OOPS: Local News TELLS THE TRUTH About Luigi Mangione | The Kyle Kulinski Show

[@namredips8594]

Why is it not considered medical malpractice for people without medical degrees to be making medical decisions?

[@jermainemyrn19]

Because of corruption

[@willbunch01]

It is I believe. They arent making medical decisions, they’re just not paying for procedures. Functionally the same thing though

[@terrymckenzie8786]

In my country the minister of health was a used car salesman. True story.

[@SixStringHarmonies]

Ah, good question. This is why these insurance companies pay their own in-house doctors to "review" certain claims. Naturally, any one of these doctors that approve even 30% of claims will soon find themselves looking for new jobs.

[@mystbunnygaming1449]

The same reason it's a battle to call loot boxes gambling. They just put extra steps between them and the crime.

[@shaunm3206]

As someone said : it’s not a left or right thing it’s an up and down thing. Decades of peaceful protests achieved nothing. This one act has changed all that.

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

What did they says about the result if peacefull protest arent heard?

[@shaunm3206]

@ peaceful protests are heard. They’re just not acted on by the people who can make the changes. And those people are the people with money and power.

[@djinnxx7050]

Occupy got to close to the sun, so to speak, that's when the whole identity politics started being pushed hard to not only further divide political opposites, but also set a rift in the left itself.

[@Wraiven22]

I think that saying is helpful in getting partisan people to listen and have class consciousness, but at the same time it IS a left thing. We’ve been fighting for single payer universal healthcare for several decades. The right wing plan is to let corporations (the “free market”) run wild.

[@shaunm3206]

@Wraiven22 there you go falling into the left right thing again. This is an issue where common ground can be found from both sides. Democrats take money from health corporations just as much as Republicans. The thought of ordinary American people coming together on this issue terrifies Dems and Republicans alike.

[@carolempie114]

My daughter has had 3 different types of cancer and has been cancer free for awhile…3 of her doctors want her to get a PET scan and it is being denied by her insurance for this STANDARD procedure. She is 52 and her youngest child is 13. She’s worked forever and has a great job …’good’ insurance and now this. If she dies… someone will ‘pay’. I’m 72 and will gladly give my life for her and for JUSTICE. Enough is enough. Our POLITICIANS are responsible too. I hope Luigi gets freed. ❣️

[@user-br4qp4pw2o]

Your politicians are ok with it 'couse their arent subjicated to the same malpractices as ordinary citizens! *sorry for bad english

[@ThatArtChic]

I'm so sorry your family is dealing with all that. I work in Oncology and fighting for PET CT scans is an ongoing battle we have. What is interesting is the insurance company denying the PET scan tells us that based on state guidelines, the patient doesn't qualify and needs a series of other scans that must state on the scan report that a PET CT is recommended for further evaluation. Basically stating that a regular CT scan can't provide the necessary information the doctor needs to treat the patient. Yet other insurance companies that also have to "folllow the state guidelines" approves PET scans all the time for patients with a history of cancer. We encourage our patients with difficult insurance to consider changing to a different plan. I know that's not always possible for people in other states or in other circumstances. If it is an option, I recommend asking your doctor (oncologist if it's issues with coverage for cancer related care) "which insurance do they have least problems with coverage or authorizations." Because we in healthcare are not supposed to recommend a specific insurance, we wouldn't be able to say "You should change to this insurance." But a general question of which insurances do you take and which are easiest to obtain authorizations would be sufficient for us to answer. At least in my office.

[@dianahahnacuna1227]

Can she get it in a private hospital in Mexico? It will not be a tenth of what it costs in USA. In Europe will be cheaper too but it is too far for you. Wishing you the best.

[@DoomKid]

You shouldn't have to do this, but I seriously agree with the guy advising you to try it in Mexico, if you can get there cheaply.. Really sorry for your daughter. These current institutions will be crumbling soon... I just hope it's in time for you and yours!

[@lanceowen-ce7mq]

I may be misinformed but companies like UHC purchased a high (mega bucks) end AI medical decision program to make or calculate insurance approval/deny decisions for coverage. We all know anything electrical can be manipulated or skewed to a favorable or unfavorable decision. Would UHC’s this tech software company also be responsible for bad medical decisions for patients? Technology has no empathy on human beings, it’s better at calculating profit/loss decisions than saving lives. Would be interested to see if this will covered doing his trial & see a insanity plea.

[@annasz4321]

Free Luigi!!❤❤❤from Poland

[@aboucard93]

Someone recently said we pay state tax, federal tax, we pay for health insurance and we pay co-pay plus out of pocket cost. This is insane to most people around the world

[@ace448]

So in conversations with conservatives I’ve started referring to insurance costs as a tax. I then point out that profit is waste for a tax.

[@windycityliz7711]

It's "insane" to people who live in countries with a strong welfare state. That's not most people" by a long shot. Billions of people lack basic healthcare because they live in poor and/or corrupt countries.

[@boingodoingo1930]

​​@@windycityliz7711 way to make a distinction without a point. Yeah, in poor countries that can't afford universal health care, they're not surprised their country doesn't have universal health care. What you said is completely irrelevant because the US is, by its own metrics of economic success, the wealthiest nation in the world. Much poorer nations, again by the US's measures of economic success, have universal healthcare. So yeah, let's talk to some random uncontacted tribe in Papua New Guinea to see what we should all think about universal healthcare 🙄.

[@marcomoreno6748]

​@ace448 Profit in general is waste. Profit IS inefficiency. Profit is waste heat, friction, leftovers- for the do-nothing middle men CEOs

[@MarioBono]

I’m from Australia, and 3 years ago, I was diagnosed with a 95% blockage of my LAD coronary artery - widow-maker territory. Within 2 weeks, I had multiple angiograms, an angioplasty - 2 stents - and my total out-of-pocket expenses was about AUD$300. The Australian public healthcare system saved my life,and continues to save many lives.

[@francisguyman3819]

When you play with people’s lives en masse for profit, you really can’t be surprised when people laugh when someone plays with yours 🤷‍♂️

[@Occam31]

💯

[@edwardcumpstey9061]

Mangione's act was the sum kinetic force of those that were denied coverage for profit. That CEO felt the force in a matter of seconds.

[@B_Bodziak]

Well, you certainly cannot expect sympathy

[@nataliewalton8590]

So playing with ppls lives is only wrong when it's someone you don't hate??

[@bear211]

​@@nataliewalton8590Take it easy agent Natalie.

[@andrewboyling2628]

$90k for an appendectomy is absolutely ridiculous. It doesnt end with the insurance companies.

[@CriticalAfricanThinkers]

Exactly!

[@wonderlust3054]

The reason it's $90k is because of the insurers who won't pay and the people who can't pay. They're making up the difference for the slim part of the time it does get paid. It does end at the insurance companies.

[@sallyprzybil2404]

Agreed……..the hospitals, doctors, and other Medical Facilities charge way, way too much!

[@GenevieveMakhoul]

Agree. $90K is insane, regal robbery. The system is rotten. Hospitals are guilty as well.

[@zaofactor]

Nah it's the insurance companies. It all comes back to the companies prioritizing profits over people.

[@laurabenevelli6783]

I’m 66 and I don’t know a single person from 18 years old - 85 years old who feels bad for the CEO and doesn’t side with Luigi. It doesn’t matter their political beliefs, religious beliefs or anything else. People are tired of being screwed over by insurance companies after paying premiums, deductibles, out of pocket costs and other expenses to often be denied for life or death extremely necessary services that are decided by people who have no medical experience or expertise and a computer.

[@hellsfirefreedomtube6984]

Insurance anymore seems to be a scam. Insurance companies that dropped people in Communist California literally right before those fires. I hope Trump does something to straighten the insurance companies out because this shit can’t keep going on.

[@Krow9000]

"Give us money on a weekly basis and if you need it in the future for medical care we'll cover you...... Unless we feel you don't need it as much as we need another yacht" Brilliant!

[@thoughtlesskills]

Ubi for insurers is very real.

[@mikemann1638]

Murder by gun or murder by pen is the same thing and UHC killed thousands with the pen

[@ny3683syr]

Yes, and so long as our government forces us to have this awful system, instead of a public option, they should create legislation that delivers serious criminal consequences to those who use their pens to murder their customers.

[@josephmedina6403]

his bad back and lack of sex will never hold up in court . 😐

[@lindam.3174]

A killer who killed someone became a terrorist when a mass murderer is a healthcare CEO

[@g0tskillzz]

@@josephmedina6403 good thing jury nullification is an option

[@erica.7231]

Doesn't he come from wealth? I'm pretty sure he had great health insurance growing up.

[@Stedder22-nu1sp]

I'm 54, and I can't find a single friend my age who doesn't side with Luigi. The numbers they're showing us are cooked!

[@SheilaSullivan-i9j]

MSM are 100% corrupt. They are with the oligarchs.

[@josemadrid2913]

I’ve not heard of anyone other than TV commentators, be against Luigi

[@croneyr]

Same here. I’m 50.

[@dragick5646]

correct me if I'm wrong, for those in the older age range is where health insurance company make most of their money from. And medicare advantage is the worse. They're bloodsuckers taking advantage of the elderly.

[@Rudofaux]

​@@josemadrid2913 You just identified your problem.

[@brucerogermorgan2388]

I'm in New Zealand. When my son was 16 during the Covid lockdown, he developed stomach pains that got worse over a couple of days. I took him to our local Hospital at 5.30pm on a Friday. They had him on a Gurney within minutes. A doctor checked him out within an hour and diagnosed an appendectomy which was performed early Saturday morning. He went home Monday afternoon with antibiotics and a tiny scar from excellent keyhole surgery. No ill effects. Total cost to me was $12 for parking. No paperwork, no insurance companies, no $10 million PA CEO's, just top-quality healthcare. I pay 29% tax on an income of around $55,000 PA for this quality of healthcare. If we can do it, why can't the USA? It would actually cost less than what they're paying now!

[@Senekenn]

Costing less means the greedy CEOs and Shareholders get less. Can't rake in poor peoples money when they can save it instead.

[@brucerogermorgan2388]

@@Senekenn For-profit healthcare. Wonderful.

[@bg7290]

But we need to build a border wall and pay Lockheed Martin bro..? We have to give money to Israel to protect us from so and so something something they'll come get us something something

[@brucerogermorgan2388]

@@bg7290 Yup, any excuse to avoid looking after the health of their own citizens. Never mind the hundreds of millions of dollars the for-profit healthcare industry is making off sick people.

[@llkoolbean4935]

Yes murder is wrong which is why health insurance companies need to be held accountable for the murder of tens of thousands of victims every year.

[@TheVisitors44]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@meestermole2412]

Maybe the doctors need to be held accountable for the OUTRAGEOUS amounts they bill people?

[@flittedacrossmybrain8584]

Bullshit. If this conspiracy is so entrenched, then a prime opportunity exists for a group of motivated persons to file the greatest class-action lawsuit in history.

[@sam12587]

@meestermole2412 Yes. And that billing with insurance is so complicated they have to either give up to work for a big medical conglomerate to avoid financial liability or hire staff dedicated to insurance.

[@Madeleine-n4g]

@@meestermole2412 not wonder Indians dream is to become surgeons

[@phay1966]

My 18 year old son, that was still on my medical insurance had a subdural hematoma, was rushed into the emergency room and denied treatment until they got in touch with the insurance company and made sure he was covered, smh. He could've died waiting for approval. Something has to change. 😢

[@bardnightingale]

You need to sue. In the US, the ED is not allowed to withhold treatment for emergency care. As a nurse, I'm not supposed to even know what or if an ED pt has insurance.

[@kontrygrll01amerika54]

That was definitely illegal to deny emergency care in the ER for an emergency like a subdural hematoma. Every hospital that gets Federal funds has to provide emergency care no matter if you have no insurance at all, that is the law, Federal law.

[@BrendaEdwards-g8f]

Luigi is not GOD. He murdered a person so he should get his punishment. He definitely not a ‘hero’, he just looking for someone to kill. He didn’t even has United Health insurance. Stop idealize a murderer

[@MaXimus-l7v]

The biggest joke is for the pre approval they want in the case of a health emergency. Wtf?

[@shirleyandrews1152]

A friends baby died cuz they didn’t have ins.

[@GoddieAshwoodCove]

My Mom was a victim of Health Insurance & Social Security!! She was sick for 6 yrs! She poured into SS since the age of 16 - 51 She died one month after her 58th Birthday, in that same week She was approved for BOTH!! I DON'T APPROVE OF MURDER - APPARENTLY THEY DO!!!

[@heidistrand320]

Sad story but thank you for sharing what so many of us are suffering. Leniency for Luigi.

[@mochasweetie7580]

So sorry for your mother’s suffering and your loss. This has got to stop!

[@exposeevil5492]

Sorry for your loss but we have two national governments and your following the wrong one

[@DerptyDerptyDUM]

Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry. ❤

[@exposeevil5492]

You're*

[@MarcoMerino-v5l]

Working in insurance, I saw this everyday. Pill addicted seniors. Soul crushing and life ending.

[@christhedoll]

I'll care about CEOs when they are actually held accountable for the damage/deaths they cause.

[@dinamosflams]

So, when they are not CEOs

[@shugimi]

@@dinamosflams lol yep

[@lindagorham1409]

And NObody is worth 10 million $/yr!!!! Totally ridiculous

[@Shell2014]

So improve yourself and become a CEO…. Wait it’s easier to sit and do nothing collecting from the money of workers……..

[@deborahbeltz718]

They do not get life in prison because they killed you behind closed doors, the healthcare insurance companies?😢

[@the_om_project]

This should be what the news looks like everywhere. It’s shocking that it’s shocking. So bad.

[@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper]

Blonde hair bad 🎉

[@CoryPchajek]

@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper:-(

[@methonyHolmes-e8p]

It was before Bill Clinton. The neocon passed the Telacomunication Act of 96 and allowed all news to be owned by half a dozen organizations.

[@zachlemaster3312]

It's also what happens on 90% of Obama care claims too and this weasel just spent 4 years telling you to vote for it.

[@rebeccaschadt7136]

I've been calling him Robin Hood too!!!!

[@snafu2barb]

Mangione is a symbol of what's wrong with our health care system. My sister needed back surgery after years of pain. Medicare Advantage plan denied. Next step was an appeal where the Dr spoke with the insurance company. Denied. The Dr said for her to come to the ER after 8pm. I drove her there. She was admitted and had her surgery the next morning. Insurance paid. This occurred in Seattle, WA.

[@Toneloke-3000]

Medicare" Advantage" was Started by Bush Jr. and is a scam 100%!

[@DobeMom]

@@track1949 My husband and I have Traditional, Medigap and Part D (drug coverage). It ain't free but since we all have an expiration date, good health insurance coverage is a must. We put that payment in the forefront of our monthly expenses. That being said...everyone in this country deserves free single payer insurance coverage. Maybe one day that'll be a reality.

[@cherryorchard5600]

Mangione is not your folk hero as much as you want him to be. He is innocent until proven guilty. Stop killing this man just because you all need a champion.

[@Slo-ryde]

No senior should remain on a Medicare advantage plan. It’s like playing Russian roulette with your health.

[@michaelbaker4770]

@snafu2barb not just the health system. There is an algo running on everything we use or consume. Wee someone goes homeless rents go up to compensate to shareholders and executives

[@JoeFabeets]

It is indeed time to stand up and stop the madness

[@troubledocean]

This was my local news! I saw it when it aired, and my jaw dropped and I was so delighted.

[@IronmanV5]

Are they the top news broadcast? If not, it sounds like the news director knows how to put them on top.

[@KChelseaVenus]

​@@IronmanV5 NewsNation too is good about their show of support for Luigi.

[@Midala87]

A lot of people talk shit about Florida but honestly I am proud of my fellow Floridians. I almost want to go back there before I retire even though I hate the humidity and the heat but I hate the snow and ice more and it gets hot and humid in New York anyways.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

@@KChelseaVenusI loved their segment where a reporter was outside the jail where Luigi is being held and prisoners were responding from their windows.

[@mariakelly2146]

Used to be mine too. Milton caused me to move to IN and I hope to find some news even half as good.

[@zhengkevin6514]

Luigi wasn’t even a customer of UHC. His grandmother left at least $30 million in her will for the family. He has been a volunteer at the nursing home owned by his family. I believe Luigi did this for disadvantaged people.

[@grahamrobson9292]

Fact it’s not a Health Care company it’s a genocidal accountancy project. Every 100k profit was multiple deaths and suffering. Men and women dying slowly in front of their kids. That guy was taking bonuses on directly causing agonising suffering.

[@dontsubcribedontlike673]

I'm a CNA and the things I saw in underfunded nursing homes absolutely traumatized me. On some nights the client-to-assistant ratio would be as high as 50 to 1. Our managers and nurses were so concerned about liabilities, regulations, and cutting costs, I'd frequently find ulcers or wounds on patients that had clearly been passed over by other staff but they were afraid to report it but they knew they'd be blamed for it and they'd have to fill out all the paperwork. Someone told me years ago, "You can't teach someone how to live until you've taught them how they'll die." Well I've seen what it looks like when someone is hours from death, and the utter neglect and loneliness they experience is beyond nightmarish. I can never forget the people I saw, the misery and despair on display, it was truly hellish and I wouldn't wish such indignities on my worst enemy.

[@maxsavage3998]

Noble cause

[@babyrawlyfe4455]

Or he's being framed..

[@PsychNurseE]

Yes he Sacraficed for the Larger Cause. Not to have sexual function so handsome so intelligent, I shiver seeing the spikes in his back! Looks like a Shitty Surgery certainly did not attempt less hardware to pound into his spine?

[@GotchARABBIT]

German here: Its unbelievable to me how the US citizens put up with this exploitative system. The US has the most expensive Healthcare system in the world and you are getting absolutely no service from it. Here my insurance just pays for everything without me even beeing involved. I just recently found out, the medication I got prescribed was 400$ a month and I didn't even know. I've had a surgery at a hospital last month and I didnt even have to think about money or the payment process, all while, per capita we pay much less for healthcare, as all procedures and medications are reasonably priced here, as endurances actually get to negotiate the price

[@KevinWarburton-tv2iy]

Pretty similar here in NZ. Private Health Insurance, Private Health hospitals etc exist for those that want to goldplate their care ...but they are expected by Gov to fulfill their Contracts with their Customers.

[@astramccracken6555]

BECAUSE SYSTEM SUCKS

[@mr.pavone9719]

We put up with it because the ultra-wealthy control the US government and because they've done everything they can to make Americans terrified of anything they label as Communism.

[@dudeonbike800]

We adore the Almighty Dollar more than life itself. We've stood by watching children massacred in school and done nothing. We allow companies to wreak environmental disaster and make no change. We embrace an insane car culture that is so destructive. Climate change? Doesn't exist! Our system is inexorably corrupted by money and there's no saving it.

[@shreddedguy679]

But then why does Germany accept USA exploiting jt? Nordstream 2 ?? They are your enemy lol

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

His story is the exact story of my best friend. But she is only 22. Thank God for Luigi, he did what I could not because I have to take care of too many people. Literal living saint

[@poolboy1690]

For profit health insurace needs to be banned. Universally.

[@TagginGurl]

It's not allowed in some other countries why is it allowed here?

[@Fishy-i2g]

It will be banned once enough people like you with smart ideas take the actions necessary for them to become a reality. If YOU want change, YOU need to change.

[@MrJJ042804]

@@TagginGurl, because of government corruption!

[@Hullad1379]

Do you trust the government?

[@JamieWedge]

You don't want health insurance like Canada. Take 2 years before get to see a dr. Then they still denied helping you. There are people in Canada who come to the U.S. to see a dr sooner because I can't wait that long in their own country.

[@joanklein6463]

Thank you for commenting and showing this. I don't see why Luigi is charged with Terrorism. This is Murder but not Terrorism. If anyone should be charged with Terrorism it's the CEO'S and Board Members of these insurance and Healthcare companies.

[@wallybraveheart6896]

The rich pigs that control this god forsaken country called Merica are terrified because we the people are done with the greed of the rich.

[@santi7470]

TOTALLY AGREE!

[@aletarossi-thomas8757]

I'd say self defense. Not even murder.

[@JDavis-mh4rg]

​@@aletarossi-thomas8757true. We need a full video bc it looked like the CEO was armed. Clearly self defense

[@Emme333]

That is the best comment I have seen.

[@timtowers7997]

Wealthiest country in the world. We can afford free public healthcare.

[@pogolaugh]

We can’t afford for profit health exploitation companies that we have.

[@snafu2barb]

No it isn't. Per capita GDP, Luxembourg is the wealthiest country in the world. Followed by Ireland, Switzerland and Norway. The US has the world's biggest economy.

[@MmC-vn1mf]

​@@snafu2barband yet we still somehow can't afford it? Interesting isn't it?

[@terrymckenzie8786]

Then you have to convince the republicans it’s not communism 😂😂 Good luck with that.

[@timtowers7997]

@@snafu2barb You're splitting hairs. There's no excuse for us not to have free healthcare. We spend far more on private healthcare and it is totally inequitable.

[@wildwindings]

DENY. DEFEN. DEPOSE. Im tired of my food being poison. Im over my health not being prioritized over profit. Im done with capitalism. And Im done paying taxes for a system that does nit serve us.

[@jim9930]

Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity, I will mock when your fear cometh. Proverbs 1; 24-26 May 21, 2011 was the beginning of judgement day on the world - you were WARNED And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ, and he shall reign to ever and ever. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Revelation 11;15 19;15 spoiler alert 'last day' =2033 ebiblefellowship /timelines Fear, and the pit, and the snare are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. Isaiah 24;17 NO ESCAPE The Lord is known by the judgement which he executeth, the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. selah. Psalm 9;16 Ana it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor. Zechariah 14;13 "Tumult" = confusion & disbelief ...actively, purposefully imposed on the world for the punishment of mankind. The Lord has no pleasure in the death of the wicked T - minus eight years and counting... FIRE ...Incidentally, I remember when the United States Supreme Court ruled against payer in public schools; effectively as a nation denying God!! Surprise, you get what you deserve? It is truly heartbreaking to watch the calamities unfold. READ THE BOOK! ...or rather should have, too late now to undo the ignorant, blind disaster created by our own hands. Fairy tales, eh?

[@magsmags5255]

It will get much worse with trump. He serves billionaires and corporations (his MEGA DONORS).

[@soularddave2]

Those who make Bernie Sanders impossible make Louie Mangioni inevitable

[@andreah6379]

Good one!

[@NicoletteJones-m8c]

💯💯💯💯✔️

[@hermithefrog629]

Bernie is a genocide supporter. He believes isreal has a right to exist

[@michaelgj23]

Shiiiiiit, that’s a winning campaign slogan if I ever heard one

[@Metsa25]

I like this. Suitable for Bartlett's👍

[@Kpictures_NYC]

Luigi acted in self defense

[@rogerthornton4068]

He spent some quality time with the health care CEO.

[@friggenbozo4495]

did he even have a job or did he just live off his parents?

[@wilburtshnookums]

@@friggenbozo4495 doesnt matter. you pay for health insurance they should do their job. stop your petty attempt to add a useless qualifier to whether or not health insurance companies should do what people pay them to do

[@Drowningpooralice505]

No, he didn't by definition. A stranger that doesn't know you're there isn't attacking him, he was shot in the back. How do you figure he was defending himself from a man that didn't know he was there?

[@X2LR8]

Every person ever accused of any crime on earth acted in self defense.

[@rydia5395]

Lets face it, most people wouldn't mind paying for insurance if it covered all your procedures. But when they deny your claim? Why the fuck are we paying for our premium then?

[@0heck]

"We don't make money by paying out claims". It's a racket. Always has been since they switched to a for profit model back in the 70s and 80s. Profit for pain, anguish and death.

[@a5cent]

Health insurance doesn't exist to help people with health issues. It exists to maximize dividends of health insurance investors.

[@Mercedes-pc6gt]

Ronald Reagan politics destroyed our democracy.

[@Wraiven22]

That’s literally their entire business model though 😂. Any system centering profit will always inevitably lead to this. There’s no fixing it, it needs completely scrapped.

[@Slo-ryde]

Every senior needs to drop out of the Medicare advantage plans. That is the first step.

[@randrozguidroz6485]

Luigi acted in self-defense.

[@carolinemhurleyful]

Hoping Luigi brings us ALL together because in the end we're all just.... HUMAN

[@We_r_the_resistance]

What that young man did for the possibilities going forward can never be underappreciated. I am sorry that it took this to plant the seed but this may just spark the consciousness needed to save ourselves!

[@xjunkxyrdxdog89]

Red vs blue is a myth created by corporate oligarchs.

[@KChelseaVenus]

​@@We_r_the_resistance We may need more Luigi's in droves because the elites think they can shut us out by hiring more security. We need to show them there are more of us than them.

[@Rexorazor]

​@@KChelseaVenus This time no hoodies and unique smiles, A mask and a killer gear...

[@We_r_the_resistance]

@@KChelseaVenus we just need to keep this conversation front and center. Luigi’s trial will help to keep the issue in the news but being a federal case, will likely not be televised. It’s up to us to keep our minds and voices fixed on the inequality and the state of affairs in our country. I think for the past few years, people were certain that our leaders, or the courts, or the media would save us. We have been shown time and again, that nobody is coming to save us. All of our institutions go hand in hand with one another and the money ties them all together! So, as Americans, we have reached an apex, We must stand up for ourselves and each other. This class consciousness must motivate and be our constant companion! I am 47 years old and have been waiting for this moment since I was about 22, which is when I first understood that it seemed damn near impossible to thrive in America. We CAN force the changes we wish to see but it will require much of each and every one of us. Sacrifice is a necessity and we have to be willing to put In the blood, sweat, and tears to realize the world we want for one another! We CAN do this! We must prepare, rest when necessary, make smart decisions, and be ready to lend our efforts wherever and whenever they are required! Create physical community with like minded people be there for one another! This won’t happen overnight but I’m positive that if we stay the course and rely on one another for strength and love, we can produce an America that we all know she can be!! I’m proud of my fellow countrymen and women, this hasn’t been easy on anyone but together, we can climb to heights we never thought possible! Happy New Year everyone!! ✨🎊

[@bamm86]

I really felt that man’s rage and pain. I’m with him. People don’t care unless it’s happening to them. The thing here is, levels of this injustice is happening to all of us.

[@PsychNurseE]

As a Masters level Nurse it took me 15 years to get life changing pain surgery. And I’m a NURSE how do regular non medical citizens can accomplish anything. Go to a poor neighborhood everyone in wheelchairs, canes, deformed from a fall 3 stories, then go to a rich neighborhood w 80 yos playing Tennis Golf painting ENJOYING RETIREMENT !! Do the poor have an enjoyable “Retirement “

[@RobertDrane]

90% of life expectancy gains in the last 100 years have gone to the top 50% of the income distribution.

[@guppy0536]

Thank you finally said out loud poor people don't get desk jobs

[@randycoolbaugh1408]

Randy here, A deplorable from a deplorable family. No, the "poor" do NOT have enjoyable retirements. But "we" work just as hard if not harder throughout our lives as any "elitist". It's getting time for the "Meek to inherit the earth." Matthew 5.5

[@ciroomaggio3025]

Bravissima grazie della sua testimonianza.

[@suefrailey4979]

Physicians for a National Health Plan ❤️‍🩹 Follow, Join, Share: PNHP.org

[@ReganNA-qi4qy]

Some hero’s don’t wear capes

[@renakmans3521]

Thanks to Luigi for kicking the door wide open!!!

[@ciroomaggio3025]

Si però potrebbero condannarlo a morte. Se ci fosse una condanna così morirei dalla tristezza. È un ragazzo giovane potrebbero farlo uscire su cauzione. Ma, ahimè deve rimanere in prigione come custodia cautelare. Luigi non è un terrorista. Il terrorista era New Orleans,il quale ha fatto una strage di povere persone.

[@google_is_a_criminal]

@@ciroomaggio3025 You do not get bail in the usa when you are on video committing premeditated murder. He's never going to be a free man again, and will be lucky if he isn't sentenced to death.

[@brianmcintyre8563]

He is an American folk hero, they should start naming parks and streets after him.

[@lindagorham1409]

Yes, he sure did open the proverbial “can of worms.” That is a GOOD thing and these all edged health insurers need a deep investigation into their shitty illegal practices.

[@shawnchurch316]

The nitrogen mask awaits him.

[@coleramus561]

It took me 14 years, but I finally tricked my insurance into paying for an umbilical hernia operation. They did come back and try to make me pay, but without their approval, it would NEVER have been fixed. 14 years of being turned down. Half my guts were hanging out my belly button. For 14 years.

[@christophluger793]

Honestly my jaw dropped reading your comment. AFAIK it is not a long or complex procedure and being denied for 14!!! years (in which you could absolutely have complications like your guts getting cut off blood circulation and actually die). Here I get everything I need for "free" (we pay more taxes but in the end it's a lot cheaper) and I hope that this finally leads to something. Problem is the guy that comes next.

[@ineedhoez]

Damn.

[@suffragettesoul2687]

​@@christophluger793 mine dropped too!

[@dim307]

that’s SO awful!! i’m so so sorry!! 😢

[@jelatinosa]

"tricked"? What do you mean "tricked"? They owed you that coverage! You simply got what you had been paying for that they owed you. They were the ones stealing from you.

[@hollyharris1874]

UHC is the worst! After a 2003 surgery I had, *UHC tried to deny the claim that they had pre-approved!* Then they tried to deny the LIFE-SAVING care for complications from that surgery. I had to threaten a lawsuit while I was still recovering from that nightmare. Anyway, we hated UHC so much where I worked, our Administrator changed our carrier almost immediately, thank God!

[@gitslover9834]

I am sorry you had to go through so much bs with them. I have their dental insurance and another dental insurance and United Dental is as useful as a dead car. My other plan through my employer covers most of my treatments.

[@lawsonj39]

UHC is undoubtedly the worst, but ALL healthcare insurers are a barrier to care and cause unnecessary expense to the system. A single-payer system is WAY overdue.

[@billh.1940]

Cancel uhc and get rid of politicians who won't listen.

[@StarSol-f9q]

Greed killing millions, and they blame Luigi for one...

[@AlpineSkiHolyCrossCO]

Physician here who watched my salary drop again because United and 2 other companies dropped our reimbursement again. Yes I’m not homeless on the streets but I averaged about 5 hours a week more work and took a 25% hit in my salary. I am in a much better area and generally don’t see patients get refusals but I practice in an area where patients have already been approved. Five years ago I watched patients get denied more than covered. Our system must change and it can the easy way or a violent way. I’m just waiting to see what way our leaders choose.

[@FT4Freedom]

Do no harm ❤

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Thank you for this. Everyone is experiencing this It's time for a revolution.

[@falconquest2068]

Wouldn't it make sense to make the insurance companies non-profits? They would administer the payments but have no "profit" motive.

[@donnajaworski8083]

Good luck with the"leaders"

[@loraeckert7003]

Thank you for your comment. One of my doctors decided he would not take insurance company patients any longer because of the hassel with insurance companies.

[@sailawayteam]

Finally Americans start taking these problems seriously.

[@dan1579]

This man’s a hero for his honesty

[@dajw7540]

Jury will nullify. No way they’ll find a jury to condemn him.

[@etherealicer]

Someone ratted him out, hoping for a payday. You think they can't buy a jury?

[@jesjes5255]

Australian here... I had a 25mm swelling in my thyroid. Saw the General Practioner ('physician' to most of you) who wrote a referal for a scan. GP didnt cost me. Scan done by diagnostics private provider on the same day, and they also aspirated the mass as much as possible and sent a biopsy off for analysing..... cost me nothing. Thank heavens for govt medicare. Every citizen over 50 (I think they find you on the electoral register....voting is compulsory for citizens over 18) gets sent a bowel cancer screening kit every 2 years. There is free breast cancer screening from mobile screening vans and David Jones dept store in Sydney for women over 40. The Australian health care system is not perfect, but people don't die from being unable to pay for treatment. I am truly grateful for this.

[@djdrews]

Thank you for sharing. It shows Americans that national healthcare is possible. It's just a matter of priority.

[@dim307]

my mother had hyperthyroidism and as a result developed graves’ disease. due to her limited coverage she couldn’t really get a diagnosis… then she visited her twin sister in sydney and went to HER doctor and tho she wasn’t covered by australia they gave her her diagnosis and she got help 10y too late in america!

[@threeofeight197]

Yeah. The US is like a capitalist hellscape in many ways.

[@pegmarinello4175]

Such a travesty our countrymen endure​. Hoping you all are in good health today. One cannot afford to be ill. In the u.s.@@dim307

[@VelvetJazz]

I envy you!!😢

[@Ostnizdasht206]

People are starting to get the message... finally.

[@billieeisenhower406]

we've known the message, what are people going to do with it? vote harder? that has never worked, you have two right-wing political parties and absolutely no government representation besides aoc, you are genuinely fucked if you don't have your own french revolution soon, because that is the only other option you guys got.

[@LT-em1vu]

Yes there are and this all will change that industry but this murder will go to jail for life.

[@herobrinenoch3522]

Anyone else remember when Hillary Clinton was vilified by the RW for wanting to address this problem - back when Bill was the President?

[@zoyabennettraggamufinmusic2725]

Well said it always takes someone to sacrifice themselves but maybe a change is coming

[@magsmags5255]

CEO's make millions EVERY YEAR, while poor people suffer in pain.

[@YTPartyTonight]

America needs more Luigis.

[@buddys_dad]

I’ve always said John Wilkes Booth was a man ahead of his time

[@solidsteel3634]

The whole world needs them...

[@JohnShuff-c4i]

Luigi, rocks ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉😮😮😮😮😮

[@Whyliebelievers]

And less bibles

[@X2LR8]

Every person in America is now like a CEO.

[@mariananderson3368]

We must fight evil.

[@gregvisioninfosoft]

Why is it even legal for policy holders to pay their premiums when they get no benefit? Same for homeowners in Florida. Its legalized theft. We need to fix this sh*t.

[@lalibellahorne]

It’s crazy, people pay premiums, pay co-pays, pay co-insurance, pay deductible, pay out of pocket, pay in network benefits, pay out of network benefits. What the fudge insurances pay?

[@pegmarinello4175]

Imagine if everyone dropped their insurance. How long b4 we could bankrupt these companies. We have no coverage anyway you look at it

[@timothythompson8129]

I don't pay shit lol. Never have never will.

[@chiclesirico2580]

I bet all my money, that a bunch of our local, state, and federal representatives OWN the insurance companies.

[@someguy-k2h]

It is fixed, it's just fixed against you. The system has always been designed that way. At least they can't deny you for preexisting conditions anymore. Now they just decide to not pay.

[@markfrankenberry2440]

It's kind of frustrating watching all these capitalists throw their hands up and say "why is the system like this?" without realizing that it literally all circles back to capitalism. The pursuit of obscene profits is the single greatest destructive force in the world. It's led to countless deaths, the destruction of ecosystems, the extinction of entire species, the reduction in quality of life for hundreds of millions and it will continue because the people who have the power to enact change are the very people profiting from this dystopia

[@Glumclam]

1,000%

[@mwfmtnman]

Unregulated capitalism, be clear.

[@TakBonez]

They know, they're playing stupid, and denying accountability for legal purposes.

[@halftimex]

Sounds easy to put the entire blame on a single thing. I'm not saying everything you said is wrong. It's just not the entire picture. Capitalism has brought its own innovations. Better housing, vehicles, medicine despite being shady right now has advanced. The problem is gate keeping professionals arguing against the average person who wants a part of the pie.

[@thesoundsmith]

You're half correct. There is a SECOND force that has guaranteed the end of the human race before 2200. Religion. This combination ALWAYS creates Fascism, and there IS no cure. Once EITHER is introduced into a static system, the system begins to disintegrate and rot from within. We are watching humanity's death rattle. Sorry, but we've killed ourselves. And probably the entire mammalian class.

[@mh1art870]

Free Luigi Mangione!!! He is a True American Hero!🙏

[@sovereigncrux]

Whatever the message, he is still a cold blooded killer who can look another person in the eye and shoot them. He belongs in prison.

[@jschuler53]

@@sovereigncrux You must work for a big corporation , have a lot of money, maybe a CEO in any case you just don't care about anyone but your own uninformed opinion. Some laws shouldn't exist. He didn't look him in eye. Stop lying and go back to bed.

[@RichOrElse]

@@sovereigncrux that’s what soldiers do

[@Syrph.]

@@sovereigncrux Agreed. Kinda disgusted by all the people that are against violence suddenly celebrating it because it was against someone they didn't like(and had never heard of before). He's no hero.

[@renakmans3521]

@@Syrph.It’s an eye for an entire body. Happy new year…

[@Trendingupwards]

The movie "John Q" starring Denzel Washington came out way back in 2002 and we are still dealing with insurance claim denial. In the movie "Crash" 2004, The police officer played by Matt Dillon is fighting with his Dad's insurance. The Movie Industry has attempted to put this topic in the public's eye and we are still, nothing has been done to fix the problem.

[@mounita16213]

I'm with Luigi!

[@katherinea.rodgers8366]

Murder is not right!! No matter what. I agree that these Insurance companies are so corrupt and cause such grief and need to be called out!!

[@robertscidmore6286]

We need a Luigi army let's roll!

[@edwardcumpstey9061]

@@katherinea.rodgers8366 Wow, what a genius you are...

[@ISO8Legionaire]

@@robertscidmore6286 aka violent class war

[@johnyepthomi892]

@@katherinea.rodgers8366 so you’re saying the entire people supporting are deranged. How dare you. Are you leaving trails so your dear God knows where to find proof of what a great human being you are? Beat it.

[@MasterDebator-l7u]

I watched this from that news source, and that older gentleman they interviewed was simply speaking the truth. To add to it he says I have to take opioid pain killers everyday which he’s addicted to because his insurer keeps denying his claims for surgery, which would fix his issue. Yeah people look at Luigi as a Robinhood, and if we’re trying him then lets get some insurance and pharma execs on trial as well

[@stephaniebilansky5238]

Insurance companies are then part of the opioid problem. They help the pharmaceutical companies make obscene amounts of money.

[@jessiejohnson6424]

I'm on Medicare and a Medicare prescription plan. I take hydromorphone, (about 60 times stronger than a comparable dose of morphine) much more stronger than Oxycodone and others. I'm actually allergic to Oxycodone.......But.....I can use the Lidocaine 4% patches, available over the counter. The Prescription Dose is 5%, which is NOT covered by Medicare Rx. I can get 200 pills of a very strong opiate paid for, which can certainly be addictive but not be able to use a topical medicated patch that will never be addictive!!!! plus the last time I checked was almost $200.00 for a box of patches. Over the counter is about $20-$25...

[@riomio7852]

Saint Luigi

[@woodruff473]

In 2013 I had an emergency appendectomy. I was uninsured. The bill I got 6 weeks later was $36,000.00 and I literally left the hospital the day after the goddamn surgery to avoid costs.

[@dennisbloomquist9220]

Yeah, the strategy is "just don't get sick." Thing is denying we get ill is exactly as stupid as denying we will die.

[@hifijohn]

Had a hernia operation and 24 hrs in the hospital for some minor complications. The total bill was almost $30K!! thank god I was insured.

[@empressdoinalot]

​@@dennisbloomquist9220of course. I work in healthcare, people are not just sick 9-5pm they're sick 24/7. They require care 24/7. So this whole avoid being sick nonsense isn't even possible

[@lizzirountree93]

As an American who had an emergency appendectomy while living in Australia in 2011, I paid zero dollars and had 2 nights in the hospital.

[@stephenleyden9559]

woodruff, you gotta be one 5he people protesting in the street to change this forever!

[@OnnieKoski]

“Impossible problem to solve” says only country to have this problem.

[@dmikulec]

My sister works in a doctor's office and deals with medical insurance companies every day. The stories she tells me about dealing with them make my jaw drop. She has also been running into instances where people are sold policies and don't understand their policy has an $8000 annual deductable. She thinks the people selling the policies are either doing a poor job explaining the $8000 deductable or aren't explaining it at all.

[@SB-qv3yo]

Obsmacate created the $8k deductibles and money machine driven by medical field hierarchy not insurance companies directly. I had been in this game as things began to transition and get hijacked.

[@hillsane9262]

@@SB-qv3yo It depends on the state and how many companies participate and how many plans do they offer. It appears that some Bronze level plans may essentially be what they used to call catastrophic coverage plans!

[@Jon-xw9om]

60yo Brit here. I'm about to have my third MRI scan in 5(?) months to resolve a similar issue. I've been able to email my doctor -whose ONLY concern is my welfare- throughout the process with any problems. It may take a day or two, but she always replies. I may or may not require surgery, but if I do, it will be a MEDICAL decision only made by me and my doctors. I've checked to see how much it would cost, and I am so grateful to The NHS for providing this FREE service. BTW, it's honestly good to see Americans finally come together and agree on one thing...

[@truth2power463]

Americans have been fed so much bullshit over the decades that we EQUATE Capitalism with PATRIOTISM. If you're not a capitalist, then you must hate America. What they fail to realize is that it is the CAPITALISTS who hate America, because this particular kind of capitalism requires that citizens ALWAYS support their own worst interests, and the people who dismiss them from consideration as human beings.

[@DanHarkins-jk9mi]

I just watched the amazing documentary Sicko, by Michael Moore, where he goes in-depth into the inner workings of the healthcare system in England (and a few other countries). You guys are so fortunate. One of the main criticisms we always hear from those on the right regarding universal care is the crazy amount of time one must wait before actually receiving care. This, however, did not seem to be the case in any of the places Moore visited. I was just wondering what your experience has been throughout your life, if you don't mind me asking. TNX!

[@frednurk6979]

@@liamgross7217 Fellow Aussie here, mate. Medicare is 2% of taxable income, not 1.5%. Maybe you get a rebate? Regardless, I don't mind contributing to universal health care, rather than this US crap. I saw somewhere that US life expectancy is actually reducing. Terrible situation that's probably about to get worse. I immediately guessed correctly the cause of the CEO getting shot. I figure these guys will just spend more on security, rather than paying out to claimants.

[@luchts4547]

@@DanHarkins-jk9mi There are longer wait times for non-emergent care, and that can lead to living with discomfort (things like joint replacement surgeries etc) longer than you might if you lived in the USA and could afford healthcare, but if there's something you need done it gets done. At the end of the day look at health statistics and people in England are healthier than Americans and have a longer life expectancy, so that kind of negates arguments that their system isn't better than USA's. And the whole wait times argument completely ignores the fact that the wait times for many Americans is infinite. About 75 million Americans either don't have health insurance or can't afford to use their health insurance (can't pay the deductibles/copays) so their wait time for care they need is often literally "forever".

[@FFM0594]

@@DanHarkins-jk9mi I've been to the NHS multiple times while visiting family in England. I never had to wait more than 30 minutes for anything. I live in Germany and have had 3 operations in hospital here over the years. The longest I had to wait was 2 weeks and that was to let an internal wound heal over before the op. I split my head open on holiday in France, was picked up in an ambulance and stayed in hospital, never had to pay. I had to visit a health centre (ER Outpatient) in Portugal, never had to pay. I went to a private doctor to avoid a longer journey when I was in Sweden , it cost me about $30. The people in the USA propagating the horror stories about universal healthcare are probably paid by the likes of United Healthcare to do so.

[@mtbkmaniac1]

I was denied coverage for an intestinal bleed. I bled for 4 days and was admitted for it. I spent a week in the hospital. Afterwards my ins company denied the claim, saying it wasn't life threatening. It, thankfully only took one letter to have it covered. I was looking at over 40k.

[@laulaja-7186]

Four days is long enough to hop on a plane to a place with health care. Wanna know the real reason America’s diplomats work so hard to get everyone visa free access to other countries? Yup.

[@Madeleine-n4g]

@@mtbkmaniac1 that is crime on daylight they should subject to mental assessment because they do not understand the gravity of their actions

[@Burqueño505]

How can you be denied when Obama “banned” that from happening??

[@mtbkmaniac1]

@Burqueño505 I couldn't believe it when I got the letter of denial.

[@luannestrickland4199]

I’m glad it finally worked out. Shouldn’t have ever been denied.

[@NeilDENNEY]

Thank goodness I live in a country with free healthcare paid for my out of taxes. Keep the conversation going

[@qwadratix]

I'm British. That means I have guaranteed free healthcare, cradle to grave. IMO anything that anyone can do to bring a system like ours a little closer for Americans is justified. Anything.

[@TheFaro2011]

They're desperately trying to change that

[@ooohnooo8029]

That "cradle to the grave" is being threatened at this very time. The profiteers are trying to get their fingers into that pie by making the NHS dysfunctional, not fit for purpose and "expensive".

[@GeorgeLerma]

thank you~! We want the same!

[@sandrabarrie84]

I’m Canadian and enjoy the same. We may pay more in taxes but certainly nothing so extreme that I would give up my free healthcare! I can’t imagine living any other way.

[@GeorgeLerma]

@@sandrabarrie84 The problem in America, is that many are so religiously- ingrained into fighting higher taxes that they formed a cultish fetish around it, without allowing for nuances. But in-fact, we do pay high taxes: it's called healthcare insurance. So we pay "taxes" to corporations, not the government. I personally pay around 6k in "taxes" every year. And I'm single, with no children. It can go way, way up from there.

[@grypheonix]

THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING AND OUR GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO LISTEN!

[@LT-em1vu]

March on Washington next

[@MikeManning-p8u]

The government only listen to the big corporations who make big donations to their campaigns.

[@herobrinenoch3522]

Well trump's administration of billionaires and bigots sure isn't going to listen are they?

[@dinamosflams]

​@@MikeManning-p8uor when threatened with violence

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

You are right but they, especially trumpy, won't.

[@lucavenaugh1740]

Go, Luigi. We’re behind you!!!!!

[@Bruce-mm2uc]

One quote I remember when Kaiser in California would not pay for a child's seizure became it was not a Kaiser facilty. So mom and child get transported to Kaiser facility 20 minutes away. The child died 10 minutes after arriving. ThThe response of Kaiser was, "We did not deny treatment we denied payment." Heartless.

[@VivekAnandJ]

This wasn't murder. This was Justice...

[@davidaston5773]

Tell that to George Floyd's family as well. You know a drug dealer that locals didn't like? Wasn't murder. Justice.

[@NicoletteJones-m8c]

💯💯💯💯✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️

[@ord4r857]

No. Luigi Mangione never was a United Healthcare customer. Neither Brian Thompson or United Healthcare ever wronged him. Luigi is just a murderer.

[@LT-em1vu]

It was murder dude. it helped put the spotlight on a big problem.

[@X2LR8]

That’s true with all crimes against anyone on earth.

[@caroljo420]

Terrorism charges means no jury. It's part of the Patriot Act. That's WHY they charged him with terrorism. So the judge could "make an example" of him. Sounds like abuse of power to me.

[@openyoureyes3969]

👍

[@slagmigwire155]

That's not true. The only time a defendant gets a bench trial is when they request it. Trial by jury is a constitutional right.

[@morganseppy5180]

The NY murder case is first

[@TK-kl3lz]

Please state your source. Being charged with terrorism does not preclude a jury trial. A defendant can still choose between a jury trial or a bench trial (judge only).

[@johnbrown4949]

That sounds unconstitutional.

[@kimberlywooldridge9563]

GET OFF YOUR BACKS AND YOUR FEET PEOPLE ....WE'VE BEEN ROLLED OVER FOR WAY WAY TOO LONG ...ITS GOTTA STOP

[@stephenleyden9559]

Exactly, america don't let this one get away. Medicare4ALL, NOW!

[@GodsChildrenOnEarth]

We pay high monthly insurance and don’t get NEEDED medical procedures approved. And if approved it’s sometimes too late or already sent to collections because the medical doctor or medical group charges you for it (this happened to me and I rarely go to a doctor, and this year when I had to go to the doctor, the freaking insurance REFUSED to pay and the doctor’s medical group was about to send it to collections!

[@susanpierce6424]

I'm an old white woman, living in a household of Republicans, who is a left leaning Independent, so I wouldn't be so quick to assume this man is a conservative. This poor man needs to ditch his Medicare Advantage and go to Traditional Medicare plus a supplement if he can afford it. Unfortunately if the Trump administration or Republicans in general have their way we will ALL be in this state because they would love nothing more than to Privatize Medicare which is "code" for Medicare Advantage Plans.

[@track1949]

Every Fall more Boomers are fooled by all of the M " advantage" TV ads. 😮 Really disappointing to find out how gullible these people are. 😮

[@tomallen5837]

Yeah this is typical Kyle being young and immature. He's never been exposed to much. I like him. I listen to at least one of his podcasts a day, but he has no idea of what he's talking about with regards to this Floridian. I myself have lived in Florida for at least 20 years of my life both as a child and as an adult. I still have family in Florida - it can really go either way. And some people just vote for Trump because they get better tax breaks let's not forget that ( I know several retirees in Florida who do that). Kyle should not be making assumptions but he occasionally goes off on things he doesn't know of. Certainly will forgive him for that

[@JustB-cuz]

Not easy to switch because he’ll need a Medigap supplement plan to pay for the copays. it is not as easy to enroll in Medigap outside of the Medigap Open Enrollment Period and a handful of other guaranteed issue periods. Without guaranteed issue, you’ll likely have to go through medical underwriting to enroll in a Medigap plan-and insurance carriers can reject your application based on your answers. He has a significant pre-existing condition.

[@janinebrittanica4314]

​@@JustB-cuz yes, unless this guy moves out of state to qualify for an SEP, he will never pass medical underwriting to get a medical plan

[@Slo-ryde]

Even if I didn’t qualify for a medigap plan , I would still leave the Advantage plans. Medical debt can be paid in small installments; which is better than being denied care.

[@b62boom1]

My only question about this shooting is why has it taken so long to happen, when the health insurance industry has treated people appallingly for years?

[@elvirawalker-n1q]

We seem to get comfortable with whatever is handed down to us. They have programed us to feel grateful for pittance.

[@eddyimplementredux]

My number one question is what does Luigi actually think? As far as I know there is no record of his beliefs, is he a M4ALL supporter or, looking at his social media full of Tucker, does he believe that a 100% privatized anarcho-bitcoin based system would solve everything, I think the guy is gonna break a lot of hearts if he ever gets to speak his mind

[@B_Bodziak]

Imagine if Luigi had not engraved the casings....

[@adebord82]

Allegedly*​@@B_Bodziak

[@andreah6379]

Especially with a country filled with guns!?!

[@judithharper6731]

Same here. Similar experience with health insurance company. Scans denied for three months. Told I could ‘self-pay’. Retired, fixed income, minority female. Threatened to go to the media and got approval. I have stage four cancer which might not have gotten that far if approval had been given when requested. I’m suing.

[@allesdurchprobiert]

👍 for going through the trouble of suing! I bet it's not easy. You're not just doing it for yourself but to an extent for everyone. Thanks! And good luck 🍀

[@tfp0052]

Luigi is a hero. He is Robin Hood! He shouldn't be tried. He should be pardoned and released!

[@michaelbartlett6864]

Kyle, I'm a boomer in my 70s now, but I'm more progressive than most young people! For-profit insurance companies have NO place in the healthcare delivery system, because the only way to make more profit is to pay for less healthcare! The simple solution to healthcare insurance - MEDICARE FOR ALL, Single Payer Not For Profit! I wouldn't be too concerned about the general public's lack of remorse in this incident. I'm sure there will be plenty of millionaire and billionaire mourners at his funeral, all secretly relieved that it wasn't them cut down on the street, as they increase their own security! I wonder what it is going to take to change their attitude toward the people of this country? As Bernie Sanders says, when 3 people control more wealth than 50% of the country, when will they not want even more at our expense? When is enough, enough for them? When United Healthcare makes 22 billion dollars PROFIT in one year of others suffering and the CEO gets 10s of millions of dollars in bonuses? Is that enough? If I was one of these billionaires stealing from the people, I would spend a LOT MORE time L@@KING over my shoulder with my head on a swivel! JFK articulated it best when he said that, if you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable. Think about that in a country with more guns than people.

[@rebeccastamat]

Well said and I totally agree with you 100% and I am a boomer too.

[@michaelbartlett6864]

@@rebeccastamat Thanks, I knew I wasn't the only one!

[@SweetSkies478]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@michaelbartlett6864]

@@SweetSkies478 Thanks

[@unbreakable7633]

Even the so-called nonprofit companies like BCBS are no better. We need very strict regulations, limits on what the executives can make, a presumption of coverage if the treatment is recommended by a doctor, prohibiting insurance companies from practicing medicine without a license, liability for wrongful denial of coverage (the executives pay personally), standardized insurance contracts so that there is a lot less playing with the terms and conditions. That would help.

[@sonancejasper]

Canadian here! Every time I read about someone who is simply denied health care in the US it is as shocking as the last time, and the time before that, all the way back to the first time when I was a kid. If health care isn't a basic human right, I'm not sure what is.

[@PunkRockEomma1]

It’s never smart to make assumptions. I live in Florida and my dad who just passed away in his 80’s, an “old white guy”, was a dyed in the wool Democrat and more liberal than a lot of black women. He and my mom instilled a strong belief in us that everyone is a human being deserving of respect and dignity. My mom was a trauma unit and ER nurse who cared for all of her patients with the same compassion no matter their race, gender, religious beliefs or income bracket. Unfortunately the people who run the insurance companies don’t have to deal directly with the patient. That makes it too easy for them to depersonalize the masses instead of seeing us as individuals whose lives matter more than the almighty dollar.

[@danielsmith5088]

Had my gall bladder out a few years ago, no insurance, paid out of pocket. With insurance cost - almost $30k; self pay - $5k. The whole thing is a racket, created by insurance companies, big pharma, and lawmakers.

[@suehackett9621]

Luigi killed one man-United Health has killed how many? Hundreds of thousands???????

[@jamesgarner2103]

millions. they've been around for a long long time. there is a whole history on their evil doing in another video. they were sued by doctors for fraud from their subsidiary Envision Healthcare. it did not go out of business. it just renamed itself as Optum. which now forces everyone on United Healthcare to get their Optum RX mail in prescriptions and have their HSA in Optum Bank. yes, United Health has a bank. their monopolistic games have destroyed so many lives.

[@esbliss13]

Yes millions. They're huge.

[@reniorjd]

Defend, delay, depose.

[@AAlford32]

Reduce reuse recycle

[@outlawbillionairez9780]

Deny🏴 Defend 🏴 Depose

[@HarryNicNicholas]

eat the rich.

[@puppykitty6100]

@@AAlford32 Damn it, you read my mind

[@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper]

Blonde hair bad 🎉

[@jeffreysharp9925]

I was talking to a conservative at my work who said he did not want single payer because he did not want a government bureaucrat deciding their healthcare. I asked them if they decided or if an insurance company bureaucrat decided for them.

[@mgkrewson]

It has always blown my mind that conservatives hate the idea of the government having certain power over their health, but are more than happy to give that same power to private corporations whose stated goal is solely about making profit. At least with government you have a chance at accountability, but with corporations, they can legally screw you over as much as they want.

[@scoobydoo3928]

Yeah, I was skeptical of the government being able to manage Medicare for all. But it seems they are doing quite well. Just gonna have to hire a lot more people. Then just pay physicians and hospitals directly. Get rid of middlemen insurance companies. Their haggling over what they will cover and how much, is what has driven the costs so high. I have watched it happen.

[@justinegorski2703]

Personally I’d rather have someone who isn’t looking for a bonus for saving money on my care. That bureaucrat would hopefully have some medical training to make an educated decision, not someone who’s just looking at profit margins.

[@jeffreysharp9925]

@@justinegorski2703 I did say that to them too. That I would prefer a person who did not have a financial interest in denying me healthcare. Private insurance has too many incentives in place to deny care.

[@buddys_dad]

@@justinegorski2703 These decisions are made by call center employees who have NO medical training. The only training these employees receive is how to say no and stand their ground.

[@motopult]

its time to stand up!!!.. to be clear.. its wrong what the CEO did!!!

[@markcollins7765]

Corporate "GREED" is one of the 7 deadly sins.

[@billyd5317]

You don't need a 2 thousand year old book to figure that out.

[@djhudgins8412]

​@@billyd5317 Very true, and deadly sins are a debatable topic within the church, but that book does explain why that's even so. There are 6 out of the 10 commandments that are written on our hearts, and that book says this. That book has an explanation of the problem, offers a solution, shows the process, then shows the solution, and promises absolution and eternity with the One who made you.

[@coolioso808]

There is just one deadly system and it is market capitalism. All the ills and sickness we see in the world today are born out of capitalism. Every. Single. One. Make it the goal of your 2025 New Year's Revolution to wake up and get involved in a system change movement to end capitalism before capitalism ends us. Check out sources like Caitlin Johnstone, Abby Martin, Chris Hedges and academics like Jason Hickel, Kate Raworth and Timothee Parrique. Then research system change movements, such as The Zeitgeist Movement, One Small Town movement and Mutual Aid Network.

[@elkadosh4726]

and pharma is the worst.

[@astramccracken6555]

ONLY GREED

[@athenasparthenon]

WE CAN CHANGE THIS COUNTRY. KEEP FIGHTING

[@openyoureyes3969]

👍

[@Jasona1976]

We need hundreds more Luigi’s.

[@X2LR8]

@@Jasona1976 Every single person in the US is now a CEO. No exceptions.

[@Jasona1976]

@ are you drunk?

[@goodchaos7386]

👏👏👏YES👏👏👏

[@Jasona1976]

@ make all CEOs live in fear for what they have done to us all.

[@jendmusic12]

I understand this man's pain. I have spinal issues and live in pain because I cannot receive medication because of the epidemic 😢

[@MrDanielw006]

Someone should publish all the name of politicians that received lobbyists money from the health insurance companies.

[@edwardhalko220]

all of them do.

[@thehellyousay]

there is a site that does so, if i recall correctly

[@llkoolbean4935]

Most of them do.

[@andrewmelcher6755]

Its all of them. They pay both sides

[@Trox2018]

I think at this point, you can assume they all do. I mean do any of they say they don't, besides Bernie.

[@Colcop]

At least they’re not ignoring the connection.

[@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper]

Blonde hair bad 🎉

[@cathykircher6180]

My sister in law was the supreme denier of claims. Karma is catching up. Now she needs it but she's getting denied denied denied. Also got fired from the insurance company

[@auggiet8380]

We love to see it! What goes around comes around.

[@momcc7882]

I don’t want pay $1000 a mount to have a zoom with my Dr about my ear infection! How she knows that I have ear infection without looking at my ears. That was today by the way.. 🙄

[@bkbk4126]

I'm a white, middle aged, Christian, Republican from the US. My father was a United States naval veteran. No one would cover his eye surgery in his left eye. Because of this, he had gone blind in that eye.

[@bdadolph]

Maybe advocating for more”left” oriented politicians and prodding Obama/Biden Admin and Republicans to provide or even propose more efficient and equitable health care could make a difference

[@JohnColorado3811]

​@@bdadolphObama and Biden had 12 years to do something about it, neither party will do anything.

[@Gunkle_Jeb]

@@JohnColorado3811 what about OBAMACARE?

[@rileyspence1403]

He doesn’t want Marxism you communist… if he did he’s DEFINITELY NOT Christian!

[@rileyspence1403]

He doesn’t want Marxism. If he does he’s DEFINITELY NOT Christian!!

[@jcsrst]

I LOVE that you keep covering this!!!

[@polluxtroy1310]

Yes! Thank you!

[@oleonard7319]

My mother. Who was dr.( when medicine was a profession) always said they had us so scared of socialized medicine. We ended up with something much worse Corp medicine

[@Coco-572]

If surgery isn’t needed, then alternative integrative therapies must be standard .

[@veronicasawyer77]

Dr Oz’s advocacy for Medicare Advantage over traditional Medicare and his financial ties to private insurers who stand to benefit from such a move is extremely concerning. that’s just one of at least several concerning things about that man’s ethics.

[@Faesharlyn]

It's not a bug it's a future

[@barkerbikepirate4916]

You're right. From what I know about Oz, he touts snake oil to people who believe what he says just because he is called "doctor".

[@SocietalDefibrilation]

He's also a Turkish nationalist. Too many people everywhere with questionable loyalties.

[@lindasc-m5917]

Traditional Medicare is cheaper. Dr Oz’s opinion is nutty.

[@venenodelalengua]

We need to stop calling him "Dr" Oz, he's not an actual doctor any more than Cap'n Crunch is a real navy captain

[@mcruzsmith80]

Former UHC employee. I was treated very well until I needed my coverage. I had dual coverage. I was covered under my husband insurance as well. I was having a lot of abdominal pain for months. Turns out I had gallstones, and because of how many I had and their size, I needed surgery. UHC refused to pay because I was covered under my husband. I had never had this problem before. I was able to attend all my specialists and never have to pay a copay or coinsurance because my husband's plan would cover that part. My husband's insurance ended up covering everything besides the coinsurance, which was 20%. It took months and hrs of phone calls, denials, talking to several people, and going into Karen mode to get my reimbursement. Thank God for my husband's insurance. The claim was reprocessed, and my husband's insurance was also reimbursed.

[@david4096]

Free Luigi.

[@kevinodell1502]

Wrong. Damn. Answer.

[@kilvapkram4302]

Right after you free your ass,......dummy? Ceskoslovenska.

[@gemeric4400]

Free my man asap

[@SallySmith-r5n]

Free Luigi!!❤❤❤from Malta

[@michellef.thompson0531]

Luigi, one man, has made the American people wake up to their lived reality regarding the healthcare system, and it's about time.

[@damonzap8659]

Billionaires make better as compost.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Damn straight.

[@TimHobson-b5b]

YEA. LIKE BEYONCE, TAYLOR SWIFT, OPRAH WINFREY, KIM K., ....WHO ELSE? AM I RIGHT? LOL.

[@danielessex2162]

​@@TimHobson-b5b MAGA loser. Bet you defend those Jan 6th traitors

[@Baphomet-r6v]

​@@TimHobson-b5byup Pmurt and his cabinet picks too.

[@JR-pr8jb]

Claims Denial is NOT the only crime of the corporate system. It's the WHOLE sick insurance-run, employer-tied system that means, at any given time, millions of us are without the care needed to be healthy and productive citizens.

[@dr.m7612]

As a doctor, I can tell you that insurance has become a joke as a whole. Regular insurance has made the deductibles so high and unattainable that no one ever reaches it in a year. Their premiums have also skyrocketed. As for Medicare advantage, they don’t approve necessary procedures and the few that they do approve, are making doctors do the work with zero compensation. So they are fucking the patients and the providers. I’m more than generous when it comes to my patients, but when I’m forced to work for free multiple times a day….and have student loans that started out at $180,000, almost 17 years ago and are now over $334,000 after paying on them this whole time….shit doesn’t add up and the whole scheme can go fuck itself. And no, I don’t qualify for Slow Mo Joe’s loan forgiveness…nor do I want it. I just want a fair, reasonable interest rate…especially since I have excellent credit and have never missed a payment.