Open Source Home Organisation: Four FREE systems to engineer order in YOUR home.

[@evanbarnes9984]

Oh my God I love so much that you unified four separate open standards! That's cool as hell. I just moved this weekend. I was already planning on doing more Gridfinity in my new space, but I love that I can roll in these new standards! I think I'm also going to make silicone molds for a few basic components like base plates and basic bins so I can cast them in urethane resin. The only downside of these systems is the print time.

[@handsonkatie]

Great to hear you found it useful - I can certainly see the stars starting to align on these things, so I thought I'd given them a shove... :) I'm also looking at creating open source standards for drawers, cabinets also so you can easily construct these too! I love your silicone mold idea - that's genius! I might have a think about that - the idea of printing one larger container mold and then 'pouring the rest' is a great idea to batch out extra versions....!

[@evanbarnes9984]

@@handsonkatie urethane resins can also cure in like 15 minutes, so they massively cut down reproduction time. Honestly the only thing that has held me back from doing more Gridfinity so far is the print time on my single printer. I definitely want the open standard for drawers too! I use organizational systems when they are in place, but if they're not, I don't organize at all.

[@handsonkatie]

Exactly right!! Standards rule!

[@inminutes2611]

Love this approach! Great content, thank you!

[@DIYtechie]

This is actually really clever. I expected standard tips, but this a good idea. And a good job bridging existing systems. Cheers!

[@imccrae]

I have been reoptimising my workshop space over the years and hit a few dead ends, looking forward to this series, to maybe help solve a few issues. Hope you're having a good week.

[@handsonkatie]

Exactly the same, hence I had enough ...!

[@ug333]

I was just starting to organize my new Maker space and was struggling with the small to large gap with gridfinity. At the same time i discovered this channel and this video. Serendipity at its finest

[@handsonkatie]

The stars align!!! Glad it's helped you think!!

[@aerobiotic]

One thing that has helped me a lot with cables is a simple ziplock bag. The use of the ziplock bag keeps the cables from getting tangled with each other. I take each cable (no more than 3 cables of the same kind in a single bag, else tangling might occur) and place it in a bag, using a sharpie to indicate what the cable is for. These can be tossed in a box with zero concern for tangling. It would be great to see how a grid system could be added to this to better organize things. Keep going, Katie; I love your creative (artistic) engineering approaches.

[@handsonkatie]

Brilliant idea - I love these sorts of elegant and simple solutions - as you say, it completely tackles the issue of tangling of cables! Thank you for your kind comments too!

[@oliverphilbrick2986]

I like rubber bands. I just coil the cables and wrap a band around them. Similar ethos it sounds like

[@aribowell]

for cables I use the tubes from toilet paper. I found that rolls of cables easily turn into knots. If you fold them back and forth, you can put them into tubes (or use cable ties instead). You can place the tubes in vertical orientation in boxes. If you keep the connectors on top, you always see which cable it is.

[@xrayhead]

Nice editing on the video, way better than a lot of YT content out there. I love a bit of OCD

[@EvertZwevert]

Thanks for your vid and am looking forward to the follow up and approaches you have per room! Couldn't have come at a better time to inspire my ongoing spring cleaning / organizing. Challenge: In the kitchen we have a lot of containers and jars stored separately from their lids. Finding the correct lid for a specific container/jar is a challenge, specially due to the high variety of sizes.

[@handsonkatie]

Oooh awesome example, I know exactly what you mean and they're a great example of what I think is silly!! I'll add that to my kitchen hit list!!! 😀

[@bloodgain]

One of the ways I've tackled this is by getting rid of most of my storage containers and switching to deli containers. They come in various useful sizes, and all use the same lids. They're cheap enough to give away or throw out when they start wearing out, but can be washed and reused many times. Meal prep containers are another answer and come in various depths and with/without compartments. Those don't meet every need, of course. I keep one set of nesting Lock & Lock glass containers for food I'm sure I'll reheat as-is. No need to track down the lids, since they're always on the container. I keep a couple of very large tupperware containers for storing bulk soup, leftover pizza from a party, loaves of bread, large quantities of baked goods for a pot luck, etc. The lids stay under the container. Now, when it comes to mason jars, I'm with you. The best I've come up with is storing the rings on a loop of twine and hanging it up. The rest is just tossed in a basket of various mason jar accessories. Regular and wide mouth just mixed together.

[@nodoboho]

@@bloodgain I've done pretty much the same as you! But I standardized on having only "wide-mouth" mason jars so that every size (I have 4 / 8 / 16 / 32 oz) takes the same lids. Since the mason jars tend to be used for staples (oatmeal, cereals; nuts, dried fruits; honey, other sweeteners, stevia; dried beans, lentils, split peas; rices, pastas; etc., they usually stay in use so the lid storage isn't an issue so far. I have an extensive collection of herbs, spices, special "mixes" (chai spice to add to any tea, "ranch" for salad dressing or dip), and various drink powders (cocoa, coffee substitutes I like, instant ice tea). I'm standardizing those with a) re-used half-size shaker spice jars for items less used (chili powder), b) a set of glass spice jars in a spinner (color-coded with color dots on the lids and a "legend" pasted to the top of the spinner), and c) a drawer of short, wide jars for items used in larger quantities (drinks mixes, extra quantities of favorites bought in bulk). It's not that I'm a gourmet cook, not at all, but I like variety in my food and to experiment (hence the wide assortment of dry goods and herbs/spices), _not_ in my containers and accoutrements (hence the simplification and standardization). 😉

[@bloodgain]

@@nodoboho Yeah, I will probably give all my regular mouth jars to my mom or donate them on Craigslist. I prefer the wide mouth ones now.

[@quintensteffens1942]

It's criminal this channel only has 10k subs! I think many people can benefit from watching your content, keep up the good work.

[@handsonkatie]

Thank you, you're very kind - I've only been going a few months, so wonderful if you can help spread the word in forums, Reddit and anywhere else that you think people might be interested in my madness!! 🤣🤣

[@BardCanning]

It's already doubled!

[@tlxreed]

Extremely clever and well done. I've been observing how disorganized spaces affects my life and have a myriad of algorithms to make less so...yet this is next level first cause thinking. While containerization is one of my tactics, this takes that to an entire strategy based on the four systems.

[@familyplans3788]

Brilliant video and will be showing to the Mrs as ammunition that 3D printers are not useless and I /we need one lol Can i also add that the production level on your videos are superb Thank You

[@handsonkatie]

Great to hear you found it useful and thank you, it means a lot - I only started doing videos for the first time a few months ago!!

[@carlschulz1057]

I continue to think about your (3) organizing principles and the (4) systems you are integrating to implement them. I am slowly implementing as well. I am also following your thoughts on Home Automation but have not started down that rabbit hole yet. A couple of items and dimensions that are still outside of the principles and systems that I am thinking on: Paper, even though we have gone through the end-of-paper, it is amazing how much paper I still get regularly. So systems and principles for organizing paper remain a question. I am digitizing as fast as I can ... but that adds an additional dimension ... organizing digital assets. A long way to go. Thanks for your work.

[@handsonkatie]

Brilliant thought - I've been musing a bit about covering the digital asset side, but I may do a video on that as I set up my new NAS. I also like the concept of blending digital and physical more seamlessly, which you might see in my next video....... ;)

[@Chipchap-xu6pk]

Great stuff. From one engineer to another: thanks! Spend most of my working life pushing the benefits of modularity and interoperability whilst putting up with my cupboards and drawers being a messy hodgepodge! Liked and subscribed.

[@saffeld]

Ooh, I'm so glad I already own a 3D printer. 😂 Looking forward to this series. 😊

[@handsonkatie]

Oh, then you'll be well equipped .... and avoid my clamps..... 😂😂

[@StevenVeldt]

You have my attention. Great content and delivery, dash of humor, bit of nerdy and a pinch of allure

[@oakld]

Honestly I think she's an actress and there's a team of people behind preparing the content. Unless she's a genius engineer and artist, capable of freehand video shooting of herself from a distance, printing printfarm-scalw jobs on 1 printer, a lifting expert, goood mechanical engineer with many design capabilities, programmer, reasonable electric engineer, good actress in front of the camera, etc. Still it's a very good content, very open source oriented, pro-social and beneficial, 👍👍👏

[@woofiewill]

@@oakld How fucking rude to reduce her to a sock puppet. All because it's too hard for you to believe that a woman has spent a lot of time and effort developing these skills, unlike you

[@andy_warb]

Here's the thorn in MY side... my 3d printed models! I have an obsession with printing and displaying all sorts of robots, from ED-209 to R2D2. Some big, some small - I want to display them but they take up sooo much shelf space and I'm rapidly running out (Probably going to just need some more floating shelves!)

[@handsonkatie]

Oooh - open source shelves and cabinets required??? Coming up.....! 🥰

[@chrisdixon5241]

@@handsonkatie nice! I've actually been thinking I'd like to give designing and 3d printing some furniture a go (I need to make a custom shelving unit to fill an odd shaped space in the bedroom - but then I thought... why not do garden seats, maybe a table, ...)

[@RicardoJPGomes]

Loving this idea. I sat here trying to find a mess use case that could really stress test your systems, so how about these: - opened bags of crisps, and similar, "baggy" items that we don't really want to move to another container and have a relatively small lifespan. - consumable first-in-first-out storage like groceries (I might be hungry 🙂) Also I got to say your videos are really cool, the combination of nerdiness and editing skills is on point

[@handsonkatie]

Ooh I love these ideas - I'll tackle the crisp idea in the kitchen, got some ideas already - great use case! Thanks for your kind comments too - the nerdiness I can't help, but the editing skills will hopefully improve!

[@Sylvan_dB]

To close the open bags, I use standard office supply binder clips. Commercial products sold especially for bags are harder to use or less durable/sturdy. Simply fold the corners on the open end of the bag in to make a point, fold the point over 3-4 times, clip it. Now where to put those bags...

[@RicardoJPGomes]

@@Sylvan_dB I use clothes line clips (not sure if this is the actual name in english), but indeed the "mess" comes more from were to put them. Currently they go on a shelf in the pantry, but it does not seem right, so I'm eager to see Katie's approach.

[@bloodgain]

I think my biggest problem is the one most of us face: flat surfaces collect random items until it gets bad enough that I deal with it. And then half of that stuff gets tossed in a different room that is just collecting random items I don't know where or can't be bothered to store. Of course, the underlying issue is probably a lack of organized storage (and a little laziness...). However, I did try organizing my linen closet so that medical/first aid supplies and toiletries all had a tupperware bin to go to. Some of them are too full, and there's not enough room to store more bins, even though there's technically usable space if it was organized differently. And I still have to dig through a bin to find what I need. It's the default for commercially-available storage, but it's just not a great system!

[@handsonkatie]

Think you're spot on bloodgain - lack of storage places is exactly where this begins. If our brains have an obvious place to put things, it's cognitively 'easy', if we need to think of a location, it's 'hard' - ie doesn't get done. Your second comment is exactly where I'm been redesigning in this video - it's amazing how unstandardised and unadaptable the commercial storage solutions are....!

[@nodoboho]

For bathroom items, if I have to combine items in a single bin, I try to "batch" them using ziploc bags of various sizes. So maybe toothpastes in one, toothbrushes in another, etc. with all the "oral hygiene" stuff in one bin. I use plastic chests of drawers (Sterilite) of different sizes under my bathroom and kitchen sinks, where they fit well on either side of the drainpipe and keep things organized in that otherwise big, open space.) I, too, struggle with the "too much trouble to figure out where to put this" problem. The clutter and organization books/articles/videos I look at (instead of actually decluttering/organizing) sometimes say that if you don't have room to store all your stuff... _you've got too much stuff_ ! Instead of getting more storage containers, the recommendation is to reduce the amount of stuff to fit the storage space you have. I think they have a point. (I'm working on it....)

[@bloodgain]

@@nodoboho I definitely have too much stuff! I don't want to just toss meds, first aid stuff, and toiletries that will be good for years, though. I should probably donate a bunch of it. If I had a basement, I'd buy some used store shelving and build my own little stop-and-shop in it!

[@handsonkatie]

This is a great chat - probably a video in its own right. There's this quantum of 'need' - ie there's rarely any issue with deciding about whether to keep those things you use all the time, nor those things you never need. The vast majority of stuff is in the variable value space - all those nuts, bolts, washers, meds, brackets, tapes and so on are pretty low value most of the time.... but when you need them for that broken bracket, sore head or whatever, they're super valuable to have and actually very expensive to not. Eg having to stop the project, drive down to the big box store (time/cost), buy a bag of bolts (high cost) and drive back. I love the idea of a stop-and-shop - wouldn't it be amazing if we could 'share' online all the components and bits and bobs we're happy to share with neighbours...!

[@bloodgain]

@@handsonkatie Oh, gosh, yes, like a shared maker space but for sharing bits and bobs that only have value in avoiding a shopping trip for one little thing! I just saw a post on the local subreddit where somebody was looking for a local source for a Raspberry Pi and some 74-series chips, and a couple of people chimed in to say they had some they'd trade for if the OP couldn't find any.

[@GlennBrockett]

I have already started with Gridfinity and love the modularity of it. I like your Neogrid, blending Gridfinity, printed parts and available slats. I was starting to use HSW, but like the multiboard approach. I will likely switch over to it. Some of my HSW parts can be adapted to it. Others may find limited use on one wall, (that may be departing soon anyway.) I have french cleat on my wall over my heavy workbench, and enjoy how easy it is to build a new fixture for it. I have several of the square shelving units (1 foot by 1 foot grid) that I am trying to figure something out for. They end up taking square bins that accumulate clutter. I'm thinking some kind of drawer inserts to put other organizers in.

[@handsonkatie]

Love it Glenn - sounds like you and me think alike! Regarding the shelving units, yes, I find vertical height is often the challenge area - too much air and not enough storage. I often end up building in shallow drawers to allow me to have a stack of them within the cube, then I just rebuild the shelving units myself....!

[@BardCanning]

This is one of the best put-together videos on youtube. Well organised, you could say

[@handsonkatie]

Thank you, glad you found it helpful! And extra points for the pun! ;)

[@JohnVanderbeck]

I've been 3d printing custom designed pieces that fit on a French cleat wall for my garage. My woodworking skills really aren't up to the challenge of making holders and what not but I can design them for 3d printing easy enough! It's surprising how strong a good 3d print can be and they hang on the cleats no problem. I even have 3d printed shelves with a gridfinity base that hang on the cleats.

[@handsonkatie]

We're like twins from across the world! Yes, I've done exactly the same! People wildly underestimate how strong 3D Printed cleats can be - they're super convenient to produce and have all the advantages of french cleats of wood! I'm going to cover all this in my workshop series, so there'll be masses of free things for you to pinch for your workshop!

[@kevinroell9007]

The question is, can I use this video to convince my wife that I'm really buying a 3D printer to reduce her stress? I'm doing her a favor.

[@jaybo2099]

That's not how it will happen. You will get to purchase your printer, but never get to use the darn thing because she will take it over. I hear you now. Buy two printers right? Nope. Now she has doubled her output of creativity while you are still trying to figure out where you went wrong. Ask me how I know. 😂😂😂

[@mobu6945]

😂 - a wife

[@handsonkatie]

😚😚😇 Guilty as charged, sir.... 🤭

[@PaulSmith-zs5je]

So glad you said French Cleat as I just finished lining workshop walls.. now to print storage items to mount on the cleats.

[@handsonkatie]

A fine choice indeed - they'll serve you well! I'm going to upload a whole pile of 3d print components that connect to french cleats too - even 3d printed french cleats are helpful themselves sometimes!

[@actiondefence]

I'm no engineer, in fact I'm more of a Necessity DIY'er.. 😂. However, the last thing I made from scratch was French Cleat to store my chisels in my shed....

[@handsonkatie]

@@actiondefence Well then you're already 25% of the way there....🤓

[@myyoutubepage1]

I'm glad I found this video. I had also settled on french cleats + multiboard + gridfinity. Neogrid seems like the missing link for what I've been using milk crates for. I'm excited to start with it.

[@handsonkatie]

Great minds think alike!! Sounds like you're ready to rock then!!

[@nilox4037]

Metric system for the win

[@handsonkatie]

Metric wins hands down on any scientific/precise measurement - imperial has it's place as it's based on 'things' so its often more relevant - eg a 6 foot+ man is a tall man, whereas a 180cm man or 185cm man - in this case the precision of metric loses the ability to broadly group. Other than that, metric wins!

[@chrisdixon5241]

Like you, I love curves. Nature knows what it's doing, and they are a joy to look at! But you are absolutely correct that grids are the best way to organise our world. I discovered gridfinity about a year ago and also know french cleats. Thanks for introducing the other 2, they do appear to be a knock out combination (though I think Zack covered using gridfinity for the walls too). I'm looking forward to this series, especially suggestions on hanging really heavy items on a wall - think server racks and other hardware for example. If you can suggest approximately how much weight each solution could support on different wall types (real brick, partition wall, etc.) and the best ways to attach the grid support to them that would be amazing!

[@handsonkatie]

Oooh great suggestions - yes Gridfinity 'sort of' works for the wall, but it doesn't really mechanically fix, so for some items you just need screws - multiboard is great for this. On the hanging weights, great idea - although I might go one better and just strength test the lot of them!

[@chrisdixon5241]

@@handsonkatie also, completely off-topic... After watching your previous video and discovering your channel, I went on a bit of a "binge" to see what else you had published, and noticed that you had a few welsh words in some vids - more please, I love learning languages :) Even more off-topic, if you could find a way to slip in that long welsh place name that everyone mentiones but noone can remember (you know the one ;)), said by a real welsh person and then maybe slowly broken down into the sounds so the rest of us can try to remember it, that would be cool (I seem to manage to remember some of the bits in the middle, and of course the end like most people)

[@handsonkatie]

​@@chrisdixon5241😂😂😂 My nain and taid lived near there, so of course i can - ill see if i can work it in.... 😂

[@cyclemadkiwi]

My 3D printer is at the ready.....bring it on 😉 Still.....I do like the look of your.....clamps 😅 This is soooo brilliant 👏

[@handsonkatie]

Great to hear!!

[@rebeccakeller4666]

just bought wood and a saw today so i can make french cleats - I'd come to the same conclusion!! I didn't know about neogrid but 100% adding it to my too-print list, so THANK YOU for that. Love that its gridfinity compatible. The only thing I'm on the fence about is multiboard -- honeycomb wall system seems more popular though? and more community engagement too. But I confess I like the look of multiboard though. I have visions of putting up french cleats in my mudroom so I can put shoe shelves but then also make a multiboard-or-honeycomb-wall-system that attaches to the french celat, so I can have a small section that also is just, like, random little hooks and a place to put the dog's foot-cleaning cloths, and hook umbrellas to and so on.... Hm.... maybe the multiboard's holding weight makes it the winner though the fact that multiboard is, like, just one guy.. so much of gridfinity is also about how many other people are making models (so i dont have to). i haven't printed any HWS yet but I was going to... so on the fence about the small/vertical

[@handsonkatie]

Hey Rebecca! 👋 😊 Brilliant approach and think you're working through it in the right way, ie logically! Multiboard is definitely superior in my view (I played with honeycomb, pegboards and so on) - the holding weight of 20kg+ and the ability to screw is so much more useful. You know there's also honeycomb converters for Multiboard? (Ie so all the honeycomb models will work with it?). Likewise for pegboard, Gridfinity and more. It is overcomplicated, hence my approach to just KISS it all, but the basic system is great! But have a play, it's all free so just test honeycomb, Multiboard etc and go with what works, but you won't regret the french cleats!! (I've got a range of adapters for those too - eg 3d printed french cleat holders etc!!)

[@rebeccakeller4666]

@@handsonkatie I've been doing french cleats in home and now in garage, with plans to do some in the various points throughout. I love that they can hold weight and I'm slowly working towards being able to do something I can put in my house (roundovers and painted and sanded) and using the garage as learning. I couldn't do multiboard though. I printed the test package, and I get your idea of just cherry-picking the must-needs. But I was consumed with frustration at the system and complexity and creator, the lack of documentation. It might be technically superior solution but I'm going with Ikea skadis. When french cleats didn't go well or my gridfinity failed I was still filled with joy and eagerness and willingness to work through it and figure things out, combined with the underlying simplicity. every experience with multiboard just made me cranky and I realized it was okay to gravitate toward joy. Maybe when Multiboard settles down I could reconsider, but in the meantime skadis seems simple enough for what I need, can hold enough weight for me, has lots of 3dprinted add-ons, and I can probably manage my own skadis additions so I'm pretty happy with it overall Still loving your approach to organization, it's been very influentical on me. I am trying to keep in mind a preference for simple reusable bins instead of super-customized things - very insightful!

[@handsonkatie]

@@rebeccakeller4666 Heh, I do know what you mean - as I covered, I really just use three or four multiboard components and ignore the rest (using Gridfinity or David D's solution which does everything I need) - check out my video coming out today for even more examples of this, but note how I really just use one multiboard grid and a custom snap connector to do everything! As you say, keep enjoying the organising though, that's the most important thing!! 😊

[@Notone6789]

Looking forward to more in this series!

[@Jacksciclunaphotography]

Great video. I love your style of informative videos. I have one 3D printer, and the second one is coming. I will be using your techniques in my home office.

[@handsonkatie]

Great to hear Jack! Oooh I'm redesigning my home office in the coming weeks, I'll run videos on that too, so let me know if anything you want to solve in particular and I'll try and incorporate, otherwise, hopefully it'll give you some food for thought!!

[@Notone6789]

I look forward to the next videos in this series and if you could organize them into a playlist, I would be grateful.

[@handsonkatie]

Great point, there's a bit of a collection emerging - will add playlists (and next video on this topic up next.... ;) )

[@aazjo]

Oh my! Do you have clamps in your bed-side drawer? Going to invest in each of these organizational systems.

[@handsonkatie]

You never know when clamps might be handy....! 😂🗜️ Glad you enjoyed!!

[@luistariba9663]

Wow i just discovered you channel and I F$%#ng love it! thanks for the 3d designs! you are the best keep the good content coming!

[@handsonkatie]

Well F$%#ng thank you! 😅 Lots more coming up, but keep sharing ideas and problems, so I can try and fix them all - love the ideas!

[@jimallen8238]

Thanks for the insights into something so practical. Unfortunately, I got in trouble when my wife caught me smiling from across the room while I was watching your video. I may have to watch your future videos in private, 😅

[@senjos]

Amazing!!! Looking forward to this project! Do you have a idea how the Multiboard system can be used like IKEA Skadis system, that can be attached to a freestanding desk?

[@handsonkatie]

I've done exactly this in my workshop, so watch out for that video and I'll share more details! But yes you can get freestanding attachments like this: thangs.com/search/%22MB25%22%20creator%3A%22Keep%20Making%22?scope=thangs&view=list&affiliateCode=hendricks Is that what you mean?

[@senjos]

@@handsonkatie Yes, right this. I'm asking myself how stable the Multiboard is when it's freestanding. I'm looking forward to learn from your workshop organisation!!

[@handsonkatie]

​@@senjossuper, well let's see and I can obviously design a super stable version if needed! 😊

[@senjos]

@@handsonkatie ☺☺

[@senjos]

@_handsonKatie2440 So many hearts 🥰

[@usa-earth]

Katie, one of the major drawbacks of organization imo is the time and investment put into prior or existing organization attempts. For instance, my wife and I built a new house and have A LOT of items of all kinds and all sizes just in boxes in the basement. Christmas decorations, other home decorations, kitchen organization items, clothing, tools, electronics, etc. So far, our organizational ideas have consisted of building three 7ft high, 30" deep, and with 4 tiers including the concrete floor. - 24' long in total.. We have purchased semi-transparent storage containers that are roughly 18"H X 20" W X 30" L. These have opaque lids, but our idea is that with using a labeler and the fact they are transparent allows us to see what's in them without opening them up unnecessarily. To begin our organizational journey, we are determining 2 things. 1. Do we want to keep this? 2. How soon will we use this? Answer to question one is either Yes or No of course, if no, trash it or sell it... For question 2, Imminent use goes on Tiers 1 and 2 - most accessible with later possible use going on tiers 3 and 4 at the top, less accessible of course. I really like your methodology, but not certain how could be reasonably applied to our home. I will say that if I had time and energy, applying what you here to my workshop for tools, nails, screws, etc, sounds feasible. I do really look forward to seeing how you have applied this first hand to your home for a guide and as a reference....

[@handsonkatie]

Brilliant thinking here and you're spot on - I've got a video this week showing how I've applied it to my craft room that touches on your exact points (eg frequency of use and so on). Remember with a 3d printer, it's not your time and energy - you'd hit 'print' on 25 boxes and leave it to work away overnight!

[@richardwatkins6725]

Absolute Genius and for the average ADHDer its a game changer. Certainly going to allow me to tidy my draw of doom and my socks will have a home 🥰

[@handsonkatie]

Glad it helped!

[@gavintheurquhart]

FAN.... TASTIC. I love this. FINALLY - I feel like I'm so close to actually being able to sort things out. This is just the thing. I have been struggling with a concept. I'm familiar with Gridfinity but wasn't aware of Multiboard plus your addons. What I would really appreciate seeing is a PROPER chaos to organised. The problem is I never know where to start. And every video I see on this topic doesn't match my situation. However your approach of adaptable is game changing for me. Would love to see more.

[@handsonkatie]

Well keep watching, I'll be covering lots of other rooms in future - including a big project this summer!

[@gavintheurquhart]

@@handsonkatie excited much!! Is that wrong? Should I be THIS excited about organising?

[@handsonkatie]

@@gavintheurquhart it's so wrong, it's right!! 😂😂😂

[@jaybo2099]

Ok, now how do we apply this same concept to car camping / overland gear storage? My wife and I have a big camping trip planned for the end of this summer. It's always a struggle planning on what to take, where to store it, and how to access everything. It starts great, but ends up a chaotic mess shortly into a camping trip. I have been researching SUV camp drawer and kitchen builds for months, and now you've really got me thinking!

[@handsonkatie]

That's a great use case, I could see loads of cool uses that you could apply!!

[@aribowell]

I didn't know Gridfinity, but mainly because I ignored it, I actually thought I don't need such a system (I don't have many drawers). But you convinced me that it may indeed be useful beyond drawers. I especially like the converter things... that's a really good idea. I already thought, using boxes on a multiboard would not be flexible enough. I would usually take some boxes to the place I work with them, e.g. in the garden or another desk (they are always overcrowded, so I have several of them). I use transparent boxes to store but also carry around tools and things. Converters solve this.

[@handsonkatie]

Brilliant examples and I love the toilet roll example, I might invent a 3d print for that I think! I've just published a new video that might bring some of this to life even more!

[@aribowell]

@@handsonkatie actually, I think it could be a module for Gridfinity, 42x42 is a good size for most cables (e.g. Audio). Some cables are a bit too big and too stiff for one toilet roll (e.g. 240V cables), instead I would use two Gridfinity rectangles for these. Some small cables could also be two per rectangle. I guess such boxes already exist? May be not the necessary height? the boxes do not need to be round

[@aribowell]

@@handsonkatie I have some quite old assortment boxes with a see through cover. Those contain little boxes sized by a base raster, some with a multiple of the raster, but no grid at the bottom. I always wanted more of them, but never found an alternative product. I should probably create my own and use Gridfinity raster for them. Mine have an inner size of 29.2mm x 22.8mm (well 30 x 23.5 outside with cover, it's a practical size, full of screws they are still not too heavy. A box has an inner sie of 7.2mm x 5.6 mm, so most screws fit inside (I use them for screws, mainly for the 3D printer, and for electronic parts)

[@handsonkatie]

​@@aribowellexactly right, I already do this! Watch out in future videos and I'll show them. But it's also a nice idea to use toilet roll, I was thinking I could create a little 3d printed cap and Gridfinity base and then you could just clip them onto toilet rolls to turn them into more rigid containers!

[@handsonkatie]

​@@aribowellthat could be a great use - and if you do the maths, you can work out what Gridfinity pattern fits best for them and have them inter compatible! 😎

[@martyn_b_jones]

Any recommendations for where to get materials from for the walls for your neogrid? Preferably plastic/acrylic/perspex but the likes of B&Q or Wickes seem either too big or too small

[@handsonkatie]

Hey Martyn - I used utility board/soffit board that you can pick up at any builder's merchant (I think even Screwfix/B&Q stock too) - but the file is also parametric, so you can easily adjust the thickness for anything - acrylic would be great for this, so you could just test print a piece to get the perfect thickness (I'd start at about 0.1mm bigger than your material for a nice tight fit!)

[@martyn_b_jones]

@@handsonkatie Thanls Katie. I’ll be out with my tape measure on the weekend having a look. Still looking at the likes of Fusion360 and how to amend the files, that’s still beyond me right now for the time being

[@handsonkatie]

I've got a video draft I'm going to record that will get you 3d modelling in 10 minutes!!! Watch out for that in a few weeks!

[@martyn_b_jones]

@@handsonkatie Cannot wait! I actually worked out changing the parameters of your parametric download. That was pretty snazzy. Will be trying to learn tweaking some other models over the next few weeks so this sounds perfect.

[@KimmoJaskari]

I was kind of thinking there would be some great revelation here, but it's all stuff I knew about, with the exception of the self-created grid solution, that may or may not be relevant, have to see what it can do. But you can't just engineer your way out of the problem, you also need to organize your way out of the problem. Principles like Lean can apply 100% to homes, at least many parts of it. For instance, unnecessary travel; if you have your dishwasher on one end, and store you plates on the other end, you're forever walking back and forth. If your clothing articles are placed sub-optimally, you're also going back and forth. Labeling and marking down exactly where something should be tells you that if it's not there, you've messed up returning it or you ran out and need to re-order, etc. Technological solutions help, but at the end of the day the reason organization fails is because the people stop adhering to maintaining the organization.

[@handsonkatie]

Great comment - yes a lot of this is seemingly common sense (indeed as I highlight, much like the Agile Manifesto was seemingly common sense when it launched) - but the reality is there are no standards in home organisation, so this creates cognitive friction. Definitely lots of other points like travel - I'll cover these in the individual room videos - this is key, especially in workshops. I think I lean much more to the neuroscientific view on why these systems fail - ie people don't just stop adhering to the maintenance, there's a bit more complexity - much like people don't just gain weight because they 'want to'.....! Time and focus are other factors that weigh in too in this!

[@timtuckercom]

The overlooked solution with dishwashers is to have more of them. If you replace cabinet lowers with additional dishwashers you can just use them to store dishes. As a starting point, think about having 2 -- one is your "clean" dishwasher, the other is your "dirty" dishwasher. As you use things, transfer from one to the other. Once you have enough in the "dirty" washer, run a cycle and then swap which one is treated as dirty.

[@deep-dey]

Great videos and awesome take on these concepts. Looking forward to the follow up vids and watching this channel grow. Keep it up 👍🏽

[@handsonkatie]

Much appreciated!

[@jhonattansouza]

nice video ! Looking forward to the next ones :)

[@handsonkatie]

Thanks!

[@BramMertens]

Mostly looking forward for tips organising a desk with all of its cables, power strip and small items like pens, flask drives etc. As well as organising the plethora of spare construction material in all different shapes and sizes. Don't own a 3D printer though. I'm concerned about the VOC's since our house is nearly air tight.

[@handsonkatie]

Super - have some stuff on this in plan after my pc build series. Also might do a short on the VoC point, have some smart sensors for this...! Although they're actually really not a problem since filaments like ABS went out of fashion and filters/enclosures became more common...! Might be worth keeping an eye out for that test!

[@Harko-]

Awesome idea! To be honest, cables are still my nemesis. From small USB cables to my collection of random power cables, they won’t stay in their container and become a tangled mess.

[@handsonkatie]

I've got a few ideas for those - agree cables are an endless battle though!!! 🫣

[@nodoboho]

Mine usually stay organized when looped and slid into a toilet paper tube (or section if the cable doesn't fit well) or else wrapped around the tube, then ends tucked through. The tube could be covered in nice paper or something to standardize or color-code or just make it pretty. Or just write what it's for on the tube with a marker and throw the thing into the "cables" bin/drawer/box with the others.

[@handsonkatie]

This is a great idea - I've designed something very similar, you can get slightly more space efficient than circles if you use honeycomb-style designs - I'll upload these in the near future once I'm happy with the sizings! But love simple solutions when they're available too - I'd actually probably avoid covering/papering them - it does look less polished, but suddenly you move from an endless supply of cable organisers being produced 'automatically' (without getting into your toilet habits!) to a chore that you need to maintain! If you want something nice, then I'd go with a 3d print that you can fire and forget in seconds, if you don't mind it being a bit rough and ready (eg storage in your attic or out of sight), then toilet roll rubes are a brilliant idea. You could also use kitchen roll tubes which are twice the length for any larger usb cables.

[@nodoboho]

@@handsonkatie Well, I'm also pretty frugal and I've seen other possible uses for them, so I've been saving them up; paper towel ("kitchen roll") tubes as well. At this point, I think I've run out of cords and cables to put in them, so I can start using them for supposedly plantable seedlings cups or pitching them into the recycling bin. I'm also big on efficiency and also lazy, so I was just using the ones that were white and smooth (not the gray cardboardy ones) and hand-printing a short label on it with a marker. They are out-of-sight in a bin that fits under a shelving unit.

[@handsonkatie]

​I just hit 'print' on a bunch of usb cable organisers that I just designed based on your thoughts...!! Love the idea of the planters, would degrade nicely and much better than those shop ones that degrade, but constrain the roots at the base. I'm gonna pinch that idea!! ❤❤❤😊

[@pascalfleury972]

I wonder how gridfinity fares with the new multibin added to multiboard. it has a different gird pitch and is not opensource...

[@handsonkatie]

Yes, I can't see any benefit to the new Multipoint myself - restricted licence, less extensive than Gridfinity and much, much more complex. The Gridfinity converters I show in this and other videos do absolutely everything and more!

[@LyleH-13]

fellow engineer here. The original metric system was based on the arbitrary notion that the distance from the equator to the north pole would be 10,000 km. once they decided this distance was the arbitrary base measurement they decided that 1 gram of water, would be the size of 1cm cubed. they then created pieces of platinum to be stored inFrance. if ever there was a question of how long a meter is, check the piece of platinum. yes, nowadays we have redefined metric by using wavelength in vacuum, but it's origin is both arbitrary and fascinatingly scientific at the same time because the gram being related to the size of a cm of water, and the wavelength we chose is still related back to that original piece of platinum.

[@handsonkatie]

Wonderful comment and yes you're spot on! (I had a much longer ramble about this that I actually cut out as I thought likely be not of interest to people), but I do love the fact that the 'fixed ' measurements they chose have proven less than fixed as science advanced! In this sense, metric is really an advance on imperial, rather than an opposite - it's based on much more constant measurements than 'someone's foot'!

[@lisaschmidt8531]

I struggle with fabric storage. As a sewer, I have accumulated a small amount of fabrics, which I have on narrow (30 cm) shelves in an ikea cupboard. I don’t have drawer space for it, so it is just all piled onto the various shelves. Ideally I’d like to have it organized by sort (stretch, cotton, etc.) and I’ve tried to just put it into neat stacks like that. But then you use some of it and have smaller pieces left over from a project, that you mine able to use for something else one day, and so it end in another pile of remnants of various types of fabrics. And all the different interfacings, that I buy for some special project, that I forget about until a year later and then I can’t remember which interfacing is what???? PLEASE HELP!!!!!!😂

[@idalejenblad6735]

Jewelry! I want a good looking organizing multi board-attachment for earrings. How nice would that look in the bathroom?

[@handsonkatie]

Ooh I've got this coming up for my dressing room actually, it's a really neat solution for this!!!

[@andrewmcclaren8780]

Great video - another problem that annoys me is how to incorporate accessible data and audio cabling into a domestic environment. When I did my home extension in 2000, Cat5E was state of the art, but now it’s slow and old hat but it’s inaccessible behind the plaster wall. In an office environment the solution would be cable ducting and false ceilings, but that’s not going to look great at home. I’d prefer not to use wifi, any suggestions?

[@handsonkatie]

You're completely right - I'd install plastic tubing (just use 35mm pipe for waste water or something cheap like that) - but that's obviously BEFORE you plaster the walls! I might have a look at this at some point though - I've seen skirting boards that pop off to let you run cables behind them (a very expensive alternative to a few hours with a router IMO! However it might be fun to build cable mounts that integrate on top of skirting and seamlessly seek to 'disappear'.... I'll have a muse!

[@at3sparky]

I have a challenge for you to organize, one geek woman to another. Where and how do I store all my RPG terrain and miniatures? I do try and magnetize all my bases and then store the minis in scrapbook bins because they fit perfectly in an Ikea cubby. I also have a PS1 and am currently waiting for my next order of filament to start printing multiboard and gridfinity parts.

[@handsonkatie]

Ooooooooh!!!! Now I tell you, I thought about this as I was making some of these 3d models!! I don't really do miniatures myself (although not sure why not as I love board games/gaming in general and love all the intricate details!), but I was thinking about how I could create the 'ultimate miniatures set' at some point - could have organisers for all the paints, brushes and storage drawers for the finished miniatures themselves, think it'd be a great project! Drop me an email on my site and we should brainstorm some ideas - I think a lot of the systems I've covered should work really well for you, but I'm happy to model any 'gaps' that you need solutions for!!! Love the idea though - it's a perfect project! PS I've also got a 'Smart Gaming Table' project on my backlog too, I've been listing all the features I want to include and then I can build it!

[@SalisburyKarateClub]

For me it's my shed. Small size and large tools. I have got a 3d printer and have started to print gridfinity. I'll also check out your website. Cool video

[@handsonkatie]

Ooh, wait a few weeks for my smart garden video! That features shed management so should be lots of files for you to pinch!! 😊

[@on-linesafaritours]

Hey Great video, i love them. However what solutions do you have for a small walk in pantry?

[@handsonkatie]

Ooh I've got a walk in drinks larder on the list and a small pantry, so watch out for them!

[@Vormulac1]

Just discovered your channel so I'm working through the backlog. Fantastic stuff, thoroughly enjoying it! You mention your background in engineering, I'm curious, what is your background - you're properly clued in to tech of all kinds! :) (I'm a former electronic engineer, myself)

[@handsonkatie]

Oh I'll need to cover this at some point in an AMA or something, but electrical engineering, web development, analytics, data and lots more is the short answer!!

[@Vormulac1]

@@handsonkatie A multi-talented lady! I'm loving your videos, genuinely fascinating and very interesting content (and very well made). Thank you for all your effort! :)

[@timhoward1888]

A great video Katie 😃 *raises hand with question* -- what 3D printer are you using that you've printed over a 1000 items in the last few weeks? I have one (i'm embarrassed to say it is a Balco one from Aldi) but it didn't print fast at all and i haven't used it for a few years. It looks llike you might have a Prusa one?

[@handsonkatie]

Well I've got er... five ..... 😂😂 First was a Prusa Mk3s, second was a CR10 Max (huge size but I had to basically rebuild it completely to get it to be reliable) and latest are Bambu P1S - I liked the first one so much, I bought two more....! Highly recommend them or their A1 range, you'll be amazed at speed difference Vs Balco....!

[@timhoward1888]

@@handsonkatie holy moly! you are really into your 3D printing. Yeah, i can see how you would be able to produce that many items now. The Balco is something like 10-70mm/sec compared to 500mm/sec on the P1S?! crikey! no comparison!

[@handsonkatie]

Yes and it's even more of a difference in reality due to all the input shaping and optimisation - highly recommend!

[@bobthekelpie]

@@handsonkatie Katie you've clearly invested a lot of time and effort fine tuning your 3D printing process! I'd love to see a video that describes what you think are must-haves in a 3D printing set up. I'm yet to take the plunge into the 3D printing world but can see that following your channel might just tip the balance and having your thoughts would be of immeasurable value. "Immeasurable." 🤔Is that metric or imperial?

[@handsonkatie]

@@bobthekelpie sounds like a topic for a video in future!

[@AH-xoxo6969]

You clever girl! I like the idea of 42mm grids. I'm humored and educated all at once! You do a fabulous job of sharing your insights and grid solutions. Well done video editing, and creative engineering ideas. What brand of 3D printer are you using? Cheers Katie. You're the best and I love your videos. Rounded, curved surfaces, who knew? Keep up the great videos!

[@handsonkatie]

Thank you, you're lovely!! 🥰🥰🥰 I use Bambu Labs P1S mainly!!

[@Danielo515]

do you screw the panels directly to the table? Or you use the same spacers as for the wall?

[@JAM0LO]

Not sure if i missed it but how exactly is the french cleat interoperable with the other standards? I would love to see some kind of software assistant that can help me remember where things are stored in my home Thanks for the video!!!

[@handsonkatie]

French cleats - watch this space, it'll naturally come into its own in my workshop video where there's masses of 'heavy items'. In short, I've got 3d printed cleats, gridfinity mounts both in wood and PLA and more....! Software assistant - yes I agree, I'm musing something similar - the challenge is universal tracking, eg it's easy to track where your phone is as it's a smart/connected device, you can add a tag to your keys, but your glasses, your shoes etc etc? At some point I was plotting using image recognition to have a play with 'last spotted' events for certain objects - not convinced it'd work well enough for small objects yet, but could be a fun project.... until then, watch my sewing room video coming next week that'll dive into more of this and will at least explain how I structure things to make finding them as easy as possible!!

[@troy1672]

Really like your concept of NEOGRID. I've run into similar issues with Gridfinity. Examples being stuff like calipers, rulers, or spanner wrenches. I want to keep them with the smaller items due to how I am grouping. I've considered just making Gridfinity trays as a catch all but the trays end up needing to be bigger than the printer base. This might be a good compromise verses trying to calculate how to structurally join tray pieces together and still remain strong. Have you considered doing a video on just NEOGRID and different ways you implement it?

[@handsonkatie]

Hey Troy! Thank you, glad you found it helpful! 😊 Yes I have actually, in fact I've already recorded it, so it should be not too much longer - but first I've done another even more common ask, to see my Underware!! 😂 Cable management video coming this week!

[@kirsihamalainen5447]

Thank you for excellent video! Was trying to make neogrid bits but my board is 3 mm thick. The files do not seem to be parametric. Could you make bits for 3 mm boards like you said in the video. Thanks in advance!

[@handsonkatie]

Of course! - there's also an fusion 360 file that others have used to adjust themselves, but happy to pull together. Do you want to drop me an email on my website (www.handsonkatie.com)? I'll send you a test version so you can check it fits neatly - I suspect you'll actually want something like 3.1mm for a tight, but not too tight fit!

[@matthew-lawrence]

Interested to see how this progresses!

[@TheHikerDad]

Hey Katie, I love your videos and you're a natural KZbin presenter. I've been using and designing parts for gidfinity for some time now and love that system. But I have use for a portable solution for my organizational needs. My models are located in the same place as your Neogrid prints and i go by Handy Handcrafts. It would be nice if you had Neogrid models that snapped into to the Multiboard system. I can offer my design skills i you'd like. I may design my own containers as well for Multiboard that meet my specific needs. Keep up the great videos and we'll keep watching!

[@handsonkatie]

Hey thanks HikerDad - I try my best! What's your thoughts on the NeoGrid option - more than happy to model anything required or you're welcome to have the design files too, just struggling to picture what you're describing, but I like a challenge! Do you use discord? We could chat in my server there I've set up so I can share files/pictures easier?

[@TheHikerDad]

​@@handsonkatieI sent you a message on your Let's connect webpage

[@ParasTube]

I’m really enjoying the production and would love to know the behind the scenes equipment, software and hardware you use to produce such great content.

[@LabRatJason]

Money... Money is the thorn in my organizational side. ;)

[@marklamport9140]

Great video, and I want to remove my clutter of parts in the house. Can you recommend a 3D printer, I have no clue.

[@handsonkatie]

I might do a video on this as quite a common question - I'd start with Bambu A1 if you want to start cheap or go to a Bambu P1S if you want to spend a little more....! Both are super reliable and fast!

[@michaelkraft6018]

This looks great for walls and drawers, but what about shelves? Think of those inside cabinets and closets in hard to reach places.

[@handsonkatie]

Check out my recent Kitchen video, might give you some ideas.... ;)

[@shaunjensen1522]

Great timing... I'm working on gridfinity for so many parts or my house, and it works great for the little things, but it gets cumbersome for the big things. Working on my garage now. Any thoughts on what to do with painting supplies? I've got 3 drawers of my Craftsman tool chests devoted to rollers, sleves, paint trays and tubes of caulk. Would love to hear you thoughts,

[@handsonkatie]

Oooh I've got loads of ideas - I've got horizontal and vertical stores for caulk/silicone tubes. Rollers, sleeves, paint trays are larger items, so I'd just build neogrid dividers for these myself. For small hand roller sleeves, you could design a Gridfinity solution - let me know if any urgent ones and can share files or model something specific, otherwise this will be covered in my workshop videos!!

[@shaunjensen1522]

Awesome. I'm only 5-6 drawers into my 30+ drawer solution so I'll prioritize around these for now. Excited to see what you come up with!

[@danielcollin4012]

Thanks for a great video! One challenging area for me is cables. I have *lots* of them. They are sorted in large boxes by type (audio,videos,usb,power,etc) and while it works ok, it's not great. Esp USB has tons of various connectors so when I need to find a specific cable I still need to go over quite a bit in the USB box. Any suggestions and ideas in this area would be great for sure :)

[@handsonkatie]

..not just that, but the silly USB standard is poorly demarcated - does that USB cable work with data or is it just a power cable for example?? I have just the solution for both, keep an eye out for upcoming videos for this. I might even do a dedicated video on cables - it seems a very common challenge!!

[@danielcollin4012]

@@handsonkatie Agreed. Also, while it's a good idea to have set of spare cables for various cases, it likely would be an idea to cull away some older cables that has some duplicates and never will be used again.

[@handsonkatie]

Agree, although it's one of the mysterious laws of physics that the moment you do that, you'll suddenly have a need for more and be one short..... 🤣

[@danielcollin4012]

@@handsonkatie Yes! There is a reason I still have sooo many cables :D also a big box of random PSUs because they make come in handy "on day"

[@ForeGeorgeman]

It looks like this address organization, but not the containers themselves. I'm desperate to find a standard large storage container and a standard shelf. Seems like "dunnage racks" are the most universal for shelving. And I haven't found something to my liking for containers.

[@handsonkatie]

Yes you're right - there's a great comment above that suggests creating 'molds' using 3d prints - I might try this. It's too time and money prohibitive to print larger boxes on current FDM. I'm also designing open source container systems - think cabinets, drawers and the like with automatic gridfinity grids, slot grooves and more. I could add a box system too potentially that might tackle some of your challenge - it's amazing that there's just no standard sizes in these things, then it'd be easy to find a solution!

[@alejandrotaudil3689]

What filament are u using for multiboard? Thanks in advance!

[@handsonkatie]

Just ordinary PLA - more than strong enough for this. Think this was elegoo from memory!

[@legoruthead]

Where are the models/specs for Neogrid? The link is just to your website home page, and I couldn't find it in a few minutes of clicking around

[@handsonkatie]

Hey everything's on this page: handsonkatie.com/neogrid-organise-your-big-items-with-this-free-and-open-source-system/ Will update the link in case anyone else struggles to find it!

[@legoruthead]

@@handsonkatie Ah, under projects, not downloads. Thanks for pointing it out!

[@dannysung3397]

I love this approach! My main issue is that if I don’t see things, I won’t remember I even have them! So I have lots of transparent containers that I label. They also have lids to keep dust/pests out. Is it possible to do the same with 3D printing?

[@handsonkatie]

Yes, great point - fdm printers can print transparent filament, but they'll be more opaque than glass-like. Few ways I'd approach this, I use window boxes like this: images.app.goo.gl/JWTqZ3M9LTSoGa6c8 and as in the video to allow this. The other option would be to just use your transparent boxes and create Gridfinity bases for them so you get the best of both worlds! Might include this in one of the room videos!

[@Gamen4Bros]

love this vid lol

[@leona_devon]

A great video love this, I'm always looking for ways to organise my home, I came here from the home automation video you did which was great too, my only gripe for 3D printers, as my dad has one, is there so slow, it would take me months of constant printing to build these solutions, we need faster printers, or maybe you can recommend some?

[@handsonkatie]

Hey, thanks Leona! 😊Do you know which printer your dad has? They've certainly leapt forward in speed in the last couple of years - ie it's quite likely they're 4-5x faster out of the box, then there's also lots of tricks to speed things up further - eg layer height, larger nozzle etc. but they'll continue to get faster without a doubt...!

[@leona_devon]

He has an anycubic Kobra 2, embarrassed that he got a 3D printer before I did, and I'm the one in IT;) 🤣

[@RonDavidowicz]

I didn’t get a 3-d printer…..when are you coming over?

[@handsonkatie]

When you least expect...... 🗜️🗜️🗜️🗜️🗜️

[@joes_drone]

Hi Katie. another great video... i've had a 3D printer for years but its packed away at the moment due to moving. once I have it set back up, i'll deffo be printing some of these storage solutions for my new Man-cave! Keep up the good work. oh and if we were not both married.. i'd ask you out for a drink ;-) x

[@handsonkatie]

Awesome - hope they help with the mancaving!!! 🤣🤣

[@jonparker2353]

You didn’t really go into how you integrate the French cleat system into the other storage methods. Are you 3D printing cleats or going the traditional route with wood? The way you ended the video, it seems like you have 3 options that are more or less integrated plus one solo one for heavy vertical storage. (Which seems pretty accurate, but I’d like to see more of your idea’s for integration, like multiboard based french cleat modules… or whatever you have in mind.) Good video - I enjoyed it and am looking forward to learn more about neogrid in particular

[@handsonkatie]

Hey Jon - yes, I've got a whole series coming up which dives into more detail as I tour each room - I thought this would bring it to life more easily! Given there's about 300+ custom models I've built for all the various solutions! To answer your question, I'm doing both - it's really handy to have 3d printed cleat holders for some things (saves buzzing out pieces on the table saw) and then I've cut plywood cleats for lots of other stuff. It's the combination of the two that becomes really powerful - you'll see this in the workshop tour and I've got laser cut and CNC cut patterns for gridfinity, so you can have french cleat shelves with wooden gridfinity bases for example! Oh and I'll do a dedicated neogrid video too in a bit to walk you through that also!

[@jonparker2353]

@@handsonkatie I feel like my OCD-like uber-organizing brainworm may keel over in excitement. I know I'm showing my age, but I struggle with most instructional or walk through video's - I just want to read how to do the thing, then get to work on the thing immediately, even though I know there are skills and techniques that really only translate in person or by video. I'm glad I stuck it out and watched this one though & I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

[@handsonkatie]

@@jonparker2353 good to hear and keep watching, loads more to come on this..... 😎

[@gedgicat2063]

Great video and intesting concept, Yet I fail to see how it will ensure the wife puts the kitchen ware back in the correct places. If it can do that i'll stop borrowing my mates 3D printer and get my own.😂 Looking forwards to where this voyage of discovery takes us and hoping I can find the chopsticks or measuring bowl without checking every draw or cupboard soon.

[@handsonkatie]

Ah, the cognitive challenge.... that's actually something I'll cover in future videos - whether I can fix your other half is another question (she may just do it deliberately to annoy you.... 😅😅😅 ) - but I'll have a go!!

[@gedgicat2063]

​@@handsonkatie if you're willing to try then I will give it a go.😂🤣🤣🥳

[@carlschulz1057]

I think you summarized the problem and solution approach well. I have been building both multiboard and gridfinity solutions independently for a while. I do not think they integrate well and will be interested in your solutions. I am intrigued by neo and followed you down the rabbit hole ... hope you can provide a "utility board" compatible product available in the US else it will be difficult to include that component into the system. 😢😢😢 ( the US is never going to go metric in my lifetime )

[@handsonkatie]

Thanks Carl - yes, the various converters between Gridfinity and Multiboard have been essential I'd say - I'll tour these in detail in upcoming videos. As for Neogrid, well the design is parametric, so very easy to fit any width of material, so if you can find some consistent similar material in the US and state the width, I can easily generate all the files to fit. I've used 6mm MDF for example in testing it and it works great!

[@carlschulz1057]

I look forward to more instructional videos on integrating these organizational systems. I am teaching myself F360 and will try to find an appropriate material to test neo. I have been building boxes out of 3mm cardboard using a similar set of connectors.

[@carlschulz1057]

@@handsonkatie Update: I recently found an update on Printables by user Alexander Songe who generated 1/8" models. These will work perfectly with laser cut baltic birch dividers and with 3mm cardboard from all of my Amazon boxes. Thanks for your continued updates and work. I am waiting to see your shop organization video. I also downloaded the F360 files and am playing with those.

[@neoplumes]

Im married to a professional organizer. You'd probably get a lot of traction with that group... If you didn't start by insulting them 😉. The system itself is fantastic.

[@handsonkatie]

🤣🤣 Oops ... I'm going to get taken out by the Organizati!!! Engineers Vs Organizers - the nerdiest fight in history!

[@JonathonBarton]

5:31 - the most hilarious part of this moment is that Marie Kondo ...uh... had kids. And with the third one? In 2023 - 'Kondo says that, for many, the perfectly organized space is not realistic. “Up until now, I was a professional tidier, so I did my best to keep my home tidy at all times,” she said at the event. “I have kind of given up on that in a good way for me. Now I realize what is important to me is enjoying spending time with my children at home.” *Her family got her before we nerds did!* 😹

[@handsonkatie]

You're right, never trust a home organisation expert without children, they've basically never been properly tested..... 🤣🤣🤣🤭

[@JonathonBarton]

@@handsonkatie STRESS TESTING TO DESTRUCTION. 😹

[@fly-fpv]

This is soooo good!!!

[@ItIsNot1984]

I got a 3d printer. Everything I do ends up a mess. I've never been capable of organizing anything, and I expect that if I put something in some random place in my house it better still be there when I come back to it a few months later. That isn't working out because I have a family that likes to do things such as clean and just ya know live in the same space as me. Tell me how to organize my stuff, lady!

[@handsonkatie]

😅😅😅😅😅😅 Let's face this battle together!

[@meme-d2h1g]

What about the fact that PLA turns brittle over time? Every pegboard accessory I ever printed in PLA broke after a year or two, it became worthless. PETG holds up, but obviously is a different material with unique challenges.

[@handsonkatie]

Think this is possibly more your filament brand than the material? I use Elegoo and Bambu mainly, but I've had PLA outdoors in freezing weather/full sun and loads under load on shelves for 5-6 years that all looks as good as new, so I can't say I've experienced it. If you've got a modern printer (eg Bambu) then printing PETG is pretty much just as easy, so you could use that if you want!

[@iamhandy-man]

As I looked at the clutter surrounding the laptop upon which I watched your video, I felt pretty convicted. 😬Although, I am a generalist, I'd be particularly keen on some deep dives into how you put your system into practice. How did you create your taxonomy and ontology? What were the driving factors? This is guidance I could use. Although creating such data constructs is my everyday work life, I seem to struggle with tangibles, which seem to pile up. I freeze-framed parts of your video to read your labels for ideas. May I offer some unsolicited opinions on your videos for your consideration? OK, you're still reading, so I'll take that as a yes. Although you are actually quite dynamic in your presentation (top notch), as a consumer of such content, I tend to find less "talking head" to be better. Your voice track is excellent, but I'd enjoy seeing more visual variety as you narrate. It could be as simple as a few wide shots as you work in your shop, or we see 3D printers at work. Bob from "I Like to Make Stuff" has heavy narrative on his projects, but there are many different things to watch while we're listening. Since you have posted videos on a variety of topics, I wonder if it might help to create some clever (or cheeky) theme titles to help distinguish videos of one topic from another? I've learned that many KZbinrs will dedicate a channel to a particular topic (e.g. crafting, marketing, etc.) supporting the thought that consumers visit a particular channel for a specific topic. I find your content quite interesting and wonder what you're going to cover next, but maybe others have different expectations and think you will have a focus. Topic titles might provide a nice way to segregate your content. Please continue to let your sense of humor shine through. It's fun! I'm really enjoying your work, Katie, so hope you take the comments in the spirit they were intended.

[@handsonkatie]

Amazing comment - thank you so much for this - helpful at some many levels! Taxonomy/ontology - oh great question and could be an hour video on its own (although you and me might be the only ones interested!!). At its basis I've actually avoided being too ontological - I think this was a mistake in the past. Much like the web spent too much time in Information Architecture design, before shifting onto tag-based constructs, facets search etc. In very short terms, don't try and define things too much, but focus on letting its ontology adapt if you need to - this is a key part I covered - so if those pliers are now better suited to the workshop, then great I just pick up their container and I know it'll fit in the relevant spot. One driving point is around work optimisation - ie measuring the time it takes you to do a task and seeking to minimise that in your design (are those scissors in reach for cutting the thread, where's my needles and so on). I hope I'll cover this in future videos, so hopefully that will help answer the question in more clarity. On videos - thank you very much for your kind comments and great ideas - oh there's loads I'd like to do more of. I agree with the extra shots, it's actually loads of work - not least as I'm totally incompetent still having only started video editing/filming for the first time a few months ago. To give you a measure of my ineptness, I actually had to re-film the whole thing as I'd forgotten to plug in the microphone correctly..... idiot! I definitely want to do more visual variety as you say - it's a bit of an odd habit to develop as I've always just ploughed on with projects, so I'm trying to build the habit of filming as I go (I keep forgetting, but I'll try harder!!). Topic titles/categorisation is definitely something I want to do going forward - although it does require me to know what the heck I'm doing in the first place.... 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks again for taking the time to comment, I love comments like this - they're so helpful!

[@iamhandy-man]

@@handsonkatie Uh, oh, it sounds as if we both work in the same industry for our day jobs. 😅You're right that it might be a pretty limited audience who would want to do a deep dive on ontological discussions. Well, we'd have fun geeking out, at least. I should take a step back and look at some of my repetitive tasks and kaizen [cough, cough] them. But, I am chaos at heart. Organizational nirvana may always remain out of reach for me, but you've piqued my interest. Maybe I can start printing some items, but, oh my word, it will take forever to do it! How entrepreneurial do you feel? Time to get mass production of some of your designs so lazy people can simply purchase them? Hmmmm?????? Your video production skills are actually quite excellent. It's surprising how short a time you've been doing this work, because your lighting, alone, is fantastic, and that's not an easy thing to get right. All of the graphical components have been high-quality and have a consistent aesthetic. These are things that generally take a long time to develop. (My skills are certainly still under development.) Pat yourself on your back, you have done exceptionally well. The content portion is the most difficult thing to nail. How do you pace it, how do you break it up, how do you determine the right length, how do you summarize to make sure the right points have been conveyed? It's just like presentations for our day jobs. I think you're doing really well with your content and am just being picky about wanting greater visual variety. I've been learning this the hard way, myself. To make you feel better: Although I am a very technical person at heart, I am just as prone to ineptitude as the next person. I was making a video on installing recessed lights and shot this bit of me in our upstairs hallway with a laser level painting a line down the center of the ceiling, as I extolled the virtues of the level. Thought it went OK, packed the camera up and cut a ton of holes in the ceiling. Two months later I looked at the footage. No audio. I asked my wife if she could read my lips (I'm rubbish at that) to see if I could maybe lip synch myself there, because I certainly couldn't reshoot it, since the lights are already installed. Argh! I still don't know what I'm going to do. So, know that you have a brother in arms. As for getting extra footage, boy do I understand. I thought I would do a video on our extensive kitchen remodel, but bringing out the camera made everything take twice as long and there was SO much to do. I finally decided to keep the camera in the other room and just get the work done. I might regret that. That's why I was thinking if you simply put a camera on a tripod and let it run unattended, it might provide you with the cutaways you need, but without too much extra fuss. > although it does require me to know what the heck I'm doing in the first place You're not fooling this guy with such statements! Thanks for being open to receiving comments. I wish you great success!

[@aerobiotic]

I'm still looking forward to getting a 3D printer 😀

[@chrislambe400]

Are you being cheeky with your logo? Now I am going to have to make my own grids for my kids' garden house and Barbie houses too.

[@arjunyt2607]

Has the revolution been postponed? Eagerly awaiting the next video!

[@handsonkatie]

🤣🤣 oh no, it's just keeping up with all my projects that's the challenge!! It's coming soon! (Been ill for a couple of weeks too as an excuse! 🤒🤒🤒)

[@TezManGaming]

The thing that gets my goat is dishes... All the different sizes, shapes, and styles, they don't neatly stack, most of them, and they slip around, don't stay in one place, etc.

[@handsonkatie]

Ah, I just went strict on that and bought a set of square, stackable plates, bowls and so on! Bought them years ago and still going strong!

[@p.2617]

@handsonkatie2440 have you seen the Multiboard / Multigrid system?

[@handsonkatie]

Yes, I touched on that lightly in the video - Gridfinity has such an enormous ecosystem that multigrid is a bit like betamax Vs VHS - definitely has advantages, but loses out on sheer ecosystem size...!

[@ScottGilmore]

What made you decide on Multiboard over Honeycomb Storage Wall?

[@handsonkatie]

Hey Scott - main factors were really smart multi format (ie it works with Multiboard, honeycomb, pegboard and more) and strength - very strong format, holds 20kg+ so gives lots more flexibility (and tied to this, the ability to screw in fixtures makes it much stronger than push fit designs)

[@mnemonicn]

What usually ends up being a mess you ask? usually the women I date. Can you solve that? where do I find a smart one like you? Just discovered your channel and you are really creative and given me so many ideas. Thumbs up on your videos, unfortunaly youtube only let me give you one thumb up not more.

[@handsonkatie]

Thank you!! Glad you found the video useful and you made me smile!! 😁😁

[@CamiloSperberg]

Mm no 3d printer yet but you've made a strong case here! As for messy rooms, my working space and in a lesser way my home office are always a mess. My own brain as well but you did not cover that in your video! :P

[@handsonkatie]

Hehehe! I'll keep working on you then! Excellent point though on the brain, that's actually something I'm going to cover in an upcoming video or two - it's something that's really interesting to me!!

[@simoncope2437]

I wouldn’t know what 3D Printer to buy. I am of the impression that they are very slow, so I don’t know how you managed to print so much in the past few weeks.

[@handsonkatie]

Well they've certainly got an awful lot faster in recent years, but there's a subtlety to how they operate that I probably need to cover - ie they can work away non-stop and don't need any attention, so they can be running away through the day and night - I'll try and cover this in a future video!

[@MitchellGreen]

Many Rolls of tape is my nemesis ! Different widths and Diameters (which of course as change as I use them!! They always end up in a drawer which is a disaster zone!! HELP!!!!!

[@handsonkatie]

Ooh, have a solution already for this!! Will feature in upcoming videos!

[@scottperry8388]

You're amazing and OMG, Hands on Katie? Yes please. What a stunner! ;-)

[@handsonkatie]

😂😂 Silly billy!! 🥰

[@sidlerm1]

Lol you made me laugh so much, onto of providing awesome advices. I will buy a 3D printer 😅

[@handsonkatie]

🤣🤣 glad you enjoyed and go get that printer...!

[@guitargrin]

I don't want to be ashamed of my garage any longer! 😅

[@handsonkatie]

My name is GuitarGrin and I've a messy garage.... admitting it is the first step... 😅😅😅