Why Does Everyone Shoot SpinWings?

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[@SjefvandenBergArchery]

Totally behind this! We did indeed test a lot of vanes over a longer period of time, also in colder weather. The thing about spin wings that stood out over the rest was that they shot better mostly in the bad conditions. If you only shoot in nice weather without any wind, you can basically pick any vane you want 😁 I also agree on your other statement; the margins are extremely small between all of the vanes and if budget is a concern, picking a more durable vane isn't necessarily a bad choice, since their performance is so close. In my case, my income was dependent on shooting as precise as possible and I was willing to buy spin wings rather than get vanes for free just for the peace of mind. Lastly, the reason I always fletched the back of the vane as well is because I was fairly confident in my fletching skills and I adjusted for it with a bit more angle using custom made wraps, and in cold weather (prevalent in the Netherlands), the spin wings sometimes popped off when the glue got too cold with only the front fletched. Good info, thanks for making this!

[@ivan_zock]

Thanks Sjef you are a legend🔥

[@Excalibure666]

I use XS Vanes. Just because it's more durable. Especially if you dump the two dozen arrows in an arrow tube without sponge thingy. Spin vanes are curl up that situation.

[@mickleblade]

Because when I screw up and shoot through the clicker the arrow still hits the target! I've been using elivanes for a few years as they're loads more durable than the original spinwings

[@dermaulwurf5540]

Thanks fof this video! I noticed another thing at the Korean team. They only use white ore yellow wings. A verry good friend (and known archer) told me, that the yellow spin wings are the best at all. I like spider vanes best due to the stabillity. They win every contact with other vanes during a match.

[@nsiivola]

I think the main points are fairly uncontroversial: - Spinwings are best performing. - It is important for fletching to be perfect. - Spinwings are fragile and require a lot of maintenance. - Margins between spinwings and vanes are small. However, I'm not sure the takeaway message "just use spinwings" is so cut and dry. 1. If you're not shooting at a reasonably high level, you're not going to notice a difference between light vanes vs spinwings, or spinwings vs something spinwing'ish but slightly sturdier like the jet6's. 2. If you're maintaining your own equipment and have a limited time for archery, time spent refletching broken spinwings is time away from practising. 3. If you're not maintaining your spinwings in perfect condition, they're not going to be a benefit, but a hindrance. People not competing "seriously" are less likely to have the motivation to maintain perfect spinwings - even if they have the skill to realize their benefits and the time to do the maintenance. Such people are going to score better with vanes that stay in a good condition longer. Something shooting better doesn't mean it's the right choice for everyone. For high level competitors, people aiming to become such, and anyone who likes fletching - yes. For everyone? No.

[@UdaykumarPR]

Impeccable info with well researched & applied techniques 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Barx1963]

Spin wings have a very long history at elite level. This video ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4WlY6yofdt5pLc ) is from the 1984 LA Lympics featuring Darrell Pace and Rick McKinney (Gold and silver respectively) It is a little fuzzy, but clearly show both shooting early spin wings. They are much larger than the 1.75" versions of today. Darrell was shooting the original Easton AC arrows while Rick had gone back to I think XX75s after winning the WAC the year earlier with the ACs. The Spin Wins were much bigger as with a much heavier arrow, you needed more vane to create the spin. By '88 most archers were shooting ACEs or Bemans. This video ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoaWnatrraqti6M ) show Jay Barrs shooting with spin wings in Seoul in '88 on his ACEs. Fairly certain they were the same as the modern ones, certainly when I had the fortune to meet and shoot with Jay the following year, that is what he was shooting. Personally, cannot think of a single piece of archery equipment, as in brand and model, that has achieved this level of long term, top level use.

[@UltraMagnus382]

Thanks for the info...

[@dancom69]

Thanks for your time and video. Im a compound bow para archer (dont throw rock at me). I really enjoy watching your video. I try to apply what i can from your videos to my shooting. And also for my knowledge of archery in general. I wich compound archer would have those great videos....

[@Justrolln]

I shot Spins for Tokyo- worked out for me. I shoot Spider 1.7 ultra soft the majority of the time because they are darn close and a lot more durable…. Also- Koreans often run 120gn out front- and generally not huge draw lengths- the FOC they run must be often over 15 -20%… you don’t need much vane to correct anything at that point….

[@wanr5701]

Kind of agree. While spin wings could well contribute to the results, it still not single-handedly decides it. The whole arrow setup should be considered. 120 grains upfront is not something many will use.

[@iAllenEverest]

Not taping the back of the fletch makes sense! I used to tape the back of my spin wings but decided not to because I thought they were not designed or long enough to have tape on them.

[@akosbalint3485]

Are they put on the spin wings straight or with a little offset/skew? I am thinking about this and will try out one of the helical wings soon. Until now I used ordinary small vanes.

[@wanr5701]

In short, spin wings pushing out the envelope for performance and forgiveness, at the expense of durability. I do agree on the trade-off comments, can't have one without sacrificing the other. Personally I don't like to spend time replacing vanes at the slightest crease and/or tear, so I advocate a balanced selection; minimising the loss of performance and forgiveness, whilst maximising durability and consistency. Personally I agree with the assessment, yet I will not consider spin wings due to the upkeep needed to have it fly well.

[@dongleseon8785]

Well, for hobbyist, being guinea pig is part of fun. Also, for someone like me who really don't want to spend time on maintenance of arrows, hitting some balance between durability and precision is very attractive as I know for sure that I'll get a crease on a spin wing and I'll shrug shoulder and keep shoot it.

[@salimr4718]

How can you tell if one is SpinWings?

[@yanglai524]

Barrs in ‘88 Justin in ‘96 I don’t have an issue with durability. But I’m use to spinwings from the original. I don’t want to spend the time to do the research that’s already been done.

[@trangbachhai3881]

I just want spin wing make the tail for taping the vanes like other does. otherwise i have no complain

[@supercatinsta]

Agree

[@JamesBridges-pw7tk]

Would you recommend spinwings for archers required to shoot both short and long distances? For example, field archers or even target archers about to start the indoor season.

[@HywelOwen]

Yes. For recurve I shoot Spinwings for EVERYTHING. Target, outdoor, indoor, field.

[@dakshmalik1614]

Pls make a video on why Korean only use fivics or wia wis and why they use only normal tabs rather then axcel , ksl or something

[@Lost_Hwasal]

Jet6 vanes are close enough to spinwings to my layman eyes that i would consider them to be the same, they are the mylarish curled vanes that you tape on. Differentiated enough from hard glue on or feathers. That said i have spinwings on my current barebow setup (outdoor arrows), this is my 2nd set of arrows with spinwings and they annoy me. Fragile as you said, when you shoot at hay targets like i do passthroughs ruin them. Missing (happens when you are stringwalking at 50 yards) ruins them. Id rather get something that you can set and forget. I dont see enough of a difference for the fragility at my level. Heres my question: in the compound world, where even more levels of precision are required, they shoot hard glue on vanes. Why is recurve different?

[@mikeyb9819]

Aren’t Jet 6 vanes considered a ’spin wing’?

[@HywelOwen]

This is a great video. Some people just don't look wirh their eyes.

[@tylerm.7737]

I shoot commando style. Bare Shaft. ;-) But I've shot all and my fav are the 40mm xs wings. Spin Wings's seem to be the most fragile especially on the leading edges. Spider Vanes are a little less fragile than XS wings most durable to me anyways. But then again you gotta realize these teams (archers) probably don't fletch their own arrows, they have an arrow god for that. :-)

[@BMJArt]

Yes, I'm using white spinwings, soft and easy to damage, but it works 😊

[@hynekjitro8233]

I was using Kurly Vanes ten years. Great vanes. But now they stop to produce them anymore. So thx, I will go for Spin Wings and that's it. I am not shooting that good so I can see big difference anyway :)

[@michaltwarowski1990]

Did you ever had an issue with spinwings where they stick to each other in the quiver? If so how did you solved it?

[@chemicalmisery]

dust some talc on them, brush the rest off. removes the stickiness of exposed tape.

[@Norse-Norse]

I used baby powder for mine

[@Excalibure666]

Baby powder will remove the stick issue.

[@archaon90]

Corn starch will also work

[@supercatinsta]

It is true.. different colour.. different tolerance and durability?

[@exegesis1989]

Yes. White being the thinnest, & black the thickest... The darker the color, the thicker...

[@HywelOwen]

Yes. You should use white or yellow only.

[@peterxyz3541]

My take on high end gear or “high end gear” for 80% of archers: Our skill and consistency is NOT good enough to take advantage of the increased performance of high end gear. Paraphrasing Steve from Archery Supply of Australia “shoot more”.