Open-Source Audio Plug-In Formats

[@unfa00]

Dang, that was a well made video.

[@NeMsY2k]

Thanks you unfa. KZbin recommended me your videos a year ago and since then I started to learn how to use Linux and make music on OSS. So far, I have an older PC running with Debian 10, a working FireWire Audio Interface and Ardour running which I compiled myself. Thank you so much for your videos!

[@unfa00]

I am very glad my videos helped you do this! Linux is great for older hardware, as it can be as light or as featureful as you want :)

[@bmusic9817]

Thank you for this video. I really thought a while, for which formats I shall write plugins. Finally, I made a decision pro LV2 - only. In your video you described why.

[@jessepender5239]

Thanks for another good video! I had a lot of the bits and pieces of this info floating around in my head but this helps tie it all together. I've switched over to Ardour recently from Reason and have been using a lot of the calf lv2 plugins. I'm still getting to know the plugins that come with Ardour. I do like some of the ladspa plugins too. I'm a believer in listening and not getting swayed by the visualizations but sometimes what sounds right doesn't seem like it should be right when I'm looking at the visual representation and it's hard not to be swayed by it.

[@unfa00]

Thanks! Have a you seen my "What is Ardour" video? :)

[@jessepender5239]

@@unfa00 yes :)

[@airxperimentboom]

Quality content LOOOVE JUCE is such a pain to install on linux lets go for lv2

[@UMANTAMBOUR]

Hello UNFA, je cherche désespérément un moyen de trigger un son d'une piste audio. Par exemple une caisse claire qui sonne carton et la trigger avec un son d'une source midi ou un sample. L'équivalent de Steven Slate audio trigger 2 existe t'il chez LV2 ou LAPSA. Merci d'avance et bravo pour ton travail.

[@GennaroGiugliano]

Hi Unfa, ladspa and lv2 are great open source format plug in for gnu linux systems. :)

[@lytecyde]

Many thanks Master Unfa!

[@Sam2122-l9v]

unfa im using ardour 6 on windows which i have downloaded for free and every 10 mins it gives me a popup to upgrade is this software is free or free for limited time and after the pop up i cant hear my audio and how to get these plugins on windows or am i not in the right spot?

[@miracleshappen4483]

I forgot... I also use only open source software and plugins but there are tons of free VSTs available nowadays so I use them with Vestige in LMMS (Wine required).

[@tranceangel7480]

Thank you! This video is pure gold to me. At the moment, I'm using LMMS/Vestige (Wine) with Windows Vsts (Linux Cinnamon 64 bit). As you know, Vestige in Linux can only allow to play 32 bit Vsts and not 64 bit (I don't know why). I tried to find a workaround by attempting to use Carla with native plugins (many are great) however, the set up is very complicated for me and I haven't found a helpful and concise tutorial yet. I will have to watch your video over and over again because you gave a lot of useful and important information which I didn't know (I'm pretty new to the Linux world. I started in June 2018). I forgot, I still don't have a midi controller because I live in Cambodia and for some odd reasons everything imported is incredibly expensive here so I have to rely on my laptop keyboard :-( but as soon as the sun rises again for my situation I'll get one!

[@RobvandenBerg290569]

pro tip : if you really need the windows vst. Install carla-git , make sure you've installed *all* dependencies and enabled the bridges in the "experimental" tab, check the config in carla for that. Open carla stand alone version, load vst, right click on vst -> export single plugin to lv2 . Now your daw will find the windows vst plugin, but thinks it's a native linux lv2 plugin. Please note that Carla 2.0 is out soon, so you won't need carla-git but just carla.

[@tranceangel7480]

@@RobvandenBerg290569 Thank you, I will try it though I must confess that Carla is a bit complicated for me. In fact I tried to use it a few times but only once I managed to get it to work and then I had to reinstall the system for a problem and I forgot what I did that made Carla work. I'm going to wait for the next Carla. Also, in the past, Carla 32 dependencies automatically uninstalled wine for some reason so in the end I decided not to use it.I had to install Carla 32 for the 32 bit Vst usage. Now, it desn't do it anymore. Anyway, I'll try your way and see if I get it to work. Thanks for the tip!

[@bmusic9817]

I heard some rumors on upcoming native LV2 support in LMMS. Would be nice and an important improvement for LMMS.

[@miracleshappen4483]

@@bmusic9817 That would be great and it makes sense as well!

[@barulhandinho]

would you mind making a video about audio connections and pipewire? I'm using ardour in arch linux and its somewhat troubleshoting

[@unfa00]

Hey! PipeWire is not fully stable yet, and also - consumer use-cases are a priority, so fro audio production you may have trouble with PipeWire right now. It will for example fail when you try to export from Ardour (due to the freewheeling mode that Ardour uses not being implemented yet).

[@dasenase]

how do i run native .so linux vsts? A lot of the free ones come with a linux version and it's just an .so file that never scans into ardour.

[@unfa00]

You need to put these .so (Shared Object - kinda like Windows'DLL) files into a directory where Ardour (and other hosts)can find them. Easiest one is ".vst" inside your user's home folder. After you do that - make sure to perform a plug-in scan in Ardour.

[@dasenase]

@@unfa00 i did just that. For some reason it doesn't work

[@joshuamaserow]

Hey unfa, I've seen and really enjoyed a few of your videos. I tried to get an lv2 plugin working with OBS today but couldn't get it to show up in PulseEffects. I'm new to audio stuff in Linux. I saw OBS has an unstable plugin for LV2.

[@unfa00]

Hey! I haven't tested LV2 plug-ins with OBS, so I can't say anything about it - I'm a bit surprised they are implementing that - I missed the memo!

[@joshuamaserow]

@@unfa00 hey bud, I just looked briefly but it doesnt look like an official plugin. I mean its listed on OBS but not made or maintained by the OBS team. Not knowing much about OBS dev I get the impression that development is mostly focused on Windows (I got this impression from seeing the delay in NvEnc support for Linux)

[@UnfinishedIdeas]

I want to get into writing audio programs/plugins for use on raspberry pi, but where do I start?

[@unfa00]

I think the #software channel om my community chat could be a good place. There's a few people writing plug-ins there who I think should be able to help you. chat.unfa.xyz

[@PMCRetroGamer]

Hi. Fantastic video. Very informative. Im currently on my way to getting the zynthian hardware that supports LV2 plugins. My question is. Where would you recommend that i could download LV2 plugins from a trust worthy site? Also if i wanted to reproduce sounds from songs from 80s would LV2 plugins do this? Thanks. P.S. i have subscribed to your channel love it

[@owenpeery2788]

Does each distro store Ardour plugins in a different directory? I've been trying to compile the excellent looking LV2 plug-in Noise Repellent, but I can't get it to compile on Ubuntu Studio, so I tried downloading a zip and extracting it in the LV2 directory, it shows up in Ardour after a scan for plugins, but when I launch it, I get an error. When I search online, it appears where the LV2 plugins are stored, is all over the place depending on the distro? Is this true or did I misunderstand something, again?!

[@unfa00]

The problem with using a plug-in binary built for a different Linux distro is it might be expecting different versions of libraries to be present in the system, and hence might fail to load. So called statically-linked builds have all the dependancies bundled within.

[@unfa00]

Also - usually LV2 plugins reside either in /usr/lib/lv2 or in ~/.lv2/ (a hidden subdirectory in user's home directory).

[@owenpeery2788]

@@unfa00 How do you know which distro something is built for in Github? I am new to this, but I thought that plug-in was built for Ardour and would work on any version of Ardour. I didn't realize it had to be a specific distro too. I assumed that if I download the ZIP file, and put it in the right directory, that it would work. I get it to show up in the plugins manager, and I can even select it, but when I try to add it to a track I get an error. Does this mean Noise Repellent won't work in Ubuntu Studio? Do you have any other plugin suggestions for noise removal? When I edit the Mintcast podcast in Audacity I use the Noise Reduction effect and want to find something similar for Ardour.

[@unfa00]

@@owenpeery2788 I am not entirely sure, but usually if you download plugins in binary form, they are compile din such a way that they should work everywhere, though if you compiled them on a specific system (say - Arch Linux) and then copied them to another (Ubuntu Studio) it *could* be a problem if you didn't specifically tell it to be statically linked. Again: I'm not sure, I haven't tried this. Noise Repellent should work on Ubuntu Studio, but I am not sure if there's binary packages of it for Ubuntu Studio, maybe you'd need to compile it from source. Also: I do not know of any other libre noise removal plugin (except for Speech Denoiser, which is from the same creator).

[@owenpeery2788]

@@unfa00 I finally figured it out, ALL MY FAULT, I didn't download the AMD64 zip file because I thought, I don't have an AMD processor, that can't be for me, and I downloaded the x386 version, so I was trying to use a 32 bit plugin on a 64 bit system, UUGGHH. Buy hey, I'm learning. NOw I can get it to open, I just can't figure out how to apply it. I wonder how many more Lin-OOPS errors I'll make this week.

[@KoziahMusic]

Thanks. helpful and quick video

[@kisaragi-hiu]

Wait, the VST3 SDK is dual licensed in GPLv3?! That's pretty nice, actually

[@miracleshappen4483]

Ok, I have to bookmark this video and watch it a few times to digest all the info. I have one question: Have you ever used Carla in LMMS? If yes, may I humbly request a tutorial on how to make the plugins work in Carla ? Apparently even Vsts are supported but somehow I don't really know how to make them work 😞 . Setting up Carla is also not walk in the park for me, I guess I'll have to rewatch your other video about Jack, Alsa and Pulsaudio (they often conflict with one another). Thanks and a hug! 🙌 👍 🙏

[@Bigjuergo]

Thx Unfa, i appreciate your work! If you have time can you please make a video on autotune in linux?

[@unfa00]

Thanks! Autotune is one of the topics on my TODO list :)

[@SufyMusic]

wow 1k views in a few weeks

[@yosoyelsupremo]

Reaper finally can run LV2 plugins flawlessly. 😀😀

[@unfa00]

Oh yes! This is amazing and I am very happy that Cockos did that!

[@merseyviking]

Great demystifying video! Did you get my email about developing a plugin a few weeks ago?

[@unfa00]

Thanks! Yes, I just replied :)

[@aliencreation8744]

fren, what about clap?

[@unfa00]

CLAP didn't exist when this video was made :)

[@aliencreation8744]

@@unfa00 that makes sense do you like clap though?

[@unfa00]

@@aliencreation8744 I am not an audio developer so I don't know the specifics, but I think it can bring some much needed parity to the plugin world, linking FOSS and proprietary DAWs with something that isn't made by a single company which could kill it and sue you for making plugins with that API or something.

[@DavidGarcia-pm4qj]

Who is that at the end? Paul Davis? Haha.

[@unfa00]

It's falkTX :)

[@DavidGarcia-pm4qj]

unfa Nice. I just installed Cadence last night so I can watch KZbin and use Ardour. Cheers falkTX for a wonderful program!

[@bmusic9817]

@@unfa00 , yes it's Felipe, I had to look twice.

[@johnsmith-zr2br]

Thank you! Looks like this is the talk mentioned in the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3WtZpR7ipJ9oaM

[@unfa00]

Oh, yeah - I've added the link to the video description :)

[@SaifSameer]

Too many subliminal messages :D

[@Kenfenit]

It's hilarious, take any video of someone talking with an accent and put it at 1.25 speed. Magically their voice becomes completely normal. Lol elongating speech intentionally to have an accent is such a weird thing in this day and age. Just be you dawg. Nobody that's real likes that funny talking stuff anyways. Only in movies are women even attracted to that nonsense. It's not a flex, it's just strange.

[@unfa00]

I talk slower to avoid mistakes, stutters and primarily to make it easy to understand for people with varying backgrounds. I've recently learned that it's common for foreigners to speak slower and more "precisely", while natives take a lot of shortcuts and blend words together. My motivation here is purely to make the videos easier to follow. It's great that you can up the playback speed and not loose anything, but I assure you, that many people from all around the world do appreciate the slower style. I don't always speak this slow either. On livestreams I am going faster I think.