IP etc, and probably still continue to make headphones (maybe in some reduced range - we'll see), but I seriously doubt they're just gonna burry the whole company in the ground after buying it. Doesn't make sense from business perspective. In my career, two of the companies I worked for went through acquisition, and none of them stopped doing what they did, rather grew even more due to access to new clients and IP.

[@Texas240]

@@afrog2666 - I've had my pair for 8, maybe 10 years. I travel for work and they get folded, unfolded, banged up, dropped, sat on, etc and the ONLY thing wrong with them is that ear cup outer layer wore out and the cord outer braiding came loose from where the cord attaches to the ear cup. Sound, both incoming and outgoing is good as the day I bough them.

[@linuxliaison]

The hearing company bought the sennheiser IP to improve the acoustics processing of their implants and that’s insane

[@70RCH]

I really don't know who decided this was a good idea, because honestly this seems like a bad idea and I hate it. Damn this hurts ☹️

[@romulas-cushmanproject3273]

$$$$ you can make a really good product, but if it can’t make profit, your product will eventually crumble

[@70RCH]

@@romulas-cushmanproject3273 of course, that totally makes sense -- it's totally fair to want to meet profit margins. I just would have thought (or at least I'd personally prefer) that they consider changing their approach to marketing / manufacturing rather than "selling out"... Maybe they tried, but it's just a sad day for us audiophiles.

[@nafimkhan9462]

This is exactly how akg died

[@hjy2187418]

@@nafimkhan9462 akg is alive

[@rudranewaz6664]

maybe they got goood $$ deal

[@adineamtz]

I still have a pair of HD 430s from 1979 that I got from my grandpa. It's amazing how well they still hold up.

[@jacrowe1984]

Have a pair or HD550’s, they are the best headphones I’ve ever had and love the fact I can replace parts without replacing the whole things (ear pads/cable).

[@headstrong52]

Linus knowing the beef around implants and absolutely (rightly so) not wanting to touch it with a 10 foot pole was really entertaining Edit: the ethics and personal politics surrounding wearables in general would be an interesting topic to see more content on ie Google glass recording, etc

[@GENIRYODAN]

Anyone redpill me on the beef? Never knew there was even one

[@changoleon-zv1rc]

whats the beef around implants?

[@justuseodysee7348]

@@changoleon-zv1rc I'm curious too - I thought restoring lost hearing is fairly uncontroversial thing

[@controlledsingularity8084]

@@justuseodysee7348 Some deaf people take extreme offense at the fact that other deaf people get implants,they see it as a betrayal.I think they are just fkn crazy.

[@diewollsocke2674]

@@GENIRYODAN Long story short: Some people say that beeing deaf is nothing that needs fixing. A good movie touching this topic is "The Sound of Metal".

[@netmaster88]

Steve at Gamer's Nexus said the exact same thing. He basically said he would never start his own case manufacturing company because of tooling cost but he would consider one day maybe partnering with a company purely just for design input.

[@wsippel]

I guess they'll use the Neumann brand for professional audio gear in the future. Neumann has an incredible reputation, every professional in the industry knows that brand, and I think Neumann has been a division of Sennheiser for quite a few years now.

[@thefrankenator]

you realise that sennheiser headphones was only a side project compared to their main business of microphones and pro audio equipment right? the high street audio market has always been a small part of their business

[@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg]

Neumann is overrated. You can get the same sound for so much cheaper. I don't get all of the hype behind it.

[@NotNiekie]

Noooo! Now I can't get any new Huh-Duh Six Hungos by uh *SENN*

[@LillyGamesx]

Huh duh six hundos by ol mate senny

[@thilotech]

They're still producing them, they aren't shutting down

[@CallSignCosmic]

Ngl I wanna 1 grit ol mate senny rn

[@williamguisan832]

yes you can

[@datutturugang666]

i guess you still can tho

[@12chrisrob]

I feel the same with my DT 770. I throw them around, sat on them multiple times, rolled on the cable with my LayZBoy chair and they still work flawlessly.

[@YeatzeeGuitar]

HD6XX is my favorite set of headphones. I use them every day for hours.

[@bak174]

' Well, guess I gotta buy them HD600’s sooner rather than later. RIP old man Sennie :(

[@joshentertainment2]

Yeah me too but i think they maby gonna continue the headphone series

[@eduardoarias240sx]

Oi, here from dankpods?

[@AyaseChan94]

Hoedoe six hundos by old mate sennie

[@owenoreilly_20]

@@eduardoarias240sx indeed

[@owenoreilly_20]

I found him around 30k subs and was like holy shit he got big quick

[@flixelgato1288]

It's so weird that focusing just on high quality products for people who know what they're buying ends up leading to low sale volumes that put you out of business.

[@creampielover69]

Sennheiser was one of the few companies that really went overboard with quality on their higher range products. But just imagine you get an HE1 (a bit over the top, but you know what I want to say here) and they break after, lets say 10 Years. I know I'd be pissed off.

[@erock81487]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnSXeYishtuUndE

[@saminamanat]

to fight against planned obsolescence I'm motivated to buy new senheisser headphones. my 598s have lasted forever, they're just too good

[@FSXgta]

I got the 560S and I recommend them

[@Fozzedout]

Sadly, this is why planned obsolescence is a thing: to literally stop the company going out of business. It just sucks :(

[@peksn]

That's BC of the way the current system works, it is materially doable, not financially as we can see, at least not in a consumption based system

[@le_floofy_sniper_ducko]

its a thing because of greed more than anything honestly planned obsolescence is a pretty petty way of business in general honestly

[@XxxTheGoldenApplexxX]

@@le_floofy_sniper_ducko i mean you say that but basically a lot of companies would just shrink and die out if consumers dont have to buy a product more than once

[@Christian-os3kk]

@@XxxTheGoldenApplexxX but is that really such a bad thing?

[@ExtremelyAnonymous420]

actually if the companies didnt have to have a fixed schedule of say release a new gadget every year and instead every 3 years or so it would have been a lot easier and planned obsolescence wouldnt be as noticable, because by then most of the products would be atleast out of warranty

[@ElectroIite]

Sennheiser made some of the best headphones I had the pleasure to hear. I'm still rocking my Sennheiser here.

[@poppinlochnesshopster3249]

You clearly don't own a high priced pair of SH cans, they're shit.

[@Tanjimulchowdhury]

I live in Rajshahi, Bangladesh. I genuinely had a dream. As an audiophile I wanted to see an outlet of Sennheiser in Rajshahi, I would have been the first customer of that outlet. I would have felt proud that my city has become cosmopolitan. Now that dream is gone. That is how big of a company Sennheiser is, that our dreams are attached to it. I am devastated at the news. And btw my first "high end" headphones were from Sennheiser as well, thery are still running after 5 years! This world is such a f***d up place, where unethical companies like apple goes to the top and ethical companies like Sennheiser has to go down. Lastly, love and respect to all the members of that amazing company, you guys are legends, be proud.

[@truedarklander]

Well Sennheiser doesn't really have outlets anywhere

[@williamguisan832]

you realize they still are here

[@thefrankenator]

Sennheiser headphones were just a small part of their company, they have been always more focused on their professional equipment and microphones. the consumer market is too unpredictable and tight on price margins. they make MUCH more money from their pro audio equipment

[@Aiello_]

I love my HD599, the only problem I have with is finding replacement parts, cables and earpads but other than that, it's great

[@Aiello_]

@@Tolrias i wish i could but Sennheiser Brazil is awful, i've been trying to get those cables for 2 years now, i'm probably going to need one of those nice custom cables haha

[@hal9xxx321]

There are a TON of options for 599 pads and aftermarket cables on AliExpress. I bought a cheap 22USD 2 pin braided cable for my HD650 and they're absolutely fantastic. I'd still recommend looking for genuine earpads though if you want to make it sonically the same

[@OfficialMaxBox]

What?? They're.. far and away the best brand of headphones I've had across multiple purchases. Will Sonova start to produce headsets of their own?

[@ee1yd]

which brands of headphones have you had? minus anything gaming related

[@ShockingPikachu]

I mean it’s probably an unfair comparison but my senheiser BT 4.40 is more expensive than my Beyerdynamic DT990 pros and my Beyerdynamic flog them with the sound quality. But to keep in mind the senheisers are Bluetooth and the DT990pros aren’t. Buuuut the DT990pros have metal and rigid, solid plastic and the senheisers don’t feel as well built. For what you pay, could be better definitely but they were on sale (heavily) and I needed headphones to use with my iPhone

[@TomMRF]

@@ShockingPikachu You were right when you said it's an unfair comparison. Bluetooth headphones are ALWAYS worse than cable headphones at a similar (or even slightly higher) price point. That has nothing to do with the company. Further, the DT990 pros are open back headphones while the BT 4.40 aren't, that also makes a big difference. A fair comparison at a similar price point would be the Sennheiser HD 599 vs the regular Beyerdynamic DT990. And if you can afford to spend even more on headphones, the Sennheiser HD 600 are among the best headphones you can buy. Also, Beyerdynamic is probably the only company on a similar level to Sennheiser, so it really comes down to preference at that point. The mid & high end Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic headphones are all very very good.

[@ShockingPikachu]

@@TomMRF Headphone make ok sound. That good. Me no spend 600 on a pair of headphone. That not worth. Also the HD599 is twice the price of my headphones in my country and I’d argue for build quality to price Beyerdynamic is slightly better

[@TomMRF]

@@ShockingPikachu The HD 599 cost less than $200 (they are on sale often enough for $150 or so) and are significantly cheaper than the Dt990 Pro in most countries. The HD 600 cost about $350. So neither of them are anywhere near costing 600.

[@nuttySweeet]

I find it really funny that they're both so sad that they're going under when they are wearing their headphones that are decades old... It's no wonder they are going under, their products are too well made so people aren't buying them!

[@bbbbbbb51]

Truth is longevity is its own marketing team. When you make a good product that lasts, people are highly likely to recommend them of their own volition.

[@Steph.98114]

The issue is most people don't understand good audio, they see airpods and think that they are good

[@williamguisan832]

@@Steph.98114 Some people just dont need or want more, cant blame them. Audio is just a priority for people interested in it. Everyone spends their money and time on different things. Maybe some people would want better stuff if they just listened to some good gear ones

[@Rainaman-]

Their low and midrange is still shit.

[@ravenonthecross]

@@bbbbbbb51 dude no matter how hard you try, people will still buy airpods over these, because they saw it at TV and in artificial controversy articles and they "trust" it. Sound quality is not a selling point.

[@XhumanmeatX]

Recently purchased some hd560s's, and they have completely blown away myself and anyone that's tried them around me. Truly life changing, and it's sad to hear about this..

[@ChristopherWalkenActor]

Me and a friend used Sennheiser headphones while playing Counter-strike years ago. The audio was so good people would accuse us of hacking because we could hear enemies on the other sides of walls.

[@perigeedynamics5941]

Not joking when I say Sennheiser was the first audio experience that made me tear up.

[@gio9789]

Almost had an orgasm when I upgraded to my HD 450 BT

[@ilaserbia]

Same here. I really wanted to treat myself with the HD 650 in the future and really looked forward to being able to justify the cost and afford them. Just don't know if I should bite the bullet and get them now while they're still available even tho they way above my price range or forever miss out on this experience.

[@nospacesWFT]

A pair of HD 433s were probably my second headphones ever, after the Apple earbuds bundled with iPods - they might have been consumer-level cans, but they were a massive step up in sonic fidelity. I still have them on me, though only the left headphone has a signal and the pads need replacement.

[@liberatorkramit]

@@ilaserbia just do it. The nice thing about speakers and headphones is they never become obsolete. A good pair of headphones today, will be a good pair of headphones in 20 years. HD650’s were my first pair of “high end” headphones and I had them for 10 years. In fact they are one of the few things that I didn’t lose in the several times I have had to restart my life. Until they were finally stolen a few years back. I replaced them with the 6XX from Massdrop, and they aren’t bad, but they aren’t the same. You can always make more money,

[@michaelvictordimayuga3759]

Me too. Only brand of headphones I would ever use. Their budget line is not really sturdy but the sound quality is still BOSS! I only have the CX300 ones as I cannot afford the more expensive models and I absolutely love them!

[@Sporkyyyyyy]

Dankpods aint gonna be happy bout this one

[@Von_D]

At least he already has his Huh-duh 600.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

@@Von_D That Huh-duh 600 gonna last him his entire life I guarantee it

[@Sporkyyyyyy]

@@Von_D his ol mate

[@oooppiikkk]

Rip, another blast from the past when audio was still important a long long time ago.

[@joeyd199]

The last line from Luke broke my heart (as I listen to the show on my Sennheiser HD650 headphones). Damn that's deep.

[@Joseph_mama]

Why sennie

[@XYZ__-mv2vg]

when i was in college one of my friend told me to buy CX180 , and i did .I fell in love with it .It was so good , that i bought another one even they had avg built quality .Then i upgraded to CX 213 and also gifted one to someone .Its been 5-6 years i have been using the same company .It hurts they are no more .I still have my CX 213 and taking extra care of it as i couldnt find any more of them.

[@maulwurf11011991]

Same with Maglite, best flashlight through the 80s and 90s but totally overslept the LED trend. And now no one gives a crap about them even if they have lifetime warranty.

[@Humstuck]

I bought one a few years ago because I like the lighting pattern. I find it less aggressive and its just for support light and not to see in pitch black.

[@nastystang113]

Even before the LED flashlights really took off I never thought they were that great. I was born in the 80s and I just thought well I guess it’s a decent last ditch weapon.

[@maulwurf11011991]

@@nastystang113 Wich is probably the only reason they are still around^^

[@stoff3r]

I never felt they where that great either. Seemed to allways break even though you could replace the bulb.

[@ZzzyaxTheCuber]

Iirc they're still on AA and never moved to 18650 format like other torches

[@iasad12]

oh, The Ol' Mate Senny, you shall be remembered in good words!

[@thelonesculler]

Ah I see you are also a man of culture

[@sukuren]

gonna miss those good ol' hur durr 6 hundos mate

[@williamguisan832]

They are still arround, under new managment, producing the same headphones in the same factory with the same team

[@pugnate666]

1:00 So ... a cochlear implant is a string of electrodes implanted into your cochlea that is controlled via a soundprocessor (in simple terms microphone and microcontroller) that are located behind the persons outer ear. Signals are transfered through the skin via induction, so there is no wire coming out of the persons head. The electrodes therefore bypass the natural hearing mechanism up to the cochlea, meaning nothing has to be removed and a hybrid, using residual natural hearing and the implant, is possible. Although residual natural hearing is further reduced, simply because there now is a solid object in the cochlea (the string of electrodes).

[@lootmaster1337]

sad when a company that makes products that survive the fall of my roof and my less than perfect handling of them for 8 years goes under yet bad companies that make 1 year products make billions :(

[@williamguisan832]

they are not going under

[@jimshaly1]

I'm rocking HD 6XX, freakin' love them

[@Fabled.-]

Same! I think the xx brand will survive though! It is done through drop (as you know) so maybe that deal will stay in place and the xx series can live on!

[@metalvideos1961]

@Blake Belladonna ofc you Will. Enough in stock

[@colinstock325]

I’ve just picked this up. The audiophile headphone market is saturated with contenders from both Beyerdynamic and Grado. Sennheiser are still there but the audiophile is willing to spend ludicrous amounts of money for the best sound. For example the Focal Utopia headphones retail at £3699 in the U.K.

[@weibrot6683]

nah, Grado and Beyers suck, and i personally didn't really enjoy the Utopia that much, for 4k€ i expected a larger soundsteage, tuning was very good tho

[@vivekgarg4816]

Me looking at my 6 yr old sennie earphone you came from a legendary company, why they good things don't last longer

[@de2israel]

Same bro my 6 year old hd8 djs 😢still going strong

[@thetassieboys]

Listening to this in Hospital on my HD598se and just had to get my first set of ebay pad replacements. $13 to keep them going and they have been dropped more than I'd like to admit haha

[@anath97]

ive had my hd598 for 8 years now. the quality of these things are so impressive.

[@ronochow]

Darn, I have a pair of HD579 I love. A lot of their products are also pricier, and there didn't seem to be the fresh product that makes people want the new one more. I think a product that lasts is fine, maybe if they had special and limited edition/colorways, people might flock to it more. It's so unfortunate, definitely one of the brands I had a good impression of.

[@tomboss9940]

This Swiss company sells probably the best hearing aids within a price range of 3-8 K. How on earth does Linus think they will damage the brand or worsen the products? More likely are some enhanced pricepoints. They are absolute specialists in microphones and headphone technology.

[@st0ox]

It's still sad, but you are right. I was relieved that a Swiss company with this background bought Sennheiser and not Sony or Something (Sony has good headphones, but they don't last 25 years).

[@RobinTheBot]

Because international megacorps are a beast with many heads.

[@serene-illusion]

I assume marketing would be an issue here. The likes of Razer, Logitech make pretty crappy-sometimes-good headphones but their upper advantage is that they're marketing and brand recognition is top-tier. Sonova could probably make good headphones, but whether their marketing tactics can compete in the general consumer space is another question. Presumably they're going for the high quality super expensive approach, so that might help a bit with brand appeal. No clue if they decide to continue what Senheiser did with their general consumer headphone lineup

[@AlexxxxxSaysHi]

@@serene-illusion I mean, sennheiser is pretty well known for spending barely anything on advertising so I'm not sure what your point here is?

[@G-flo]

Their product line from massdrop are still my favorites til this day and will be used religiously for years down the line.

[@barcafanboi01]

And I just got my second pair for Sennys 😔 started with the momentum on ears which I kept for like 8 years (still working btw) and just got my hd58x

[@mdo]

I still have in-ear and over-ear Sennheizers, They're both about 6 years old and still working like on day one. Love the sound, especially the in-ear ones.

[@mz1929]

@Linus, if you're curious, I'm a Licensed Hearing Care Provider, and I can explain exactly why this happened. Sonova is the largest hearing aid manufacturer. Phonak/Unitron etc. They are basically the Apple of hearing aids, and are trying to buy up and monopolize hearing market. Their competitors like GN Resound and WS Audiology have also bought Jabra and Siemens, Steel Series Etc. The bottom line is they are/were preparing for the last 2 years for the Direct to consumers Hearing Aid Law changes that were/are coming October 2022. Sennheiser and Jabra wireless earbuds/amplifiers are the direct to consumers devices available now. Jabra is sold at Costco hearing centers. Basically this is the Readers Eye Glasses boom that became available in stores years ago with out a prescription needed. BOSE tried to do this first and were the first FDA approved Direct to consumers "Hearing aid" (not amplifier, there is a big/legal difference) And BOSE already failed, after 1 year and shut down this whole new division that spent millions $. And now there are many angry customers with BOSE who bought in early, trying to save a buck. The Hearing Aid industry is HUGELY monopolized. There is only 6 real hearing aid manufacturers in the whole world. Any other "devices" is still made by them with a different name on it. And marketing BS. The biggest player that could completely disrupt and really shake things up is if Apple takes the Air Pods Pro more seriously. As they already added hearing amplifier settings to them awhile back. Apple has very real, very scary, Very powerful disruption and economic crashing power in this field. Samsung as far as I know doesn't care to get into this field yet.

[@tinaandro1178]

Welp..I have their headphones in a shopping list and they weren't a priority until now i guess :c .I saw a lot of KZbin videos where musicians use them and it peaked my interest.Sad to see what happened to them.

[@grafando]

Lots of musicians also use beats so I think that doesn't mean much

[@tinaandro1178]

@@grafando For me it just means that the people that I watch on KZbin use this Brand and they seem happy with it.This and the high rating of the customers makes me want to buy them

[@lightningdev1]

@@grafando Beats? Does that piece of garbage still exist? Also, no they don't.

[@quadroshfu2328]

@@grafando musicians? Sure, I am also one of these “musicians”, never touched an instrument in my life but I'm good in listening to music.

[@MrMighty147]

I still use my Sennheiser Headphones that I got 9 years ago.

[@JaxDobba]

What are they?

[@znub206]

@@JaxDobba sennheiser candice

[@JaxDobba]

@@znub206 Kandis what👀👀

[@Chipchap-xu6pk]

They're only just run in.

[@kohi6534]

@@JaxDobba shut up.

[@tiagobelo4965]

The thing with quality audio equipment is that you only buy them once, defects are rare, and regular headphones don't go out of date, so repeat business is a common issue unless you have someone collecting gear, or working their way up the product chain

[@musingsbymarco5001]

I have 2 sennheiser headphones, gave 1 pair away and I've had them forever. They're just the best. I would laugh at people wasting their money on things like beats that sucked and would break in a few months. Now no one will have even have the option of an alternative to buying crappy headphones. That is sad. Hopefully mine last me the rest of my life. RIP Sennheiser, you had integrity and you suffered the price for it. Never forget.

[@JM-pm3ob]

It’s not like Sennheiser never made any crap either

[@dcgerard]

Well this took the wind out of my sails. Glad I just picked up another pair of HD-280 pros like less than a year ago. What an iconic pair of cans. Seems like every pod caster out there uses these headphones.

[@adebrophy1942]

That’s a pro product. Sennheiser still makes those and still will!

[@KatzOhki]

Yeah the HD280 pro is legendary

[@Anti3D-0]

"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[@kdiffin]

They died a hrro

[@MrTeathyme]

@@kdiffin hmmm if you look at their mainstream audio section like the momentum iems and stuff, they were starting to trend towards being beats for people who dont want beats. like yes the hd600 is an amazing pair of cans for the price point, but lets not pretend sennheiser was nothing but good built to last headphones

[@junechevalier]

They didn't become the villain tho, they just died

[@Kevinjimtheone]

We lost AKG, and I can see Sennheiser going down the same road. I wish a behemoth like Apple would spend a fraction of what they paid for freaking Beats, and bring great audio quality to everyone. Damn...

[@firehog]

Hearing these news, wearing my headphones from Sennheiser made me internally scream NOOOO!!

[@mariodrv]

We are not loosing anything, Sonova is a freaking powerhouse.

[@tomgl6684]

No joke Sennheiser headphones are the only ones that I could wear and completely forget I had on if I wanted to really lose myself in something.* Was about to replace my pair as they're starting to wear out after about four years of near daily use. Very sad. * (Yes, I'm sure other brands are good too. I can only attest to the ones I've used myself.)

[@gio9789]

I wear my HD 450BT for 12hours, almost never had ear pain

[@mastroitek]

Why replace them, just replace the pads and they will be like new! I have a pair of 660s that I use 8-10h a day and after 3 years and 10k hours of use they are still in great shape, because 1y ago I changed the pads ;)

[@Aleph-Noll]

@Monkey Bob ill look it up

[@RusticRonnie]

Just do it in the next couple months the old stock will all be the same. But also things won't change that quickly we won't know the affect of this for a few years. Most of the staff moved over.

[@wetplant1748]

Dankpods' next video "Goodbye Sennheiser"

[@Chipchap-xu6pk]

I've got the same HD600s. Had them about 15 years, and nothing sounds better. Tried and returned Audeze LCD-X because everyone raves about them. They were claustrophobic as hell. And the best bit is that with HD600, everyone gets to hear how good they are.

[@Nerdhaunt]

Damn HD 4.50 ANC BTs are sooo underrated

[@SirNoobWulf]

Bought one a month ago

[@shayan-gg]

Overrated*

[@gagz9k]

The closing words from Luke are cinematic stuff. Give me a Does Android Dream of Electric Sheep vibes.

[@adflaker]

Used plenty of Sennheiser mics (especially the e835 that I sing into every single Sunday morning), but only Beyerdynamic headphones (I've got 2 pairs of DT770's). I love audio companies like Sennheiser that have never compromised on quality. Sad that they're disappearing.

[@BlackPanthaa]

Really not happy 🥺

[@chrisdotdash5154]

This was definitely thought out by sennheiser. I think that they are in really, really good hands.

[@Sandesh98147]

I bought a senheisser earbuds 5 years ago. They started malfunctioning 1.5 years later, I emailed their support and they sent me new ones. Still have them. They're working perfectly fine. This is exactly why companies opt for planned obsolescence. I have not been in the market looking for earphones for last 5 years

[@RunTheTape]

With that said, finally pushed myself to order a pair of HD600.

[@TheChiefSmeg69]

Actually I’m pretty stoked for this - I wear hearing aids by a company called Phonak and they are also owned by Sonova - I may get my audio quality back for music!

[@RusticRonnie]

Probably not honestly, it'll just say Sennheiser now. But it'll be the same thing.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

@@RusticRonnie - Or not; This company might want certain tech that Sennheiser has developed in the past... Or they might still improve because of owning a bigger company.

[@Djoki1]

My very first pair of 'good' headphones were from Sennheiser (HD 201s i believe, bought in 2014). Since that day, i fell in love with the brand and their products because even their super cheap headphones were sometimes the best in class. I gave them to my friend because they didnt fit my needs anymore (needed an integrated mic). Somehow, the leather (or whatever the material is that covers the earcups) is pretty much brand new, and my friend has been using them everyday since i gave the headphones away. In comparison, my razer electra v2's earcups had gone to shit within 8 months and 6 months after that the cable pretty much broke so i had to buy new headphones. I cant say that im devastated to hear this but saying this is an understatement at the same time. Rest in someone's hearing implant, Sennheiser headphones, may you be remembered eternally.

[@gdfish3532]

literally wearing the headphones in the thumbnail right now and they're the best headphones I've ever had.

[@samt2835]

which are they

[@gdfish3532]

@@samt2835 I actually got them as a gift so I'm not sure of the model number, they look identical though.

[@madduckuk]

@@samt2835 There are a few that look similar, but I am going to say the ones in the thumbnail are the HD 4.40BT

[@Angelo-vb6dg]

Man, it's sad when quality products go away. At least there still is Beyerdynamic

[@jonas440]

Tbh I preefere beyerdinamic anyways

[@fabulo19]

I wish I liked beyers

[@Angelo-vb6dg]

@@fabulo19 you can't deny the quality but soundwise I do agree it takes time getting used to a beyer

[@fabulo19]

@@Angelo-vb6dg I tried but just couldn't due to the sibilance (dt770pro 250ohm). Felt so sad returning them because the rest of the headphone was amazing value.

[@Angelo-vb6dg]

@@fabulo19 were you using them with a headphone amp or interface that delivered enought for the 250 ohm requirement?

[@imblackmagic1209]

i bought a bluetooth set from sennheiser, i don't see myself changing them any time soon, construction quality is very good, battery lasts ages, and i can even plug them with a cable in case it runs out in the middle of something important they probably weren't making much money, because they don't have that much return customers, you buy one and you're set, unless you bought something on the low end of the product spectrum, when you buy a mid to high end product, you're set!

[@Lego9231]

just got my HD 58x Jubilee, and they are the best headphones i have ever owned, RIP

[@qwertmom]

Oh boy that’s just the beginning

[@anonymone453]

Idk, re: sennheiser's reputation most audio professionals know them for their mics. A drop in the quality of their branded headphones won't make studios reconsider buying Sennheiser's mics

[@thefrankenator]

agreed, the headphones are a side project, Senny will always be a microphone brand in my eyes

[@kaneki1056]

the headphones are for normal consumers and selling the headphones division has no effect on studio's but the normal consumers like most of us are affected by it cause the quality of these headphones is just superior compared to most alternatives for the price

[@anonymone453]

@@kaneki1056 So buy their pro headphones or buy from someone else. Almost as a rule, any company that makes pro-grade mics makes pro-grade headphones. I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50s that are still going strong after a decade It will be confusing for hobbyists and consumers, but such is the nature of capitalism. Buyer beware

[@MikeyB00o]

I remember my first set of Sennheiser headphone back in the 90s. It was a lower end for 120loonies and red in color, but sounded great. Everyone else was going to the earbuds, but I rocked the 2inch over the ear phones with my new CD player

[@WraxTV]

Dang, my Senns died just a couple weeks ago and was saving up for a replacement. To be fair, those Senns lasted for, like, around a decade. So I can kind of believe they don't make a huge amount of money on them just because they last so long.

[@OrginalDravas]

What broke - they are very repairable.

[@WraxTV]

@@OrginalDravas Yeah, I'm keeping them around if I ever get to it. It's got a lot of parts that need attention but most immediate are the cups themselves and the cord - it got caught in something and became frayed. I'd like to repair it at some point but realistically it's going to sit in a pile of projects for ages that I'll get around to "some day."

[@impendio]

They’ll still have the professional audio products including the aviation headphones, right? But yeah, they just made them too good, you can’t sell a $400 headphone 25 years ago and hope you survive as a company…

[@joshentertainment2]

What are you on about the headphones are still good Fender still sells the same design from 60 70

[@rikhil4220]

@@joshentertainment2 they mean that they've sold it but aren't making any money from the product, eg apple selling an iPhone and still making money from music etc

[@Navhkrin]

They really needed to modernize better. None of the 150$ tier headphones have wireless for example. Yes it hurts audio experience but I personally would have paid for them, I own Razer Blackshark V2 Pro and i'm sure Sennheiser could have done a product in similar price range so much better, yet they did not. They stuck to their ancient design and give their fans to incentive to upgrade. And since their headphones are ridiculously durable they just didn't make enough money I guess. This is another example of legendary engineering but bad business management. You can't just have one of these things to survive, you need both to some degree.

[@FoolOfATuque]

@@rikhil4220 yes, it’s the whole service mentality we are heading towards. Even cars are heading in this direction. BMW wants to build every car with exactly the same equipment, but you want heated seats? Subscription. You want premium sound? Subscription. I also think all of these other headphone manufacturers have ate into their market share. Everyone and their Mom makes headphones now

[@rikhil4220]

@@FoolOfATuque the heated seats subscription baffled me. I've got a year old bimmer that offers subscriptions for a data plan to use Alexa and other internet capabilities but that's where it stops