6 Reasons Why I Bought the OP1-Field + Tape Emulation Demo

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OoraMusic

OoraMusic

Күн бұрын

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@theSantiagoDog
@theSantiagoDog Жыл бұрын
I identify with your reasons for getting the OP-1 Field. Since it came out last year, I've bought and sold it three times! Previously, I would get inspired by reading or watching KZbin videos, pull the trigger, create a few tracks, then started to feel guilty about the cost and sell it. But this last time I realized there's no other synth I own that generates new ideas like this machine. For me it's the alchemy of how all the parts fit together, where you can use a synth engine or sampler to come up with a cool sound, use the keyboard or sequencer to to play it, record a performance to tape, further manipulating it with effects, lfos, time-manipulation, layering on additional tracks...etc, with the added benefit of unbeaten portability and a long battery life. Plus it's my thirteen-year old son's favorite synth. Definitely keeping it this time around👍
@crabolsky
@crabolsky Жыл бұрын
“When you find an instrument that resonates with you, that is priceless” 👏👏👏
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
yep :)
@darwiniandude
@darwiniandude 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tour. I liked how I could hear the high end aliasing artefacts on the slowed-down disc mini emulation. I wouldn't normally want that, but it's cool that it's there.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@digicat247
@digicat247 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter what your instrument is or how much it costs, as long as you love making music on it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
THIS!
@iamYork_
@iamYork_ Жыл бұрын
Truth!!!
@hexfxtriks
@hexfxtriks 2 жыл бұрын
I've had friends buy a synth merely on the price. It seems to only encourage them to throw them aside. Especially when they didn't get what they wanted out of it with very little effort.The joy I have gotten out of my OP-1 will lead me to by the plus.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
same here
@BigPlasticPlant
@BigPlasticPlant 2 жыл бұрын
The personal aspect of buying the OP1 and what you get out of it is really the only justification you need to overpay for an instrument. Myself I’ve spent way more than I probably should have on modular gear but it makes me happy, so I don’t care. On the other hand my own personal experience with TE is why I won’t buy the Field, based on their handling of the multiple issues with the OP-Z, I’m still waiting for a response a year and a half later..... so personally, nah.
@MFPRODUCTIONSCHANNEL
@MFPRODUCTIONSCHANNEL 2 жыл бұрын
I sold my OP-1 to get a Digitone as I wanted lush delays and beautiful reverbs the OP-1 couldn’t do at all. With the OP-1 field we finally have a nice reverb but still no stereo delay? If they could at least tell us it’s coming in the future then I could maybe relax about the price.
@el_dani
@el_dani 2 жыл бұрын
it would be anyway just one fx per track, wouldn‘t it?
@qlyde
@qlyde 2 жыл бұрын
@@el_dani It’s 1 fx per instrument, you can record 8 instruments on 1 track if you want and have all different effects on each instrument. But it’d still be nice to have the option of a stereo delay. A lot of people use OP-1 on it’s own, but most projects will finish production and mixing in a DAW so 1 fx per instrument, 1 fx on master, plus Dynamic EQ, Limiter/Saturation & Panning on the master is great for a little “idea machine” as I call it.
@anton.che.musica
@anton.che.musica 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy an OP-1 field? It’s easy. 1. You have 2000$ to spend. 2. You’re synth enthusiast and love hardware. 3. OP-1 is a great product and OP-1 Field is better than the OP-1 for sure. Simple as that. No any other facts or details need to be explained 😁. Thanks for such a comprehensive review!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Anton!
@vinylarchaeologist
@vinylarchaeologist 2 жыл бұрын
That Portastudio cassette emulation was my favourite one. Instant character.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
true
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra Жыл бұрын
Hmmm… it seems some people love it, others hate it. Nothing in between.
@infriad
@infriad 2 жыл бұрын
This video made me realize that I need this instrument ☺️
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:D
@cjlewis79
@cjlewis79 24 күн бұрын
Im borrowing one for a few months with the intent to enjoy it, return it and use the money I would to buy one to get a Hydrasynth and/or UB-XA. ;) Solid video though as always.
@landonh3535
@landonh3535 2 жыл бұрын
What's tough about these Field videos is everyone is making feature requests already. I get that TE updates their gear all the time, but it's all a guess what they will actually do. Hell they could go bankrupt in 5 years, who knows? My point is that I can't agree that investing in a platform justifies the price. I buy gear for what it does right now, and never put any hope on future updates. Especially if I'm dropping 2Gs. Just my opinion, loved the video.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
but when you buy a new 4k mac you buy for the potential power that you will use for the next 4/5 years, no?
@distrans
@distrans 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic not really comparable, as for a 4k mac there a thousands of software companies developing on that platform TE could make a real platform out of it (as in open it to other companies) but that is also a bet I would not take for 2k Don't get me wrong, I love your videos, and I really like TE, still use my OGOP1 (800€) very often
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I use my Mac only for Ableton live, so I can compare. And thanks for the nice words :)
@el_dani
@el_dani 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic you buy a computer for the power that it delivers now, not what could be in 3 years (sure you expect to have software improvements but wholly different developer situation)
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@el_dani no my friend. You know that in one year your computer has to be a platform you can always use, so I always buy a computer that ha way more power than I need. I feel exactly the same with OP1-Field ( and many other instrument I have). Beside that, I already am happy with it so I actually don't need much more :)
@xorshidjomjomeh80
@xorshidjomjomeh80 2 жыл бұрын
this is just a fantastic instrument, I bought the original op-1 very early about 8 or maybe 9 years ago, it was my first hardware synth/sampler/sequencer...it really changed the way I was making music...and if I ever have the budget to buy the op-1 field, I am going to do it without any doubt, because I think you are absolutely right this is a long time investment
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that!!
@jransomtucker
@jransomtucker Жыл бұрын
Off topic, I know... What is the larger "mixer" looking device with all the white knobs? Great review of the TE O1, thanks for this!
@ThomasStuartTanner
@ThomasStuartTanner Жыл бұрын
Synthesizer Vermona PERfourMER MKII CV/GATE Analogue Synthesize
@arthurkillen396
@arthurkillen396 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very informative and well thought out video.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@margg_names
@margg_names 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell which lfo he used to make the patch with the moving waveforms in dimensions?
@PostmodernMachine
@PostmodernMachine 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! On the controversial price, something I haven't seen discussed... If TE is sure that chip shortages are the future, and they may very well be right about this, the company probably wants to remain in business, by pricing for lower volume of possible sales. Don't forget that post-pandemic, companies can not sell in the volume they want, but only in the volume they can get parts for. This seems to be the new reality, and businesses need to price for it. It's really not up to any of us whether it's fair, only whether we shell out the coin or not.. I am lucky to afford this, and never had the luxury of the original. Almost none of my gear is portable, and recently, the portability is becoming really important to me. This is the only product of it's kind (DAW/multi-instrument/field recorder/emulator/broadcaster/tiny package) so luxury or not, you will no doubt get to see videos of the OP-1 field on my channel once the delays pass and I have one in my hands 😅
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for writing this. I am a fan of your channel!
@PostmodernMachine
@PostmodernMachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Thank you and right back at you!!
@TigroGumi
@TigroGumi 2 жыл бұрын
I think the issue was the cost in the first place was a lot for what it does and now it’s more, but does more, but most companies add things and keep things the same price… the company makes more profit as production goes on… in value wars it’s the absolute loser, but in many other wars it wins quite a lot of them, especially portability… it’s just a bit of a item you have to love to buy as someone that might be spending this much on big synth’s and such… it loses the price war but is a super fun creative munchkin… take away to cost and the mixer they have where this can connect by usb c and then 6 stereo inputs, you could make such a unique music creation picnic setup… even a fun looking live setup… mini electronic band and singers… if you make music they will sell with it then that price won’t mater later on
@zacharymenard2073
@zacharymenard2073 2 жыл бұрын
Great review ( : Love that pairing with night sky
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks !!
@PeterLeeJohnson
@PeterLeeJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this, can’t wait for mine to arrive in the US- bought it the day it was announced
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@moyosoremartins7194
@moyosoremartins7194 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I can’t wait ..I got the mixer but the sent me a broken one had to send it back
@Mokkel73
@Mokkel73 2 жыл бұрын
I am a complete novice. I want to play with music but have no prior experience, apart from drumming. Have decided on OP1 but am looking for a good intro guide to all the functions. Any ideas?
@thegreaterconundrum
@thegreaterconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you go ahead and get it, you'll be surprised by how quickly you can pick it up without any help!
@NothingNowhereNoOne
@NothingNowhereNoOne Жыл бұрын
Great vid. I play experimental noise music. ( puce Mary , pharmakon, prurient, etc. ). Would you recommend this piece of gear ( I plan on only using it by itself. Maybe te mixer also and a mic )
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
I feel you would have a nice platform to sample and resample audio and create interesting textures!
@NothingNowhereNoOne
@NothingNowhereNoOne Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Thanks. And I should’ve mentioned: I plan to use 1 piece of gear for LIVE use.
@MidlifeSynthesist
@MidlifeSynthesist 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting your OP1Field my friend! Can’t wait to see what you do with it 🤟🏻 cheers!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate!
@dracul74
@dracul74 2 жыл бұрын
Great video... subbed. Thx.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@sodiumlights
@sodiumlights 2 жыл бұрын
superb video, thank you. I would like TE to announce that they will produce the OG-1 for a further year before retiring it. Then reduce the Field down to the £1,500 mark.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if covid made things harder too for the pricing!
@videosarchive8058
@videosarchive8058 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! You convinced me to invest in the field for the sounds, really excited. Have you used Op1 Field midi usb with Elektron Rytm yet? I’m looking forward to connecting my Syntakt to OP1 Field when it arrives, using keyboard mode to sequence Op sounds. Do you know if the cable needed is USB c to USB b for elektron boxes? Would love to see a video of how you integrate into your live set. Much gratitude!
@_fig.8
@_fig.8 2 жыл бұрын
as a fan of the OGOP, field was an immediate yes. they had me at ‘disc mini’
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@atomicbeat
@atomicbeat 2 жыл бұрын
Never watched any of you vids before (maybe one you did on your ambient workflow?). In any case I really enjoyed this. I'm fed up with people feeling they can comment on other people's buying choices but let's not go there... Just wanted to say that you can apparently lift sections from one tape emulation and place them into another tape emulation. The tape artefacts are 'added' on record not on playback so you can record at 4-track fidelity for your drums (for example) and then lift them onto Reel to Reel and still keep the 4-track fidelity on the drums, Not sure if that make sense (and perhaps you have already found that). I know it's not quite what you are looking for but it is a workaround... By the way - I didnt find this myself (I only have an Original OP1) but I saw it on another video.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
that is so interesting! gonna try it asap! and thanks for watching.
@urbanfugitive
@urbanfugitive 2 жыл бұрын
The video is literally about why it was bought... why wouldn't you comment on that!
@aseomg
@aseomg 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about the FM transmitter. Seen a short video on it, but have not seen any real world reviews about that feature. Like, what is the range of the transmission, etc.?
@danielprovder
@danielprovder 2 жыл бұрын
I tried it on my field and muzen OTR and the connection isn’t too stable, I kinda had to get the synth and radio in just the right positions to make the sound quality the best/better than the internal speakers (which are very good). If we're both talking about the same video, then you’d notice that there were similar problems in the demo with the OB-4…
@aseomg
@aseomg 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielprovder I remember TE made an FM antenna that was part of the OP-1 Accessory Kit. If that doesn't work on the OP-1F, perhaps TE will make a dedicated Antenna for the Field...only time will tell.
@sampledude8846
@sampledude8846 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my OP-1 for $599, brand new. It hasn't always been this crazy, no. But the OP-1 Field is still worth it IMHO.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
same for me!
@spyhardman
@spyhardman 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video; I appreciate your method for comparing the tape simulations. I was wondering something: do the tape tricks (stop, reverse and chop) behave differently for the different styles? I’m particularly wondering about the Disk Mini, because I think a more “digital” sounding skipping effect would be fun and thematically appropriate.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes they all have different characters. Sorry I didn't think about that!
@BigBadWolf..............
@BigBadWolf.............. 2 жыл бұрын
The op1 is a fantastic instrument. I got mine long ago for a great price. The field also looks like a fantastic instrument. It's great world we live in where you can find such inspirational pieces of gear. Teenage Engineering make great stuff. Even though I can afford it I won't buy it. There is a limit to what most people will spend on a hobby. It's a professional product that is not built with hobbyist in mind.I look forward to all the videos people put up especially people who make music that I can appreciate like yourself. I think the big disconnect is that some people make music for a living and some people make music for a hobby.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
completely agree
@op-1g.s
@op-1g.s 2 жыл бұрын
Well I had 2 options. 1: Selling my old OP-1 and buying the field. 2: Keep my old OP-1 and grab the MPC live 2. So I grabbed the Mpc live 2 and keeping my old OP-1. 2K is definitely way to much for me but I respect everyone who grabbed the OP-1 field. Thanks for showing your way why you buy the field. Have a nice Sunday 🙋‍♂️
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
You will be more than fine man!
@el_dani
@el_dani 2 жыл бұрын
what about the Velcro, why is it? Does it feel justified, i.e. would you choose a non-velcro version if possible?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
you can remove it, it has the regular rubber feet anyway.
@el_dani
@el_dani 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic ah didn't know that you could easily remove the velcro, it looks like fixed and glued to stay.. - thanks for response!
@64north20west
@64north20west 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I aassume there are people who will pay the money for this. This seems to make sense in your rig. The cost is a non starter for me, and it would bring nothing to my existing rig that would justify the price.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
fair enough :)
@davidsanfeliumarco9664
@davidsanfeliumarco9664 2 жыл бұрын
What about the sequecers? No upgrades there?
@F_letc.h
@F_letc.h 2 жыл бұрын
They added one sequencer called the “Hold” sequencer.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
The Hold one!
@TheNimasan
@TheNimasan 2 жыл бұрын
everyone as he likes. if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it then. my fav superbooth device: SOMA COSMOS
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
cosmos and perkons was two f my favorite things!!
@dammills
@dammills 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is if you are going to get the $250 leather sleeve for it?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I like it naked!
@AmiliaCaraMia
@AmiliaCaraMia 2 жыл бұрын
Your music is solid, if you like an instrument then I say save up and get it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and I agree.
@dankefurnichts
@dankefurnichts 2 жыл бұрын
i can't wait to get my OP-1 field
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@hellohogo
@hellohogo 2 жыл бұрын
struggling to decide to either buy a used OP-1 or save for a couple months for the OP-1 Field
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
id say op1 field will set you up for a longer ride. Or you can find op1 at a good price on the second market!
@hellohogo
@hellohogo 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic agreed on both 🦾
@TirmanKidMusic
@TirmanKidMusic Жыл бұрын
Did you sold the og op1? Im not sure
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
still have it, can't let it go..
@moyosoremartins7194
@moyosoremartins7194 2 жыл бұрын
When did you get yours ..I am still waiting on tracking
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
bought the minute it went on sale!
@Mike.Barclay
@Mike.Barclay 2 жыл бұрын
Très bonne vidéo merci 🙏
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@rvller
@rvller 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed something - but is the tempo setting global - or per reel?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
It is global!
@rvller
@rvller 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic but I guess you can name your tape with bpm so you can change the tempo after you load it, meaning you can have different “projects” in different tempo, right?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@rvller yes you can change that.It could be a great idea to have reel changing the tempo tho!
@rvller
@rvller 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic thanks for the answers!
@amconsole
@amconsole Жыл бұрын
Now that a year has passed, do You still feel like the OP-1 Field is worth the money?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
yes! I am using it live and is still one fo my favorite pieces of gear ( and I am not sponsored by teenage )
@bob-rogers
@bob-rogers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I always enjoy seeing how people use their gear. Even though the speaker on the original is small and "almost" useless, I used it once when I got to my hotel room and realized I left my headphones at home. Cheap speakers beat no speakers!! 🙂 BTW, not that it matters to me, but sometimes when you say the word 'fact' it sounds a lot like you're saying 'f****d'. Thought you might like to know that if you weren't aware 🙂
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
ahah man, I realized that too :D
@middaymeds
@middaymeds 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a video on the Field that goes beyond blind hatred! I want to know more about the instrument beyond "the price is too high", which unfortunately most KZbinrs won't engage in. I totally understand the issues people have, but that shouldn't stop those of us who are interested from being able to discuss it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, I tried, but it seems everyone want to just point out the price. so tiring and frustrating.
@kgbinfo
@kgbinfo 7 ай бұрын
If it had a full-sized keyboard, no one would complain about the price.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 6 ай бұрын
fair enough
@gurtana
@gurtana 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm, interesting A/B/C/D comparison of the tapes. I find it curious why Mini Disk was included as an option. And if I didn't hear the difference I would have assumed it would be one of the clearest, most digital sounding, but actually it removes a lot of top end, makes the tune sound a bit more "removed"/quieter, like audio compressed. Almost similar to a 128kps MP3 file (in comparison to a 256kps MP3 file in its detail/calrity).
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised too. I feel more emulation will come tho!
@Synth-PatchesCom
@Synth-PatchesCom 2 жыл бұрын
Literally every feature available on the new OP-1 you can replicate using cheap FX pedals or plugins. So in my opinion there is only one convincing reason people will buy this instrument: simply for fun. And If you can afford it - that's totally ok.
@Wormsie
@Wormsie 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all hardware synths and effects can be replicated with free plug-ins. The only reason to buy hardware synths IMO is the form factor and interface, and the benefits of creative limitations imposed by them.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great point. you can do piano pieces using an ipad, but that wont substitute the joy of playing a piano.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wormsie 100%, that is what people sometime don't get until they try a certain instrument.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 2 жыл бұрын
“the benefits of creative limitations” ‘justification’ always makes me laugh 😅
@LordoftheBadgers
@LordoftheBadgers 2 жыл бұрын
@@kierenmoore3236 and yet that is exactly why my other main instrument is tenor guitar - I don't use six string guitars because I find freedom in limitation. Same goes for many other folk instruments. Same goes for the perfourmer mk2. It's an antidote to paralysis by choice that can occur when working in a daw
@numberknower
@numberknower 2 жыл бұрын
great to see something on the field beyond being mad about it-- I'm plenty mad about the price, but I don't get to see anyone talking about what it actually DOES. Would love to see the different tape styles added to the original OP1 via firmware update, but I'm guessing that isn't super likely
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your words Eric
@pasxa
@pasxa 2 жыл бұрын
Are tracks 1-4 mono or stereo?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
all stereo
@hiabex
@hiabex 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and explanation. I don't think i'd buy it now as the lack of 'Undo' is a bit of a deal-breaker and I completely don't understand why this wasn't a function from day one. I'm guessing that 'reasons to buy' will depend on whether future updates start justifying the price. For now, I'm opting for the MPC One, it's a quarter of the price. I do miss my old OP-1, so I'm not on the hate train. The ability to undo a mistake, especially when layering tapes is fundamentally essential for workflow.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that can be definitely annoying!! but you get used to it, I guess
@PostmodernMachine
@PostmodernMachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Red means recording showed an undo method. I don't have the OP-1 Field yet to try this but I'm researching as I have one on order. You press the "lift" button on the section you are overdubbing on, this makes a copy of it. If you don't like your performance, you "drop" the old copy which will be the one before your overdub.
@DanChippendaleMusic
@DanChippendaleMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely into the idea of this. Owned the OG OP-1 and did enjoy it but that thing was so fiddly and frustrating making a drum sequence. Didn't bond with the drum 'sequencers' so usually had to settle for sloppy live drumming. The screen was tiny for such a complex tape/track workflow and just found the tape setup unnecessarily esoteric so ultimately sold it. Shame its not got a bigger screen (touchscreen would be nice for the cash) and a proper sequencer. That would clinch the deal for me
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
would be great to have the screen of the iPhone connected like with the opz
@AustinSteingrube
@AustinSteingrube 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an OP-1 at the beginning of the pandemic and ended up selling it in favor of Korg Minilogue XD. While it was a neat machine, the price alongside of the many issues it had, like the spring reverb, made it next to useless for me. In order to actually record something of quality, you had to export your files to a PC anyways to get good compression, reverb, and delay. It seems like the Field fixes pretty much everything I had issue with minus pressure sensitive keys, BUT, the price point is WAY too high. For the same price, you could get an arguably just as portable Macbook air, great software with plugins, and a little midi controller. I think for the $2k price point, it needs a lot more to it. For starters, the ability to load your own synth models into it and not just samples. If they kept the same firmware and managed to get the price down to around $800, I think this would be a good deal. I’d even be willing to pay that with an ABS plastic chassis instead of the aluminum.
@harveytherobot
@harveytherobot 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you lost me at replacing your OP-1 with a Minilogue XD. How does a Minilogue XD compare to an OP-1? That’s like replacing a DAW with a guitar.
@breitbanddesign
@breitbanddesign 2 жыл бұрын
if you are really into music production, the xd is the way better option. So i can understand this exchange pretty well.
@AustinSteingrube
@AustinSteingrube 2 жыл бұрын
@@harveytherobot I can see where you are coming from, but they aren't as different as you'd think. As-is, the OP-1 isn't much of a DAW. Yes, you can record things and make okay tracks, but you are going to end up needing to transfer the recordings to a PC for mastering to make something worth sharing; the recording feature is a fun scratchpad and not much more. The OP-1 is about the same as a Minilogue XD in that without a PC, it's just an instrument. The OP-1, however, is extremely constrained (good or bad), and has extremely limited live effects like reverb and compression. The only massive benefit to the OP-1, of course, is how portable it is. If I'm playing for myself, I like the sound of my XD far more than I like the OP-1. The OP-1 was fun, but it wasn't $1400 worth of fun and the synths are not unique or customizeable enough to warrant the cost.
@subiesojourner777
@subiesojourner777 2 жыл бұрын
Just my 2 cents. If you can afford one, your money, your business. Personally, even though I can afford it, it's just not for me. Instead I went with a DirtyWave M8. True, it's a bit more unconventional since it's a tracker, but I've always wanted to learn about trackers and have something to putz around with that is mobile and the M8 fits that.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@tendingtropic7778
@tendingtropic7778 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always. You convinced me to buy one but damn, you cant’t get one anywhere!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yeah all back ordered :/
@MuslimShortanov
@MuslimShortanov 2 жыл бұрын
For 3 thousand dollar I can buy Buchla. What the reason to get this unit for 2k :(
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
guess what? I have a buchla with I use 1/10 than the op1 :D I think to each his own
@MuslimShortanov
@MuslimShortanov 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic I see. Agree. If such a sound fits your inspiration and style. I love Buchla more. But I do more minimalistic and tembal music.
@trinkssven2221
@trinkssven2221 2 жыл бұрын
Did you pay the full price?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
i did.
@GradyNickel
@GradyNickel 2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone ask this question in a public forum? It's nobody's business how much he paid for it.
@musicstudy1760
@musicstudy1760 2 жыл бұрын
Calling the OP-1 field a "a full DAW on steroids in a portable package" is far from accurate imo. In fact it's a ridiculous hyperbole which was ironically meant literally. No DAW is limited by 4 tracks, not to mention you can't use plugins, record midi clips, or do the countless other things most DAWs (and even the free ones can do) on the OP-1 field. On the other hand we all have cellphones, which are capable of running DAW-ish software that is FAR more powerful and capable than the OP-1 field. You can buy the latest and greatest iphone for a lot LESS cheaper than the OP-1 field, connect as many apps and AUv3s through an app like AUM, and absolutely crush anything the OP-1 field can provide easily while you're sitting on the toilet and holding it with one hand. AND on the same device you can also browse the internet, call other people, and do a million other things since it's a tiny computer. And you already do carry it in your pocket most of the day anyway. It's far more powerful and portable than the OP-1 field. And it can record and sequence way more than 4 tracks at a time. Just saying...
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I recorded an album, scored a movie, MANY commercial, just using the OP1. So to me is better than any daw. ALL of what I say on my channel is my personal experience and opinion sir, not meant for you to take it as a godsend statement. Thanks for sharing your ideas anyway.
@gurtana
@gurtana 2 жыл бұрын
@music study: All very true and valid points. But what you're suggesting is a disjointed experience. Something where for a start you'd have to do research into all those music apps available and find if they are each compatible with your audiobus software on your iPad or iPhone (some might not be, which case you'll be waiting around for an update for your software), or even compatibility with your IOS. Then of course there's the getting used to each individual work flow within each app - learning each one and where the sounds are you want to play, and how to use each synth engine within each app. And then learning some more as you try to make sure your digital routing works - you may also struggle with numerous app specific bugs along the way. So what's more important to you? Pure synth and music making power? Affordability? Portability? Fidelity of audio? Cohesive and integrated music making? Time or Money? You get to decide of course. But you have admire TE's all in one solution, even if you dislike the price and performance when compared to the latest smartphone.
@hans5077
@hans5077 2 жыл бұрын
You love making music with your phone?
@cryptout
@cryptout 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha "the internet" thinks something it to expensive. I can't believe you spend so much time justifying your purchase to these people. Keep creating and enjoy!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I know. But one of my main thing is to try to engage in conversation with everyone. I love doing that. This video is more the justification I had for myself :)
@rooneye
@rooneye 2 жыл бұрын
You know the accessories for the op1 like the crank and stuff, do they not work on this? Thats some bullshit man fir the people who already have the op1 and wanna upgrade to the field.
@distrans
@distrans 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, cannot attack "very very personal experience", so yeah have fun :-) Still, it is overpriced and that is part of the experience. It's on the edge of the luxury-market and that is where TE wants to be: A lifestyle brand, not a music-instrument manufacturer :-) Really, nothing wrong with that I like it and will buy it if it fits my mood
@jjiitter
@jjiitter 2 жыл бұрын
Hey great vid. Question for you, I’ve had some issues with zero-crossing snaps/pops at the end of loops on the original op1. Did you have that experience on the original? And have you experienced anything like that on the Field?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I am still not experienced enough to say, sorry
@jimjamjerry
@jimjamjerry 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could afford one!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
maybe you. an find the OG one for cheaper, is almost the same :)
@musicstudy1760
@musicstudy1760 2 жыл бұрын
Why keep the old OP-1 if you bought the new one? I'm guessing you won't be using the old one, since the new one can do everything better. Which leads me to think, can the new OP-1 sync with the old? Not in terms of technicality, but as in a coherent workflow kind of way that could justify keeping both instead of selling the old and just upgrading? Thanks!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I am just attached to it, but yes, no reason to keep them both!
@musicstudy1760
@musicstudy1760 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic I am attached to my original one as well! And I wouldn't want to sell it for the upgrade either :D so guess I'm keeping it! maybe with the future "field" updates I can justify getting it with the small mixer to combine with stuff like Koma field kit and stuff like that.
@nathan63411
@nathan63411 2 жыл бұрын
No music. Can you play?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes.
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
And as for your love towards tape, for 2 k you can buy real tape recorder (I know you have one) AND 3-4 top end artefact plugins, like Satin, RC20, etc. No one can tell me these modes in OP1 Field are worth it, they are just algos, like RC20. And for 2k you should not need to pair it with external effects to sound good. To me, it sounds like OP1, and has that squary- pad thing that defines the device. I love it, but should be much much more in there.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I feel what its missing in your opinion is the fact that sometime packaging the right features in an instrument makes it different than using multiple tools to obtain the same. To me OP1 is a game changer, and works great in my workflow . Yes I can use plugins or real tape, but on op1 the sum of the part is something bigger and different. But maybe this works only for me! Thanks for your opinion though, always appreciated Nemanja!
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Likewise my man, you know we understand each other. I am not questioning your purchase, you said well, each purchase is deeply private and intimate relationship between musician and an user. However I have a problem with TE in general regarding this device, and its price tag. As much as OP1 was a game changer for me, that inspired me and pushed me to work almost as I did 20 years before, with no undo and few tools, that were fun and protable, this one is -nothing new, for me.
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@bugglebegger143 there is just so much digital algo can do. I get it, for Oora, its ok, he knows exactly whats he is getting and that’s fine. But I am just saying, no amount of lo fi can justify the price. And as you said, TE knows it and don’t care. Don’t get me wrong, premium product should cost premium money. I just think they cashed on almost cult like following and that’s it. They could ve crammed all algos in this world in there still wouldn’t justify a price for a such a small difference in what, almost 10 year newer machine.
@hans5077
@hans5077 2 жыл бұрын
You'll need a computer for RC20.
@GeorgeL909
@GeorgeL909 2 жыл бұрын
"when you find an instrument that resonates with you... it's priceless" I really felt this comment. There's a lot of truth behind this.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your kind words
@Blogspierre
@Blogspierre 2 жыл бұрын
8 reels total, across all tape styles, not 8 per tape style (8x4).
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes I say that later in the video
@station2station544
@station2station544 2 жыл бұрын
The display is actually glass. Hardened glass.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks I wasn't sure!
@alecsbuga
@alecsbuga 2 жыл бұрын
How is the drum envelope? I remember it was crap on the OG and they said it is improved now. Ordered one too. They fixed most of the gripes I had with the OG. It’s freaking expensive but yeah, it’s like 200$ per year. Good thinking. Also the new connectivity possibilities are awesome too. USB c, Bluetooth, fm transmitter which is darn cool. I used the OG in the car a lot and will probably buy a FM dongle to hook it up to my speakers.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I am loving it so far, I hope you will too! Didn't work on the drum side much yet !
@christianvandalstrom8337
@christianvandalstrom8337 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like any soft synth you can download cracked for free. :)
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
It is not about the sound only friend, is about the way this thing works. The sum of the parts here give you something special, imho
@edgarcortes
@edgarcortes 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully curious and creative machine at a very high price point for many casual music makers. It's very sad for some people to bully creatives like you and comment garbage on friendly videos like this for no other reason than to shame the choice to buy any gear for whatever reason. Music can be made for free with handclaps and whistling all the way up to having a several millions in gear and instruments in a studio so create with what inspires you and what you can afford, don't berate and bully others for their choice of tools and inspiration. The field not a purchase I would make for myself but I'm sure going to come back to see how and what you create on it. ✌
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your words Edgar, there are instruments for everyone today, we are lucky!
@Frakaphoto
@Frakaphoto 2 жыл бұрын
the pleasure you get from op1-field value 5000€
@JayM928
@JayM928 Жыл бұрын
Well, I appreciate the video. I assumed the only reason to buy one is because you have more money than brains, but I stand corrected. Sadly, I am lacking on both money and brains, so… I’ll have to take your word for it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
I hear you.
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anything in there jusrtifies the price of 2 k. 1.It is digital, it is not using any expensive analog circuitary, it should not be more than that Perfourmer next to you. 2. They are butique company. Strymon is too - lets compare for instance how much Big Sky or night Sky cost vs Eventide pedal (not a boutique copmpany). 3. It is selling you your love for OP 1 - and that is fine, but it is expensive love to pay. 4. Everybody does firmware updates nowdays, see Microfreak for instance. 5.Teenage Engineering : "No one is supposed to pay 2 k for their OP1". Also Teenage Engineering - placing price at 1.999 lol. Plus that little mixer, 3.5 k universal credits for the two of those? I would gladly fork out 3k for a great synth or a piece of gear but not this. I must say that the first one was a revolutionary machine, that made people get away from their DAW, stop hoarding plugins and actually work with what they were given. It was a time of portable recordings, little volcas, small factor synths (even NI Maschine Micro was a good entry back then). And it worked, it was a good time for a product like that. Couple of KZbin channels made this synth HUUUGE, and now these people are not even mentioned in the promotion of the new one. Those 100 features - most are miniscule, except maybe for battery life. It will always sound - like it sounds, some kind of future pop/beat/wave, and it can't do anything else. For a huge price tag, it should be more versatile. Really poor act from TE, they had a loyal fanbase, totally ignored it and went for a hypster synth. This ofc does not defames your purchase, it is absolutely your prerogative, it is just my opinion. I am placing this money into new Oberheim fund.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you, but I definitely see it in a different way. The excitement and happened this little machine gives me is worth the investment. It sounds amazing to me and has everything I need to create music, so I was happy to spend 2k. I am by no means rich, so I really care about how I spend my money, so this was a well thought act. Hopefully it will pay me back with great music!
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic I am really sorry If i came out harsh, in no way was this a rant towards you:)) OFC you are not a guy throwing thousands around, just like that, I know you had a reason for buying it and it is justified. I am just sad to see one epic instrument that literally dragged bunch of people into music turned into commecial deck.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@earlsfield your opinion is always welcome here!!
@fraka6160
@fraka6160 2 жыл бұрын
Why? do you know that you inspire musician all around the world? your setup is very personal with the model one, the vermona , few pedals…your revox…but make so much sens for the music you are creating. This small historical OP version 2 is exactly what you need : fun, original, powerful, and ready to deliver new sound under your master digits. fuck the price, it was allways an expensive machine.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:) thanks mate!!
@seck100
@seck100 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, hai davvero detto "quale strumento che avete dura 10 anni?!" Tipo tutti quelli che ho avuto.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
e allora stai una bomba! il concetto era un po’ diverso forse mi sono espresso male.
@MFPRODUCTIONSCHANNEL
@MFPRODUCTIONSCHANNEL 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious how people explain their OP-1 field purchase to their friends/family/partners etc? The average person would look at this and think it’s maybe $200-$500 because that’s what it looks like so I think buying this will be a lifetime of explanations and justifications to everyone that you show it to, which sounds like a lot of work. The difference with a Leica/Rolex etc is that they LOOK like expensive objects so you don’t need to explain the price to people, they just get it. But a plastic / aluminium / Velcro combo doesn’t scream luxury to anyone so naturally everyone’s reaction will be WTF you paid so much for THAT?!
@MFPRODUCTIONSCHANNEL
@MFPRODUCTIONSCHANNEL 2 жыл бұрын
@@fibonacho 😂
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
why I would have to explain that to anyone? I can give the community my reasons,but for the rest I am the only one that have to be happy with it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@fibonacho ahahahhaha as a former photographer I can understand that
@bobflick9496
@bobflick9496 2 жыл бұрын
I find it ironic that you are losing subscribers on something that you paid FULL PRICE for!!!!! I would think the bigger issue for subscribers of "sponsored content" KZbin creators would be THAT relationship. As a subscriber AND a patron of this channel, I'm much more sensitive to THAT!! And I'm not going anywhere Oora. I think so far you walk the walk admirably. But with every new "just got sent this new "product" the walk becomes more like a tight rope. That goes for all sponsored creators. And the thing is, I'm not sure anyone but KZbin shareholders and the entities they sell OUR information to and MAYBE some gear manufacturers; are getting rich off of this. I personally think a once a year "what"s still in my rig and not in my closet and not listed on Reverb" upload would bring some transparency to the issue. Sorry for the rant Oora. I'm with you. But so help me god, if I see ONE "funny face Oora" thumbnail post.....I'm out!!!!! Lol...........
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I promise you: no funny faces ahahah. But I hear what you saying, and is getting hard for me to keep credibility, since I am getting more and more stuff.I try to be as honest as I can but I understand that trust issues can arise. Definitely I didn't think that with the op1 I would have lose followers, but I love this thing and its ok :)
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 2 жыл бұрын
With very few exceptions, nothing digital is an investment …
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I earn money with this thing, so, in my case at least, it is an investment.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic My point was, everything digital can be perfectly reproduced, or will be surpassed …
@jaegerschtulmann
@jaegerschtulmann 2 жыл бұрын
Something tells me that the original OP1's value will be a lot higher for collectors in the future....it's just iconic despite its limitations. The new one feels more like a new iPhone, bland design, great performance but heavily crippled for a 2022 device (no expandable memory, no undo button, etc.)
@substance90
@substance90 2 жыл бұрын
The iPhone has had shake to undo since before Android even existed 😂
@vertigev
@vertigev 2 жыл бұрын
You're crazy man..
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
ahahah not enough
@istvantoth7431
@istvantoth7431 Жыл бұрын
I still can't justify the price tag..
@theunknowdude4355
@theunknowdude4355 2 жыл бұрын
LOL It's sounds like a Casio Keyboard, has only 4 Tracks and costs $2000, what a joke.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
and is not even vintage, :/
@hans5077
@hans5077 2 жыл бұрын
And it's white! Synths must be black, right?
@sinewavezero
@sinewavezero 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they ripping off their customer base though? 2G for that is a joke
@samjones3433
@samjones3433 2 жыл бұрын
because their customer base will thank them for the opportunity. I’m not sure if intentional but they’ve managed to make it so that people think it’s some kind of status symbol. If you criticise it then they’ll just be like “well you’re too poor to afford it”. I’ve had this conversation multiple times any time I comment on anything about the op1f as if I don’t have thousands of pounds worth of gear in my studio. TE fans are brainless,
@sinewavezero
@sinewavezero 2 жыл бұрын
@@samjones3433 since writing this i have read a lot of comments from TE fans that they too feel it is a rip off. Which it is. A totaly ripoff and what you say sadly must be true. A markup this high is not due to any chip shortages. So, they are just making it exclusive boutique LOL. A company I could never had my money to. Kinda scummy.
@station2station544
@station2station544 2 жыл бұрын
@@sinewavezero Fender does it too with the Custom Shop Masterbuilt Strats for $8,000, when they put about $300 worth of effort into them. And as a guitar player, I can confirm this. And actually I won one LOL. And I love it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Read this and sam comments. I don't feel ripped off. I paid full price and I love this machine. I don't know what is their agenda, if they have one, but to me this instrument is pure magic.
@joseabdielfigueroa8696
@joseabdielfigueroa8696 2 жыл бұрын
😮👍
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody need justify making a purchase for this or anything.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, but we live in strange times
@UberSynth
@UberSynth 2 жыл бұрын
For £2K grand you can most definitely buy something that at least looks like it’s worth the price or even more. I’m disappointed by the price. This product kind of reminds me of apple and their gadgets over priced. There’s a pattern. People that have these op1 fields all try to justify the price. If I buy one and give my opinion, it’ll be completely true. If I don’t think it’s worth it, I’ll say from the off.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I work full-time in music, and I can't use daw to compose music. I scored many commercials using only the op1, which payed me back multiple time its cost. So I am really happy with it. But, as stated clearly in the video, this is all a personal matter.
@gordonbelfort7176
@gordonbelfort7176 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny actually. Because the price doesn't really matter if you think about it. We live in a whole world where you can get everything for every pricerange. As an example Food , in one country you buy one Meal for about 80cents and on the other side of the earth people are willing to spend hundreds of dollars for meal that is high priced mainly because it's an well known restaurant. But does this mean that the food is better on one of these places ? People say buying an iPhone instead of a Huawei isn't worth the pricetag , but forgot that it's even today kind of an Luxurious item. The main functions are available on both , calling /sending SMS / using the internet etc. Same with op-1/op-1f and cheaper synths. Both are making what they designed for. Creating and enjoying music. So why even arguing ? I'm not saying that people shouldn't address criticism ,but they should understand that everyone sets the limit to what price it's worth and what not. I can remember so much people had argued about the price of the op-1 when it came out and also when they restarted the production and the price got higher. I personally think there is a reason why TE hasn't called this the op-2. But we will see. If TE will get bankrupt in the next few years or if they have just much more to announce and recover. Btw just two more things. 1.Iam not an TE fanboy but a great fan of musicequipment with a special take on creating of music and sounds. 2. I don't own an Field yet but will in the next months and I'm really curious what happens until then. 😊
@hans5077
@hans5077 2 жыл бұрын
We love Apple gadgets!
@CelticStone
@CelticStone 2 жыл бұрын
7th reason, way too much cash on hand
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes, im floating on it 😄
@michaelhonormusic
@michaelhonormusic 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to other stand-alone grooveboxes the op-1 Field is a joke!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully disagree. Ciao!
@__3028
@__3028 2 жыл бұрын
the main reason, money isnt an issue for you....
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe I decided wisely how to invest what I earned working? do you assume all people that buy texpensive things are just somehow rich?
@AmiliaCaraMia
@AmiliaCaraMia 2 жыл бұрын
Work smarter not harder.
@m.g.kroger
@m.g.kroger 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly the price of a Polybrute... my god...
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
But I don't like the polybrute :D
@m.g.kroger
@m.g.kroger 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic strange but true...
@hans5077
@hans5077 2 жыл бұрын
I just love travel with my Polybrute.
@krowland7584
@krowland7584 2 жыл бұрын
Just say you bought it to grow your channel.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I had the OP1 since day one. It was natural for me to want the new one.
@ShaighJosephson
@ShaighJosephson Жыл бұрын
I can't get anywhere near justifying $2000 for this when it's not worth more than $300... It's a vanity purchase like paying $2000 for an iPhone when a $99 Android does all the same things... Just imagine what else you could buy for that kind of money... Suggest not pushing vanity equipment like this because it has a tendency to be offensive to those who don't have the money to burn like you do...
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
i respectfully disagree. the op1 has been instrumental for me. its part of my daily routine. if you get offended by that, then let me ask you: do you own a car? I dont. Id say lot of people owns cars, jewelry, tv and so on lore expensive than one of the tool i use most. Please keep in mind that we are all different and each one has different “vanities”.
@matiaslanzi9969
@matiaslanzi9969 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not worth it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
respectfully disagree :)
@matiaslanzi9969
@matiaslanzi9969 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic I mean for the price. The machine is a dream. I don't know if I have use for it in my workflow though but even the first op1 is a dream. Thank you for taking the time.
@PeaceDub
@PeaceDub 2 жыл бұрын
Still too expensive for what you get
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
As mentioned before, I scored commercials only using the OP1. That paid well. So it's a matter of perspective.
@hans5077
@hans5077 2 жыл бұрын
For you?
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