Open A-Class Lobbies are a Broken Mess in Forza Motorsport

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IsuckAtDriving

IsuckAtDriving

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@IsuckAtDriving
@IsuckAtDriving Жыл бұрын
A-Class open lobbies are here! And when you finally get a lobby without glitchers, it is enjoyable!
@johnsalam
@johnsalam Жыл бұрын
those tuned shared?
@SolidMarty
@SolidMarty Жыл бұрын
2:18 chevy gets no penalty but grandma does?
@TattleDelta
@TattleDelta Жыл бұрын
No it's the buggy lobbies that are the most fun.
@n155m0
@n155m0 Жыл бұрын
In the Word of Paul Walker (R.I.P) ''He has about 10 Grand in that S2k" good racing that s2k was moving 😁😆😊
@KILLERPOPTART13
@KILLERPOPTART13 Жыл бұрын
ima need that r32 tune, when is the big reveal
@hon3ybear538
@hon3ybear538 Жыл бұрын
That last race was really cool, the S2k faster in the straights but you always had a chance to pass on corners. Really clean racing by both
@HenriqueSantos-qv4ep
@HenriqueSantos-qv4ep Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the exit corner speed from the r32 was much more faster than the s2k
@wizlife2050
@wizlife2050 Жыл бұрын
He should of bloked him for the win but good sportsmanship
@pornstarpat
@pornstarpat Жыл бұрын
Glad to see EZT still out there
@Trades46
@Trades46 Жыл бұрын
Normally the S2K would be faster in the corners, but I suspect the rain meant he can't put the power down as well as the GTR can with its AWD system.
@apmd9261
@apmd9261 Жыл бұрын
​@@Trades46only stock
@chronic2997
@chronic2997 Жыл бұрын
Dude I’m on KZbin !!! Ezt chronic here scrolling KZbin eating my lunch and was like wtf that’s me !! My man great race I was surprised how well your r32 handled considering my s2000 is race weight and wet race tire also the rwd was hard to take in the turns Anyways great race dude one of the best races I’ve had in this fm yet I haven’t been playing A class lobby’s much as the stupid open wheel Mazda race car is way to OP
@IsuckAtDriving
@IsuckAtDriving Жыл бұрын
Ggs :)
@lenarmaclaren
@lenarmaclaren Жыл бұрын
Забавно, когда вы встречаетесь еще и в комментах )
@chronic2997
@chronic2997 Жыл бұрын
@@IsuckAtDriving also I did not mean to brake check you at all thought I got ahead enough and my braking zones seemed to be a lot earlier then yours haha love reading all these comments about our race let’s do it again 👍🏼
@Jason__0336
@Jason__0336 Жыл бұрын
Get that S2K a grip tune :(
@Pericalypsis
@Pericalypsis Жыл бұрын
Nice driving, mate. That last race epitomises what motor racing is all about.
@capt.heinrich6945
@capt.heinrich6945 Жыл бұрын
avoiding that massive crash at the start was a good one lol
@Standgedicht
@Standgedicht Жыл бұрын
It`s better to start from behind. Normaly I start in the top ten and end on 15th to 20th. Yesterday I quit the quali and starting from the last place. End the race on 4th place. If you start at midfield you have no chance. And the penalties a joke. Saw a guy with 9 seconds on the third place. While I`m safety S and find me allways besides the track getting hitted in the back.
@SuppositionalBox
@SuppositionalBox Жыл бұрын
I always loved baiting out the griefers and sending them into the shadowrealm as a front runner lol
@ArmaniGolla
@ArmaniGolla Жыл бұрын
Wonderful race vs the S2000! I thought your smooth driving that resulted in little tire wear would have given you the win, but his straight line speed was too much. Great driving :D
@odeefromdawic
@odeefromdawic Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert needs to be added to this comment
@Jason__0336
@Jason__0336 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised on that S2000's tune. Usually you would want it tuned for grip and not straight line since corners is where it thrives
@arthurcorreia7204
@arthurcorreia7204 Жыл бұрын
I was so mad he lost that, haha.
@allorfh2495
@allorfh2495 Жыл бұрын
@@Jason__0336 maybe they were confident in their defending skill on dry so decided to go straight for powah
@ShawFujikawa
@ShawFujikawa Жыл бұрын
2:25 I’m curious how the hell you got a penalty for being slightly off track whereas the guy in front of you went a full car length off course and got nothing… EDIT: It's explained that it's due to the time saved and lost by each respective player for going offroad, which is very reasonable.
@sebastiandragonheart
@sebastiandragonheart Жыл бұрын
Because the penalty system is absolute dog shit.
@MrRagemanPL
@MrRagemanPL Жыл бұрын
Wondering the same myself. Penalties are a roulette at this point.
@Iden_in_the_Rain
@Iden_in_the_Rain Жыл бұрын
That was like at least two car lengths off in terms of width, and was off track for probably five lengths. Wild
@goobingtons
@goobingtons Жыл бұрын
because the corvette lost control but ISAD just drifted over with no oversteer so the game doesn't register the OOB the same way. It's really shitty, sometimes you can get +1 second penalties for being a bee's dick over the line around corners like the degnars or 130r
@cwj2733
@cwj2733 Жыл бұрын
dude that was like a fucking pixel. i’m gonna wait till Turn10 make this game unsuck.
@romanshagiev9205
@romanshagiev9205 Жыл бұрын
Finally, the real Forza online experience. 10/10 eurobeats
@micahatcher3837
@micahatcher3837 Жыл бұрын
Youre battle with that S2K was amazing, I feel it really highlights the potential of this game amongst all negative feedback. Great content 👍🏾
@Trades46
@Trades46 Жыл бұрын
The race with the S2K was a constant back and forth. Clean and skilful, love to see it.
@derbyjr
@derbyjr Жыл бұрын
The game we waited 6 YEARS for, ladies and gentlemen
@Jokero_YT
@Jokero_YT Жыл бұрын
9:30 the way he tried to get you a penalty by braking early :D . Awesome racing though!
@Kaiser3059
@Kaiser3059 Жыл бұрын
His braking zone is just earlier than ISAD 😅
@PeterBee911
@PeterBee911 Жыл бұрын
This game sounds like you're constantly in a tunnel. Reverb everywhere...
@TheKitt12
@TheKitt12 Жыл бұрын
Nothing but respect for this man, using a keyboard
@kvykimo
@kvykimo Жыл бұрын
>the definitive "Forza Motorsport" game >devs boast about better simulation >can take dry lines in the wet i swear this game has a slightly modified version of FH5 physics
@roberthall5573
@roberthall5573 Жыл бұрын
Used to race with chronic years ago on fm4, Matt I think his name is if I remember right. Build him a fwd Kia ceed in A class and he used dominate in it. Glad to see he is still a Forza fan. I'm back on Forza Motorsport for the first time since fm4, and really enjoying it.
@talesmania
@talesmania Жыл бұрын
@chronic2997
@xXVibrantSnowXx
@xXVibrantSnowXx Жыл бұрын
He just commented on this video I think i did race with him once, what a great guy, clean driving & very competitive racing
@mynickisalreadytaken
@mynickisalreadytaken Жыл бұрын
Man reading this really gets me a bit. FM4 was the last one, except FH here and there, but these got out of hand for me. Not that interested. But even if the game has its Problems, i should give it a go. Since it is on Gamepass... A little Starfield Break.
@chronic2997
@chronic2997 Жыл бұрын
That’s the other fast chronic I’ve raced with him for years but seems he’s given up on Forza I have him on my fr his names yzf r6 now I think he’s been playing ride 5 but man I remember that Kia it was fast with the 1.6L swap and short shifting haha
@roberthall5573
@roberthall5573 Жыл бұрын
@@chronic2997 yeah I remember he changed it to that now you mention it. Yeah he used to get all his leaderboard tunes from me and was in AGM with me and RZR. Unfortunately I went to ps4 once I played fm5 and lost contact with all the people I used to race with. Good old days for sure.
@guntervogler8904
@guntervogler8904 Жыл бұрын
I was A-class safety yesterday, today I'm logIn to the game and see that my rating is E, great job Turn10, I'm very happy about that, thx.
@Antidepressiva1980
@Antidepressiva1980 Жыл бұрын
That system wasn't working properly. You got your real rating today. Enjoy bumper kid.
@guntervogler8904
@guntervogler8904 Жыл бұрын
@@Antidepressiva1980 I'm now S-class again, u retard )
@sean7555
@sean7555 Жыл бұрын
If you hold the clutch a split second longer it won’t miss shift like it does. I figured that out after like 10 races lol it’s not like the old forza where you can blip the clutch. On this game it takes a second for the gear to be selected then you release the clutch. You are essentially just changing your gears without the clutch atm and that’s why the gear change is so slow and hits the limiter
@roadbeef
@roadbeef Жыл бұрын
I like how an R32 and an S2000 share identical exhaust notes
@spaceboy9329
@spaceboy9329 Жыл бұрын
The last race had me at the edge of my seat, you both raced super well!
@B4R0N.
@B4R0N. Жыл бұрын
A freakin lmdh in A class😂
@aliharrison1061
@aliharrison1061 Жыл бұрын
Last race was phenomenal, no hitting just good racing.. How it should be !! 👏🏿 👏🏿
@therealcjc
@therealcjc Жыл бұрын
Really love that race with the S2000, amazing driving on the part of both drivers 👏
@BryanRo77
@BryanRo77 Жыл бұрын
That last race had some of the cleanest dirty tricks I've ever seen GG !!
@frankkevy
@frankkevy Жыл бұрын
Great battle against the S2000. It was unfairly quick in straight lines, but you were just above in corners.
@YodasDisciple
@YodasDisciple Жыл бұрын
V-Tech kicked in.
@fabior.9326
@fabior.9326 Жыл бұрын
Exciting race against the S2k Wonderful driving as always 👍
@Henjacked
@Henjacked Жыл бұрын
Last race was fantastic
@sime361
@sime361 Жыл бұрын
You and the s2000 had a great race!
@Itzwill2k1
@Itzwill2k1 Жыл бұрын
ISAD with that very clean race at the end. Pure skill and technique. Wow ❤
@lambodriver217
@lambodriver217 Жыл бұрын
I was in the race that had the 2 f1 cars on hakone I was in the LFA at 4:51 behind the blue Porsche. I was so confused on how they got them in there
@Gondim_Matheus
@Gondim_Matheus Жыл бұрын
daamn this race against the S2000 was really delightfull to watch
@Lofff371
@Lofff371 Жыл бұрын
That race against the s2000 is amazing!
@JackieRibbot
@JackieRibbot Жыл бұрын
That second race was just *chef's kiss*
@Khaos_1325
@Khaos_1325 Жыл бұрын
First race you get 1.6 penalty for off tracks and the guy in the vet gets nothing even though he clearly ran further off than you at least twice, it feels kinda random with penalties.
@elongated_musket6353
@elongated_musket6353 Жыл бұрын
Damn, what a battle with the S2K. Edge-of-my-seat type shit
@killjoydod4937
@killjoydod4937 Жыл бұрын
I remember doing a "hatchback only - PP400" race (mostly small Honda Civic type cars) in a Gran Turismo game, with a Doge Viper!!! I added weight and reduced breaking and downforce to reduce the car's "Performance Points" so it could qualify for the race!!!! All allowed by the game! Maybe that's what they did here!!!
@BrandonMirandavlogs
@BrandonMirandavlogs Жыл бұрын
Omg I just pissed myself laughing, the dudes in the Ferraris I’m friends with, they saw this and told me to come check it out and I had to check it out. I found out the bug is if you jump into an A class race and don’t select a car it throws you in the Cadillac or whatever car is on your garage home screen
@justjordan6560
@justjordan6560 Жыл бұрын
*losing by 122 seconds* Me: skill issue
@Antidepressiva1980
@Antidepressiva1980 Жыл бұрын
Fuck such friends that cheat and are proud of. I couldn't care less about such mindless sheeps.
@DL_LSR
@DL_LSR Жыл бұрын
This last race in the video... It was great! Wp to both of you
@Jonfocus03
@Jonfocus03 Жыл бұрын
That last race was awesome. If it were me, I would have blocked. Nice race.
@gymusen
@gymusen Жыл бұрын
Oh hell NAH, more than half of the lobby got the shingo mobile
@KevNotFit
@KevNotFit Жыл бұрын
honestly for it being a rain race that s2000 did VERY well, if he took the apex later he'd have a better line which would allow for a faster exit
@Deadsphere
@Deadsphere Жыл бұрын
2:18 This pisses me off, ISAD goes about a foot off-track for about half a second and gets a .6 second penalty, but the C8 in front of him goes FURTHER off the track for even longer and doesn't get a penalty at all? What the fuck?
@Antidepressiva1980
@Antidepressiva1980 Жыл бұрын
ISAD gained time with his off track so he got a penalty. The other guy lost time going off track so he didn't get a penalty. Simple as that but today the majority is just plain dumb and stupid. Enjoy.
@Deadsphere
@Deadsphere Жыл бұрын
@@Antidepressiva1980 ISAD didn't gain shit. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, dumbass.
@DarkKnight2845
@DarkKnight2845 Жыл бұрын
This game looks quite incredible, especially on multiplayer
@wdowa94
@wdowa94 Жыл бұрын
Last race was great tbh
@daesra
@daesra Жыл бұрын
I was at the border of the sofa in the last race, pretty awesome.
@Doragonguro
@Doragonguro Жыл бұрын
la bonne blague de robadobbala sort complètement de la piste sans pénalité et vous restez sur l'échiquier et vous prenez 0,60 de pénalité .. mind-blowing 😳 la course avec EZT chronicles en duo etait cool ^^
@benhoganjr
@benhoganjr Жыл бұрын
damn close race. worth the watch. thought I took enuf of a lead on the final turns to snag it... gg. lol, I would stayed in front of him 😅
@Standgedicht
@Standgedicht Жыл бұрын
Like every race I start in the top ten and end the race on 15 to 20. They hit you from behind, cut corners and ending in top ten. I get a penalty for slightly cutting a corner and they get nothing for ramming other players off the track. Saw a guy yesterday with a 9 second penalty on the 3rd place. Penalty system is a bad joke.
@mikblues_146
@mikblues_146 Жыл бұрын
Wait I thought if you had 5s penalty and got another one you would get DNF
@yeomanvanzyl367
@yeomanvanzyl367 Жыл бұрын
​@@mikblues_146you need 12 seconds penalty to be Disqualified
@mikblues_146
@mikblues_146 Жыл бұрын
@@yeomanvanzyl367 bruh
@Standgedicht
@Standgedicht Жыл бұрын
@@yeomanvanzyl367 Okay, I didn't know that. I was also wondering about the 9 seconds. Gran Tourismo system is better. Slowing lines on the course way more effektive than this. I saw guys rammed into multiple cars without any penalties. At the end he got 0.5 seconds. That's a joke.
@yeomanvanzyl367
@yeomanvanzyl367 Жыл бұрын
@@Standgedicht Yeah, but keep in mind, GT's penalty system was completely fucked at the beginning, and kinda still is here and there, but both of the systems are using machine learning, so they get better with time The GT way of handling penalties (slowing down the cars) is nice in race, but is kinda immersion breaking and not realistic at all, also, with a 5 second penalty, you lose 10 seconds because you slow down, and have to get back up to speed I like the real version of a time penalty much more since if you get a penalty, you can drive better to make up for lost time, while in GT, you're just fucked
@peachpls
@peachpls Жыл бұрын
great race with the s2k, loved every second of it
@Lebushi
@Lebushi Жыл бұрын
Damn what a great final race.
@irjonesy
@irjonesy Жыл бұрын
You gotta start partying up with EZT CHRONIC just to get more incredible battles like that last one!! We need to expand the Grandma cinematic universe with more characters!
@DEZ7ROYER
@DEZ7ROYER Жыл бұрын
I thought the s2000 would get some penalties on 1 or 2 moments there but... Nice race by both of you
@samfisher2141
@samfisher2141 Жыл бұрын
"BiLuT FrOm ThE GrOuND Up" 🤪
@xXVibrantSnowXx
@xXVibrantSnowXx Жыл бұрын
The fact that they give you a penalty for only slightly going off track, should really be considered crime
@thetypex1
@thetypex1 Жыл бұрын
My man playing with keyboard better than many people on the wheel
@raydawg6364
@raydawg6364 7 ай бұрын
That last race was very cool.
@m.naufalnurf_nfsr47
@m.naufalnurf_nfsr47 Жыл бұрын
Wow that last race very enjoyable to see
@Sandro_11
@Sandro_11 Жыл бұрын
nice race with the S2000 👍
@albertus26
@albertus26 Жыл бұрын
0:07 WTF, The Cadillac Hypercar???
@Sambysaurus
@Sambysaurus Жыл бұрын
and they still lost haha
@mikblues_146
@mikblues_146 Жыл бұрын
There's a glitch to downgrade cars
@Antidepressiva1980
@Antidepressiva1980 Жыл бұрын
that glitch wasn't used here. they had their full PI if you open your eyes for once instead of posting your shit comment under many comments here .@@mikblues_146
@magsmafia
@magsmafia Жыл бұрын
what a battle dam!
@MsPysoul
@MsPysoul Жыл бұрын
that corvette was so bad he decided to end himself after an overtake 💀
@asapnorocky017
@asapnorocky017 Жыл бұрын
finally real competitive online racing!
@VikkiKuznetsova
@VikkiKuznetsova Жыл бұрын
Opponents: *Spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on supercars and race cars* IsuckAtDriving: *Uses ATTESSA ET-S from 30 years ago... It seems effective.*
@rannygamer51
@rannygamer51 Жыл бұрын
Amazing last race
@GarageHaruo
@GarageHaruo Жыл бұрын
So weird. Youd think the s2k would have the corners and the r32 would have the straights but i guess not...
@RatBürgerSk8
@RatBürgerSk8 Жыл бұрын
Might be due to tuning and tire compound
@GarageHaruo
@GarageHaruo Жыл бұрын
@@RatBürgerSk8 ehhhhh. There's no way it could be that much difference. Like the s2k was leaving ISAD behind in the straights but also had good handling as well. The biggest reason ISAD was keeping up was the grip from the r32 having AWD in the rain. If it wasn't raining I'm sure the s2k would've made the gap bigger and bigger
@roadbeef
@roadbeef Жыл бұрын
wow, that formula mazda was quite a surprise to see on the opening lap. it's not even the carbon chassis FM, it's the old type that used leftover formula ford tube frames and carbureted 13B wankels. cool! also, lol.
@resurikuro5699
@resurikuro5699 Жыл бұрын
The out of track rules need update, or get better handlings in corner, and check bugs, because i found numerous times, that i want to turn left or right and car just want to go straight, and dont cares with any effort to turn it. No the wheels wasn't locked, the brake was already released, yet the car just went straight out. Worse thing when turns the opposite way the car, not where we intend to go.
@killjoydod4937
@killjoydod4937 Жыл бұрын
In that last race, (I think it was a S2000) It seemed she probably had max weight reduction and countered it with wet tires or max downforce to keep that torque in check!!!
@hondish3217
@hondish3217 Жыл бұрын
I like how he’s a super clean driver ❤
@zjsz4954
@zjsz4954 Жыл бұрын
EZT Chronic if you see this good race brother. ISAD you could have defended on that final straight harder i don’t think anyone would have had anything wrong with a little angling
@SuppositionalBox
@SuppositionalBox Жыл бұрын
I wanna get this game so badly... reminds me of the good old Forza 2 days. However, with those reviews about performance and progression issues and bugs, I think Ill wait on it for now. Good racing at any rate!
@kelvinanjos
@kelvinanjos Жыл бұрын
ok, that race with the s2k was awesome.
@BYF1
@BYF1 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful A Class, always been my favourite Class, I enjoy B and C too. Will you be doing any purist tunes like in FH5, those were great
@pccc5431
@pccc5431 10 ай бұрын
3:28 I think that mans controller died
@MichaelFalcon-g3f
@MichaelFalcon-g3f Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call my self a progamer, but i think that maybe(just maybe) if you utilized the low-end torq of the skyline more, you might have a better chance of winning. maybe in this game it doesn't work like that, but i was just using my experience from my past. Great game, it was exciting to watch.
@xote316
@xote316 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Was wondering when you'd attempt going around the outside at T3
@vaulthunterfromterra4053
@vaulthunterfromterra4053 Жыл бұрын
So we just not gonna comment on how the R32 sounds like it’s from NFS 2015/Payback?
@GySgt_USMC_Ret.
@GySgt_USMC_Ret. Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! 🎉
@Blackwolf-ud5je
@Blackwolf-ud5je Жыл бұрын
U are still using the old manual with clutch technich, but I heard that's actually no longer faster than just regular, manual shifting.
@RunEmDownTony
@RunEmDownTony Жыл бұрын
Hate how the cars look like there a layer of vaseline on them during the day especially when you view your car in the home space. I know it suppose to mimic the reflections of the light of day but it's done poorly. But even though this game has all kinds of issues and it's broken, I'm still enjoying it.
@carlosandrescastromedina3100
@carlosandrescastromedina3100 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think you drive too politely, like, you can push to the limit the other drivers a little bit more, at that last straight, also putting the car in front of him to maybe cause him to go further to the right
@jerybrown6430
@jerybrown6430 Жыл бұрын
Good clean driving.. did you no if you change gear just before it flashes you will get faster lap times 💯
@IsuckAtDriving
@IsuckAtDriving Жыл бұрын
Did you know that power shifting is the fastest shifting method in the game which also get faster lap times? 💯
@Racecarlock
@Racecarlock Жыл бұрын
An invisible man at the podium? Who ya gonna call?
@ahmadardyansyah6979
@ahmadardyansyah6979 Жыл бұрын
Vtec powaahh agains the world
@dobermanproductions8184
@dobermanproductions8184 Жыл бұрын
Anything below podium at GT is horrid, I swear you have a Porsche sending it up the inside every corner even if there’s no gap
@GekkonidaeKing
@GekkonidaeKing Жыл бұрын
Random Guy in the first race just said "jump in the caac" and left 😢
@lilboiUK
@lilboiUK Жыл бұрын
Fantastic race! Both of you were driving great. That's definately one to remember 👍
@rosaria8384
@rosaria8384 Жыл бұрын
I love that multiplayer is now encouraging clean racing like Gran Turismo, though honestly the penalty system needs to be tweaked and more stricter regarding track limits (two tire rule), and sadly this is the only good thing about Forza Motorsport 2023
@Josie238
@Josie238 Жыл бұрын
A class was weird, I had to make my evo x rwd to be competitive😂 I wish they would give us atleast 2 open class hoppers at a time so we had options other than spec racing. Like we got C class last time which isn’t the end of the world but I have plenty of cars I’d like to test against something other than the terrible ai but if we get the wrong class I’m SOL for the week. I hope they have more good changes and more gt3 cars coming soon
@Dolores1992
@Dolores1992 Жыл бұрын
best driver in the whole world:))
@Corwinwill
@Corwinwill Жыл бұрын
Got use those brakes for rotation! You’ve got a heavier vehicle so those late brakes were killing your exit speed
@gehtoodachoppa8603
@gehtoodachoppa8603 Жыл бұрын
Is this the same glitch from Horizon where you could get into car select after joining a lobby?
@Antidepressiva1980
@Antidepressiva1980 Жыл бұрын
yes
@TheBlueOne1231
@TheBlueOne1231 Жыл бұрын
BRUH im the MOVEDARTIST in the green nsx lol. i was just chiulllen watchin vid and was like "THATS ME"
@MakesiAquan
@MakesiAquan Жыл бұрын
Dem boys got stik driff
@NekroNova
@NekroNova Жыл бұрын
Geez nice driving 😮
@richardarguello1933
@richardarguello1933 Жыл бұрын
Did you tune the Skyline yourself? How does it handle so well without aero?
@akisalmenaho8473
@akisalmenaho8473 Жыл бұрын
Damn, the penalty system really is strict in this game! I actually like it.
@TheIndoGod
@TheIndoGod Жыл бұрын
After Lap Three I Would've Stayed Off The Racing Line. Wide Track Means Cut Backs
@NJDJ1986
@NJDJ1986 Жыл бұрын
Literally only @0:36 seconds & everybody was all over places! It becomes disaster!
@enigmahammer444
@enigmahammer444 Жыл бұрын
I like Forza and GT as I have played the shit out of both, this is not surprising. Forza is for your casual racers. GT has shitty drivers, but for the most part people play the game for a realistic racing experience as I do. Motorsport 8 is fun, and casual. Nothing to take seriously hence why the playerbase is how it is
@brup123
@brup123 Жыл бұрын
Imagine glitching a much faster car into the race and still coming 2nd lmao.
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