Solving Exponential Equation With Radicals | Japanese Olympiad Math Question | Mathematics.

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@اممدنحمظ
@اممدنحمظ Жыл бұрын
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@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@moulikraina2186
@moulikraina2186 Жыл бұрын
Can u give more questions like this?As the question was amazing and also the way to explain .i enjoyed ur explanation
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@MunaCabdulaahi-z2e
@MunaCabdulaahi-z2e Жыл бұрын
hope see you again My teacher thanks for everthing
@hogec_enlightenmentarena6975
@hogec_enlightenmentarena6975 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks sir.
@albinonhabanga8066
@albinonhabanga8066 Жыл бұрын
I think it's very important to check first the existence conditions of some functions, as this square root, to detect non valid solutions or include in your solving Anyhow you are a beast 😎
@charlesmitchell5841
@charlesmitchell5841 Жыл бұрын
Good problem. Good explanation. Thanks for the video lesson!
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@venky3867
@venky3867 Жыл бұрын
I'm proud that I could do this in my mind
@ΔιονύσηςΤ-π5ρ
@ΔιονύσηςΤ-π5ρ Жыл бұрын
I firmly believe that either we should have restrictions for the solutions of the equation or, at least, if we ommit the restrictions we should check the solutions before we accept them.
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful comment sir. I have checked the two solutions and they are correct.
@youncheolshin6304
@youncheolshin6304 Жыл бұрын
if you put 3^x =a, 4^x=b you can rewrite the question as this : a-b= root( ab-b^2) and square each side that can be (a-b)^2 = ab-b^2 ; a^2 - 2ab + b^2 = ab-b^2 ; a^2 - 3ab + b^2 = 0 ; (a-b) (a-2b) =0 ; a-b=0 or a-2b=0 ; a=b or a=2b ; 3^x= 4^x or 3^x = 2* 4^x ; its more simple what do you think?
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Very concise sir. It is a welcome approach too. Nice work and we have learnt something new from your comment. Thanks for watching and dropping this comment too. Much respect and love to you sir...🙏🙏💕💕💕
@douglasjunior5062
@douglasjunior5062 Жыл бұрын
Eu não fazia ideia de pra onde ir 😅😅 vídeo muito bom
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@sepehrarkani6689
@sepehrarkani6689 Жыл бұрын
Excellent videos. Greatly appreciated!
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful and thank you for appreciating our little effort sir. This is encouraging. Much love💕💕💕
@sepehrarkani6689
@sepehrarkani6689 Жыл бұрын
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@danielfranca1939
@danielfranca1939 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. This is lovely sir.
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks @Daniel Franca Love you...💖💖💕💕
@StephieJoseph-io3wt
@StephieJoseph-io3wt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video sir.
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@abhijitgangopadhyay8962
@abhijitgangopadhyay8962 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@F.S.L.C.
@F.S.L.C. Жыл бұрын
WOW - THANK YOU.
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome sir. We are glad you gained some values from this tutorial sir.
@desirekouame3946
@desirekouame3946 Жыл бұрын
Congrats,bro !
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Many thanks to you for encouraging us on what we are doing sir. Respect...👍👍
@teacherheng1688
@teacherheng1688 Жыл бұрын
@BN-hy1nd
@BN-hy1nd Жыл бұрын
Hmm, I should try a graphical solution method without drawing a proper graph Sketch a graph of graph of y = 3^x -4^x . y = (12^x -16^x)^0.5 when x = 0, y=0, certainly. y will always be +ve when x is -ve. When x is positive will generate complex numbers so, by inspection, both graphs meet at x=0 and y=0 Then try x = -1, -2 and -3 ; gradually the difference in y values get smaller and smaller In an exam, this sort of question requires an approximate answer for the second value
@M.Davit613
@M.Davit613 Жыл бұрын
I solved the exercise in 2 minutes․ x
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Bravo👍👍👍 You the master👌👌👌
@M.Davit613
@M.Davit613 Жыл бұрын
@@onlineMathsTV Thank U
@HelenBlackG-xn9hf
@HelenBlackG-xn9hf 6 ай бұрын
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@sudhakaranpillai9623
@sudhakaranpillai9623 Жыл бұрын
In case 1,there is no need to go for' ln' because raised to the power 0 only gives 1
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Noted sir.
@MeinhartKöster
@MeinhartKöster Жыл бұрын
thank you very much, i suggest that the value of zero for u should be rejected, for otherwise the division by ( 3 px - 4 px) being equal to zero would not work
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
But 3 px - 4 px (i.e 1-1) will give us zero, which implies LHS = RHS. What do you think sir?
@vansf3433
@vansf3433 11 ай бұрын
It seems that you like solving children' s math-probs 3^x - 4^x = sqrt(14^x -16^x). Notice that the expression inside the radical can not be negative, but 14^x < 16^x ---> 14^x - 16^x will always be negative. There is only 1 way to neutralise the negative result is to make the expression= O. since any value taken to pwer of 0 will become 1. If x = 0, 24^0 -16^0 = 1 - 1 = 0 Checking whether x = 0 the solution: 3^0 - 4^0 = sqrt(14^0 - 16^ 0) 1 -1 = sqrt(1 - 1) 0 = 0. Hence, x = 0 is the solution We're done
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV 11 ай бұрын
Ok sir, thanks for dropping this sir. We learn everyday from the best brains all around the globe and we sincerely believe you are one of these rare genius in mathematics. Nice to have you here sir, You are most welcome master.
@sans1331
@sans1331 Жыл бұрын
3^x-4^x=sqrt(12^x-16^x) y=3^x-4^x y=sqrty*(sqrt4^x) =sqrty*2^x divide both sides by 2^x 1.5^x-2^x=sqrty=y/2^x sqrty=y/2^x 2^x=y/sqrty=sqrty square both sides y=4^x=3^x-4^x +4^x both sides 2(4^x)=4^(x+0.5)=3^x z=ln4/ln3 [3^z=4] (3^z)^(x+.5)=3^x x=zx+0.5z *x both sides x^2=zx^2+.5zx -x^2 both sides (z-1)x^2+0.5zx=0 [1 rough quadratic formula later] x=(-0.5(ln4/ln3))/((ln4/ln3)-1) =-ln4/((2ln3)((ln4/ln3)-1) (2ln3)((ln4/ln3)-1)=((2ln3*ln4)/ln3)-2ln3 =2ln4-2ln3 =>x=-ln4/(2(ln4-ln3)) …and also x=0. edit: oh wow, different fractions yet the same constant
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Wonderful and unique move. You are good at it sir, you the master here. Respect👌👌👌
@youncheolshin6304
@youncheolshin6304 Жыл бұрын
how about 0 or 1/{ log2 (3) - 2}
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement sir. We love you for watching and commenting sir. Much love 💕💕💖💖
@tunneloflight
@tunneloflight 11 ай бұрын
This also has the advantage that many calculators natively perform lg2, so x = 1 / (lg2(3) -2) is trivial to calculate. In RPN: 3 ; lg2 ; 2 ; - ; 1/x. {five keystrokes}
@SASS-yp8gu
@SASS-yp8gu Жыл бұрын
X не может быть равен "0", так как -1 не равно sqrt(-1)
@petermak3980
@petermak3980 Жыл бұрын
You must set 3^x--4^x>=0 ...... x
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
noted sir. Thanks master.🙏🙏🙏
@loveharshvardhan4259
@loveharshvardhan4259 Жыл бұрын
Only one to notice. Hats off
@FractAlkemist
@FractAlkemist Жыл бұрын
I tried my Genetic Algorithm with this; 'x' must be a negative number, and it needn't be an integer. There seems to be no real solution, the greater the (negative) number, the closer it gets. I scanned from 0-> -500 and the best I got was: X = -481.58408788993336 Left side evaluates to: 1.6826575283911937e-230 Right side evaluates to: zero (probably not real zero, the computer just doesn't display such a small number) Difference = 1.6826575283911937e-230 , effectively solving the equation (for engineers, not theoreticians!) (plus overflow errors and other Python squawking) Maybe I should watch the video ...... .
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Smiles....nice work from you boss. But most times AI fails to give the actual result to a mathematical challenge. I believe you have watched the video sir. Did you agree with the approach I applied here? I made a video on a similar challenge with a different approach. Below is the link to that video, you can as well flip through it to check it out if you don't mind sir. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpS6m59ra5ZpprM And do not hesitate to make corrections where necessary because we are here to also learn from the best brains like you all around the world. Thanking in advance boss!!! Respect!!! 👍👍👍 Much love....❤️❤️
@vicferrmat4492
@vicferrmat4492 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean "generic" algorithm?
@honey-qqq
@honey-qqq Жыл бұрын
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@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
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@marjaentrich7121
@marjaentrich7121 Жыл бұрын
Выражение под корнем должно быть не меньше нуля. Те, когда возаодили корень в квадрат, должны были получить модуль и нужно рассмотреть 2 случая
@syedmdabid7191
@syedmdabid7191 Жыл бұрын
What's is the meaning of Wn( 2) ?????
@brightjovanny
@brightjovanny Жыл бұрын
Wn(z) is generally called the Lambert W function (or omega function or productlog) where the subscript n (an integer) represents the principal, positive or negative branch of the function with n = 0 being the principal branch. The Lambert W function is the inverse of the function: f(w) = we^w where w is any complex number and e^w is the exponential function. The function can also be written as: LambertW(n,z) ProductLog(n,z)
@mahinofficial4671
@mahinofficial4671 Жыл бұрын
If we use log instead of using ln ,then what will happen
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
same result sir.
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 Жыл бұрын
Using logs to the base of 10, we can fill in the numbers (the logarithms of 2, 3 and 4, which are 0.3010, 0.4771 and 0.6020) from memory and then calculate the quotient by hand. I don't have natural logs in memory.
@AloneStroller
@AloneStroller Жыл бұрын
I disagree with x2 solition - it is superfluous as we should use straight definition of logarithm: X2=log(3/4)2. log(a)b.
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
not too clear with your point here sir.
@s.h.munasingha2590
@s.h.munasingha2590 Жыл бұрын
,X= log( 3/4 ) 2
@ChristelleHilaire-lb6pu
@ChristelleHilaire-lb6pu Жыл бұрын
×=-3
@ilyashick3178
@ilyashick3178 Жыл бұрын
ln 1 is equal 0 so x1=0
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Yap
@РавильГарифуллин-щ5ж
@РавильГарифуллин-щ5ж 3 ай бұрын
Ответ--6
@shoshosalah3447
@shoshosalah3447 Жыл бұрын
X1=0 X2~ -2.41
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Bravo 👍👍👍 You the best sir.
@johnwren6138
@johnwren6138 Жыл бұрын
Easier to go m log7=log70
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Bravo 👍👍👍 You the best sir.
@MathsTuitionBangla
@MathsTuitionBangla Жыл бұрын
Hello students
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Hi master!!! Anything for the student/s? We are at your service as your wish is our command sir.
@DilaverHamzayeva-fs6fg
@DilaverHamzayeva-fs6fg 8 ай бұрын
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@유도겸-i2i
@유도겸-i2i Жыл бұрын
빙빙 돌아가며 풀이해 지친다.. 무조건 자연로그로만 푸니 듣기가 힘듬
@loveharshvardhan4259
@loveharshvardhan4259 Жыл бұрын
In this video, the respected teacher is attempting to divide by zero, the value for which remains undefined and unknown. Thereby, his method is wrong.
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV Жыл бұрын
Sir, are you of the opinion that zero as a root to this math challenge is wrong? Kindly do the simple substitution and check if an undefined expression will emerge in this math challenge sir. Thanking you for a positive response in advance.
@nasrullahhusnan2289
@nasrullahhusnan2289 Жыл бұрын
I think there is no division by zero. In [(3^x)-(4^x)]²=(4^x)[(3^x)-(4^x)] the teacher didn't divide the equation by (3^x)-(4^x), rather he let (3^x)-(4^x)=u and then move all terms to one side. Directly moving all terms to one side follow by factorizing we get [(3^x)-(4^x)][{(3^x)-(4^x)}-(4^x)]=0 [(3^x)-(4^x)][(3^x)-2(4^x)]=0 Hence: • (3^x)-(4^x)=0 --> x=0 • (3^x)-2(4^x)=0 --> (¾)^x=2 NO DIVISION BY ZERO
@Bertin-q3y
@Bertin-q3y 10 ай бұрын
X=0
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV 10 ай бұрын
Correct boss, but that is just one of the solutions. Thanks for stopping by sir. Much love.
@JohanNgoko
@JohanNgoko Жыл бұрын
I already see 0 as solution 😅
@himnishdhiman1370
@himnishdhiman1370 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but thats only one solution!!
@vansf3433
@vansf3433 11 ай бұрын
You don't have to copy all such lengthy steps of human -invented motions of algebra to arrive at the correct answer Again, logical reasoning can help you solve all sorts of problems, but not copying such lengthy formulas and steps, like a photocopying machine
@onlineMathsTV
@onlineMathsTV 11 ай бұрын
Noted and thanks sir.
@sobolzeev
@sobolzeev Жыл бұрын
I wonder who is meant as the audience of this piece. A general mediocre pupil will not get even this long and overworded explanation. A bit developed one (1) does not need 2/3 of this wording, (2) guesses x=0 is a solution in the first 30 seconds, by substitution, (3) since a square root from a negative number is not real, gets any other root is negative. Finaly, 3^x = 4^(x+1/2) can be trivially solved with much less wording.
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