One Of The Most Powerful 5L Mini Gaming PCs You Can Build Right Now!

[@bighousemusic628]

Ill just sit back and enjoy the show im poor

[@txtungz2704]

We are 😹😹😹

[@iN00BiXD]

Makes 3 of us

[@50H3i1]

That makes 5 of us

[@budhadevbiswas]

6 of us

[@KicstarV]

US

[@Penguingaming69]

This thing looks sick. I wanna build something "console-sized" one day.

[@narsakucanada154]

A few years ago I repented to God then begged for help, "I was until then an Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I held him was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of Love every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever. I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed", one was seeing a bright orb of light pass across my face in the dark, hours before a major surgery the second I gave up in my heart. Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they Love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you Love them. Always have hope, I believe that prayer, following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming humble, merciful, welcoming, giving, gentle, respectful, compassionate, patient, kind and forgiving, To All.

[@damianramirez9788]

Anyone really wants a console-thing these days than just common PC offerings...

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

with a power brick it can be reduce quite significantly

[@Voidsworn]

i noticed that the case has perforations for air flow below the GPU. I would assume you would want to put some feet on that side to elevate the case slightly to allow that air flow unless you just lay the system on its back instead.

[@murdock94]

I have a different version, but it's basically like this case. And it's not meant to be sat like the way ETA has it.

[@florianoprescu2171]

@@murdock94 horizontally

[@chasependergrass6362]

​@@murdock94 it's meant to be vertical like ETA has it. It comes with legs to provide airflow underneath the GPU

[@murdock94]

@@chasependergrass6362 I'm not seeing that listed on any of the listings on Aliexpress. Edit: Never mind. Found a listing with it.

[@heirtothethrone000]

You could but they make another version that's the same size except it has feet and a handle.

[@Menalix]

about 150 watt, that's so insane, perfect for my boat, definitely buying this.

[@warnacokelat]

It's a great case if you want to go small without a riser cable. It eliminates one of the most common headache in sandwich style cases.

[@richardfarmer6570]

This is a cool little build. I wish I had a use case for something like this because I would love to build one.

[@punkfunk212]

you could build to gift, to sell, or for me

[@NicMG]

Would like to see how Star Citizen runs on this, of course I know it's in Alpha and buggy as hell, but it would be good to see if it will at least run.

[@Micromation]

Uhhh... ping me in January when the case arrives. But it won't be ideal because my build will feature 3950X (I have 7700X also waitng for transplant since I've upgraded my workstation to 7950X3D but I don't have AM5 ITX motherboard to go along with it...) - I don't think results will be representative, 3950X gaming performance is... it leaves much to be desired.

[@TheVillainOfTheYear]

4060 just doesn't have the memory bandwidth for 1080p due to that bus width. Even though it could theoretically run well at 1440p, it just chokes hard in some games at 1440p because of that artificial limitation. I bed you'd have a huge performance gain with 1080.

[@samuelec]

Totally agree but I saw many comments, probably bots or people paid to comment, on previous videos requesting it.

[@LagiohX3]

its the best of what sff has to offer

[@samm928]

So the PCI4 bus I 8 lanes instead of 16 lanes .. also 128bit wide memory bandwith instead of 192bit

[@heirtothethrone000]

He use this same card on the AR900i which is the Intel one and ran thses games in 1440P ultra

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

DLSS upscaling helps out greatly here and makes 1440p viable. I have a 4060 laptop (Legion 14” slim) with a 2880x1800 screen and the 4060 has no problem pumping out 60+ FPS in every game I throw at it, including heavy titles such as Cyberpunk, and remains relatively cool, so that the laptop runs quietly. DLSS 3.0 has been refined over time to the point where I don’t notice any artefacts during gameplay.

[@thedanyesful]

Thanks for testing at 1440p. It's crazy how many 'serious' reviewers are still testing at 1080p in 2024.

[@pacocarrion7869]

wow...wow...so powerfull, great balance between price/performance/watts...amazing

[@jerryknudsen7898]

best thing about that minisforum bd770, not only is it a deal as far as price to performance, but it really holds up against it's desktop big brother option. My GF got the BD770i and I have a mini itx rig with a Ryzen 7 7700x. we ran benchmarks beside each other back to back both cpuz and geekbench 6. The minisforum loses in performance by about 80 points on geekbench 6, which is literally nothing. It's a killer deal.

[@raze0ver]

I love to see horizonally mounted GPU in SFF pcs that will just give us more space for beefier CPU coolers and therefore more powerful CPUs

[@jccnguyen]

This is exactly the review that I was looking for, thank you, great work!

[@Tra3anT]

Really cool build, thumbs up. What is this live wallpaper from 6:31 ??? those moving neon strips are awesome

[@therealAkito]

@ 9:47 the text is wrong for the test game lol

[@Kingeseryt8105]

Would love to see a video about you comparing device from around $50 used items are allowed and seeing which device will give you the ultimate emulation performance,all i want is for you to test a phone , laptop,media box,mini pc , office pc and those usb devices and seeing which will give you the best emulation for your budget all items must be $50 or below

[@emm8485]

Cool! Super tiny but might!!

[@0x0404]

That ryzen 7 is more powerful than I thought. No wonder all the handhelds using it are pretty good.

[@cakeisalie]

this beats Devyn's build since it's smaller and uses a more standard Flex PSU

[@placidelin]

would be awesome if you can do a build step by step guide for the pc case A24-V5, got it since a week still haven't got the time to figure how to add my components

[@hsstarboy8137]

thankyou for all your videos you done a great job

[@BlarinDragon]

pretty cool and interesting build, however it hurts to see that gpu get basically 0 room for cooling

[@Karti200]

motherboard is nice, but the price is making me more into getting an ERYING one with 12th or 13th gen intel soldered onto it :/ even with mITX format, you get full DIMM and not SODIMM slots and more IO ports

[@Neopulse00]

Man, I hope the 790i can fit into that also

[@jameswatson6608]

Great content as always! Keep it coming!

[@Dragonballfan7]

bro I built this pc and it is AMAZING it runs all my games smoothly I was surprised 😊

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

hm, happy playing

[@justinpatterson5291]

That stock cpu cooler looks better quality than the one built into my old RTX 2060.

[@MyggFaen]

i want to build mini pc with the same spec only the 7745HX on a 4x4 motherbord to build smaler case becose i want to give myself chalenge to build the smalest case posible with thos spec iside

[@Fezzy976]

Starfield title card still says Forza lol :P Cool build, seems that laptop CPU is struggling with only 5200MT/s RAM.

[@heirtothethrone000]

Even full size cards can struggle with Starfield

[@Micromation]

I really wish this case had some workable front I/O. I will try to modify one once I complete my build and see where I can actually squeeze it in but I want at least 2x USB-A and 1x USB-C.

[@unforgivenk07]

very nice build!Do you know if it's possible a build like this with steam os? I would like to build a pc like this like a console connected to my TV. Bye!

[@danmar007]

Why does everyone claim that the min-PC they're about to review or build is one of the most powerful? How many of those one-of-the-most-powerful mini PCs are there?

[@loganwhite6173]

this is so tempting to recreate

[@heirtothethrone000]

I'd love to see a comparison with the BD790i and the AR900i. I love the 4xM.2 on the AR900i and I've been looking at this case for a while now but it could use a few IO ports in the front because the board doesn't offer a lot.

[@brandondegantevillasante538]

Thank you for the video. I'll be buying a few of these boards for myself and family, thanks again. \

[@pudgegranddaddy]

While I like the concept, I just can't justify the overall price. At approx. $1100-$1200 for the whole build and to only be a 1080p w/ some 1440p gaming machine, I'd prefer a standard mini-itx build with a zen-3 5800x3D or 5900x, 32 GB DDR-4 3600Mhz RAM, a SFF 600 Watt PSU and an AMD Radeon 6700xt/6750xt for similar or cheaper price and get better performance than this rig.

[@jondasek]

5800x3d + mb+ ram isn't even cheaper than 7600 + mb + ram... 7600 is better in every aspect, and offers future upgradability, too. Otherwise I agree.

[@pudgegranddaddy]

@@jondasek I would slightly disagree. While I will concede the power draw differences, the extra 4GB of memory along with the memory interface difference 192-bit for 6700xt 128-bit for 7600, the 6700xt has much longer legs than the 7600 does. Especially with the growth of memory usage for 1440p/4k games.

[@jondasek]

@@pudgegranddaddy I'm talking about the CPUs, R7 5800X3D vs R5 7600

[@pudgegranddaddy]

@@jondasek Gotcha. I only say 5800x3d so you don't have to pay more for an X670 B650 platform or DDR5 RAM.

[@Summit900]

@@jondasek The 7600 isn't better in every aspect. The 5800x3d beats the 7600x in almost every gaming single benchmark, and they are close in work applications with the 7600x coming out ahead in almost every test. That being said. If you were to be building a new pc with all new parts, the 7600 is the way to go. Simply because the AM4 is last gen and you can upgrade to a 7800x3d with 7600.

[@MoxV2]

What is that spider microphone stand called at 0:11 min it looks so cool, also what microphone would it be compatible with

[@Griefhand]

Gravastar supernova. It's just a plastic overpriced shitty bluetooth speaker. You see it a lot rn because youtubers get paid to shill their products

[@nathanpurss4582]

I'd like so see how this would go with the A750 Sparkle. If you can find a case that's just right that is

[@HalfOgre0520]

For the record, this board will take 48GB DDR5-5600MHz chips for a total of 96GB.

[@greenprotag]

Love this chassis. I may eventually spring for one to hang onto. This build looks nice and clean. I am curious how this CPU compares to it's other 6 and 8 core desktop variants like the 7600.

[@axescar]

I think mitx AM5 board with 7800x3d CPU is more powerful if we are about gaming.

[@greenprotag]

@@axescar Well naturally, but I probably would not try to cool a 7800X3D in this size chassis... MAYBE a downclocked 7700 or a stock 7600. ETA provided the alternative of a regular desktop CPU and I was wondering how big the performance gap is.

[@axescar]

@@greenprotag I knew that someone will mention cooling :) But 7800x3d is very efficient and with the same wattage that have this mobile CPU, x3d will beat it. Caption of this video is something about "one of the most powerful..". And with am5 socket you will receive full size DDR5 dimms with slightly good timings and freq. So I think mitx am5 replacement is very good for such builds

[@greenprotag]

@@axescar Listed wattage is kinda BS from AMD and Intel. Usually the listed wattage is not "max" but rather with a "nominal load" I suspect the X3D part will be hotter than the 7745HX

[@greenprotag]

That and you have to take into account that this 7745XH has a custom cooling solution with a very dense low profile heatsink that might be hard to match. It even had exhaust out the rear IO.

[@fl1ntlock1]

I'm happy you got a hand model because you got some gorilla mitts 😆

[@pdiscool]

How much does this build cost?

[@alucard0712]

Man, I have 12600K, 32GB RAM and 3070 in my 5.0 liter Skyreach 4 mini for a long time. I'm sure I can put some 4070ti here. I requires GPU under 210mm.

[@Chronos867]

How does it perform? What's the average temp during video editing and gaming ?

[@deepakmorar7747]

How much did it all cost to build.. I got £500 to bulid or buy a mini pc to play aaa games and for emulation as well. Can u pls help me whats best way to get one pls?

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

ryzen 5600x and intel a380 maybe fit the budget

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

poundsterling is the most expensive here so the budget is like 800$ which should suffice

[@russell2496]

Great video and build - QUESTION - What app do you use to show the FPS and temps overlay?

[@tylerraem]

MSI Afterburner but technically RivaTuner (which is in the Afterburner setup) Great software for monitoring!

[@ltfcouture4393]

It makes me wonder if its possible to use a PlayStation 2 fat shell as a custom case with this setup 🤔

[@wanzai567]

How is the reliability and noise of that PSU? Thinking about getting it for a similar build (except the mobo)

[@DJgregBrown]

Would love to know how the onboard iGPU is at gaming.

[@everythingisokmjmklfrth]

$1000 not bad at all

[@capcomshero7646]

So the built in cooler looks the same as the ar900i minusforum has, would you be able to tell me the height of the heatsink with the fan on it ? Always a great video

[@Knight7I]

Can u make a video playing assetto corsa no hesi mod on rog ally?

[@keerthan7558]

Would the smallest itx build just be a laptop docked to a monitor 🤔 ?

[@AliYassinToma]

whats the point of this motherboard if its the same size of an itx board?

[@Akakakakak353]

Total cost??

[@112Famine]

Is the cpu soldered into the motherboard socket?

[@spuwho]

Yes. It uses a CPU designed for laptops.

[@112Famine]

@@spuwho would be better off buying a refurbished itx off ebay ... why is he pushing this garbage?

[@spuwho]

@@112Famine Too each his own I guess. There is always a niche to explore.

[@marcelm.2170]

Very nice system.

[@vasileiospapadimitriou3005]

Whats the equivalent Desktop competitor of this CPU? I see that the performance is solid and combined with a mini ITX board it makes this a very appealing option. If I was to opt for a R5 7600 with a mini itx board I would be looking for sure around 350£. I've seen that the cinebench scores are around the same performance as the 7800X3d even beating this actually on single core performance score.

[@samm928]

What would be the height of the Radiator ? Minisforum spec. are kinda sketchy on the BD790i .. Any word when the 7945hx3d is supposed to be release ? I thought it was at the end of January, anyway China shots down between Feb.8 and Feb.14 so there will be no shipping.

[@heirtothethrone000]

I read the BD790i starts shipping the 25th of this month so we might be seeing some builds very soon.

[@samm928]

@heirtothethrone000 Yeah, that's right, so I ordered mine yesterday and got it for $509 after an additional $10 coupon. It is possible will go up to $649 in price at the end of February. I'm not seeing huge differences between 7945HX and HX3D other than the L3 cache, which not all games take advantage of. CRUCIAL 64GB ram and a 2Tb nvme is another $500 .. and $609 for an Asus 4070 Super GPU .. $100 for the ZS-A1S aluminum case and $40 flex PSU .. Total = $1800

[@samm928]

@heirtothethrone000 Chinese Christmas Holiday is Feb.8 - Feb14 .. nobody goes to work that week.

[@jirism8650]

@@samm928 what case is that? Can u link it on some eshop please? Thx

[@mvargasmoran]

what about fighting games?

[@chris.davidoff]

How well do you think this would survive if shipped in a box?

[@MrChow]

Hey ETA are you able to take off the cooler and repaste it? I'm curious to see if they did a good job on it. The high temps on this with a bigger heat sink and fan than laptop with the same CPU and the same temps.

[@SlytherinReviews]

Is there another version that we could buy that is kinda like the BD770i from Minisforum

[@MichaelSkinner-e9j]

What’s the average power and FPS when both CPU and GPU are undervolted?

[@mdsadik1661]

Awesome 😎😊

[@xtuviss434]

red magic 9 ..launched

[@JosephFrietze]

So ~$1000 for 1080p gaming? I think UI would build off of a last gen AsRock, or just go for a current gen console. Neat though.

[@heirtothethrone000]

Consoles are upscaled 1080p

[@lkentwell249]

AU$188 for the case alone? Thats a bit over the top.

[@timsonsuperman]

Nice nails buddy 😮

[@waderyun.war00034]

Rtx a2000 would fit nicely. With no power connector. It will probably run better than what 4060 because of the power draw on the 4060 with the power supply you chose.

[@leobarnet3662]

anyone know the power draw as thinking of getting one for narrowboat

[@lkentwell249]

Curious. If you ran a igpu and didn't install the discreet GPU do you think you could squeeze 2 3.5" HDS. in that space?

[@L319HV]

I love my rx6400 low profile such a good card for single slot and I just got the 4060 low profile aswell and th card is a absolute beast for its size too, really loving the performance.

[@Chris.Brisson]

I tend to boycott false advertisers just to discourage such behavior. 5:00

[@djmegax13]

emulation! pls

[@mikeywilson9804]

I am trying to work towards building a PC for maby 100$

[@bighomieZO]

To build a good small to mid size PC your need at least $500. You can build a larger size PC with used components for a bit cheaper. But it's going to be very hard to get in that $100 price range and will most likely be a 1080p system. Your best bet is to get a used Xbox series s for $200 and have a computer or tablet for any PC needs outside of gaming or spend a bit more for a mini PC or one of the cheaper handhelds like the ally or steam deck.

[@Laughing_Individual]

Lmao.

[@vinyfiny]

If you don't need it for gaming or anything intensive just get a used Dell Optiplex or Lenovo Tiny. Can get a full system ready to go (4th Gen Intel parts) for under $100.

[@mikeywilson9804]

There are deals on the HP compact an then also watch lines video on a 70$ pc there are ways

[@And-vx6ry]

With 13900hx or 13980hx ?

[@dcayt4491]

Me too..

[@Funsiz3dBlacksmith]

Check out the velka 5 or 7

[@levyroth]

Console killer

[@drakomus7409]

$400? i'll just get a itx $120 mobo and $120cpu

[@demonhogo]

In what world is a 4060 ‘powerful’

[@goldy_on_pc930]

@@demonhogo for something that small it is

[@djashjones]

Pi55 poor port selection as usual.

[@rommeo27]

the new trend build in cpu so that u cant uprade in a few years and have to pay more money for new board , no thx

[@mightyignorance433]

ULTRAPOWERFUL GAMING PC 4060...

[@Laughing_Individual]

Yes. It's plenty powerful for the average person. Or you could just get a better job if you want high end. Still a waste of money in terms of returns unless you're a content creator or something.

[@mythydamashii9978]

It's the best thing for low power consumption and it's pretty powerful at 1080p

[@mythydamashii9978]

@@Laughing_Individual I'm waiting for the price to drop lower than $280 then I want to snatch it

[@artrimiks]

do not use this power supply it’s trash!!!

[@oldbrokenhands]

This keeps up and by 2050 we'll be putting together our gaming rigs with a jeweler's eye and tweezers.

[@Adulto357]

Funny comment, but it's called a jewelers loupe

[@YugoRr]

I expect to at least improvement of metals/heat removal so it can be 1/5 the size

[@7xyn]

no it will be in the cloud in 2050

[@YugoRr]

@@7xyn and after that we just use spice

[@JBrinx18]

To be clear, no graphics cards (at least other than in China) are PCIe Gen 5. Your description would suggest otherwise

[@heirtothethrone000]

All of these MinisForum mobos w/CPU have PCIE Gen 5 GPU slots and Gen 5 M.2 but the AR900i has 4xM.2 Gen 4 and the BD770i/ BD790i have two.

[@ProfessorGears_LT]

First :)

[@Lionheart1188]

A low profile RTX 4070 would be dope and I reckon it can be done, it still only requires 1 8 pin power connector, it's power efficient maxing out at 200W with RTX 3080 levels of performance, and don't forget undervolting, I hope gigabyte make one, temps should be perfectly manageable.

[@Micromation]

I don't think you realise how big of a cooler you would need for that 200W and precisely why it will not happen. For reference, people tried transplanting cooler from 1 fan 4060 to 4060Ti and it just wasn't enough without severe TDP limit which made performance drop off to the point of it not being worth the hassle. Low profile? Forget about that.

[@MineJulRBX]

Good luck with that. I'm sure you could with the 4060 TI and some power limiting/undervolting. But the 4070 gets too hot for a cooler that small. The 4070 runs often about 5 degrees hotter and sometimes even hotter compared to the 3060 TI, both which are rated at 200W TDP, although 4070 more commonly uses slightly below 200W than the 3060 TI does. The MSI Aero ITX of the 3060 TI is really small, but it's a pain and loud to use if it's not inside a big system with lots of airflow, and that's with about 5 degrees or more cooler than the 4070. (not accounting for the G6X vram heat). While these cards are very power efficient and powerful, they generate a lot more heat in exchange which needs to be cooled. Good example of TDP being a bad metric for both power draw and heat exchange.

[@OC.TINYYY]

Velka 5 V3 is right up your ally. 4070 full size fits just fine.

[@candyred3v]

Power mod a4000 ada sff😅😅

[@maximus3294]

@@Micromation I mean, a power limited 4060 ti or 4070 are still better than a 4060 😉

[@pjladyfox]

It is simply amazing that we're seeing builds like this now and companies targeting the SFF space like this. Sure we've had them before but nothing quite like this I mean this one went together like a lego set and so clean on the inside to boot! Personally I"m hoping for a setup like this but using the AMD 8000 G-series CPU's coming in Jan 2024 and see what they bring to the table. Would be great to see this tiny powerhouse running a *nix variant for sure! And could I suggest maybe seeing how Mechwarrior 5 or Mechwarrior Online runs in this monster? With Mechwarrior Clans in the pipeline Mechwarrior looks to be coming back big and would be neat to see here :) Great video!

[@Blahblah-m8l]

I see lots of different devices on this channel I'd love to see a small form factor/ performance/price comparison between some of these things.

[@davidgomez5116]

Same at the end of a year near the holidays he does a best of mini pc but that doesn't include the sff builds he does.

[@OldKingMaple]

What was the total price? Did you say in the video?

[@rhodrik.]

Will a 7900gre fit this build?

[@markusjohansson4949]

It seems like the case is not in stock. Any alternatives?

[@heirtothethrone000]

This case is everywhere on Aliexpress they even have one with feet and a handle.

[@markusjohansson4949]

@@heirtothethrone000 Wow

[@hackeroo]

hope to see a comparison vid vs I guess a 7700x or 7600x with the same specs altogether and compare how much would it cost to do it compared to the b770i

[@vinyfiny]

He doesn't do comparison vids🙃.

[@Summit900]

He doesn't direct compare vids. Even if he did, it wouldn't be comparable anyways. Those cpu's are desktop variants and the one he is using here is a mobile variant. Mobile variants have many restrictions placed on them to be able to run off of a battery and a very low wattage psu. Its like comparing Apples to Milk.

[@hackeroo]

​@@Summit900 I understand but the product is being sold as a motherboard + cpu thus making a desktop machine is the main reason for it's existence. Also some games don't rely too much on cpu power so I'm curious on what degree it's different from 7600/7700 that could warrant it's existence and price point. I haven't found anyone from Reddit yet on comparing this to any other and ETA seems to be the only one covering this at the moment.

[@breadkrum6860]

@@hackerooagreed. Other guy is bonkers saying that a comparison wouldn’t make sense. It would actually be an amazing comparison to see how laptop CPUs in a desktop form factor compete with their desktop counterparts.

[@patrickcadette]

😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@R.EARNHARDTT]

Build cost ?

[@cheetahkid]

I was looking for but you got there first, I haven't been started yet. Small but not smaller than mine though, lol. I like your idea. I have to start to clear my house, I got 40 computers here, some old, 2003 ish and looking at updating it. I have an idea, you can fit that in a well known case in those time, 2000 ish? Gotta have some fun though.

[@SavingPrivateBob]

Hey, it's honestly the future of PCs. Keep promoting them.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

its very small already

[@SonyJimable]

Minisforum HX100G is on the way...