One Take: Moskva

[@yesmadx]

Wish there was a Nevsky video, would love to see your take on this ship

[@danny_d_bongo]

Same, i hate the nevsky. Dont know if im to dumb for her or she isnt that good/boring.

[@adrianmarinica3386]

@@danny_d_bongo Nevsky ist good ..play it wie eine Zao

[@volknetai.3690]

She is more of heavy cruiser than light one. Slow ruddershift, not good maneuverbility yet having a heavy cruiser trait. Hard hitting AP shell with good penetration, a little low DPM as it has 4 double gun turrets and not quite impressive reload ( yet only a heavy cruiser with faster reload is des moines​ class )​

[@destawaits]

Nevsky is a pretty braindead ship. Extremely good at kiting and has potent fire chance and good AP pen, but I had to learn to forgo IFHE before I got good results

[@SoldierOfFate]

Nevsky is basically a Smolensk with the smoke exchanged for radar instead.

[@unclelou8636]

Moskva is one of those ships I was never able to figure out. Even though it's a special ship now, it is just a port queen for me.

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Just a shipping hazard

[@beardumaw24]

If you can half way play the game it's an excellent ship ! Lol

[@SoldierOfFate]

It is EXTREMELY powerful once it gets to the lategame and most, if not all of the BBs are either dead or barely alive. To survive the early game, you have to play defensively and support your own BBs.

[@player1sniper_gt]

Its me realizing that I grinded my way through the Russian CL/ CA line to get this beautiful ship. Literally got hit 2 1/2 hours before the servers went down and removed it from the tech tree.

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Literally got hit, 😆

[@Coredogx22]

Actually just picked this ship up as my first coal ship. Been kind of struggling figuring out the play style as I have not played any Russian ships before. I always get HE spammed to death. I think I just need to be patient at the beginning like you did. Love to see this come out at the same time as me picking it up. Keep up the great content!

[@bravosierra2447]

Another good ‘how to Moskva’ vid is by flamu: ‘ Moskva- the methodical cruiser’

[@freetolook3727]

Think of it as a Russian Des Moines except a little tankier and harder hitting HE.

[@batrastardly4574]

This ship highlights ones' ability to aim and shot placement. In the early game I find it best to stay at the furthest range where I can make my shots. Mid to late game I choose when and where to move in based on potential HE sources, available cover, and what the team needs. So I guess the ship has morphed into a more support role for me. It's still very effective but in this role I have more wins and less high damage losses.

[@dr4k0nm47]

Loving this series so far, keep up the good content!

[@luke_3_113]

I like that you take some blind shots; I'm often surprised watching ytube videos that some good players (not me) don't take shots when they've just lost vision, but could still easily guess where the ship is...

[@dsilverleaf4668]

Shooting blind is difficult. Keep ur eye on engine exhast, it gives an idea of how much to lead your target.

[@钱振东-d2o]

There are other factors why good players sometimes don’t take the blind shots. But to increase the win rate, killing off targets are often the right choice. Blind shots are not hard and most players do it nowadays.

[@dsilverleaf4668]

@@钱振东-d2o your dead wrong about that.

[@TheGrouch91]

Also really depends on the type of ship you're playing and the position you're in. If you have plenty of targets to shoot and you're in something with a longer reload then a blind shot has of course a much bigger opportunity cost.

[@Glider5858]

Yeah. The way I see it is just because I can't see you doesn't mean you are not there.

[@naders7200]

1:01 you'll also notice that focus fire training doesn't give the +25% advertised bonus to priority sector any more this patch

[@AgentFrosty]

Bow-in, Moskva's ability to tank is still impressive. My record in her is 3.2mil potential so far, in the last clan battles season that was tier 10, so a recent game too, against the more modern ships prevalent in Clan Battles. :D

[@restarting_krnl]

If there is a smolensk/HE spammer focusing you, then it would be another story if u go bow-in

[@AgentFrosty]

@@restarting_krnl That's why you need situational and map awareness... Don't put yourself in a position to be farmed like that. Jesus, are people that stupid these days or do you just feel the need to be negative while stating the obvious?

[@piyapolphetmunee3879]

I somehow tanked 4.4 mil potential damage in the moskva

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Impressive?

[@Stephen__White]

I personally think you don't see many Moskva around is purely because even now nearly a year into the Future, Perto is still just flat out better. Moskva has worse pen and her shells his at worse angles, Petro has better armor, she has better concealment, a better turning circle, better AA, better AP alpha damage, really the only things Moskva beats Petro in is DPM and Radar duration, but she ties Nevsky for radar duration and Nevsky well out DPMs Moskva, it should also be noted that a Legend Mod Moskva has basically the dispersion of Nevsky. So basically if you want to play Moskva as a strong wall for the other team to have to break with a 12km radar, well Petro does that better. If you want to play Moskva as a DPM boat, Nevsky does that better. Moskva is kind of just stuck in the middle with no real identity.

[@Dcarp7]

I do have a soft spot for Moskva. She used to be a very strong ship back in the day. Sadly, she is greatly overshadowed by Stalingrad and Petropavlovsk.

[@EvoraGT430]

Not sure it's as bad as that. But HE spam/CVs do hurt.

[@SoldierOfFate]

She is still a good ship to use in a non-CV game. Even Stalingrad struggles ingame now if it has to contend with one.

[@christopherflux6254]

I’ve heard she’s been badly damaged in the real life war

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Used to be...as in used to exist

[@randalhuffman8827]

@@christopherflux6254 yea, sadly i think she went down. I was very sad when i heard. Unlike our version, the real one was a missile cruiser.

[@silasknie9326]

That second game was one of the best games I've seen in a while, very tactical and exiting!

[@chrisbonnett6783]

This was awesome. Real replays from real games. I'm subscribing to your channel. I'm absolutely convinced that many of the replays people post are staged actors. They load up on flags to score 4,000 free XP against so-called opponents mindlessly sailing broadside. It's like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters and thinking you're watching a competitive game.

[@pqfire0950]

I always wondered why stalin and moskva have 14km concealment when others like alaska or petro don't

[@sundreev]

Looks like they fired people who were designing the game at the beginning and who knew something about balance...

[@MistaCyber]

Haha I went full aa build on Moskva! Just gotta love the Airplane deletion with it

[@alphax4785]

Moskva 'makes' 90k more credits per game over a tech tree 10 thanks to the halved service cost and 45k / 135k if you take permaflages into account.

[@DocHolliday1851]

Rest in peace Moskva

[@perfectcell2061]

That napoli player absolutely bought the ship for 100 dollars hahaha he was clueless

[@konellin189]

well...its his money soo....

[@krios4141]

Remember when Moskva/Stalingrad was considerd borderline overpowerd? Those were the times

[@SoldierOfFate]

Stalingrad certainly was considering it had meteors for AP, but Moskva definitely was not since she was always a free kill if anything managed to get a shot at her sides.

[@shadowsaberXYZ]

14:50 PQ calling the fate of irl Moskva back in September 2021 lol

[@camesoul]

my favorite ship. because even if i do zero damage im really helpfull for my team my radar and hydro.

[@russcastella]

Neptune missile entered the chat 💬

[@Kramerthetroll]

GG mate and I do think you have one of the best vids out there. Cheers!

[@joedoe6444]

my question to everyone is, what current coal ships would you want first, and the same with the RB ships. i have enough of both to buy 2 of each but just can't make up my mind if i should do it, or wait till the end of the year when they announce what ships are going away. i really hated missing out on ships like the JB because i just used my coal for another boat just before they said it was going away.

[@kingofcastlechaos]

Yoshino and Pommern if I can only do 2 coal. RB- I got Seigfreid and Colbert because I wanted the challenge and something different. So far it has been very challenging.

[@kingofcastlechaos]

If you have enough for 2, then consider getting unique commanders and a ship. Or hold coal in reserve for the next JB situation. Commanders make a huge impact across many ships.

[@shadeofheresy]

RB - Ohio and Ohio. Get the Ohio, also try the Ohio.

[@riquelmeone]

@@kingofcastlechaos I agree, the commanders have such a unique impact whereas ships are just ships. If anything, I would even go for unique upgrades like extended radar which is really nice.

[@ronyar7900]

11:30 maybe to stop blowouts, do skill based mm, but instead of a full team of the same wr players, go for teams with pairs of players with the same wr

[@meyatetana2973]

So if they ever add in Ukrainians on shore will this ship sink to one missle also?

[@missk1697]

🤡

[@cyberwar5579]

Moskva has 20% credit and -50% service perk

[@jasonshen7600]

We need a nevsky vid, I struggle so much with that ship

[@batrastardly4574]

Most people I see struggle in the Nevsky are playing it too aggressive. For the most part you need to stay at max range where you can hit with those accurate guns, with reduced risk of being hit. The second big mistake I see is people using HE only. The AP on this ship is really good at ANY range and so I got rid of IFHE and learned to rely on AP more. The best pathway to getting stronger in the Nevsky, imho, is the T7 Shchors. In that ship you HAVE to develop aiming skills at long range or you will rarely have a good match. Nevsky also rewards good open water kiting skills. If you're not wearing off the letters on your "WASD" keys in this ship you're playing it wrong! I hope some of this helps.

[@SoldierOfFate]

You play Nevsky like a Smolensk with no smoke. AKA keep moving and WASD like crazy while staying aware of who has their guns on you.

[@antoniohagopian213]

Petropavlosk isn't more tanky when you are bow in/angled like you should. The bow is so huge that it eats cits, the extended belt is useless, it's too small. 30k volleys on bow in petros from montanas is a daily thing I see.

[@Mario-kf3ej]

daily ... I'm not saying that is impossible but nah 30k doesnt happen that often on Petro. But still Petro got better AA and sits way lower in water so it doesnt get dev striked every time it shows broadside (which Moskva is "good" at)

[@volknetai.3690]

Moskva has more HP, longer lasting radar, better accuracy, faster reload, bullsh*t HE and AP performance Petropavlovsk sit very low and hard to hit, superior AA defense, highly effective AP shell with improve autobounce​ angle, thicker overall armor

[@poopsie117]

Well Petros should be slightly angled, always moving back and forth to throw off the aim, and peaking in and out of cover. 30k salvos through the bow do happen but they're really not common if one plays their Petro correctly. The thing with WoWS is that battleship salvo RNG is a huge factor and often if you sit bow in any sort of skinny cruiser, even with an overmatchable bow, chances are is that you'll live through at least 1 or 2 salvos.

[@BubiBubison]

Antonio is dreaming. I have 400 Battles in the petro and i NEVER took 30k (thats more than half of her pool LOL) from the front.

[@antoniohagopian213]

@@BubiBubison if you claim you never saw it. Doesn't mean it never happened. Are you THAT clueless to what can happen in this game? You ain't the ONLY one on those servers.

[@soopahsoopah]

What happened to your angle indicator?

[@TheEnronExec]

Great narrating of Cruiser tactics for us newbs

[@angela09325angela]

WOWS should add new ability to Moskva , like special diving operation , that's what Moskva doing right now , and it work well.

[@DarthCody700]

The Russian tech tree is by far the most frictional, not only that they ever invested in actual shops, but also that they were able to crew and maintain them effectively

[@s1mplem4gic58]

I was just wondering if I should get this... thanks!

[@zlpatriot11]

I am close to my next steel ship and leaning toward Stalingrad hence I got Petro and Moskva and enjoy the playstyle of USSR cruisers. I have thought of getting Austin to change things up. Moskva is one of my favorites. Thoughts?

[@EvoraGT430]

I would get Stalingrad then, honestly.

[@zlpatriot11]

@@EvoraGT430 Thx man.

[@samuelmuller6075]

Watching this video reminded me of Bob Ross

[@joeyboi83]

A sink little B now… Hehe

[@SoldierOfFate]

Moskva in a CV match is very difficult considering (at least before the AP rockets nerf) CVs will eat you alive.

[@beardumaw24]

CsS any ship alive now, Moskva had one of the better AA suits in game

[@waterfreya]

PQ, my man, not checking the team score after the second game is killing me right there...Love the series though

[@VuHien2011]

Real life Moskva sunk!

[@nechastivi3187]

I cant choose right now between Moskva or Gunter Lutjens for Coal.

[@cookiesupervisor2211]

If you are German Lutjens , if you have soviet commanders that you want to train Moskva is a choice , I have Moska and is not bad ship , I would rather take ship instead of captain , as face it he is only good on German bbs .

[@kingofcastlechaos]

Commanders can impact a lot of ships.

[@michaellewellyn9080]

@@cookiesupervisor2211 Moskva isn't a good choice, lol

[@mzidaan8072]

Wen u said played quit A BIT Me: seeing 2.5 million xp just beside cap picture

[@mikkodoria4778]

how to get this legendary upgrades?

[@Antoinelassus]

In the Armory

[@russianbias8003]

Moskva was the original sponge tank for CBs before everyone got the Stalingrad and you say that it can't tank well?????????

[@anthonycarrillo2212]

how much damage will a ship receive for a 60 sec perm fire?--- 1 fire

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Don't know but 2 missiles is enough to sink it

[@missk1697]

@@michaellewellyn9080 imagine having a brain, surely not something you experienced

[@jakechaffin3467]

wait Richthofen got buffed again?

[@redeclipse4ever409]

Yes

[@snafufubar]

My best games in this have been kiting away using HE.

[@Mario-kf3ej]

How can one not take skill for better reload on Moskva when due to terrible concealment it is almost 24/7 working? I mean how hard is to have someone within 14.1 km... not that hard. The only "upside" of having that terrible concealment.

[@cimitarthegrumpygamer3879]

What is a silver ship? Credits?

[@dr4k0nm47]

Silver Ship = Tech Tree Ship

[@atpyro7920]

Silver ship = techline, Gold ship = premium

[@volknetai.3690]

Agree with your AA build I do not. Lack of AA quantity and durability make it susceptible to HE shell. 1 AA station destroyed mean significantly less AA firepower. Even worse with the number it has ( 4 dual purpose turret and 12 AA stations )​ and AA build that you have would not demonstrate it effectiveness in battle as there no AA gun left

[@VDSLight]

Blow outs games are low tier thing always been... So result of making grinding easy and possibility to buy high tier ship makes higher tiers filled with bad players

[@tomzicare]

This shit has been sunk by Ukraine, SLAVA!!!

[@MAR19980]

I won't believe untill I saw targeting video my eyes those ukrainian lies with breath

[@johnpijano4786]

@@MAR19980 Well both Ukrainian and Russian state media says that it is sunk. Is that enough?

[@ggggg4374]

@@MAR19980 cope

[@Lawinenmann]

@@MAR19980 cope

[@dladdict6285]

@@MAR19980 cope

[@yourfavoritelawnguy2722]

Moskva isnt played because Petro has better armor, better ap, only slightly worse reload. I love playing Moskva until i run into a petro

[@Grazyfarmer]

Is the Moskva worth spending coal on it...

[@dmoug1]

Long time ago but good game bud

[@andrewscott3184]

smack, then speak, smack then speak. -_-

[@speterj]

This is not the Moskva

[@CoL_Drake]

no anti sub warfare = unplayable

[@benjaminv6039]

Moskva literally does nothing better than other russian ships, Nevski is better at long range, Petro and Stalin at medium to short. It has nothing to offer.

[@RenanSAbreu]

*Comment before watching the video; Is Moskva worth the amount of coal? It's a realy gorgeous ship and his radar looks pretty good.

[@shadeofheresy]

No, its kinda rubbish atm. Petro/Stallin both better. What can you get these days? Pommern is fun...Marceau if you like DDs. Oo Salem is good if you don't have DM or Alaska.

[@JohnWilliams-sq7cj]

No, Petro is way better.

[@WrongWayRay_1]

🙂

[@Arengeesus]

why are ppl still calling tier 10 special ships a premium ship lol.

[@kingofcastlechaos]

Because they are. Look at the filters in port, there are options to show the difference.

[@Arengeesus]

@@kingofcastlechaos these tier 10s doesnt have credit multiplier therefore theyre not considered as "premium". Game only says it's premium to trick you into thinking it farms more credits but it dont. It's almost same like some WOT tier 10 and 9 special tanks. Theyre also considered "premium" in game filters but they dont have any credit multiplier.

[@JohnWilliams-sq7cj]

@@Arengeesus In actuality they do farm more credits because they're service costs are halved at at tier 7 levels. You will make way more money with a special tier 10 or 9 ship vs their tech tree counterpart even with permacamos. Ex Salem makes way more credits than DM regardless in any battle mode.

[@Arengeesus]

@@JohnWilliams-sq7cj point is special ships dont have credit multiplier. I know what are they

[@SlavicUnionGaming]

Devs need to stop turning silver ships into premuim Thats a rip off toward players! Im gonna sue wargaming

[@lincolnwikipedia4218]

Well this ship is no more slava ukraine

[@dladdict6285]

Hell yeah

[@missk1697]

Slava Iraq

[@sohjayknox3271]

Come back to the console version please 😂😭 I’m trying to learn how to destroy noobs over there lol but for reals tho….come back to legends 😐

[@sohjayknox3271]

Or like do a video over there on how to get coal cause I have no idea

[@amicuss7136]

hit & burning slava ukraine

[@xtrythis1170]

ggwp

[@nurulamin2673]

bro you are good enough to be followed and I see your video. But that napoli was a complete noob. You should have died right after 93k damage.

[@dimitrijebozovic8975]

camping is the key... boring to watch- not your fault... it's just the game...

[@matthewphelps5136]

Poor Moskva, what wargaming did to you makes me sad.

[@michaellewellyn9080]

MOSKVA, WHAT ukraine did to you makes me happy

[@theno.1violakid820]

I was the 100th like

[@46jerdboy]

Because most of us can't really access the unique mods, I think these videos would be more informative if you stuck to non-unique.

[@Antoinelassus]

You can have in the armory

[@konellin189]

@@Antoinelassus where? I cant find it for some reason....I got the normal coal stuff not that legendary one

[@Antoinelassus]

@@konellin189 is in rb with the slava paolo emilio ohio ... you can have it for almost all tier 10 but not all of yhem are good

[@Antoinelassus]

The name have change kno its call improvement

[@Antoinelassus]

Yes you can have all of them in the Armory is in rb with the slava paolo.. vut not all of them are good

[@teddysurf]

When did it used to be a silver ship??? It used to be the main soviet cruiser heavy line… also the AP is far superior to the HE… I don’t think you know anything you’re talking about through all of your videos…

[@teddysurf]

@Jerry Xu Why because he’s on KZbin…lol why are people so easily impressed with anything that they can watch and gets a lot of attention even if it’s the stupidest thing ever like Donald Trump or the Kardashians or this…lol

[@kevindelgado2982]

I hate this ship, Yoshino is so much better

[@crexius4478]

que c'est mal joué, une horreur à regarder

[@miked815]

Don't complain about blowout games when you're on the winning team!... try being on the losing end of a blowout consistently with a near unicum w/r... makes me quit the game and just watch yt videos of it.

[@Cpt_DoDo]

crying over a 5min game? have you seein WOT games? its over in 3mins ish if you are lucky you get a 5min game