One Villainous Scene - Invincible Takes the Subway

[@retroforager]

"My dad's gonna train me." Not the chekov's gun i was expecting but ok.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Yeah.

[@pinkpeppers5580]

OH MY GOSH THAT WORDPLAY

[@mikevg5200]

underrated comment

[@SirToaster9330]

why must you hurt me this way

[@sjahbw]

Gtgyhv(g

[@chickencurry420]

I love Omniman's reaction to Mark's answer. His face goes from disarmed, to pretending not to be disarmed, back to disarmed, then he's pissed off at himself for having this reaction and allowing himself to care so much

[@AinsleySunny]

pretty much

[@KryptikM3]

Props to the animators who let you see every moment of Ominman's agonizing realization, ever peak and valley of it until he realizes that yes, he just did THAT to a son he truly loves, and how much of a monster that makes him. From shocked, to angry, to inconsolable, to self-loathing.

[@versecontro4898]

@@KryptikM3 you forgot acceptance back into self hatred for letting him feel unconditional love ALL the way into uncertainty.

[@Algorithxm]

😂😂😂😂

[@millo7295]

Spelt it wrong sooo Opinion discarded

[@ArthurCrane92]

I think it sucks that so many people latched so hard to Nolan's "pet" remark about Debbie because it really undercuts just how important her role ended up being. She indirectly helped save the world just by being a good mother to Mark and helping him have a sense of humanity, something he wasn't really getting from Nolan.

[@RacingSnails64]

i haven't even watched this show yet and i already love her, she's just such a good person.

[@Richard-Espanol]

@@RacingSnails64 she's amazing, I won't spoil anything but she's such an important part of the show and has her own strengths to make a stand.

[@Leo-ws3bp]

I feel like Nolan also didn't like calling her a pet. You can tell she cares about her, but he needed to drive his point home that human life doesn't matter

[@Tasoku01]

@@Leo-ws3bp There are people out there who think pets are way better than humans because they are dutifully loyal and love you no matter what, so even if it may seem like an insensitive remark, it does make sense in the context of what kind of person he is.

[@ajfite1277]

People also took it wrong. They think being called a pet in this context is a bad thing but from his angle, she is a pet, something you love with every fiber of your being for a short time then it dies. Viltrumites live for freaking ever so she really is just a blip in the grand scheme of his life

[@leothewhiteranger]

I think my favorite moment is Nolan's REACTION to Mark's comment at the end. Like, holy crap, credit to the animators for conveying so much emotion on visual alone, and JK Simmons is, naturally, ALWAYS a win.

[@seapeajones]

Yeah, holy hell. Was not expecting the amount of emotion that inspired.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

I'm confused to how they could afford JK Simmons for a whole series, arent most celebrities for tv expensive?

[@jerry3790]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral Valve got him for Portal 2. Can’t be that hard

[@JeffHanke]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral I think voice work can be much cheaper. It's way easier for celebs to take a day or two (at a time) and go to a nearby recording studio to record a season's worth of lines wherever they may be in between other commitments. No hair/makeup, no location shooting etc.

[@scrp6638]

@@jerry3790 “TV boys told me we can’t afford Steven Yeun, nevermind JK Simmons. Bought em anyway.”

[@hiropisku1078]

To put it simple, Omniman went native and was trying to deny his feelings about humanity and his family. If you dehumanize, it's much easier to conqueror and enslave earth since they're now lesser creatures. However, since Mark was in(vincible), he managed to hold on long enough and convince his father to stop since his fatherly love overcame his dedication to the Viltrumite Empire. A son's love managed to overcome a man who's only known conquering and death for hundreds of years.

[@travistucker1033]

It's not hard to "dehumanize" someone when 1) you're not human, and 2) you are objectively superior. He overcame his natural instincts out of love.

[@aegis6485]

Stroheim? Is that you?

[@a_angry_bunny]

I see dehumanizing in our society way too much and it's heartbreaking. Number one reason I don't like getting into internet fights regarding politics.

[@pip5528]

@@a_angry_bunny True. He did mention fascism and imperialism in this video but it was more from a philosophical standpoint to give examples rather than political. The general point about "might is right" can of course be applied quite broadly. Dehumanization is of course terrible any way you slice it.

[@pip5528]

@Mike Dalby Yes, compared to Viltrumites, humans are weak and short-lived.

[@jackdeviant2025]

Nolan wasn't trying to convince his son. He was trying to convince himself. Years of living "undercover", it got to him, the ideals he was brainwashed with from birth were brought into conflict. I haven't read the comics, but I don't think Nolan had a wife and son before Debbie and Mark. The baseball scene emphasizes this, he watches the game indifferently, but as he watches Mark as Debbie explains humanity to him, you see the old Nolan start to breakdown. And of course, as you stated, for all the horrors committed to try to convince Mark: "You dad.. I'd still have you."

[@tyger5645]

You hit the nail on the head. Nolan says this in the comics. He says that he was conflicted because he went through thousands of years of brainwashing and was fearful of what would happen if he didn’t conquer earth.

[@everyone4352]

So does that mean that Nolan was trying to convince himself when he said that he could "Start all over again, Get another kid, What's another 17 years"

[@tyger5645]

@@everyone4352 yes. He was trying to convince himself that Mark didn’t matter. That he could always start again with another kid. Evidently this didn’t work as even though he does end up having another kid he still loves Mark.

[@everyone4352]

@@tyger5645 Nice

[@everyone4352]

@@tyger5645 Wait so who's the other kid?

[@sonnyaguilar5593]

I'm surprised you didn't end this video with: "And this show is a good reminder of how J.K. Simmons is always a win!"

[@kyrohowe3156]

Get MORE pics of That WEBHEAD!

[@kjpierson1152]

JK Simmons is always right, this video doesn't change that. Tune into the Daily Bugle Live tonight to see why.

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

He didn’t need to. We all know by now ;)

[@DigiBrad]

It's implied haha

[@wolfgamer8770]

@@beneko1127 don't forget burning life's house down with lemons.

[@hpfan2007]

“Dad what are we having for dinner?” “I was thinking Subway” “......”

[@marvinetnel3556]

Damn you for making me laugh

[@hpfan2007]

@@marvinetnel3556 No but you know something? I kept seeing memes like that before I finally watched the show so for days I was thinking “what does he hit him with a train or something?”

[@hpfan2007]

@@marvinetnel3556 Turned out I was kinda right

[@westrim]

Eat Fresh!

[@yaylife171]

@@hpfan2007 correction He hits the train with Mark.

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

The thing is, this entire scene takes on an entirely new perspective if you consider the idea that this isn't just Omni-Man trying to convince Invincible to turn against Earth, but that Omni-Man is trying to convince *himself* as well. His argument isn't just with Invincible, but also with himself, the part of him that keeps telling him that what he is doing is wrong. It's a fight between a lifetime of indoctrinated beliefs and his own burgeoning morality. Look at his face when he says that his wife is more like a pet. He can't meet Mark's gaze, and it genuinely sounds insincere. All the other things he says, he's much more confident, able to look his son in the eyes, but that one moment shows that he doesn't believe the words coming out of his mouth. He's not just lying to Mark, but to himself, trying to convince himself that what he's saying is the truth. He's trying to convince himself that he still believes in the "Might Is Right" school of thought that his homeworld has indoctrinated into him since birth, but having spent years on Earth, he's seen that there's another way to live, a better way. But he knows how powerful his people are, and that he's just one and they are many. He'd never have any chance of stopping them alone, and he believes that there's no one else strong enough to help him. After all, he could solo the world's version of the Justice League, the world's mightiest team of heroes. What hope does Earth have when just one of him can match their very best? Even if he did succeed, in a century, everyone he'd "saved" would be dead anyway. What point was there in saving the world? After five hundred years, what would Nolan have? Meanwhile, Mark refuses to back down. In response to all of Omni-Man's "well-reasoned" arguments, Mark's only real response keeps boiling down to "What you're doing is wrong. Yes, they're like ants to us, like mayflies to us, but what you're doing is still wrong." Because morality doesn't require logic or reason. You do the right thing because it is the right thing, not because of logic or reason. When Mark counters Nolan's final argument, answering the seemingly impossible to answer question, it finally breaks Nolan, forcing him to confront his true feelings and the reality of what he has done. But unable to do so, Nolan flees the scene. Maybe it is because I've read the entire Invincible comic series, but I have more sympathy for Nolan because I know where his path is going to lead him, and how it ultimately ends.

[@Koda.R]

this is the most underrated comment in this video.

[@KyrstOak]

@@Koda.R Definitely.

[@TownBiness97]

In 100 years they'd be dead but their offspring will live on. Much more than you could say if they were conquered and slaughtered

[@lucariolawmen919]

I noticed this in the scene after a few rewatches and I'm sad more people don't bring this up, also in a scene in episode 7 he literally gives Debie the evidence as to his murder of the guardians, which he didn't have to do, but he did so anyways. I wholeheartedly agree with this comment and I'm kinda sad people don't bring up how he's lieing to himself about how he views Debie as a pet or some other scenes where he's showing signs that he truly does love her, he's just staying strong in order to try to convince his son to join him and trying to convince himself that there is no other way.

[@Pcgamingfixes]

There you go. You get it.

[@Thebeaver-px1gc]

Mark is the one person who can actually say “my dad is going to kill me” jokingly but meaningfully at the same time

[@xXChipsAndGravyXx]

Sadly untrue

[@uncroppedsoop]

@@xXChipsAndGravyXx _sadly?_

[@xXChipsAndGravyXx]

@@uncroppedsoop yes it is sad that mark actually ISNT the only person in the world who can say that theirndad is going to kill them in a jokey way whilst actually meaning what they said

[@uncroppedsoop]

@@xXChipsAndGravyXx ohhhh

[@xisigma]

Rahaf mohammed.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

The whole “ Superman, but bad” trope has been done to death at this point, but Invincible is one of the only pieces of media that not only makes that trope work, but elevates it. We don’t just see Omni-Man at his worst - we see him at his best, through the eyes of his friends and family. His teammates who love and trust him unconditionally, his wife who’s seemingly watched him grow and mature into a better person, and his son who worships him and spends the entire show training to be as legendary and selfless a hero as him. And then the truth comes out, and all the comfort he brings those people is brutally ripped away from them - and, by extension, us. And even then, in the face of this cold, uncaring, bleak monstrosity that Omni-Man has become, we’re reminded that he’s only a man. A man who, despite what he tells himself, has learned to care for these fleeting motes of dust called humans. A man who loves his son, despite it all. A man who thought he was a hero, a savior, but realized at the end he was only a failure. For all that horror and misery, in the end, all we have is the hope to be better tomorrow, even for the worst of us. What a scene. What a character. What an amazing show. Edit: Got a lot of comments saying that the comic series was one of the first of its kind to do this trope, which is an excellent point! I'm glad the show was able to do that justice, and (in my opinion, at least) even improve upon it in some aspects.

[@toe_sucker_4165]

I think it works because it does, in universe, the same thing the "Superman but evil" trope is meant to do to us: make us see this familiar, safe thing in an unsafe light.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@toe_sucker_4165 Exactly. The meta angle really helps sell the dread/desperation.

[@Tanstaafl_74]

Agreed. It's been done to death and none of them, not even this show, touch the prime example of the "Superman, but bad" trope that is actually Superman, but bad. Injustice. Nothing touches the Injustice storyline. He actually takes over the world, all the other heroes split down the middle and either join him or fight him.

[@garrettviewegh677]

To throw my hat into the ring, I’d have to agree with the message that the show sends at the end of the season. Despite all the reasons Omni-man states to justify his cruel and unfeeling outlook. After beating his own son nearly to death, you see a look of contempt, then realization, regret, and finally, bitter denial. I believe the message of Invincible, at least for this season, is that no one good is truly good, no one bad is truly bad, and hero’s are not completely pure. At the end, the lesson may be that even the cruelest of people have a chance to change if they wish to be redeemed. But it doesn’t change the fact how painful the truth really was.

[@pyrosianheir]

@@Tanstaafl_74 As someone who's read the comic - I'd put Invincible a tier above Injustice. Even in the comics that tie into the games, Injustice never reaches the level of excellent character work that Invincible does over the course of its entire run.

[@Leprechaunproduction]

"Think, Mark! What will you have after 500 years?!" "Photos... I'll still have photos of Spider-Man..."

[@acgeewhiz]

That’s great, lol. I can usually block out other roles for voice acting, but JJJ is always in the back of my mind when I hear JK Simmons’ voice.

[@ducasse8473]

JJJ: *Fuckin cries*

[@o0Avalon0o]

Damn I needed that laugh

[@ToffeeTango1]

The fact that Mark eventually meets actually Spider-Man in the comics made this even better not gonna lie

[@ako3624]

@@ToffeeTango1 WHAT WHERE. I NEED TO READ THAT NOWWW

[@Me-ss2gq]

‘While this may not look like the face of a hero who won…Omni-Man loses.’ 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 bravo for that line, dude.

[@apollyonnoctis1291]

“Thus the expert in battle moves the enemy, and is not moved by him.” -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[@Saint_Wolf_]

Results for today's battle: Omni-man loses. Let's see if you catch that reference 😉

[@Kaebuki]

@@Saint_Wolf_ Daddy Daddy Do~

[@ToffeeTango1]

Nolan literally gets killed by the leader of the Viltrumites for his actions which started with the choice not to kill Mark. So yea, that’s absolutely right.

[@justinchalifoux4424]

@@ToffeeTango1 man, I already knew this but the spoilers. Come on now :l

[@aidinexmachina4232]

Without spoiling, the best part about this story is just how much Nolan realizes he lost by doing what he did. I can't wait for you all to experience Invincible in full. Absolutely amazing story.

[@ershnuff]

Thanks for saying what you did without spoiling. Nolan's leaving combined with Mark's talk with the alien at the end that "Viltrumites don't just leave" was very telling about something in Nolan. That and the more obvious recollection of the baseball game and feeling actual joy for Mark's victory. Mark is Invincible not in the literal sense, but in the sense that his lack of experience of power he makes up for in compassion and heart. How many people could still say they want to see their dad or treat him as anything less than a murderous monster after how many people he just murdered? I don't know about you, but if I found out my dad was a murderer and murdered a bunch of people in front of me I'd want nothing to ever do with him again. Mark is something else.

[@justincruz5720]

@@ershnuff All that carnage would most likely pale in comparison to the alternative.

[@heatprod2413]

@@justincruz5720 i am the one who knocks

[@cyberpunk5490]

Would you say it's akin to Oogway's quote: "The more you take, the less you have"?

[@level5650]

Except for one specific thing about a female character I really, really hope they change.

[@TheAdvertisement]

The way Mark sees all the murder and violence that Nolan did, and the fact that he still loves and values his dad after that, is a double blow. It both shows how nothing can break his morals, watching those people die was still painful and they mattered to him, but it also shows that Mark knows that Nolan still has a bit of humanity in him, that he still thinks Nolan can be redeemed. Whether that can be considered foolish or not, it works, and Nolan flies away having failed and not knowing how to accept it.

[@TonyTylerDraws]

*One Villainous Scene* That one viewer: "Is this a kids show??🙃"

[@mellotomevoices]

Fun Fact: There is a show called Villainous.

[@92brunod]

@@mellotomevoices And it is a kids show... I think

[@The_NPC20]

Sausage Party

[@mellotomevoices]

@@92brunod Yup. By Cartoon Network.

[@DarthBiomech]

The other that one viewer: "It's animated, _of course_ it is!"

[@zaneampho]

I know you're cinema wins and you might feel like you have to just point out the wins if every movie , but we want more content like this. Your analysis of film or TV is so effen great, that as a person that is studying film finds super helpful

[@gen2mediainc.577]

^

[@retroforager]

Seconded! He's great at analysis! I wouldn't mind him incorporating it, along with even a dash of criticism into his videos.

[@StoneStephenT]

amen

[@alessandropereira4976]

Couldn’t agree more, I do love having a place just to see the good side or to make fun of. But we need something in between

[@dylancurtin6609]

Yes fam

[@nawf4372]

I like how Nolan's "they don't live as long as us so you can't get attached" argument is canceled out BEFORE IT IS EVEN SAID by the immortal, who has probably lived centuries longer than Noland and was extremely attached to the Guardians of the Globe. The first thing he does when he gets revived is charge at Omni-man with a berserk scream about how he betrayed and murdered them.

[@jules_8673]

The irony is he’s not even immortal. And there are stronger, scarier fishes in this ocean.

[@LTDextel]

Great point

[@zachfox9140]

I never bought that Nolan actually believed that, I think it was just a reason he gave, he would probably think the same thing about a species that lives as long or longer than Viltrumites, the reason he doesn’t care is because they’re not his species. Viltrumites believe that their species is superior because of their strength and that makes all other species inherently lesser.

[@jackyoh971]

@@zachfox9140 The reason he doesn't cared it's because Viltrumites are ruled by Fascist Omniman was raised in a propaganda that doesn't make sense if you really think about it. Like every fascist propaganda.

[@masonwilliams1345]

@@jules_8673 technically he is. His "death" is explained as just a coma for him. As long as his head and body are near each other he can come back. That's why he didn't revive until the Mauler twins attached his head with the collar while Cecil's team failed.

[@SheldonAdama17]

Episode 1: Omni-Man trains his son. Episode 8: Omni-Man TRAINS his son.

[@UltraNerdyGamer]

I love how much of this conflict is essentially in Nolan's own head. The second Mark rebels against him, his brutal philosophy leads him to believe that Mark wants him dead. In his head it's his dream of conquering Earth with his son vs Mark's dream of protecting humanity by killing anyone who threatens it, Nolan included. Nolan's thought process can only conceive of these two outcomes, completely bypassing a third: Mark wants humanity to be free while living ALONGSIDE his father. It's the realization that he misunderstood Mark and made him out to be the monster that he himself is that breaks him.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Also lets take this from Nolan's perspective. He knows first hand what the Viltrumites are capable of, he's seen it. Hell we've seen it, Omni-Man alone wiped out the strongest heroes on the planet and tanked everything the US threw at him, it barely slowed him down. Imagine what an army of them would do. Nolan knows even if he changes his ways it won't matter in the end as his people will just send another, likely more dangerous and violent individual who will just start leveling cities left right and center. To him, what he's doing is the lesser of Two Evils.

[@Richard-Espanol]

And I think that's the conflict he had in the first season. I got a bit spoiled in the comments but long story short it's obvious Nolan answers to someone with a higher authority. And in a society where the strongest rules, it's clear that there are people who can mop the floor with Nolan. And at the end of this season Allen says that as soon as the Viltrumites find out Nolan failed to conquer earth. They're sending more of them to deal with whatever problem is there.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@Richard-Espanol Exactly, it's pretty clear that Nolan is already conflicted and he isn't doing this because of the Might is Right mentality, but because he knows Earth is doomed otherwise. Morality means less than shit if your planet gets nuked from orbit. More advanced and powerful civilizations have tried resisting the Viltrumites and died. Also Nolan tells Mark he didn't want Mark to be a Viltrumite because then he'll outlive everyone and everything he loves. He'll have to sit and watch as the civilization he grew up in is slowly destroyed by time. That would drive someone insane and Nolan doesn't want that to happen to Mark. So yeah, pretty obvious Mr. Cinema Wins here clearly didn't read much into this series.

[@agentc7020]

Since you've read the comics I'm sure you know that Nolan changing his ways DID matter so it was all an excuse he told himself over and over to keep doing attrocities whenever he did one. A cowardly excuse that cost the lives of billions around Nolan's long and bloody life.

[@chillax319]

Say hello to the Conquest in, probably 2nd, season. Or perhaps in the third.

[@2495781]

@@agentc7020 I mean to him at that moment it seemed hopeless. He was one man who would have to face hundreds more like him older and stronger since Viltrimitrs get stronger with age. Its not a perfect excuse but from his view point what hope was there other then to Subjugate Earth and make sure they behave. If he doesn't then as they pointed out another stronger and more brutal Viltrimite would come and level entire cities or countries. Knock us back to the stone age until we learned to behave and be good slaves.

[@Web-Slinger42]

It was really brutal watching Omni-Man run a train on his own son.

[@fatclown3760]

Ayooo??????

[@sarabrown3402]

LMAO PAUSE

[@nikp3649]

???

[@spongebobdrippants9030]

Phrasing lmao

[@esteban8471]

*Hold up*

[@BugsyFoga]

This is what happens when Jameson doesn’t get his pictures of Spider-Man.

[@andiward7068]

Hahaaaha 😄

[@sjahbw]

Hvghny

[@madmanoliver]

I think I've seen this joke on every invincible vid I've watched.

[@lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394]

What zero pics of Spider-Man does to a mf

[@arthurlam751]

1000th like

[@MrOneStrange]

Steven Yeun is incredible throughout the series, but the finale is some of his best work.

[@StealthPants1]

As someone who's been reading the comics for years now, I LOVED this scene. Not for the extreme violence or the shock of it (since I knew this would happen), but for the visceral reaction it brought out of everyone who watched it. I still had a similar, albeit lessened reaction, but the gut wrenching disgust brought out in people seeing it for the first time?! Incredible. Seeing everyone have the same reaction I did when I first read it is so rewarding, and I'm so glad the show was good (although of course I think the comics are better in many aspects). I hope that A. the show leads people to read the comics, they're fucking great, and B. that the show keeps going, and lives up to the standard of quality set up by both the first season and the comics it came from.

[@Demi_Purple]

Can I ref this whenever someone gets confused why I love reactions? I’m not good at explaining myself

[@StealthPants1]

@@Demi_Purple absolutely lol

[@Demi_Purple]

@@StealthPants1 thnx comrade

[@BobbyTheWallflower]

The moment that sticks with me the most from this show is the sight of War Woman's head doing a 180. It's stuck with more just as much as the train scene

[@jkfozul2316]

I'm almost right there with you! But what got me is when she spits up blood, DOWN HER BACK! That really gave me the heeby jeebies

[@ProjektTaku]

the moment that stuck with me was red rush getting his head crushed. I feel like his family got the most focus out of all the guardians of the globe and seeing him unable to move while punching omni man, breaking his hands and then omni man just crushing his head and his blood just splattering everywhere was just heartbreaking. And its even worse when you consider that for him his head getting crushed was taking hour so his last few moments were his getting his head crushed while breaking his arms excruciatingly slowly. Also the line "joseph is finally standing still and I can't even see him" is heartbreakingly pefect

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@ProjektTaku Also he was the one preventing anyone from being killed at first so after he goes the rest soon follow

[@ProjektTaku]

@@chidorirasenganz yeah. It makes sense omni man would go after red rush as he is the only one who can evade him and read him and also he could keep pushing everyone out of the way of omni mans attacks. Also he could just run away and get help in like 1 sec

[@hootsifer-darling]

@@ProjektTaku oh my god I didn't even think of that

[@samcoffey6917]

Easily one of my favourite shows I've watched this year, animated or otherwise. JK Simmons owns it, love it.

[@SirToaster9330]

he was perfect for the role

[@JoNarDLoLz]

His voice and his acting is really something to behold and gives any role he gets to much power. From Spiderman 1, Whiplash, or even Korra, he just smashes it.

[@samcoffey6917]

@@JoNarDLoLz Hearing his voice in Korra was a lovely surprise, that fight in season 3 was up there for some of the best moments of the combined Avatar/Korra-verse, all because of JK.

[@greigns7781]

Steven Yuen killed it too

[@oats1005]

That was such a good show

[@SonRob01]

You mean season the show has got 2 more seasons at least to go

[@theonlykoh4631]

Is*

[@tonypeppermint5329]

@@KronosOGAccount Oh boy.

[@165hy9]

@@KronosOGAccount after finishing the comics yesterday Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy

[@sjahbw]

Grhgtthh

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

Something I mentioned under another video about Omni-Man but I also want to talk about here is his line about Debbie. "She's more like a pet to me." Because you can absolutely get where he's coming from. As humans, we often bond with and genuinely love pets that we will absolutely outlive, but will stick with nonetheless. Nolan will outlive Debbie by eons, but he still loves her. But by wording it as "She's like a pet to me" he takes that genuine love and twists it into something horrible. It's such an amazing thing the writers of the show did to make that line work so well, to where you get where he's coming from but it still leaves you feeling uneasy.

[@artimaax]

Mark’s answer to the “who will you have then” just broke my heart. The entire scene hurt but that was just,,, I went from stunned silence to having to pause the show because I couldn’t see through the tear

[@GratefulforFreePress]

yep, absolutely heartwrenching

[@GandalfTheTsaagan]

When Omniman asks "What will you have in 500 years?!" Mark replies "You, dad." because this is personal between the two and shows how Nolan is wrong, first on his convictions and ultimately in traumatizing the person he loves the most to make a point (to himself mostly). But taking on that question, what would you have after 500 years? You would have a life, a big family even. You could create an entire race of dogs solely from your first pet! Like, imagine being the 1000 year old great-great-great+ grandpa that started the family in the family reunions. Admittedly, it all could be doom and gloom, but you'd literally have forever to change that.

[@antibull4869]

Sure but your love life? Your romantic attachments? Any attachment you make to anyone? You are condemning yourself to a lifetime of repeating sorrow at their deaths. His point makes sense, but ignores that the sorrow you feel is only a result of the joy you brought to the other person.

[@GandalfTheTsaagan]

@@antibull4869 I mean, that doesn't stop at least some people having several pets and partners all throughout their life. Plus you've literally got decades to mourn each time, moreso if you're immortal. At some point it would become another cycle in one's life.

[@goldenapplesaga5446]

@@antibull4869 I don't necessarily disagree but I think that thinking about it like that focuses too much on the negative that situation would cause and not enough on the positive. I'm living in the recent aftermath of losing my cat and I can tell you, while it so much more than absolutely sucks I will never forget loving my Wats. So I don't disagree but I think your point doesn't take into account the full picture

[@thelvadem5713]

Don't get depressed from losing loved ones... Be happy about the memories you created with them...

[@lightningrain3114]

I think itd be pretty cool

[@onionsonstilts]

If anyone doesn't mind spoiling the show for themselves, the graphic novel is superb and there is a lot of it!

[@profturtle1894]

I was debating on commenting "a lot of that is indeed, talked about in the comics" but I figured no one wants to drop a whole lotta money to figure it out.

[@tyger5645]

@@profturtle1894 I did lol. I’m super happy I did. The comic is amazing and there is a ton of stuff I can’t wait to see in the show like Mark and Eve together and the Conquest fight.

[@165hy9]

How will they adapt Major spoilers Anissa raping mark and his reaction

[@tyger5645]

@@165hy9 I imagine it will still be in the show. The scene itself will probably happen offscreen as the aftermath is far more important than the rape itself. It’s one of the few instances in media where a man is raped and it’s played as a serious issue instead of a joke. I imagine we’ll see more of Mark struggling with the trauma and how Mark and Eve deal with it. It was done well in the comics but it definitely could’ve been handled better. I think they’ll probably either remove Anissas redemption arc or give her more time to apologize to Mark and admit she was a horrible person who did horrible things.

[@transformersrevenge9]

I didn't like the comic at all.

[@castbet9183]

I feel like Omni-man’s entire monologue is him trying to convince himself rather than Mark. Because he knows Mark get his ass handed to him and he may want to quit, but even when he contemplates it he still goes to help others even if he wanted to give it up

[@kenthefele113]

Debbie is the true hero of invincible. She raised Mark with great morals and was the main reason Nolan gained humanity.

[@thebeepman6059]

2:50, this is proven earlier in the show, although it would only become clear on the second viewing when people know how old Nolan likely is or can be, in episode four at the cafe in Rome Nolan says his first date with Debbie wasn’t that long ago, he’s the corrected that it was twenty years ago, and he just goes “huh”, which I would say is decent enough proof that he has no concept of mortal (ish) time.

[@SinHurr]

a fifth-ish of Debbie's total lifetime ago, like, what a 100th of his? I forget what the exact life span of a Vitrimite is, but as I close in on my 40s I start to see how easily time slips away like that. I can only imagine how bad it would be after centuries.

[@Iliadic]

@@SinHurr IIRC they live for like 500,000 to 1,000,000 years if they keep up right. Why you'd want to live a million years though is beyond me.

[@slowlypassingaway1285]

this show really is outstanding and probably one of the most realistic hero show ever.

[@ProjektTaku]

"realistic" might be stretching it

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@ProjektTaku realistic as far as expectations vs reality with everyone involved

[@raffierutomo8948]

“Most realistic” ehh not really but realistic given the high powered universe similar to marvel or dc, yea Compared to something like The Boys and their very grounded and grim universe, Invincible manages to still ground our reality without losing the hopefulness and humane side of heroes and villains Not that I’m saying The Boys is worse because of it, but I personally like that Invincible shows us that humanity is something anyone can achieve even under all the action and bloodshed

[@ProjektTaku]

@@raffierutomo8948 yeah

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

@@raffierutomo8948 I mean MCU is just as believable as this show is… which is to say, not at all. But realism is a hard thing to fully quantify.

[@KFP_Fanboy]

“You, Dad. I’d still have you.” “As a member of the abusive parents community, I would like to humbly reject your offer.”

[@AO00720]

But his dad raised him well.

[@SirToaster9330]

this is the one time Nolan ever abused his son and it was more of a fight

[@sjahbw]

T&gggghj

[@EikeSky]

@@SirToaster9330 I think the point was LFB is of that group, not trying to assert that Nolan was... I think. Otherwise, I completely agree with you. One of the best parts of this show was the "human" growth in Nolan's personality that ended up winning out the day ("winning" being.... Loose in the context)

[@Scuuurbs]

@@SirToaster9330 Yeah, a fight because he learns his father is a murderous psychopath. Sorry, but when I learn my father has no regard for life and thinks of my mom as a pet, I tend to go the Peter Quill route.

[@AzureIV]

I hate how people think that just because something is animated, even something so gory, that it should have less impact than if it was live-action. It is similar to comic books vs. non-comic books. I suggest you watch/read everything through the same lens. Give everything the same weight of believability. You will get a lot more from it.

[@420mar5]

fax

[@katokianimation]

Actually i take animated action more seriously. How real people slowly pushing each others in front of green screen supported by collision simulation of a cgi city in the backround is just less impactive then a well animeted 2d scene.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

EXACTLY! But it all depends on seriously the material is taken, animated or live action!

[@indulgencerofindulgence5970]

Is not it because it is animated, it's ultra violence can be encountered everywhere. So of course it will have less Impact for that have acclimated to violence in the media B

[@Dbossdlm]

2:36 He wasn’t saying the her life was worthless, he was trying to explain that despite the fact he enjoys his time with her, she is only alive for a small small sliver of his total lifetime, calling her a pet is actually very generous considering a common pet like a dog lives for 5-10 years which equates to a decent chunk of a humans life while the time he spent with her is less that a percent of his own lifetime. While he likes her he’s tryna convince mark that is better to value his own species or kind over another, as humans value other humans over any other animal.

[@jorgecarbajal8076]

5:31 I felt the same way while watching the episode. As a viewer, I was shocked by the absolute brutality of this scene, but I can’t even begin to imagine what Mark was really feeling during all of it.

[@piplup10203854]

That line that Mark utters as he lays there when Nolan shouts, “What will you have after 500 years mark!.” and he replied, “You dad. I’d have you.” Made me 😭 and it shows even though Nolan tries to discard his time on Earth as nothing and throw everything away it shows how Mark is only really best understood by his dad and that mark understands the hardships his dad has lived as a different species but still has his humanity despite being half Viltrumite 🥺

[@rose_qwq]

Turned me into a big baby 😂 worse than any other show or movie has before Idk why exactly but it really touched me and Nolan's reaction feels so raw and genuine

[@piplup10203854]

@@rose_qwq It really had me like that too 😂 the show has done so well to show different aspects of the comic and really bring out the best of it. Right same here! Nolan just starring in shock at how even at his son being at the edge of death he still thinks of his family and the life he has built being raised on earth and Nolan really let out everything he has held back and had nothing left to say.

[@piplup10203854]

@Mike Dalby Exactly, it also shows the isolation that his father has grown through living as a species of survival of the strongest. I really look forward to having more moments like these throughout the show cause there are so many instances in the comics that could use this kind of storytelling through animation and voice work.

[@realwaifus5514]

To me the most impactful moment of Omni-man’s beat down of Mark is the subway scene in particular. Omni-man is trying to iterate to his son just how far beyond humanity they are, that their existence is so fundamentally different to the humans around them that Mark shouldn’t hold himself down with human ideas of right and wrong. And he chooses to show this, not by slamming Mark through humans like he already did, but by letting the humans literally break themselves against him. Mark in that instance is doing nothing other than being what he is, and what he is is so far beyond the world of humans that it is enough for the human world around him to tear itself apart. That is probably Omni-man’s most sinister action against his son because from his perspective what evidence is more damning than the beings who are less than you being ripped to shreds simply because your existence is so much more than theirs? It’s made all the more clear in that from that point on in the fight Omni-man isn’t intentionally trying to kill humans, he’s trying to beat his views into his son because his best, most irrefutable argument still hasn’t convince Mark. Edit: As for why I think this is the most impactful moment is that it’s Omni-man at his most genuine. More than when he’s quietly lecturing Mark or screaming at him while beating his face in, this shows how Omni-mam views not just humans but the whole universe, as something so innately inferior that it can and will break against him without failure.

[@pon3d120]

Thank you so much for acknowledging that the hyper-violence IS disturbing to watch. So many people I talk to just say "Whatever, it doesn't bother me," like that makes them tough, and it's disheartening because it severely undercuts the gravity and message of the moment.

[@christianfarren1179]

There is certainly a desensitization when it comes to violence in media these days. It’s gotten to the point where the only way it *can* affect some of us is to up to gore and the bizarre creativity of the movie/show. I say this because I’m in that headspace. I can watch something like this or The Boys over breakfast without any issues. Granted, the context/motivation behind the violence isn’t lost on me, but it doesn’t keep me from going about my day.

[@MrBrachiatingApe]

It disturbs the shit out of me. But then, I witnessed a multiple homicide in university where the murder weapon was a car traveling 55mph and anything that resembles that disturbs me. Still, I can kinda manage if I have to since it's not real, and obviously so. I don't want to sound flippant, but this makes me really grateful nobody ever invented a way to synchronize odors with sounds and images. Gross in its own way but also because odors bring back associated memories very intensely.

[@koidotjpeg9944]

For me, the gore itself doesn't bother me at all. What DID disturb me was the nature it all happened in

[@Double_D__]

The people who are trying to act tough and saying, "Oh, it's animated, so it's fine," or "It doesn't bother me," are the people who need to see it most because if they actually aren't affected by it, they're missing the point. If you see *that scene* and it doesn't affect you at all, you're basically like Omni-Man in that you've become too desensitized and accustomed to violence like that, and do not see that such horrific violence is just that: horrific. Even in-universe, whether it had been Mark, Eve, Will, or Amber, if anyone had to go through such a traumatic event, no matter how hard you'd try, that grotesque imagery would linger.

[@purevert]

It's alright not a pleasant experience but not that disturbing. I am not acting tough seeing so much death in a short time really made me stop thinking about it.

[@adamflux2]

I like the doctor who “I just forget things so I filled this library with journals” approach to immortal psychology.

[@SurveyingBTS]

Mark's answer hits me hard. Being a father to a 2 year old son myself, I couldn't imagine doing what Nolan did and yet still Mark loved his father. This show is a masterpiece.

[@ultimatebobafett130]

5:25-5:36 Mark would have felt body's crushed against his body, so brutal

[@ADrug]

I know picking at physics in cartoons is stupid, but I used this to cope with shock from this scene: Normal subway trains don't normally go past 60 km/h, and this train was arriving on station, it means slowing down. Let's say it moved at 40 km/h. Train carts are already solid and sturdy enough to stop completely before Mark's even went through the first wagon, not to mention going through an entire train without a stop. And even if it continued moving, first, Mark and Nolan, while considerably wide, do not take an entire width of a train, so people on the sides and on seats wouldn't have even be touched by them two. Second, while being hit by something at 40 km/h is painful, it's not enough to maim you, not to mention bloody tear you apart. What would've happened is train stops almost immediately, people receive mild injuries from being thrown forward by inertia, and that's it. If train were to continue moving while being literally split in half by Mark's body, people would receive same mild/severe injuries from hitting him. Nowhere near obliterated train station with train carts stacked on top of each other and human gore everywhere. The show needed that punch tho, and that scene delivers it, so it's fine. I just needed to tell myself that in case of evil Superman situation happening IRL I won't be shredded on my way to uni by his son's face.

[@ultimatebobafett130]

@@ADrug fair

[@andrewli6606]

@@ADrug We have to remember though that with Omni-Man's power, he can make it so he and Mark have no give and make it so they are basically immovable. They essentially have infinite inertia in this scene. They also have minimal surface area like how Superman would realistically punch through an airplane if he tried to lift it (even though Omni-Man carries a giant rock that should do that as well). It also doesn't look like the train was stopping at that station; it could easily have been passing through because there was no indication of braking. I think it's likely they would just punch through the front of the train and keep going as the front of the train will break before stopping. Shooting a cannon at the front of a train won't stop it. Even going by the conservative speed, 40 km/h is about 25 mph, which according to AAA is about a 10% lethality rate when a car strikes a pedestrian. Omni-Man and Mark have a small surface area and wouldn't conform like a car, so the lethality would be even higher. The highest speed of a New York subway car is 55 mph or about 90 kmh. AAA says getting hit by a car at 58 mph gives a 90% chance of death. Given that Mark and Omni-Man are smaller and harder than a car, the scene becomes more realistic.

[@GrandMichigan]

@@andrewli6606 I very much agree. I mean in the scene a train had just left the station. In many cities you have express trains that do not stop at every station. This was most likely an express train. Plus if we take into account how many subway cars are designed this scene becomes even more possible. Nolan and Invincible aren't on the ground. They are floating so they don't make contact with the bottom of the passenger cars or the roof of the cars. Instead they go through the center. Even though the current train cars used by the CTA in Chicago are different IRL. These passenger cars in the show are often used in other cities and countries because they can hold a lot of people. They are designed to be a very open space that allows people to move freely from one car to another. The only structural element that they punch through is the front of the train cars/ends of them. The other metal that we see them hit is hand rails for standing passengers to hold onto. That isn't structural and can easily be removed by design. Only when Omni man throws Mark to the ground through the base of a car is the train derailed. That impact lifted the train while destroying track. If anything I would say the train scene although brutal was the most realistic destruction scene for the Chicago event. Because the building collapse was pretty bad from an architectural standpoint. Buildings don't just crumple like that especially for the damage that was done. Once it tilted it would have very likely collapsed the floors below and fallen onto the streets. The top of the building depending on structural integrity could have partially survived. But this all ignores the fact that Invincible went through the center of the building and although he took out some supporting columns I don't think he took out enough to cause a collapse. The building definitely wouldn't be able to be fixed and would need to be demolished. But it shouldn't have just fallen like it did.

[@andrewli6606]

@@GrandMichigan yeah, Invincible ignores physics when it’s convenient and uses physics when it’s horrifying. The Mauler twins throw a woman by her head in the first episode. Realistically, her head would get torn off. Anytime Mark lifts something heavy like the Immortal’s Mt. Rushmore face or the meteor, it should break.

[@rossmorton7002]

I'm not gonna lie, I genuinely had tears in my eyes when I watched this scene. There's so much tension in the build up to it, then the "payoff", like you said, really is traumatising. Not just in how shockingly brutal it is, but also the sheer _betrayal_ of it and the callousness in which it's done. It was all I could think about for days after watching it.

[@whereisjoe5119]

I don't even know why I'm still here, suffering in this nightmare we call life. All it's ever been is a bunch of meaningless human concepts shoved into my face to distract me from freeing myself from this mortal prison. Why live if we just keep getting knocked down over and over again!? I wish I was never fucking born. I don't even have the strength to kill myself... I feel trapped. I never asked to be here.

[@ben_beanbag9502]

That final episode was so depressing. Can’t wait to see what’s gonna happen in season 2

[@Whatlander]

I loved how episode three was the equivalent of the "town kook who tries to warn everyone in a slasher movie" with Doc Seismic going off about imperialists and how colonizing might be bad, actually. Also the visual joke about The Immortal with Mount Rushmore. It was SO fun to watch, knowing what the comic's overarching story is.

[@minecrafter0505]

That Flaxon Planet scene was something else. I knew Omni-Man was bad but in that moment I rooted for him and when in his final act he made them open a portal for him to drop a rock on them when he left made me realize for what kind of monster I just rooted. It was weird how guilty that made me feel...

[@SirToaster9330]

I know people say that there's the twist that Nolan was secretly sadistic and cruel, but in my mind he is lying to himself

[@luiginastro8831]

"secretly"

[@RacingSnails64]

He's lying to himself that he doesn't care about Mark

[@LowReedExpert1]

I mean, if he thinks it's a secret, then yeah, he's dead wrong because he's pretty openly so

[@johnprice6271]

"Strengh is nothing more than a tool. It's up to who uses the tool to determine what side of good and evil it's on." -Me, I think.

[@choide19]

Please do prince of Egypt, an animated underrated classic

[@elijahoh4932]

Amazing

[@sprypinegames5390]

Totally underrated

[@jlev1028]

Yeah, I'm surprised no one has done "One Villainous Scene" when it comes to Ramses reuniting with Moses or when he reminisces about his innocent years with Moses and almost begins to soften before his son enters the picture.

[@samuraijackoff5354]

Seriously this

[@db5094]

LET MY PEEEEEOOOOPPLLLLLLEEEE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@erissfootworshipper3004]

4:27 "Probably because I'm a dad and choosing anything over my son, just does not compute." Today's dose of wholesomeness

[@canonogic]

What a way to drive your point home whilst also showing your strength, and highlighting Invincibles weaknesses. I freaking love the Train scene

[@leophoenix2155]

This has been the first show based off of a comic book that made me want to read the books in a long time. The last was captain America civil war.

[@joshwagner4134]

Do it. Books are wild, I guess it spoils future seasons of the show but totally worth it

[@leophoenix2155]

I probably will, after I've saved up some cash. Those books are expensive.

[@radicalthinking5651]

@@leophoenix2155 the omnibuses are the best deals by far, they're only like 25ish for like 8 volumes

[@leophoenix2155]

25 dollars?? I need to look into that. Thanks.

[@thedarkgunslinger2869]

@@leophoenix2155 check them out of a library

[@felixrvs]

ah!!! so happy to see you cover invincible!

[@joyfulvision]

This show was so good. I can imagine season 2 going ways: 1. All of the citizens hate mark/invincible for all the death that he and his father have caused. Even though invincible tried to save people. They all think “you’re useless! You’re the worst!” That kind of thing. 2. All the citizens respect/like him for trying. They understood how much he tried now that the story is straight. I mean, it’s not about the popularity, I just like to think about the consequences that every season finale has and is addressed in the next season. Honestly, I’m glad that mark chose to wrap up school first and then do superhero stuff.

[@playerback7722]

Like Spider-Man

[@DerpEpicFace32onXbox]

Uh buddy, Season 2 is probably gonna take from the comics like it's been doing this entire time.

[@joyfulvision]

@@DerpEpicFace32onXbox I haven’t read the comics so I don’t know. Please don’t spoil anything

[@DerpEpicFace32onXbox]

@@joyfulvision read em, they're very good

[@joyfulvision]

@@DerpEpicFace32onXbox judging from the show, they definitely seem so

[@Vixikats]

Nolan is a man born to take any punch, but with just 6 words, Mark hits him harder than he's ever been hit before and shakes him to his core, without even landing a punch.

[@Zartoo_3rd_Overlord_ofBlargon7]

That's because Mark hit him where he had zero defense. Nolan had been infected with humanity and there really was no cure.

[@stkouts]

"you dad, i'd still have you...". This boy just said to the worst man on earth that even if everyone dies he would still have him.

[@divinecrusader4258]

I wasn't thinking about the possibility of an "Everything great about Invincible", but now I want it beyond belief. Like seriously, introducing TV shows to the channel opens so many possibilities. Attack on Titan, The Boys, Invincible, hell, even less liked shows like The Walking Dead could be applied.

[@aiwash2766]

This scene was absolutely horrifying to watch, my mouth was wide open in absolute shock

[@YOUFREAKINNERD]

I love how this channel has evolved beyond what CinemaSins is still stuck doing.

[@SinHurr]

Hey They have TV Sins now

[@JulianimeIsAmazing]

I think my favorite part is actually when it flashbacks to Nolan's early family years, when he was raising Mark with Debbie and went to the ball game and you see the spark and life in his eyes as his face lights up when he's supporting his son. You can tell that everything he's saying (at least about his family) is a lie, he doesn't think of his wife as a pet, he's just smart enough to know the most reasonable logical loophole to detach himself from humanity and make it sound justifiable. We see him take an active interest and enjoyment in supporting his family and acknowledging them as his family and being there for his family, he is a good soul who was misguided by his upbringing to be able to nonchalantly commit heinous acts of murder and violence without hesitation, and it's nice to see Nolan question or outright accept his beliefs are wrong.

[@ashwinc3789]

6:20 this line just tears me up no matter how many times I hear it 😭

[@darryljack6612]

NGL i was hoping you were going to do multiple Wins videos for the whole season like with other superhero shows you have covered. But this video was still amazing and what ever works for you is great as well.

[@gabrielhermesson9926]

One detail in this scene that always gets me, is that it is the first time in the entire series that Omni-Man looks at the blood on his hands.

[@andrewrogers6667]

This content was honestly amazing! I love the reviews you do at the end of your “wins” videos and shows exactly how much you appreciate what’s on screen between writing, directing, lighting, and all other things. It is enjoyable and has taught me so much about appreciating the films I love. This miniature version reviewing and scoping it all is great and would love to see more!

[@solidust573]

Mark hit him harder with a few words than any punch he could have ever thrown. Incredible writing for this story.

[@orlando780]

"Invincible takes the subway" is an amazingly messed up name for how brutal the entire scene absolutely was

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

6:52 I dunno man, the day is saved and that face still breathes, ideals intact. I'd say he won, no matter the blood quantities.

[@sean_mccadden]

The first season of invincible was so masterfully done, especially the finale. You really feel the pain, anguish and desperation Mark feels as he’s trying to reach his dad’s inner emotions. It really tore me up to watch but when it was finally was over the relief you feel was incredible. Hopefully Robert Kirkman can keep up with this momentum and keep building from here. He’s incredibly good at creating truly shocking moments but hopefully we don’t end up desensitized with those moments like we did with the walking dead

[@thesnipingspider3852]

Oh boy I tell you that we won’t. He somehow keeps 1 upping himself every fight and action scene and it’s wonderful! I can’t wait till you see what the show has in store for season 2 cause man Angstrom Levy is a goat.

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

5:40 In the words of a simpsons character, "It's so horrifying, but I just... can't... look, away! It's like watching an orangutan swallow a hand grenade!"

[@seraphik]

oh man i only recently watched Invincible (soooo good) and i'm so glad to see CW already had a take on this. the subway scene BLEW MY MIND. plotwise, character arc wise, and sheer creative animationwise... it was just incredible. i can't even begin to articulate why this was genius, but if i tried it'd be something like this: it really felt like the culmination of an entire season's worth of gradually built-up showing-not-telling. it shows you, instead of tells you, that Omni-Man truly does not give a single fuck about all the earthlings. he's willing to use an entire train's worth of people to teach Mark a lesson. and it shows you that the lesson isn't just "i'm stronger than you" but that "we are stronger/better than them, and they do not matter. they are insignificant." and finally, it shows you that Mark's real horror in this scene isn't that his dad is beating him up (bad), or that his dad is so much stronger (worse), but that ... HE'S being forced to kill all these people simply by existing, because he truly is almost invincible compared to how soft and fragile they are. and entire oncoming train and all its contents just splashes apart because he's so tough that his very being cuts through them like a hot knife through butter. it's like driving a hot dog onto a jigsaw. and Mark's utterly traumatized expression when it's done - just a gut punch.

[@totallyhuman4013]

3:01 this... Everything after this was just pure gold.

[@will_da_man_]

I was so shocked for this scene it actually made me cry, which nothing had really ever done before. I'd never seen anything quite so disturbing in animation before.

[@tristansylvester1079]

The train scene is definitely my favorite in the show. For one it's Noland LITERALLY shoving marks superiority in his face. Or, shoving marks face into his superiority? He forces mark to confront how much..better. he is physically by making him watch as he crashes through a train. Mark's arms, held out to shield himself, ironically bisecting the people he hits you can see it very clearly multiple times. And in this moment, more than any other, Omniman does have a point. Mark just got his by a speeding train, yet he doesn't have a single scratch on him. Well, at least he doesn't have any physical scratches I could not imagine the PTSD you'd have. But like you said, just because Noland is right about their physical superiority doesn't make him correct about his views. At the end he proves that, yes, he cares about mark (and maybe his wife?) Which means yes, you can care for something even though you've only known it for a fraction of your life. By not killing mark Omniman defeats his own point by proving he's no better than the humans he deems so weak. Super excited for season two, I'm sad mark didn't get a scar on his chin from his dad splitting it open, and I'd be really interested in well.. EVERYTHING about the show but hugely interested in marks and Noland's mental States.

[@Me-ss2gq]

SO glad you chose to cover this show!!

[@itssupermandoe2434]

F*cckkkkkkk it's been almost a year since I watched invincible and hearing Mark say "you dad" just got me teary eyed all over again. I've now read all the comics and I hope they start churning it out faster cause it's incredible.

[@joshuawhitaker2913]

Yo I had no idea this was Cinemawins. I watched this video when I came out and was looking through his channel today and found out. Good video. More of this would be great.

[@_ELzY_]

I love the scene when Omni Man was training Mark, literally.

[@darkchaos5762]

You know that you are now obligated to make an “everything great about invincible” episode.

[@TheHotBlade]

It's so weird how Invincible feels like a kid's show but is NOT actually a kid's show.

[@SpecialProjectY]

At what point did it felt like a kid's show? O.o

[@jlev1028]

Just because it's animated and about superheroes doesn't mean it's for kids. Adults need to stop buying into that logic.

[@jacobprice8769]

I love stories where the first view you have is a total misconception, then you’re slowly shown reality as the characters learn more about their world

[@Test_Tube_Boi]

3:05 I think it kinda makes more sense when you realize Nolan looks at humans the way we look at ants. You don't care when you step on an ant and you'd probably flood an entire colony just to prove a point to a person that's crying simply because you killed an ant.

[@TheTheKraven]

I am so stoked that you watched this series. It's amazing and I was always hoping that you would do a cinemawins for it. You are awesome and I hope you have an awesome day Mr.Wins

[@wheelsndealz]

I think the lack of attachment is probably a way to protect themselves since like you said, immortality would make you go crazy. So in order to not go crazy you would have to be detached.

[@RRod22]

I made the mistake of watching all the way to RIGHT BEFORE the hideout scene, not knowing what was to come. I came back the next day to finish and watched the rest of the episode. It was so intense for me that I had to get up from my desk and when I got downstairs to tell my partner that I'm glad she didn't watch it with me: I fainted, unresponsive, snoring on the ground. Scary AF. Inadvertently scarring my fiancé, wont live that one down for a while...

[@randomkitty2555]

Mom: Mark, it's time for dinner. Mark: No thanks, I had subway on the way.

[@tuskoxen]

i clicked on this and did not know it was you until the end lol. love your stuff man

[@zachlewis9751]

This certainly wasn’t a video or even a show I would’ve expected to see on this channel but this was great. Everybody lost that final episode.

After watching the first season I devoured the comics and… OMG. Those moments of subversion of expectations pop from time to time when you less expect it. It’s just awesome.

[@defenderofminorities3056]

My favourite moment of this year was when my best friend called me and told me he watched the pilot and enjoyed it but there wasn’t anything too special, but he didn’t watch after the credits by accident, i told him to check it out and he called me back fucking flabbergasted, was so funny to me.

[@mas8705]

Possibly the finest example of using a Superhero’s superpower against them. Honestly, I loved this scene so much. It reminded me of the time Batman wore a belt that seemingly allowed him to not get shot. Imagine being completely bullet proof but then a stray shot bounced off you and hit someone else. That devastated Batman (even if the one shot was a lackey). Here for the train scene, it is literally using Invincible’s invincibility against him since he will be able to walk away from this, but not the innocent victims that are literally exploding on him.

[@michaeldaniels642]

2:15 he's lying there. He's lying to himself to convince himself to stay on mission. A mission that by that point he doesn't even believe in anymore because of his time on Earth with his wife and son. But, he still thinks he has to believe in it.

[@BaneDane_JB]

"SHe's more like a pet to me" This implies he's into what he considers bestiality.

[@RacingSnails64]

Not necessarily. They're clearly compatible (case in point: Mark). Besides, he says she's "more like" a pet to him, because she's disposable. Not literally a pet.

[@jlev1028]

More like miscenation

[@thatkidwiththehoodie]

@@RacingSnails64 his whole society was rooted in eugenics, dispassionately breeding to continue the empire is probably standard cultural practice for him. Presumably viltrimites can’t breed independently, and Nolan was the only one on earth, so he was probably cool with procreating with a human for practical purposes (as well as, presumably, human genetic influence having a generally low impact of the genetic “purity” of his offspring, so it wouldn’t be much of a risk for him).

[@darthbane5676]

When I was four, there was a little competition at my movie theater that was supposed to promote the release of Finding Nemo. I won the contest, and the prize was a pet goldfish. I thought the whole situation was odd, but I was happy to have a new friend. The goldfish was dead by the following morning, perhaps because he had been kept in my local movie theater for who knows how long. I don’t remember much from when I was four, but I’ll never forget the goldfish who was a part of my life for a relatively tiny and seemingly insignificant amount of time.

[@gregoreisenhorn5093]

The best thing about watching this and having read the comics is that Nolan has a fantastic arc throughout it. We also see Mark having to combat his Viltrumite temper which ultimately creates his arch-nemesis, Angstrom Levy. It's a fantastic comic, far superior to Walking Dead and worth reading if they cancel the tv show.

[@skootlebop]

I started watching this video, got 3 minutes in, thought to myself "Man this dude sounds like Cinemawins" and lo and behold it is

[@azaelthebear6697]

So... I knew invincible before the show. I knew all the events, but, even through it all, watching the show. It opened lots, the words Omni-man says to Mark hit once again, but 10x fold. The show is able to deliver with more power the comics could, not to say the comics are bad, Omni-Man's words hold more meaning, his actions hold more meaning. That is what shines for Mark as well, his humanity shines. I love Invincible so much.