Open Bar #75 - Godzilla Roars, Doctor Who Cares, The Marvels Is Over

Join me, MauLer, Gary, Movie Cynic, Echo Chamberlain and Darkhour as we go over the news of the week.
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[@lancebaylis3169]

I know so many former David Tennant fangirls -- the kind who were teenagers and young adults during his original run who had hetero crushes on the man -- who were excited about him coming back, but now feel like "their" Doctor has been taken away from them. The betrayal of the show's own fanbase goes beyond just the nerds who loved Dr Who for it's science fiction stories or whatnot, Russell T Davies has even alienated the new audience he originally brought to the show in 2005. And for what? To chase demographics who aren't watching and never will? To bolster the ESG score? It's wilful destruction. The man who so successfully brought the show back has returned to put it in it's grave.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Stuff him in the Tetras, program it to go to the day before the Chicxulub Event & leave him there!

[@jonbaxter2254]

We don't even have ESG scores in the Uk tho, so it's pointless.

[@Hodaris_Darlin]

​@@jonbaxter2254Disney has gotten their grubby litte protuberances on Doctor Who as it is being streamed on Disney+. Trust me, the ESG matters a lot for it now.

[@Hodaris_Darlin]

It's come full circle.

[@boobah5643]

@@jonbaxter2254 Black Rock and Vanguard invest in companies on London's stock exchanges, just like they do in New York and Chicago. ESG isn't a governmental standard, but industrial, and imposed by the investor organizations. And, at least as much to the point, this Davies run is being helpfully funded by Disney, so even if the BBC weren't cheerleading the very same propositions as those at the heart of ESG (and they are) the pressure would be there.

[@jgmaurer31]

The Galbrush paradox comes from the old LucasArts game "Monkey Island" and it's sequels. In the game(s) the main character (Guybrush Threepwood, wannabe pirate) get's constantly abused, put down, and is a massive (but likable) loser. This is despite the fact he wins the games and get's the girl, a girl who's shown to be MUCH more competent than Guybrush and (usually, not always) manages to get out of the problems thrown at her offscreen. Which is of course played for laughs. The paradox comes from the fact that a female version (the Galbrush) would be COMPLETELY unacceptable due to the amount of abuse she would take and how her male love interest would be shown to be more competent than her. Alternatively, it states that such a character would change the story from a comedy to horror or drama. Either way, it doesn't work for the original intent of the story. Basically, the paradox states that "This Loser is You" trope only goes one way when it comes to gender. I think it's origins was gamefaqs, and is actually pretty old now. Could be wrong about that detail though.

[@angel_of_rust]

so yet another exhibit to the museum of double standards

[@finalmidnight]

Hey, Guybrush can hold his breath for 15 minutes. Ladies love that!

[@jonbaxter2254]

The back and forth Drinker and Mauler is so great. It's like they've been buds for years, they are so easy with each other.

[@bushwacka5187]

Haven't they been buds for years?

[@jonbaxter2254]

@@bushwacka5187 even in their first open bar they had really good banter

[@WayStedYou]

​@jonbaxter2254 pretty sure they had already been talking for nearly 2 years by then

[@Zathren]

It's actually incredible how easily MauLer can bridge the gap and have intellectual conversations with even the most emotional people. So he and CD is a great combo, glad they started doing this.

[@jaykay2365]

Mauler is just really good at his job. He brings this easy, respectful, but not boring dynamic with him everywhere he goes. Never seen him get upset. Never seen him tune out. Dead air is never an issue, but meaningful pauses are left to breathe and other people have their chance to speak. It's why he's asked to be on every stream even as basically the only person still not using a facecam. He's just that good. Drinker has gotten much better at streaming, but Mauler was carrying those earliest streams pretty hard.

[@paulware4701]

What Drinker just said about Scottish not registering on AI - I used to watch the news channel at work (night shift!) but we had to have the sound off and the auto-subtitles running. Whenever Gordon Brown came on the subtitles turned into some kind of foreign language that just happened to have English words in it. It was hilarious. (And I'm usually ok with the Scots accent as I had in-laws from North of the Wall but even I couldn't work out what the hell he was supposed to be really saying.)

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

Now that's funny

[@Hodaris_Darlin]

My Mum knew my Scottish grandfather for about 10 years before he died, lived in the same house with him & she still had trouble understanding him sometimes. He was from Glasgow & sounded just like Private Frazer in Dad's Army.

[@3dmaster205]

I want a Blu-Ray release of Godzilla Minus One, with extras, behind the scenes, making off; I'm betting they used a combination of techniques; some parts are CGI, others are miniatures, and I'm betting some scenes were a good old-fashioned guy in a rubber suit.

[@Wendy____]

The fact a subtitled movie like Godzilla is doing so well in the States should send a clear message to Hollywood. If the story is good it doesn't matter what language it's in.

[@schwartzy65]

Sisu should have been spoken in finnish and germany instead of english too

[@angel_of_rust]

the massive rise of anime corroborates this

[@Akakiryuushin]

@@angel_of_rustive gotten my 60 year old dad to watch anime and godzilla, when he heard it was subtitled he was hesitant because hes a slow reader but he had no problems while watching it. for subtitles ease of readability helps alot with transitioning to foreign markets.

[@เจมาร์ท-ห7ต]

❤Ghibli movies are much better subtitled. The English dub is horrendous. Aye. I concur. Hic.

[@kiddarice]

If Peter Parker's clone, Ben Reilly, decided he couldn't be called Spiderman and became The Scarlet Spider, I wouldn't think anyone else would take the Spiderman name.

[@Starwarslegorob]

Thanks Drinker & Co. My time is precious and your channel doesn’t waste it ! The KZbin content has hit a low and your crowd doesn’t disappoint!

[@Shino2288]

I hope Drinker will go and watch Godzilla Minus One in the theater when it is released officially in UK. It matters because that's one way to show support for a great movie, and also to show Hollywood what they are doing wrong when it comes to movie making and production. I believe a good box office run will also encourage Toho Productions (and other foreign production companies) to release good gems of movies to the international audience. Good on Mauler and AZ to wait until the movie is out in the theaters.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Was wandering how he managed as it doesn't come out till the 15th here lol

[@itsawoodchuck4330]

He’s in Scotland so it may be different than Wales and England.

[@itsawoodchuck4330]

His review also showed much more support and will send way more money and acclaim to the movie and studio than a single ticket sale.

[@squirrelofdoom3830]

@@itsawoodchuck4330 Its not.

[@geistwolf776]

I love how Gary’s left arm lined up perfectly with Mauler’s arm down below 😂

[@Roy_mustang7]

Holy shit😂😂

[@Wendy____]

I noticed that as well. 😄👍🏻

[@paulware4701]

"It's much harder to review something you enjoy!" I've been saying that for years! Nice to hear one of the professionals say the same thing.

[@DarkHourYT]

I am a professional in the loosest of senses but I appreciate that

[@YegRon]

Can you imagine if they made a Mansa Musa movie and had Chris Pine play the titular role? People, rightly, would be upset. Yet, for some reason it’s perfectly acceptable to do the same thing in the other direction.

[@wheeliebin18]

I always tout Michael Cera as MLK when I point out the hypocrisy.

[@doublep1980]

Michelle Yeoh as Shaka Zulu, make it happen!

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

Chris Pratt as Malcolm X! 😂👍

[@lewiswhite95]

Paris Hilton as Biggie Smalls?

[@ingztyler]

Thanks to the Drinker, I went to see Godzilla Minus One. It's had no promotion here in Australia. I went along and the cinema was packed! Its an absolutely amazing movie, a beautiful story, and a badass Godzilla. Thanks for the recommendation Drinker! 🎉

[@craigcarroll3303]

Godzilla's run is already nearly over here in Australia. I no longer can get to see it. It's only been out 10 days. Yet, the crappy Marvels movie is still in theatre's. Wtf. An injustice to be sure.😢

[@StephensCrazyHour]

Yeah I saw it in a sold out cinema last night. Was incredible.

[@SumDumGy]

I don’t think it had any promotion in the U.S., either. If it weren’t for a trailer I stumbled upon on KZbin, I wouldn’t have know. It was coming.

[@squibbsounds]

That’s awesome dude! Don’t forget to sometimes take a gamble though, and see a film that YOU wanted to see right from the get go, without any other external factors influencing your decision. Always good to save a buck with reviewers, but don’t forget to stumble upon something awesome all on your own. It’s dope. Have fun at the movies 🍿 🎥

[@VanTesla]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. There was barely any advertising internationally. So, word of mouth has been the main promotion outside of online reviewers. Sadly, it is a limited release window, so it won't be in theaters long besides not in as many as, say, Hollywood movies. In the USA, it has done well enough to be extended and added more theaters. Hopefully, that happens in Australia and other nations. Mind the Hollywood Godzilla is coming next month, and I believe that will be the reason to try and kick the superior Toho Godzilla out so as not to eat into sales. The good news is for how cheap it was and the barely existing advertising it definitely made more money back internationally besides at home in Japan. especially in Japan. A good many theaters are owned by Toho, so those theaters get nearly 100% outside, paying itself for any operating costs.

[@Stampmaster55]

I think the running plot point in Godzilla Minus One where Koichi is refusing to accept Akiko as his daughter and refusing to propose to Noriko is much deeper than Koichi is letting on, and is a brilliant bit of writing. He doesn't deny Akiko and Noriko because he is running from responsibility, he takes responsibility for everything, even things that aren't his responsibility. He is denying himself a daughter and a wife because he doesn't think he deserves happiness.

[@Mikesapien]

Ah, perfect. Just started daydrinking on my off day.

[@masonkaniszewski2645]

For real man 😂

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

Yep!!!!

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

This is the life

[@juliushall8499]

I’m at work but me 3 😁

[@illuminous7937]

The power of Drinker compels you!

[@keithbk]

Historically, Doctor Who was patriarchal. He was a grandfather, then progressed throughout the series as a father figure and mentor to his companions, even being called "Professor" by Ace. Then, the TV movie hit and he's half human, kissing Grace, and people were a bit shocked... it was now "Americanized." Time to return to the Patriarchy from whence Doctor Who was birthed.

[@zohzie]

From whence is literally saying from from where btw. Whence means from where.

[@lewissandell1]

i like how they always say we wont go in to spoilers and then proceed to talk about very specific parts within the film 😂

[@doemoo4779]

1:23:53 It feels as if i was told as a kid, don't kick puppies, it hurts them and as a child i went yeah that makes since. Fast forward to adulthood and for several years i keep being taken out of the media i consume cause every piece of media keeps grindng to a halt to tell me that kicking puppies is really really terrible, and i should be ashamed that i'm a white man who does it. And its like, stop it, i dont do that, why is my gender/skin color being brought into it and thats a lesson i thought everyone learned in elementary school.

[@kevinoneil5120]

I remember learning that racism, by truest definition, is treating someone DIFFERENTLY based on their race. So when I see these so-called-progressives elevating every single thing a POC does based on their race I can't help but think "Wow, that's racist"

[@beastiebear7231]

Im a massive godzilla fan and heard about TOHO ideas for their Japanese films and this now one ages ago. But im so happy that it is great and everyone is seeing it and saying the same thing in the main stream. A lot of 10/10s and favourite movie of the year comments from all sorts of people and reviewers

[@Rejoice1631]

I saw G -1 today, and I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. One of the best parts for me was the sound track, which REALLY reminded me so much of the 50's, 60's and 70's versions of the "Godzilla" movies. The personal aspects of the "Hero's Journey" for multiple Characters of the movie were so VERY well done that, very near the end of the movie, I was crying. (Along with a number of others that were at the theatre as well). There were just a few very brief moments where I felt that the movie prolonged a certain theme, or point that the director/creator (s) of the movie were trying to make. But, even with those few drawn out moments, I loved the movie.

[@nont18411]

Godzilla Minus One -100/10 Not enough Oppenheimer and Florence Pugh Bhagavad Gita “I’m death. The destroyer of the world.” sex scene

[@OccamAsylum]

Wow i had good timing 😂 Totally agree with Drinker on his nitpick of Godzilla. I felt the same way at that section of the film. It didn't need to be much shorter, but i definitely noticed. I also could not control my tears several times watching this. My face was glistening in the screenlight. 😂

[@OccamAsylum]

​@@Gator159i opened the app and the video had just been ulpoaded. Idk the upload schedule and i wasnt looking at the time if this is consistent lol.

[@TaterTotsNFanta]

​@@Gator159 Through the magic of television

[@maskddingo1779]

Same. I thought the pacing got a bit derailed in the second half before the final fight. I also shed a few tears.

[@kevinoneil5120]

​@maskddingo1779 Yeah, they spent WAY too long going over a strategy that both the audience and most of the characters knew wouldn't work and it definitely hindered the sense of urgency

[@squibbsounds]

Definitely dragged just a tad in the middle there. I didn’t cry tho. Nothing makes me cry since my brothers suicide. 👍🏻😊

[@HalbdaemonKite]

1:06:05 What I love about this, is that they still gleefully will make episodes about how POCs are always poor and mistreated, yet they will also cast POCs as lords and ladys, which is a complete contradiction.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

Make history accurate again! So tired of this poc dei nonsense. Create your own movies and things from your own history, I'm sure there are lot's on interesting stories there! But no, they're so envious and insecure of Western History so they'll hijack that. 🙄🙄🙄

[@superbrainz2357]

Schoridngers oppresion. They've been put down their whole history and need reparations but at the same moment entire historical movements and key figures were all poc and they contributed to key technological advancement.

[@samuel5591]

Because they succeeded IN SPITE of being opressed and mistreated. That's just how strong and powerful they are.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

Another win for Japan this year! First was Live Action One Piece, granted Netflix produced it, but was under the watchful eye of ODA sensei and then TOHO's Godzilla Minus One film! Can't wait to see this myself! ❤❤❤

[@ambientlight3876]

Godzilla minus 1 is an amazing movie. While the American movies paid homage to Godzilla being an anti hero, this Godzilla clearly is set as a horror villian. He's actually smaller than many other Godzilla's but the scale is excellent. I loved the innovative way he shot off his atomic breath. The way he moved as well really reflected his size. In addition to all this, the story, the characters and the flow of the movie were excellent. This is the first movie I've seen in ages at the IMAX and the only movie I've seen in years that I want to see again in theatres.

[@JSPena]

I personally like Godzilla being the anti-hero mostly because he isn’t evil, although GMK Godzilla comes close. But that being said you’re not wrong that Godzilla should be a force of nature, and not humanity’s ally. I’m personally looking forward to Godzilla x Kong and I know the MonsterVerse has been MCUified but personally I’m looking forward to Godzilla and Kong beating the shit out of a giant orangutan.

[@riffhousestudios96]

I like that they treat him like a hurricane like natural disaster in this movie. He’s very much like an alligator working off of natural instincts and has no moral compass. I also enjoy when he’s seen as a hero or antihero but it’s been done to death and this was a pleasant change more in line with the original.

[@ferallion3546]

In Japan Godzilla and kaiju are mythical creatures that are representative of forces of nature. It’s like a hurricane or typhoon striking areas. You can’t stop it. You can only survive it. It’s only in the West that we view monsters as creatures.

[@Silenthero66]

Going to see Godzilla this Friday, at the IMAX I'M SO EXCITED HORRY SHIIIT

[@riffhousestudios96]

Enjoy!

[@theequalizer9154]

I saw Godzilla Minus One. See it! I did note that one of the characters who was injured, was bandaged like actor Raymond Burr was in the original Godzilla film from the 1950s. This film had little homages to the original film, including the score of the film. If you haven't seen Godzilla, see it. I'm thinking of seeing it again, it is that good.

[@riffhousestudios96]

Everyone support this film if your a fan of film in general, definitely lives up to the hype. Almost shed a tear at the end.

[@blower1]

Every time I see someone in a wheelchair I've always feared they'd could suddenly summon an army of heavily armoured mutant creatures armed with beam energy weapons and a sink plunger.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

😂😂😂😂

[@masonrockwood7732]

Thank god Davies'unique genius saved you from experiencing this fear.

[@andy9476]

@@masonrockwood7732 Not really... he just changed it to missiles/rockets!

[@chetthebee1322]

Godzilla Minus One is not your typical G movie. If you just want Godzilla action it's not for you. But if you want a great story with good acting and very effective Godzilla scenes you'll love it.

[@riffhousestudios96]

I disagree slightly, It delivers on Godzilla action every time he’s on screen. This is one of the coolest and terrifying versions and his atomic breath is legit breathtaking in this film. You’re right on the story tho, strongest narrative in a Godzilla movie to date. It’s a good movie wether you’re a Godzilla fan or not.

[@OneDapperFrog]

Ehh, I think that if you just want Godzilla action, you'll still have a pretty good time. Just not as much as you would with GvK.

[@crawlingboy]

nah my standard of godzilla action nonstop is Final Wars especially with Godzilla vs Kaizer Ghidorah@@OneDapperFrog

[@OneDapperFrog]

@@crawlingboy Been a long time since I saw that movie(I'm 19 now, saw that when I was maybe 9-11), so maybe I should check that one out. Though GvK is still a fun time.

[@paulware4701]

Aiplane! - My dad (who would have been as old then as I am now) never cracked a smile until the blow-up co-pilot smoking a "post coital" cigarette. That floored him. Never seen him laugh so much. Miss you, dad.

[@iSOBigD]

Godzilla Minus One really came out of nowhere. It was so damn good in terms of visuals, characters and story, I couldn't believe it didn't cost about 10x what it did. They spent less on this movie than what Hollywood would often spend on the main actor or an episode of a show?! It was just so well made and for the first time, Godzilla looked genuinely terrifying and not cartoony.

[@ArrakisHeir88]

I'm sure when we see Rey as a bitter old woman drinking green milk from an alien's wang, and she sees a little white boy who wants to learn The Force so he can beat Palpatine, and she throws her old lightsaber away, all the fans of The Last Jedi will cheer that Rey's character arc is finally complete, and this makes so much sense, etc Just like with Luke. Right?

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

"She's the bestest evah!" 🙄

[@glerp10000000000]

There was a para-olympic guy that shot his girlfriend in real life. Didn't make anybody think all disabled athletes are killers. Thanks for calling us all idiots Russ.

[@DarkHourYT]

Seeing as how I was on this stream and like to go back and interact with people in the comments AND my real first name is Russ... Reading this comment just now was a mind fuck.

[@etherdeef4303]

The idea that changing history to how it ‘should be’ makes you a good person, is so asinine it makes me barf. Its like a bunch of children saying to their teacher that itd be good if the holocaust never happened. I expect better from fucking adults.

[@deerinheadlights100]

Sick of hearing the holocaust dragged onto everything. Other things have happened you know.

[@etherdeef4303]

@@deerinheadlights100 Its taught from a very young age as a big disaster, it would be out of place if I said, ‘tiananmen square’ or ‘Malay’ because that would imply something more learned, which I don’t consider the writers to be.

[@EnragedPostman]

Gary has the most epic beard that doesn't scam charities, no less!

[@jonbaxter2254]

Help a brother out, I am missing context?

[@EnragedPostman]

@@jonbaxter2254 look up The Completionist

[@zappiestmango6043]

​@jonbaxter2254 the completionist on KZbin has a charity that none of the money donated for years went to. Its been opened opened recently.

[@Eisenwulf666]

@@jonbaxter2254 like the comment before me said, "the completionist" had a charity for years now and never donated the money..until a couple of days ago? Karl Jobst and Mutahar from Someordinarygamers did a few videos on it, interviewing him and doing research in the public records. There were quite a few discrepancies that needed to be addressed and some(last time i checked) still need to. The term " scam" has been used, the involvement of the I.R.S. has been suggested. Not a great look for that youtuber and that charity, all things considered :/

[@bushwacka5187]

@@zappiestmango6043 Wow, a true scumbag.

[@Richiedoesmc]

Gotta admit seeing Godzilla walking through the cities just smashing stuff, and using its gamma blast had me giddy like a kid again. Seeing a giant dinosaur monster breaking things really activated my monkey brain neurons.

[@pabloburns6840]

Godzilla minus one sounds like a blast:)

[@TaterTotsNFanta]

I see what you did there

[@Eisenwulf666]

It's a good movie. Not just a good godzilla movie, actually a good movie

[@TAKEYOURCREATINE]

Jokes aside it really is

[@riffhousestudios96]

Everyone needs to see the film, it lives up to the deserved praise it’s getting

[@jonathanbaker4361]

I resonated with the character having been a veteran myself. Although I can't say I had faced certain death at any point in my service, the weight of duty, the desire to serve honorably and the fear of what I would do when the rubber meets the road were no less real.

[@garethjames1300]

Saw wish (i was made to) 4 people including me and my partner saw Godzilla yesterday 50-60 people in there for a subtitled film from Japan! What a great film great story no forced diversity and focus on the mans issue rather than making him pathetic showing him overcoming, love this film.

[@ReignofIndepence]

I like how Issac Newton looks like Mickey Free from prince's crew when they played Charlie Murphy and crushed them in basketball.

[@daniellclary]

I saw a trailer for Aquaman 2. and I noticed the fraction of a second of Amber Herd. I was thinking... Wow, they really trying to hide she in the movie, but did that just so they can say she was in the trailer, so not false advertising.

[@peter_schomus]

When drinker says the budget for Godzilla... he's saying15 million not 50 million.

[@riffhousestudios96]

It’s made about 50 million at the moment.

[@peter_schomus]

@@riffhousestudios96 imagine if they can make this movie on 15mil, 50mil gets makes 3 movies!

[@riffhousestudios96]

@@peter_schomus director said he’ll make a sequel if they let him. I’m positive we’ll get at least one more

[@kingleech16]

@@riffhousestudios96Hopefully. Toho can be weird just like any other company.

[@riffhousestudios96]

@@kingleech16 I would love if they used Destroya in the next one, would give the main character a reason to bring Godzilla back while being conflicted. Very interesting what the next move will be.

[@nubby3050]

Hearing a mention of the boogie efap is the only thing that gives me joy in life

[@CaptanF0rever]

I think we should stop having bald villains. We dont want people with Alopecia to feel victimized just because Dr.Evil, Heisenberg, and Jada Pinkett-Smith are villains.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

BRUHHHH 😂😂😂

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

I prefer the term "follically challenged"

[@79valis]

Nerdotic looks like he has a really long arm in parts of this. Love it.

[@79valis]

43:16

[@79valis]

53:25

[@baddragonite]

I kinda wanna see Drinker watch Shin Godzilla

[@MissMy5.0]

Studios used to "set them low, then, let them go" give a 30 million budget and extend to fix or finish. Imagine Godzilla was given an extra 5 or 10 million for special effects. Or what would Avatar look like on 30 million. A good Director or producer will think more outside the box to get a look. Like 100 million dollar Reservoir Dogs 😂

[@averybaumann]

Hollywood is filming the same woke movie 5 + times where EVERY test screening, sometimes 30 to 50 versions had approval ratings under 20( out of 100).

[@ZeopoZero]

The only thing I'm going to say is. There are people who have sworn loyalty to Disney. They will watch all the Disney stuff without fail. Does it matter about the movie they will buy the products . They will make reviews for all their movies and say they're good. Exactly a lot of these people who I know act this way are never going to have kids thankfully. Because if they do those kids are going to be raised on nothing but Disney. I will basically have Disney stockholmes syndrome.

[@Coconut-219]

*"people-ajacent"

[@TraditionalAnglican]

There aren’t as many of those as they might think!

[@dtuk22]

Godzilla vs Hitomi Tanaka two "massive" legends from Japan.

[@DarkHourYT]

Nothing is bigger than her... Nothing

[@Rays326]

Have you ever seen the three of them in the same place? Sus

[@sirchadiusmaximusiii]

I could feel MauLers pain in this since Godzilla Minus One is literally everything he’s been asking for in media and Wales not having it at 😂.

[@MrVidman14]

Imagine being a Godzilla fan in the UK just waiting

[@GodotIsWaiting4U]

It took me ages to realize Mauler’s pfp on these is him looking carefully at frames from a reel of film I thought he was doing some kind of trick pour of whiskey

[@jonugent42]

Listening to you guys discuss Godzilla Minis One, it sounds like you guys need to go check out some older Godzilla films. You seem surprised at their use of miniatures and at how they're able to make use of a tiny budget. This is what Toho excels at.

[@VanTesla]

They probably don't watch them often to recall, I assume. I agree with you, and perhaps the bad Hollywood esc versions are just clouding them from the Toho ones. I had some older family members who saw the original Godzilla in theaters and few later Toho ones and made similar odd statements. Selective memory can be an annoying issue in many discussions😅.

[@crawlingboy]

especially the wacky stuff Godzilla did in the showa era and it is glorious he is also a good guy as well as being a force of nature

[@jonugent42]

@@crawlingboy exactly. Godzilla has been reimagined countless times. Sometimes he's an unstoppable force of nature. Sometimes he's the hero. Sometimes he's most definitely a villain. Sometimes it's aliens lol. I really do find it odd how all these film critics seem a different of the 60 year history of Godzilla.

[@Rejoice1631]

IMAGINE if G -1 makes over 750-900 million dollars? Hollywood would die of shame. And rightfully so, too.!.!.!.!

[@hideousruin]

Mamoa is a bad actor but the director makes all. the difference. He wasn't a conspicuous disaster in Dune. The black actress they race and sex swapped Kynes with was so dreadfully terrible everyone else was bound to look good by comparison.

[@dyotoorion1835]

Issac Newton was white as white can be. Look at the paintings of him. Jeez. lol.

[@scottlamontia5622]

The only way Amber heard would save her acting career at this point is if she went on an apology tour nonstop, and create an only fans account at the same time

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

Ugh who'd want to see it,too many miles on that model dude,those are rent-a-car miles! 😖

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

​@@zacharymcmillan2788As if your regular OF "models" don't? They're equally disgusting! 😂😂😂

[@paulware4701]

In the 1970s, Tom Baker took over from Jon Pertwee as Doctor Who. It was a massive gamble; Pertwee had come to define Doctor Who for a whole generation. The BBC made Baker's first serial, Robot, in total before anyone got to see it. They didn't make one episode and put it out and wait for viewer reaction. After Robot, they made The Ark in Space, The Sontaran Experiment, Genesis of the Daleks, Revenge of the Cybermen, and Terror of the Zygons. ALL before a single Tom Baker episode had been broadcast. The people making Doctor Who knew what they were doing; they were professionals who had confidence in their abilities. THEY looked at Baker's performance in Robot and made adjustments to his subsequent episodes accordingly. Today, the audience is allowed to rule everything. If Doctor Who had been made to the modern method, there's every chance Baker's legendary run would never have happened - or if it did it would have been unrecognisable. Creators have to have confidence in their abilities; the suits that run things have to have confidence in the creators; and the audience have to have confidence in all of them. That was how we did things in the 1960s and 1970s, and the programmes that were made then have become an ineradicable part of TV history.

[@michaelbaker2552]

Godzilla was absolutely terrific! It is not a monster movie, at least not just a monster movie, but you get wrapped up in the Japanese people, their country and the characters in the movie. It took you completely away! Well done and I left hoping for more!

[@tylergoodman3560]

Godzilla minus one is the gem of 2023. 🎉

[@riffhousestudios96]

If American award shows want to regain any credibility, it should win all kinds of awards lol

[@edz1624]

Some fact to know. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two largest Christian cities in Japan at the time of the Atomic Bombing.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Tom Hanks won an Oscar playing a gay lawyer who was dying from AIDS! So much for the Diversity Police!

[@PaulXPZ]

1:58:00 I'd love for someone to do Darth Caedus and Jaina Solo, because they're basically what Kylo and Rey should have been if done right. Because it proves no one has a problem with a female lead in SW, as long as the characters and stories are done well. Jaina's one of my favorite SW characters and it's sad we'll probably never get to see her in live action

[@shawnsdservice]

Thank you all for recommending Godzilla! great movie!

[@agaperion]

Really? In a discussion about movies that deserve sequels, nobody mentions Master & Commander?

[@stephenhumphreys7220]

Thanks

[@HisforHedonism]

Who is up for a Oppen-Zilla?

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Oppenheimer, then Godzilla and then get drunk!

[@thesnazzycomet]

ITS OPEN BAR! ITS OPEN BAR! ITS OPEN BAAAAR!

[@HectorLopez0217]

Just remember they made the kaiju faster after people complained about the 2014 Godzilla. Also happened in Pacific Rim Uprising where John Boyega asked the robots move faster

[@greatclubsandwich5612]

They're HUGE... They are moving fast, it just looks slow relative to their size! Making them huge AND move as fast as if they were small would make their flesh rip off the bone as it goes from 0 to 50Gs in a matter of seconds and the momentum would carry them into the next state...

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

Well John Boyega's a tool, so what does he know. I just find it hilarious he got sidelined in Disney Star Wars films when he was flexing his role as if he's the next Luke Skywalker. Dream on! 🤣🤣🤣

[@geniusjohn8280]

The Japanese lost FOUR carriers at Midway not three.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Yep. I hope he gets the message!

[@DickDickstein]

@@TraditionalAnglican 😆

[@Zugh3]

Thank you...that bothered me as well. Side note, I wonder how the Japanese reported the battle results from Midway to their people? 😅

[@geniusjohn8280]

@@Zugh3 You're welcome. From what I've read ,their government didnt really broadcast significant bad news to the populace at that time. From a young age ,I've had an interest in reading a lot about WW2 because my dad served in the navy (pacific) and my mom in the army (North Africa and Italy) during WW2. Also some uncles served in Mediterranean and European theaters.

[@cmasterson]

This is fhe only "podcast" where everyone can talk at once and i dont care and i heard them all lol 😂 Started watcjing all you guys about 2-3 years ago and your thouvhts are exactly what me and my wife talk about with movies. My wife could care less if its a female lead, she will ask why? Lol 😆 The way my wife was excited about Spiderman was crazy. She was excited only about Black Panther 1, All the avengers movies and maybe Wandavision because my wife likes witches. Thats it lol. He

[@IRMentat]

The Dr. Handed all the cyber men threw it away (literally). Became the overnight leader of the time lords, only took up the power for a change to see Clara again. Invited to be on the time lord council, told them to walk back home. And over and over and over again.

[@TheWarmachine375]

MCU ended with a sad whimper after Endgame.

[@kenewald2498]

What if Godzilla was Jacobs ladder? The main character is actually dead and Godzilla is literally a metaphor?

[@michaelrobinson1003]

I've watched Dr Who since the Tom Baker years. It was tough in the states when the only time i could catch up was during the annual donation drives. With the 8th doctor i got to keep up. I stopped with Capaldi not because he was bad but the scripts were changing. After the female doctor, which i only saw half of one episode, there's been no reason to watch any more. Truly sad.

[@ruperterskin2117]

Saw G -1 this weekend: two thumbs up. Its classic, ol' school Toho, b-movie cinema - but, the best of the lot. Going to see it again, pitch in some coin for -2.

[@paulcarmi8130]

5 minutes ago? Thats what I get for taking extra smoke breaks! Cheers everybody 😂😂

[@Silenthero66]

The kamikazes were forced into doing what they did. If you refused you would be executed for cowardice regardless. Toshiro Mifune trained kamikaze pilots. He told them not to recite the usual chant, but simply to say goodbye to their mothers.

[@Drimirin]

1.13 and 1.52 seem like similar numbers but when you are talking about 400 million dollars difference it's not trivial by any stretch of the imagination.

[@skwills1629]

Remember, Hollywood needs You to help it Aid the Modern Masters We Have in Reshaping Society with Social Engineering.

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

"They will look up,and they'll scream,"Help us!" And I'll whisper,"No." - Rorshach - 'Watchmen'

[@Starwarslegorob]

Saturday morning with the Drinker 👏🏼

[@ZeopoZero]

Going to see Godzilla tonight. And going to the Vip screen. So no one under 19 in there, and can drink beer while watching.

[@riffhousestudios96]

Sounds like a good time

[@iceguy9723]

Concerning Disney; remember that they owned Touchstone Pictures. They petered out in the 2010s but had a good run overall.

[@paulware4701]

Thanks to Echo for mentioning Splinter of the Minds Eye. Read that back in the day, between either New Hope and Empire or Empire and Return, when we didn't know that Luke and Leia were siblings. I loved it. It would have to have an "Elseworlds" approach as it smashes a bit of continuity, but it would make a great movie.

[@benjamintherogue2421]

My friends, my girlfriend, and I were going to go see Godzilla as a group movie. My friends dropped out so it was just my girlfriend and I. It really was a perfect date movie. We both loved it.

[@5wm562]

The 1954 film establishes that Godzilla was indeed a force of nature and in some way or other an analog of nature. The unusually violent storms that plagued Oto Island early on in the film were believed by the natives to have been related to, or some aspect of Godzilla,

[@Chris-yz7cs]

Just saw Godzilla -1 and saw the budget was 15 million dollars. In perspective thats about 1/15 of a mcu movie and it was the best movie ive seen all year, i hope exec's see this move and hang their heads in fuckin shame.

[@VanTesla]

Sadly, they won't. Look at Sisu, for example. It had a 6 million dollar budget and overperformed for the minimal advertising. Or say further back big low-budget comic movies like Logan, Deadpool 1, and Joker. All 3 cost production 50-60 million, all rated R, all hit or near a billion global box office with no or little Chinese presence. They have had low budget to mid budget success and still repeat the insanity of over inflated bad movies. If it isn't for ideological insanity or pure incompetence. I would suspect many in the movie businesses are trying to do the money scam from The Producer's😅...

[@samhmpx9228]

I saw Godzilla as a catharsis in this movie at least, as war being horrible one of the worst parts of it is that you can’t do anything to it, but they personified it within Godzilla, somthing they can point to somthing they can get revenge and justice from.

[@sadusattack2628]

Don't get the protein pancakes at IHOP. I shit my pants on the drive home.

[@theequalizer9154]

😅😅😅😅

[@Spoot401]

Making a note....

[@kingleech16]

This is why sensible adults cover their car interiors in plastic wrap.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

Bruhhh 😂😂😂

[@enriquecarro8413]

Someone needs to show Russell T. Davies that excellent video made by The Drinker a while ago: "Why Canon matters"...

[@samobispo1527]

Went to see Godzilla minus 1: movie would be compelling even without the monster. Excellent movie! Great characters.

[@Fyrecide]

The excuse of "wanting to 'correct' history to how we 'wish it was'" excuse (for Who) is BS, because they only ever want to correct a good thing from being white to non-white, but they never, EVER will portray a bad thing that happened from white to non-white. Essentially they're just saying, "we want all the good stuff to be done by non-whites and leave all the horribe stuff white." It's done out of hatred, not love. Also, the whole "this doctor isn't 10, he's 14 so he's different" excuse for him being gay now is also BS: Donna even says, "it was never far from the surface", meaning she's talking about 10. So they want it to be 10 and NOT be 10 whenever they feel it works for their argument. They're absolute morons and they absolutely despise the fans, and these specials are tailor made to "righteously" piss you off so they can feel justified in hating you somehow.

[@limabravo6065]

Yeah the lucky dragon no. 5 didnt drift into the blast zone. Our scientists thought an isotope of lithium wouldnt be reactive in the fusion part of a hydrogen bomb. So their calculation of 6 megatons in blast yield turned out to be off by 9 megatons and the 15 megatons that resulted, sent radioactive ash into the path of the lucky dragon. A few hours after the boat encountered the grey snow the crew was dying of radiation sickness ala the firefighters of chernobyl

[@isaacdickinson4521]

Saw Godzilla with my then-girlfriend, now-fiancee. We absolutely loved it in every way. A month later, we still talk about it. Gary's right, amazing date movie. One of our favorites

[@halslusher6030]

Hail to all of you at open bar

[@Eisenwulf666]

Not that Dr. Who matters in any shape or form, but changing Newton and commenting on him being hot is especially vile. Show some respect ffs! The man was a genius and inspired generations of scientists, probably inspires them even now. We should give the young generations something to look up to, not this. No kid has ever said :" i really like this character, too bad i'm the wrong colour...". That whole idea is fundamentally racist and patronising. I'm the whitest guy ever, still i can get inspired by japanese zen masters, chinese philosophers, persian poets, ethiopian coptic monks and so on.. Am i chinese or ethiopian? Not even a little bit. Are their teachings, their lives, their art still resonating with me? A whole lot.

[@GJP1169]

Just got back from seeing Godzilla I enjoyed it immensely great story line without the woke

[@Hodaris_Darlin]

The finale of Ash Vs Evil Dead was disappointing to me because it made it seem like the series would continue, but it got axed. I have heard whispers of an animated follow-up though; animated so BC doesn't have to do so much work now that he's 65.

[@samuel5591]

I would like it to have continued but felt they ended it ok. Afaik Bruce has come out and said he just can't physically play Ash anymore due to age and creakiness. Just glad they didn't do a bait and switch jamming him into Evil Dead Rise to be belittled and handed off to a girlboss to talk down to him.

[@alexman378]

The thing with Whedon characters, is that they’re written in a way that when things get serious, there is an impact, because they’re not undercut all the time. Buffy and Angel have some of the most heartfelt and earnest moments I’ve seen in any show. The problem with the copycats is that they lean too much into the fun aspects of his characters and completely neglect the serious parts.