Judge Hoffman Infuriating CPS Case

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[@Fern635]

The CASA worker speaks for all of us. Good job, Ms. Goehmann.

[@sharonbroadbent8138]

I'm glad that Lisa Goehmann, called them out for being next to each other on the couch. These children deserve to be safe.

[@user-ec3pc1lu3l]

me too! (:

[@Skincareslug]

I can't believe the parents are right next to each other in the same house!! They should both have their parental rights taken immediately!!!!

[@Blessed241]

They look like brother and sister!

[@Saidwhatisaid88]

Yep

[@chickychick126]

Agree!!

[@kristinmichelleyt]

Right?? She’s answering yes to all of these things that he did to her and apparently thinks it’s totally fine? Chances are she wont get her kids back without proof that they aren’t together. And CPS usually finds out lol. I was a visit supervisor and dropped the dime on a number of bio parents who were together but saying they weren’t.

[@corinnem]

I love how straight forward the guardian at litem was. She’s not pulling punches.

[@NopeJustMe]

She made it 7 fxcking days after FBS before she whipped her son. Now she lost her son, and OF COURSE CPS is worried about leaving the daughter. Why is the Judge doing the lawyers job? If he is unable to ask an articulate question that is his problem

[@NopeJustMe]

The mother had the child 7 days before she had the next DV/SA incident. This is ridiculous.

[@DevilOnlyKnitsLace]

The daughter is learning that the most important THING in a woman's life is a MAN. Lose custody of your older child to their father, go through CPS services, get a new apartment- then move your abuser in! Next, protect him at the expense of your daughter having to go live with extended family. SMH.

[@valbailey5983]

The parents seem to be slow. Their attorney is the worst. He brought absolutely nothing to his client's credibility.

[@bancatorres2455]

I hope that was the point

[@4everloved142]

@@bancatorres2455Exactly. You have to defend your client with the best you have even if it’s nothing… you don’t want them to come back saying you didn’t defend them properly and the case starts over or it delays judgement

[@kimlerner389]

Attorney Taylor doesn't know how to formulate questions

[@kimlerner389]

@@loosie5224 I'm very sorry to hear that. Would you be able to share the link to the article?

[@rozpillay6522]

If you need to use corporal punishment on your children YOU LOST CONTROL a long time ago. If it comes that far YOU step away and cool down and come back and engage with your child wrt their behavior. There is NO need for corporal punishment!

[@robynxenis]

It’s WILD to me when parents say they don’t spank when angry. So as an adult you’re saying you stepped away, took a breath and calmed down, and THEN decided to hit your child?

[@jordanplans4611]

This hearing was so focused on the spanking that it was just ridiculous. They should have heavily focused on the assault perpetrated on the mother and the fact she continues to go back to him. Once that AH moved back in they should have been removing those kids then!

[@jordanplans4611]

Side note I really like this judge.

[@leeann142001]

but you see that is what cps does, they focus in on the littlest of things and blow it up but when a person actually needs help or resources, they don't really care

[@heather1387]

I will never understand why it is alright with some people to give corporal punishment to a child but you cannot do the same thing to any other person. I.e. Domestic Violence classes. If you cannot do it to another partner or person why should the most vulnerable among us. That lawyer Taylor is horrible.

[@OnTropolis]

Too many adults don't consider children to be people. Like actual people with human rights like the rest of us

[@elainetoohey3892]

Her minimizing and blaming a 4 year for HER ABUSE is disgusting

[@WickedWitchOfWestMI]

Clearly there's SIGNIFICANT danger. The fact that they just got finished with an fbs case throughout which they were required to do parenting classes that DID NOT SINK IN, OBVIOUSLY!!!!!! Ugh.🤬🤬🤬🤬 This case is beyond frustrating.

[@susandodder1664]

They're sitting on the same couch. Horrible excuse for parents!

[@Reliance1340]

The fact that the judge has to re-ask the questions for the parents’ lawyer tells me he’s not a good lawyer.

[@hallowedbethymelancholy8299]

I'm NGL there were parts where he was slurring & seemed potentially drunk to me. 101:55 for example.

[@user-ku1eu8ck8z]

He is too old to be an effective lawyer anymore IMO

[@makenziecely]

Why isn’t anyone on zoom commenting on the fact that they are clearly in the same home? I would think that the judge would take issue with the parents sitting in the same room, living in the same home, after two separate fbs SA/DV cases… I’m only part way through, so I might have my questioned answered at some point. Also, mr Taylor is incredibly rude, and seriously needs to take steps to re learn how to ask specific, concise questions. He rambles, continuously utilizes cross as a time to make statements, and he clearly displays his disdain for many of these workers. Mom can’t file multiple severe SA/Assaults from her partner, then expect the department to feel comfortable leaving two small children in the home. It’s him, or the kids. There really is no other safe path forward.

[@OnTropolis]

They knew. Before calling the case there was feedback because they were next to each other. They had to mute one of them because of it. I can't believe they didn't get into the fact that they're literally violating the no contact order. I understand they were asking to lift it, but you'd think they'd pretend to wait until it's been lifted lol

[@makenziecely]

I didn’t have much background information on the case, so I appreciate you replying with the extra details. It’s kind of sad that they are only really concerned about the spanking (the belt spanking is completely ridiculous-I could understand if she thought over the clothing swatting was okay, but no parent should need to be told not to hit their kid with a belt), but seem to find the sexual assault and violence as issues that are fixable with a few classes. The kids were present, I really don’t think there is any way to come back from that traumatic situation. It’s incredibly unfortunate that she chose to continue a relationship with an abuser, over doing everything possible to keep her children in her care. The casa worker Goehman couldn’t have been more blunt and honest in her assessment of the dangers in sending the children back into the present home environment.

[@hallowedbethymelancholy8299]

The Guardian Ad Litem calls it out just after 101:52. She gave no fxcks.

[@MkE1121]

I really hate it when lawyers who work in family law (divorce/custody) or criminal courts enter the child welfare arena - they don't understand the laws - and they don't understand policy and procedures, and they certainly don't understand the processes. Taylor Law Firm clearly doesn't understand how systems work

[@MkE1121]

One of the reasons for removal is that the abuse is likely or immanent. This allows us to protect other children in the home aside from the child in question.

[@kristiclaw7303]

This lawyer makes himself look like an idiot! He clearly doesn’t give a shit about the kids, he wants to win his case.

[@jessicacook5722]

@@MkE1121- which is how a lot of states work. But others don’t. They only remove the child involved. I think it’s ridiculous to assume that any other child is safe when there’s proof that one child wasn’t.

[@marciamartin5559]

This judge is very good. Takes control and DOES something, he isn’t wishie washie

[@momsterzz]

A new to me judge. I like how he doesn’t let the attorneys go on & on with superfluous questioning & arguments.

[@motherformerlyknownascoope883]

New to me too. I like him so far

[@NicoleAustin-lb7bz]

They should lose their rights completely if she went back to him after her son witnessed all that. If she won’t protect them she doesn’t deserve them.

[@tamaraperras9853]

Interesting case. Can't wait for new updates.

[@jenhoffa2499]

I hope rhey get counseling for those children!! I'm horrified to think what goes through his thoughts!! I'm dumbfounded that nobody equated his behavior problems to what he's witnessed!

[@apurpleduckie]

This case should have been shut after the mother admitted that the father horrifically assaulted her on THE DAUGHTER'S BED!!!!!! WHO DOES THAT?!?! No, the child should NEVER be returned to a home where violent SA is taking place in a TODDLER'S ROOM! I don't care how many they take and how well they do at them, there are NO classes that can fix that or make that safe.

[@donna-leeking9014]

They certainly hired the WRONG LAWYER! he was a mess

[@lisajeter9511]

She just got arrested for assaulting him and it’s the best her marriage has ever been? OMG!

[@lorrainemiller688]

Jasmine assaulted, Louis assaulted, son assaulted, yeah, go ahead and return the daughter because there's no reason to fear anything would happen. The parent's lawyer is an old school fool.

[@dorisannebrown5959]

Wow that lawyer Taylor is absolutely Infuriating, how can he argue to risk putting children back in an abusive home. Shame on him. I wonder if he would be so condescending if he had to defend them for killing one of their children. There are so many video's of children that have been starved, tortured and beaten to death by their parents. Makes my blood boil. There is something So Satisfying about watching these video's and to see a Judge like Hofman see right through them and spell it all out as it is!!

[@debbiesteffen448]

Love this judge. He is so upfront with parents about what they need and is at the same time pushing cps to get it done so the kids can be back home. I really really hope parents can make a shift in their mentality so they can raise the children without violence in the house.

[@kbforme]

You think the guy who beats and sexually assaults his wife in front of their kids is going to change with some parenting classes? Why would he change when his wife covers for him at every turn? The mom took classes and she moved her abuser in the very first second she was able to.

[@LoveHeatherHeadly]

I agree with everything but the last sentence. Both these parents need their rights temporarily taken immediately !!!

[@WickedWitchOfWestMI]

Ummm. Side Note.... They're in the same freaking room!!!!

[@DevilOnlyKnitsLace]

The curtains and couch was a dead giveaway!

[@paigewilson7893]

Right??!!!

[@sandrablosser9888]

Mr. Taylor, get a clue. When the judge has to interpret your questions, you are an inept attorney.

[@meesh6257]

@sandra he had a stroke shortly after this and had to take leave. I’m guessing that’s why he was struggling so much, he was sick and didn’t know

[@platedlizard]

oh the rest know. that's probably part of the reason they're removing the kids

[@user-do8ue9un9v]

I was curious to see if Dad would admit to sa or dv against Mom but he never even had to open his mouth, smh

[@jinny13]

This judge is great! He is straight to the point and really wants others to get to the point. I love how he called the parents out but also how he is pushing for the correct and appropriate level of services. He basically said “classes aren’t teaching them shit! So let’s get them all the intense help they need so we can help these children in either direction!”

[@sherryelkins5270]

Ms.Geohman and Ms.Keenum and Ms.Moore,,,you rock !!🤘

[@user-vs4cv3fc3k]

I am a CPS Investigator in the UK. Ms. C. Erickson’s haughty and sarcastic tone of voice and inappropriate facial expressions are very telling. If she behaved like that before the judge counsel and her supervisor; just imagine how she treated the family.

[@Baird3711]

I noticed that too. I think they may have overstepped in this situation.

[@berryknobberry2465]

​@@Baird3711you think it was an overstep to remove children who were physically present while their father graped and beat their mom? While she also was physically assaulting her son and leaving injuries? She did 7 months of parenting classes and monitored parenting and less than a week after those classes ended she was right back under investigation for DV in the home again. I don't think any of that is acceptable for children to be around. If mom leaves dad, maybe she can get her shit together and get her children back. Have to choose them over that man. Hard for some women to do.

[@Sara-bv9ui]

CPS is so unprofessional in these hearings. The judge seems to be annoyed with CPS too.

[@Baird3711]

@@berryknobberry2465 90% of CPS cases are unfounded. I feel like this case worker is purposely making it very difficult if not impossible to reunite this family. The children that need help seem to fall through the cracks while they focus on families that may not be perfect but don’t deserve to be put through this.

[@OnTropolis]

@allisonnicole5999 doubting your stats. Citation? As if these parents aren't a danger and a huge problem ugh

[@ditackett]

Sounds like the judge should be the parents attorney

[@poppy-anne92]

Im 40 minutes in and i think honestly i am going to have to skip part the parent's lawyer's part 🥴 He is not only difficult to listen to because he can't produce an actual sentence. I'm not sure who he is making these statement questions to ? there is no jury 🤦🏼‍♀️ all he is doing is annoying everyone, me included 😒

[@jessicastrohl3512]

Shortly after this hearing, he had a stroke and he is hospitalized. Maybe that was the reason. I’m not sure, though. There was a news article about it.

[@poppy-anne92]

@@jessicastrohl3512 Ohh did he, that's awful to hear. I hope he has a speedy and full recovery ! It could be why he was having issues with the putting the sentences together, If that is the case I would apologise for my comment about that part. I would say the making his arguments/statements whilst supposedly asking questions is most likely because he has been in criminal law at some point and/or still is. It's the wrong court to do that and was so irritating to watch 🤦🏼‍♀️ I do truly hope he is okay though, Thank you for sharing that information 🙏 I hope you amd your family have a Very Merry Christmas tomorrow 🎄

[@kayvee9094]

Mr. Taylor, spit it out already. We're growing old here.

[@betterbetty3542]

Every time the judge asked Mr. Taylor if he had questions I just sighed and tried to compose myself… he’s infuriating.

[@drewlawlor6992]

He’s a hack!! And why is the judge helping him along??

[@maryhain4205]

Cps ms Erickson needs to keep a professional face! She smirks, shakes her head and looks triumphant when mom is being questioned. Makes her look like she is enjoying herself and is against the mom instead of for the children.

[@kellyredinger5974]

Absolutely agree!!!

[@ldegraaf]

With that kind of attitude from CPS while in front of the judge can you imagine how she behaves when she is talking alone with the parents?!? There are so many of these cases where the parents are accused of getting mad at CPS and sometimes I really wonder if they are being purposely triggered. I'm not saying that it is right to blow up, but each of us has a breaking point. Personally, I know that I have a ton of patience with kids even when they are misbehaving, because they are learning, but when an adult, who knows better purposefully triggers me my fuse is much shorter.

[@Baird3711]

I agree. It’s not uncommon for these cps case workers to have a God complex. Things need to change. It’s not being carried out properly.

[@jsthecat]

Corporal punishment is so archaic, it doesn't teach a child anything exept violence. If an adult beats up/spank another adult it's an assault and it attracts criminal charges. Why is it ok to assault the most vulnerable, i.e., children with impunity. And, who da F leaves a child in a corner all afternoon. This mother is not fit to have children in her care. This makes me so angry. To help children manage their emotions and behave in developmentally appropriate manner you form deep connections and secure relationships with your child, you adapt the environment etc.

[@bonniemorris8704]

This is a terrible example of not good parents and CPS trying to PROTECT those kids. Mr.Taylor infuriates me, and Those kids need protection!!!!!!

[@hallowedbethymelancholy8299]

101:52 "She's sitting right next to him on the couch. That's my evidence." I love this CASA Gaurdian Ad Litem, she's saying what everyone was thinking. I swear the Judge was holding back a smile because she called them out with no fxcks to give.

[@adriedrake8605]

As a mother this angers me!! I am completely against corporal punishment! It is cruel!! It teaches children that hitting is okay. Re- direction, and nuture is effective. They don't understand why mommy is hitting them. It's so terribly sad.😢 clearly it's a dangerous home with domestic violence.

[@OnTropolis]

I'll never understand people who believe it's ok. We're teaching kids that if we don't like someone's behavior we hurt them. Then wonder why they're aggressive. Children who comply out of fear and intimidation are broken souls. There's no respect earned or understanding of why their behaviour wasn't ok

[@PlanwithKaye]

This child is FOUR!!! a belt??? And she is saying months ago so when he was three??? Disgusting!!! No age is appropriate for a belt or any weapon to be used to hit a child but omg so young!

[@loosie5224]

And her family members tell her that she is not beating him hard enough, that's why he doesn't listen to him ??? What a family, get these kids away from them before their childhood determines their future in a very bad way

[@corinnem]

These attorneys need to ask better questions.

[@lynnjones5490]

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[@TammyMatthias]

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[@veevee7317]

Taylor needs judge to ask his questions. Not a very good attorney.

[@lovekyds]

47:03 keeping a kid in a corner all day doesn’t fix aggression… Ugg

[@GayleSwindell]

Some judges would send LEOs to arrest the person ignoring the TRO.

[@tashamoore7772]

Fighting for their kids to be returned to them, after a DV/SA instance had occurred in the house with the kids, but they are in the same damn house?!?

[@lisajeter9511]

I wouldn’t allow the child back because the abuser is also in the house.

[@lisajeter9511]

I think Deborah Keen is the one wanting the kids removed. She is the most vocal about it.

[@COREcasual]

Mom's lawyer is kind of a dingus. And mom looks so smug

[@hhunstad2011]

Come on mom..... why the hell do you think your child is like that!!!

[@jmw3581]

I watched the mom's face at the end when the judge was speaking. I feel like she was already planning what to say foe the next time.

[@lindawithem8130]

How about a mental evaluation for the Parents and some jail time for mom for beating her son...

[@lisajeter9511]

This attorney doesn’t get to down play abuse via calling it spanking.

[@lovekyds]

Choosing a man over the kids

[@loosie5224]

a man who physically and s / a her with kids in the home. 😠

[@Hezabelle77]

I don't know whether I'm shouting about the same things as others, but that defense lawyer is infuriating! 'There's no evidence the child is in danger, oh other than the abuse to the other siblings.' I'm sorry, Sir... WHAT?!

[@lisajeter9511]

Hell yeah they will pick and choose or should I say when they remember or forget!

[@deannahirrell8294]

Yes she a fool for staying with him after what he done. She need to get rid off him and get her kids. Also the court are quick to child abuse kids will be kids

[@berryknobberry2465]

This lawyer is so out of line. He needs to learn the role of CPS is to prevent serious injury to children before it happens? Not to punish parents AFTER seriously injuring the child.

[@NicoleAustin-lb7bz]

It’s crazy that no one brought up how insane it used to be that she has her kids around an abuser except one person toward the very end.

[@LoveHeatherHeadly]

We need more ppl like Lisa Goehmann YOU’RE AMAZING AND WE APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU’RE DOING FOR THESE KIDS! I also notice the case worker Wendy laughed at the mother joke when she said they could move in the extra bedroom, that didn’t sit well with me. I feel like this is a circus and the only acts are the parents and their lawyer!!!

[@Justaskme781]

Please don't wait until they come in through the emergency room or morgue

[@lisajeter9511]

Once CPS gets their claws into you, you’re doomed but don’t do anything when it comes to the kids that are truly being abused!

[@teddiev2720]

I cannot believe Mr. Taylor the lawyer’s asinine reasoning that the little girl should not be taken away too. More than likely if they are abusing their son, they are abusing their little girl. And I can’t believe Ms Solomon is still with Mr. Davila after he physically beat and sexually abused her and even worse in front of of her children. And I agree I think Ms. Solomon lied.

[@lisajeter9511]

It doesn’t matter what Levi was doing! You don’t physically assault your child regardless!

[@TW-kx6dl]

The kids should be recorded not written on paper what they said

[@lindawithem8130]

I would not leave Jasmin in charge of a any child... Leaving marks and bruises on a four year old is unacceptable, After going through services, she clearly knew not to spank... Jasmin is full of rage and should not be trusted with those that can not defend their selves...

[@elainetoohey3892]

Belting a 4 year old is not a spanking

[@lovekyds]

1:00:18 they hit each other because They get hit

[@lisajeter9511]

I keep forgetting we’re talking about a 4 yr old boy.

[@charlottesweb2812]

I stopped watching the first second I saw who the judge was. He always comes across as arrogant in his decisions/judgements when in fact, he's not very bright.

[@Nosillamp]

I’m only like 20 mins in but it looks like the parents are in the same house-same gray paint-same red curtains….

[@sandeeclingerman2992]

They are! Curtains are red and fake leather couch...

[@beththompson2188]

Those cps workers look spent. 😔

[@jaiyiddah]

I really hope the parents aren’t paying their lawyer bcuz he’s awful. His clients are abusers and dad has SA the mom in front of the child. These ppl never need their children bcuz the kids aren’t safe. The mom is too simple to see she’s in danger

[@ksbutterfly1475]

Taylor is sooooooo boring and I feel like he doesn’t know what he’s doing. That’s the most annoying part of this video. His questioning feels so mundane

[@justanothersmith6012]

Why can’t they place with dad as fictive kin until he is legitimated ? If he’s an appropriate placement, of course, but the kids have lived with him.

[@Strawn149]

Why is he not in prison for the SA

[@platedlizard]

she probably is refusing to testify against him in court

[@moeB0704]

I don’t know this whole case but why is the husband/bf not in jail for SA and assaulting her?

[@kayvee9094]

Christine Erickson looks very unprofessional. She appears to be a right warrior.

[@lindawithem8130]

Devil Lawyer, seems to think it is okay to beat a child and leave bruises....

[@valerie362]

Oooooooh! The mom makes me furious! Blaming a kid at school for her 4 year old hitting and cussing, when the whole reason CPS is involved is physical and sexual assaults happen in their home.

[@lisajeter9511]

But the mom lied, so how could they trust her from now on.

[@TW-kx6dl]

Are you kidding me doesn’t the judge think he would swear if his kids were gona be taken

[@destinysmall3176]

An investigator has to inform the parent why they are at the house, doing an investigation and want to speak to children, atleast in MA. That being said I think the biggest thing that being over looked in the SA and Abuse charges!

[@magi267]

Spanked with a belt, is not spanked. That is beating...and not appropriate.

[@ONeil-S.D]

Exactly 💯 % it drives me crazy when people say I just spank them with a belt. No you don't spank with a belt, you beat with a belt. You spanked with a hand.

[@bethhayes8427]

The bible tells you not to use your hand. So what do you think they should use. My now older grown children got spanked with a belt and turned in to great responsible adults with good jobs and well mannered kids that are now pretty much grown. All this wimpy and nonexisting discipline is why todays world is in such a mess. Our schools are a joke and full of bullies because of no parental discipline.

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

@ 0:40:25 -- It's a fair position to have, that corporal punishment shouldn't be permitted, but it's not a good argument that it would be a crime if done to an adult. "Grounding" an adult would be kidnapping/false imprisonment (depending on your jurisdiction), taking their phone away would be theft, and making them do chores as punishment without due process would be slavery. Parents regularly restrict freedoms of speech, assembly, movement, and religion. And we expect them to. Ninety-five percent of parenting would be a crime if done to an adult, just as 95% of the obligations we impose on parents of children would be illegal to impose between two adults.

[@OnTropolis]

No, grounding is removing a privilege for recreation. Children don't own their phones or devices provided by parents. Chores are a contribution to your environment which adults are expected to do. Hitting a child to prove a point is criminal as it is to hit an adult. Children have no rights as human beings they're treated as property. Just like we'd never force a DV victim to go back and live with their abuser because they "did services" and got better... It's disgusting what children have to do in the name of a parent's Rights

[@user-do8ue9un9v]

Why hasn't anybody noticed the background of his and her is the same curtain n couch

[@ShilasSpellboundCreations]

48:38 omg I’m seeing red! Blaming a little boy with autism versus your abusive, r@pist boyfriend you keep in the home? 🤬. I have a little boy with autism and that angers me to my core.

[@ShilasSpellboundCreations]

48:37 “normal behavior for a normal kid” wtf?! 🤬 ignorant woman

[@lisajeter9511]

You don’t wait until the child has been beaten to make a decision about her parenting style. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Now that’s a FACT!

[@betterbetty3542]

Mr. Taylor just isn’t a good lawyer…

[@heatherking8689]

Wonder if this is a new record? 7 days. .

[@platedlizard]

i've heard of faster, in cases were the child ended up dead

[@TW-kx6dl]

The one cps worker needs to stop smirking the one who was on the same family members case

[@rachel8622]

I would love if you could include info on who is who in the video description. Just a request?

[@robynxenis]

Bruises are not injury. Wild.

[@terriwilson4984]

They are in the same room, look at the drapes & Paint color!!!!!

[@OnTropolis]

Oh they were. They didn't even pretend. In between off the record they had to be asked to move away from each other because they were causing feedback both being in one room and connected to seperate devices

[@jennifermayerloftus1199]

I noticed this right away. Paint color first then the back of the couch and at later you can see the same red curtains behind mom that are in dads background. He seems older, and she seems really young. I feel for her and believe she's a victim. That's no excuse to harm your child(ren). She needs help to get away from him, period. The fact that she went back tells me all I need to know. There's no way her judgment can be trusted on that basis alone. Unfortunately, that's the most basic reason her kids are not safe in her care, even if she didn't use corporal punishment. She needs lengthy and intense trauma therapy.

[@lisajeter9511]

I’m not a fan of corporal punishment, but is it against the law?

[@AW-eu5xh]

I cannot BELIEVE that CPS took this woman's kids after she was a VICTIM 😮