Opening the Irish Class 201 by Murphy Models

[@thejohnler8358]

21:26 You are right. The original tool was sold by Lima and up to the retool sold in excess of £300 pounds EACH!!!!!

[@irishrail2018]

The detail on the loco is spot on if u get it weathered it will be as real as it gets,I have the murphy models 071 class, 141 class and many coaches,I also have videos of the 201 in real life

[@jayburgh]

Those buffers would annoy the pi** out of me too lol.

[@befrank88]

Beautiful model, it is quiet as well as detailed. I agree that the bogies and the grey should be painted....... Another quality review!!!

[@SeaToby11]

befrank88 I don't like the plastic grey appearance either, but the bogies of this loco in this livery were grey, not black. Maybe a good weathering of a darker shade of grey on the bogies to get rid of the grayish plastic mold appearance.

[@S_pex33]

There are clas 201s everywhere, but the class 22000 is taking over, the class 201 is still used for shunting and freight runs. We also have the new MK IV that does runs from Dublin to Cork and the belmond has arrived aswell.

[@Whizzy-jx3qe]

The fires on the Class 201s was caused by HEP and affected the 201s on the Belfast Dublin Enterprise Service. The Enterprise Sets now use mk3 EGVS thus elminating the problem of HEP on the locomotives.

[@irishrailwayvideos9747]

230 was the loco that caught fire and GM even warned IÉ not to use HEP at the time of delivery

[@muhammedibrahimsarfraz8770]

@@irishrailwayvideos9747 true. and because of the heavy damage, it might not return to service

[@Trainmaster909]

I love the international locomotives ur reviewing... Lots of fun watching them... Every once an a while it's fun

[@nigelweir3852]

Weight limitations on bridges and lines prevent double header

[@stevedaly1440]

Great review. Thanks for taking the time to have a look at one of our locos in Ireland. You certainly did your research on it. I expect Murphy Models will see a few more of them on the back of this review.

[@theaccountofmine.8779]

I think they can double head but not with two 201s.Back in October (2019) the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland did a tour where a 201 (no.232) doubleheaded with an 071 (no.078) from Dublin to Cork.Then they split and one went to Cobh.The tour was called the ‘Cobh rambler’ if you’re interested.

[@scottmairs9014]

See this pass me in the Translink Enterprise livery. You can feel the ground shake - genuinely - as she passes. Just wish there was a class 3000 for Hornby.

[@MrJuliancarroll]

Multiple operation is not permitted because of their weight. These locos were to replace the 071 class (still operational) which had a similar restriction.

[@NirateGoel]

Which they failed at given half the 201's are rotting outside Inchicore. They just displaced them to freight, rather than replaced.

[@keithhannon5431]

I live in Ireland and I can hear the class 22000 and class 201 about 3-10 times a day

[@qwertyTRiG]

Where I live, in Tullamore, it's entirely DMUs, but there's some locohaul on the Dublin-Cork line and the Dublin-Belfast Enterprise.

[@OdhranMurray]

TRiG (Ireland) Belfast here mate always trainspotting for the enterprise!!

[@taytos93]

Brilliant review! If you ever do visit Ireland, make sure you get on the enterprise train up to us in Belfast, it's the only regular 201 service still running, and since they just renovated the stock should still be for a while yet And if you do make it up to Belfast, you can get a train from the city to the Ulster folk and transport museum, which has an amazing locomotive hall, its about 15 mins away via NI railways (NI's 'british rail' the last remaining public owned railway) on a lovely line running beside the lough :)

[@ColoradoRailroadProductions]

Hi Will, those beams in the bag are pilots (as we call them in America) they attach to the front and back of the loco between the buffers. They are also where the M.U. hoses plug into.

[@intercityirelandcie3875]

Great video but the loco is spot on. When it is over hauled it looks exactly the same and the sprung buffers aren't usually like that

[@shannonflyer757]

I'm Irish and this train still operates on the Dublin - Cork route. They call it the Iarnród Éireann (Irish Rail) mk4 train.

[@Loosetile2]

Inspired by IC82's enthusiasm when unboxing this legend of a locomotive(nice model too!), I decided to drop a bit of history for you guys. I typed this so I hope it's not too hard to read, any corrections welcome. Enjoy! The 201 class, numbered 201 (the first one built), was the loco flown in from Canada which at the time was an unprecedented move. Also at the time it set the record for the largest payload at 109 tonnes!!! Now, make no mistake, this was a magnificent achievement but a bitter sweet one. The condition of the Irish railway system at the time meant the urgency of this delivery was absolute. Drivers and crew needed to be trained and ready from the word go as the shipments arrived in so that more than justified flying the first train in to get ahead of the game. As for the longevity and reliability of the loco's, well General Motors just never seem to fail. The reliability knows no bounds and even the older 071 class is still going today(A remarkable achievement). Both classes of loco's went through some very tough times on the Irish railway network with the peak of the decline being in 1997 when a full train derailment occurred in Co. Roscommon as a direct result of poorly maintained track(Search "irish rail derailment news 1997" on KZbin for more info). Then over the course of the next decade a revival of the network occurred. Behind the scenes upgrades and repairs were being carried out. Not obvious to the common commuter but still important such as electronic signalling, automated level crossings etc. In 2007 saw the delivery of the class 22000 from Hyundai Rotem in South Korea. These trains are widely respected across the world for their reliability and they use an interesting hydro-mechanical transmission system. They have a top speed of 200km/hr, however, the fastest line in Ireland is at 160km/hr hence that's the fastest you'll find them travelling on Irish soil for the foreseeable future. Even that speed is a rare sight as the only line in Ireland that does the full 160km/hr is the Dublin-Cork line. Here is where it get's interesting. This line is the only double track route the entire way from beginning to end in the Republic of Ireland (Dublin-Belfast is double track but technically that's international). It is the flagship route of the company and this route is the last to host loco hauled passenger trains, which consists of the flagship coaches of the company, the MK4's hauled by THE CLASS 201 LOCOMOTIVES. The future of this particular configuration is secure for the next decade I'd say but as every other passenger route in Ireland is serviced by either the DART electrified rail system or DMU's it's only a matter of time before the locomotive meets it's retirement from passenger duties. The older 071 class is still used once or twice a year in a passenger configuration. This is for special rail tours run by primarily the RPSI or IRRS. Both the 071 class and 201 class see VERY regular and scheduled freight duties and have, even for the oldest 071 class, no signs of stopping. The age of both these loco's and the operational decline they pulled through is a remarkable sign to how well built they are and even those owned by the preservation societies throughout the isle sometimes see revenue mainline use due to their efficiency.

[@NirateGoel]

Don't forget the line of 201's outside inchicore not fitted for push-pull rotting away.

[@thegreypenguin5097]

Australia uses 5' 3' actually in some parts of the country due to an Irish Man that came to Australia. They still mostly use 4' 8.5".

[@CardboardSliver]

I'm actually building a mixed national railroad layout. Got some US steam and diesel, a couple UK ones, and now I need this beauty.

[@mayomann51]

The 201's pulled cravens mark 2D's mark3's and freight as well

[@JBtrainman]

I like the loco, it looks like a mix as it has the sloped ends of the class 67 and Co-Co arrangement and the body of the class 66.

[@CentralWestRail]

Reminds me a little of a Australian RL, if it was a little shorter and the cab was angled back a little more, I should buy one of these now. In terms of gauges in Australia, we use 3. Standard gauge of 4ft 8 1/2 inches is most common now, with the trans-continental link, all NSW railways, a line into Queensland & Victoria being built to Standard. Victoria and parts of South Australia used Broad Gauge of 5ft 3 inches. South Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory, Queensland and Tasmania uses Narrow Gauge of 3ft 6 inches. The Australian Capital Territory comes under the NSW Railways and uses standard.

[@belfastbusfan]

The 201s aren’t permitted to double head (operate in multiple) due to the sheer weight of the locos being too much to be safe.

[@davidhill1331]

We have board gauge here in Australia 5ft 31/2 inch in the states of Victoria and South Australia - a lot of early railway engineers were irish

[@coolaboola1046]

The Dublin/Cork line still uses them to this day (Dec 2017)

[@essscharlie5460]

They still do now (18th of September 2021)

[@mckinneyc1000]

I've 208 River Lagan in NIR Blue. I see them on the Enterprise service every day on the way to work as I pass York Rd depot in Belfast. Great locomotives and a great model

[@JordysRailVideos]

In Australia we have Broad Guage (mostly used in Melbourne), Standard in the other states except Tasmania and Queensland which have narrow guage and we can have dual gauge eg: broad and standard on some freight lines in Melbourne plus there's a couple of SG lines in Melbourne for the South Australia and New South Wales

[@atreusspyrre9137]

How to build an Irish based layout: 1. build a loop. 2. put model farmland all around it. 3. soak it in water. (only Irish people will get it)

[@DanTheCaptain]

Is it because the Irish climate is very moist and rainy?

[@atreusspyrre9137]

Yah

[@zahmey6208]

Eren Angeles same for Queensland in Australia but instead of soaking it. You light it on fire

[@KPTHR3]

Been to Ireland and that sounds accurate.

[@ilonamichniak6379]

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[@cgcdoestrains9166]

thanks for doing a review on an irish loco

[@TrainTrackTrav]

Looks like a cross between a 59 and a 67.

[@craigowen1853]

yes

[@365n4]

Excellent review on an excellent model! The loose buffers aren't normal they should be in the fixed horizontal position (damaged in transit?) and these grey plates in your details bag go into the opening underneath the "buffer beam" to fill the empty space left by the removed couplers. And the grey bogies are only on the InterCity liveries all the other versions have black bogies and black under frame details. But the best thing about this loco it has a speaker fitted right from the factory so you just need to plug in the DCC Sound Decoder and of you go, no further wiring required. And indeed the "Screw driver thing" is for opening the roof panel to access the decoder socket.

[@mightymackrel5548]

the buffers on mine are loose too.

[@SeaToby11]

Kent 222 I would rather have the sprung buffers glued correctly on the loco. So much for the reality of sprung buffers. They add no value to the loco on the tracks of any layout. Frankly, I would rather see the manufacturers spend a bit more for Kadee couplers than spend my hard earned money for sprung buffers. At least Kadee style buffers add value to a loco on my layout, where I never have to use the hand of God to uncouple wagons and coaches and locos.

[@mightymackrel5548]

SeaToby11 I agree, the only downside with the Kadee couplers is the fact that if you have a lot of locomotives and rolling stock then it will cost loads.

[@pilotminuteman8833]

Thanks for going all out Irish i appreciate it and also i had some issues with class 90 so it will be delayed but it will come with a little surprise when you get it, anyway sorry again and I'll send it in as soon as I get it fixed

[@Nthusiast125]

There days are certainly not numbered as the Enterprise which runs from Belfast Central(NI) to Dublin Connolly(IRL) is currently going under major refurbishment and will be coming in the Autumn 2015

[@XPTV233]

brilliant video Will. I have been to Ireland to Dublin and Waterford, and I did see a class 201 sadly didn't get the number but the livery is very accurate and the coaches in irl are very smart.

[@theavocetpannier84]

To Will, the Intercity computers look really nice and the long distance ones thanks for getting me into model trains again. Please can you do another sierise when you repair a loco please the jinty because I just got a new jinty and its really broken your the best from Duke

[@goawayleavemealone2880]

The Belfast - Dublin Train runs these locos, it's just had a £15,000,000 refurbishment. But it doesn't look like it's being upgraded anytime soon..

[@keithhannon5431]

Not allowed to couple up in multipul units because they have way too much power on them

[@troyherring1634]

omg! I just realised how middle class will is!! love the videos non the less!

[@mightymackrel5548]

If you could do a series on improving her then that would be brilliant! The colours are actually pretty accurate, and there is a speaker beneath the grille on the roof of the model for when you run her with dcc sound. I have the exact same loco but I weathered her. ps. to say welcome in Irish you would say fáilte (faw ill teh) Thanks for reviewing an Irish loco!

[@interestedErvini]

The class 66 is basically the younger brother of the 201.

[@layout1237]

great review intercity82 have never been interested in Irish locos but have changed now

[@davehowe4714]

very nice indeed, I do like the model. I wonder what it would look like repainted into a BR subsector such as coal?

[@peterattfield]

you mentioned about the carriages for this model intercity and there are available. I have seen in the orange and black livery them for sale in the region of £40.00

[@mightymackrel5548]

Peter Attfield the locos in 222s livery don't run with the orange and black coaches mate 😀

[@Trainmaster909]

If your looking for a good international locomotive that is so much fun to run you may not care if its not prototypical with your railroad... Try a German and American loco from MTH electric trains... Now they are incredibly expensive (around £300 for a steamer or £170 for a diesel or electric). But all diesels and steam engines are equipped with remote controlled couplers, Synchronized Fan-driven smoke, DCC Sound, and some other cool features. I bought a few over the last few years... Brass parts have never broken off them, still work on DCC systems, and I cannot stop running them... Try one out... If you can stretch the cost for one... It's well worth it! If you want I can give you a link to a website to find one for you

[@ylwpyro9549]

This was certainly different. The loco looks great, even if it was slightly damaged.

[@EnterprisingRailFilms]

The under details can be removed.... The livery is spot on & as the under detail (when overhauled!)

[@rosstaylormedia770]

Ireland doesn't really use freight trains anymore but I'm sure you could find one in a shed somewhere

[@markway6225]

Unless you didn't know Ryanair used to be a small airline based out of Waterford. Somewhere this train would travel to and from everyday to Dublin. I'm not sure what to relevance of that was lol!

[@colmsmyth3234]

I'm from waterford boi

[@jaytraynor2414]

I'm Waterford up the déise

[@videogaming1822]

+Colm Smyth galway a small village called letterfrack

[@joelharris1335]

So the 201 class locomotives had spanners thrown into the work!!

[@sohailanjum1439]

It's beautiful

[@barrynaessens7958]

You can get Murphy Models which are weathered.

[@guidotamburrini2735]

II have had a close look at one of Padraig Murphy,s models when I met him on a rail trip in Norway 15 months ago . They look good with plenty of weight as well , as for the man himself you would never tire listening to him , he could make adull weatherforecast interesting ,very interesting guy and bags of enthusiasm about his models. A lot of the Norwegian guys on the trip liked what he was producing

[@kierongeisel1999]

trains

[@intercityirelandcie3875]

There is about 14 to 18 still in working order although thankfully nun have been scrapped also will I can see what you men about it being to clean but when it is cleaned it looks exactly like the model

[@zahmey6208]

The gauge is bigger than us in Queensland we have 3 foot 6 inches And in the north we have cane railways which I think is a foot

[@danielbee55]

hi ice age 82 (intercity82) my name is daniel and I am a massive fan of your channel espescally your hauls from model railway shops. I am making a visit to s n j models were I am going to buy some bargains and improve my layout. my layout is small but I have a virgin pendolino and a super voyager in addition to that the toy story 3 playset and a class 395 blue rapier. thank you inter city 82 for doing you tube and please can you read this on mailbox monday thank you.

[@eoinkenny8603]

I have this 201 in the orange colours, I don't see these anymore on the network.The current locomotives on the Irish network do not look as good as these.

[@limamikeaviationstreams8994]

Australia and GB rail gage same. We ran the flying Scotsman

[@inkyscrolls5193]

In fact Australia and the UK share *two* gauges: 4'8·5" in England, Wales and Scotland, and 5'3" in Northern Ireland. We don't have any 3'6" gauge trains on our national network, sadly, though there are 3' lines on the quasi-independent Isle of Mann.

[@Damocles178]

Great review; if I'd a layout I'd so buy one of them. Bet that thing would be undeniably beautiful with DCC. Could have lights on at will whilst idle etc Interestingly the other 201's in the range have black undercarriage detailing. That Intercity livery is the sole exception; not sure why they went for grey but ah well nothing good weathering can't fix. What's also quite nice about this 201 is only certain liveries have the side plate for the logo which is a nice touch; look up some pictures of the real loco under it's various guises and you'll see what I mean. The NIR Blue and IE Orange 201's don't just like the real thing as it was painted over the grills instead.

[@anthonylewin97]

seen a 201 before when i went

[@TheBeardedBadger]

Hopefully there is a class 071 appearing soon as I sent one in last week ;)

[@Xantec]

Makes me think of the Intercity BR would have used if they had still remaind BR green

[@eoghangrenham6058]

The 201s can work as multiple Unites

[@SkippersOfSWE]

Excellent video, really interesting. Just me or the train looks like a mashup of the class 67 and P42DC?

[@barry8776]

As these are Run for the cross border Enterprise Service, it is both an Irish loco and British Loco as it's Northern Ireland. Facts people facts 😁😁

[@frcdanoob9537]

The information on the Class 201 is incorrect about their max speed. They can actually reach a top speed of 102 mph and not 100, though the 201s only operate at 100 mph anyway, I take it that they were making a rough estimation. I got one of these locos today and it said the same as yours, but the only difference is that mine is in enterprise green and gold liver no. 8208. But besides that, I love it, I cannot wait to finish my layout and see it run in style!

[@sgkingly8392]

I love aviation and trains as well.

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

I actually like the look of these Murphy models locos. The newer models seem to have darker chassis and bogie plastic rather than the cheapo grey used in this review (admitedly a good 2 years ago) and look more realistic..

[@logankibby1897]

that lrish loco is by EMD

[@ob1athome912]

The bogey wouldn’t catch the coupling as the coupling moves away from the bogey!!! It also has rear facing tail lights

[@lordoftnt102]

it pulls a train at Christmas called the Santa special its a buetiful loco

[@Tappedouter2002]

Yes you can get coaches search on Google "enterprise train coaches" and you'll find them but I would wait a while cause NIR are overhauling there enterprise service so they're repainting them and doing up the interior and when your painting the bottom plastics you should also repaint the loco as well to look like the new livery

[@Tappedouter2002]

I also just finished building that train with all nine coaches in minecraft yes the train that does the Belfast to Dublin route has nine coaches one of the motored ends one end just for driving which also has first class and one more first class and seven normal class

[@KPTHR3]

Ireland is quite a nice place you should visit.

[@VRDenshaOtaku]

Intercity82 the Australian gauge are 4ft 1/2 In 5ft 3in and 3ft 6in

[@peterforden5917]

it looks great but what about rolling stock, perhaps you could do a vid on that? not much use just a loco :/

[@johnnycostello6730]

Our 071 class has much more detail you should check it out

[@MsAbigail1986]

Is it a bit like the Bachmann models just in a different brand

[@connorkelly1933]

it does looks so real and im from ireland and live in it

[@loeb1]

will...it has got tail light i see it, at 19:35

[@oologahnorthernrailroad8873]

Also Lionel does that with some steamers and scale freight cars

[@belfastbusfan]

to say failte in without getting confused say it like this falt-cha

[@beavonryan]

loved the vid you should diffently paint the detail and maybe do something to it like you did with the class 91

[@nickplant4321]

Hi I watch your videos and find the very inspireing and wonder what the website is called thanks

[@OverthrownEvan]

thanks william really good

[@KnoxGames]

+InterCity82 Ur thinking of the song Thunder Rolls by Garth Brooks

[@woodgatejunction4133]

What controller did you use please as I have this model and wanted to figure out how to work the main headlights on DC

[@coolaboola1046]

Ah give it a try and say the words :) I'll help you phonetically. Fáilte is pronounced as follows: FAULTYEH. Irish Rail would be phonetically: EAR-IN-ROAD (say it as one word) AIR-INN (again as one word)....simples haha....btw love your channel. Im about to start the Model Railway Village that you seemed to stop on at issue 18 haha :) Ill do it on vid so fingers crossed once I start in Jan 2018 Ill get a few tips from your vids....keep up the good work.

[@JohnRyan-rw3hv]

The bottom is grey because they are painted a very light skyblue/light teal in real life

[@jonathankelly7430]

I saw one of those in a depot somewhere near sandymount!

[@jonathankelly7430]

+Kieran “And Joan” McHugh The depot is beside the river liffey. I didn't watch for a long time as I was cycling, but it was by the docks. The class 201 was stationary, but I would have loved to see it in action.

[@jonathankelly7430]

+Kieran “And Joan” McHugh yes it's by the 3arena. I don't think it's very big or as exciting as other depots that mat be found though.

[@aprc1977a]

+jonathan kelly No rail depots in sandymount my friend, by the sounds of it, it must be northwall yard at the back of the 3arena

[@jonathankelly7430]

Yes I realise my mistake. I was cycling by so I wasn't to sure.

[@OverthrownEvan]

they are aloud too couple up to multibil units

[@benbielenberg853]

How to pronounce íarnród eirean. Iran-Road Air-In and the Class 201 only operates freight and Dublin-Cork and Dublin-Belfast.

[@suparnaperumal1589]

U know what the gauge is close to Indian broad gauge (standard gauge in India) it is 5'6" here

[@gtnighthawk4414]

Hey IC82 I have a ROCO Slovak train and you believe it you can move the window wipers but they not motored but you can move them the number of the train is T476 1010 nice vid here and that loco is cool

[@colmsmyth3234]

The one from Waterford to Dublin doesn't use these anymore

[@alexcleary1459]

Thay are on the Dublin to cork main line will

[@HoBoxDwArF]

If you can source one can you do a review on the enterprise train(unsure what class) that runs from Belast to Dublin.

[@taytos93]

The enterprise is this class, the class 201 :)

[@HoBoxDwArF]

Ahh okay thanks

[@railsceneireland8770]

yes but they use 201s in the intercity livery alot and the enterprise sets are being refurbished so 22000s run the service alot

[@lordbuster603]

im irish the locomotive is actually built in america and most are named after irish rivers

[@BritishRail60062]

+lnertales421067 Incorrect. These locomotives were built in London, Ontario in Canada back in 1994/5. Also known as the JT42HCR. The UK Class 60 would have had this design if GM won the heavy haul locomotive building contract back in 1987.

[@ieuandarkes8491]

this model has the same kind of shape as the class 67

[@railpozfr7713]

Nice Vid, nice loco. BTW correct me if I'm wrong - 1:76 is OO scale? if so this locomotive should be exactly like OO scale Bachman of Hornby? All OO scale models are a little big bigger than they should be. You can even say that they are all narrow gauge models because 1435mm/76=18.9 not 16,5mm :) which is cool :)

[@zacm.2342]

That's correct. He was just explaining that in real life they run on a wider gauge.

[@railpozfr7713]

Zac Morris Oh, I see... I'm from Poland You know and i'm not familiar with track gauge in Irland. I thought that only in Spain and Russia they have wider gauge... And of course we have one line with wider gauge, that goes from our coal mines to Russia. It was build during Cold War Soviet ocupation . We learn everyday :). But still OO scale rollingstock is little bit wider that it should be?