OpenMandriva - Install and First Look

[@thomas-i5o7h]

Wow, Mandriva, now there's a name I've not heard in many years !!

[@thejohnbeck]

Ben Kenobi? (DSW sux)

[@sqlexp]

The last time I used it, it was called Mandrake. I bought it physically in a store in Canada in the late 1990s.

[@anonytuser711]

Open Mandriva runs like a dream on my old T440S Thinkpad despite using Plasma. The rolling packages are great and I know there isn't agenda that gets between them and making great software.

[@josmoify]

same here on muh t480.

[@Kq4hcuDan]

I wonder how it runs on a Lenovo yoga laptop

[@fabricio4794]

​@@Kq4hcuDan try Legacy boot not uefi on the bios

[@anonytuser711]

@@Kq4hcuDan They are a standard x86 architecture and are generally supported.

[@Kq4hcuDan]

@anonytuser711 thanks and I dig the doom guy avator you have

[@shaunpatrick8345]

The best thing about having a distro whose controllers don't hat most of its users and potential developers is that we can contribute and donate to it. I'm still using Fedora, whose COC deems me beneath contempt and unworthy of protection against Harry's Mint, but it works.

[@M167A1]

From talking to people in the forum it's got a pretty devout core following but they could certainly use more help.

[@alrivas1477]

Open Mandriva cause I’m a normal guy.

[@50-50_Grind]

Sure you are, lol

[@jonathanhirschbaum6754]

@@50-50_Grind lol, lol

[@k.b.tidwell]

I remember those Mandrake CD's back in the '90's. Speaking of Btrfs, using Timeshift with it is lightning fast. Are you at the takeoff end of the runway or the landing end? Even though Mint never lets me down, I am compelled to try OpenMandriva now again after several years. Just because.

[@PerfMonk]

Interesting. I began using linux with Mandrake and at the time it was very popular since it was the first distribution with a decent installer that made linux accessible to many. Happy to see that their heir distro is still alive and doing well. I might consider OM when I will change my hardware. Thanks for the review!

[@PaxAlotin]

You and me both. Brings back old memories. There seem to be some other older distros making a comeback. Not the same crowd of course - but still nice to see their names once again.

[@elnkr2603]

Good stuff. Maybe I should try it out tbh

[@M167A1]

It's worth a look. I have moved to it on my laptop and I got everything going almost immediately except for the docking station. Somebody on the forum helped me with that and so far so good but I've only been driving it about 3 days.

[@erics7004]

Chad OpenMandriva vs beta Fedora

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

Somewhere a blue hat is crying in a corner

[@xelatonivs8691]

It’s nice returning to the spiritual successor of mandrake, which was my first Linux OS in high school.

[@CCJ1998]

Glad it went smooth for you, I tried twice to install it. Thinking it might have something to do with ventoy on my end. I used to be all about the GUI installers but have kind of shifted to using the terminal for everything, seems faster and less error-prone. Though, using a GUI for a quick look at the repos is handy vs. trying to find the packages listed on the website. Looks like DNF is using the same syntax as apt to install packages, which is always nice. Though I'll probably be making a cheat sheet for this if I manage to get this distro up and running. Hopefully the influx of new users and donations will encourage this distro to polish up the rough edges, I can see there are quite a few there.

[@knifemind]

I don't know the specifics, but there's something causing it to not work with Ventoy. If you just get the iso on a drive by itself you should have no issues.

[@darthkielbasa]

Search OM forums for the Ventoy install solution. Quick fix should you want to try OM again.

[@olexijl78]

I'm missing "Discover", like I'm used from OpenSuse

[@Vasrias]

There is Discover to download flatpaks, or do I misunderstand what you mean?

[@cantdance3077]

Now this is a legit distro install and review, unlike so many "drive-by" reviews that seem to be more about getting clicks. Well done, sir. i've tried it a couple times and I really approve of OpenMandriva's independence as a dstribution. If I can figure out how to get my Brother printer installed, then I would gladly give it a go as a daily driver. Although I do love MX Linux and Endeavour OS.

[@DamnladTrap]

I have to disagree, doing any Linux distro review in the virtual box is doing it huge disservice. Its performing 3 times slower than it would on actual hardware, looks very slow and clunky, so i doubt anyone would be interested in it after looking at how slow it is in this review.

[@cantdance3077]

Fair point. Definitely preferable to install a distro on actual hardware.

[@DaveN-ft8wr]

Recently started using Linux Mint, and find it about 95% there for me. I have OpenMandriva running on another machine from a couple days ago and I think I like the interface better than Mint Cinnamon. Only real issue with O-Mandriva is I can't get it to see my NAS drive at all. Mint found it immediately and has a nice GUI called Firewall Configuration . I am guessing some firewall setting, but I can't find where I would make changes to that in Mandriva. I am also wondering if I did something on the install as I had to try different things several times to get it to run. I am going to keep messing with it, and maybe I will use it in place of Mint. Again, brand new user from Windoze..

[@TremereTT]

So OpenMandriva doesn't come with a SambaClient installed out of the box? Or is your NAS to New or to Old for the Version of the SMB protocoll? So what I mean is does your NAS run SMB I or SMB II and wich version of the protocoll does OpenMandrivas Samba client run? I'm not a professional System-Adminsitrator so I don't know if SMB is even envolved in the Discovery process, as on Windows I think the discovery of Network Filesystems and Computers is done via "WINS" wich is probably also a protocoll I don't know the details about, but on Ubuntu getting Samba configured mostly solved those kind of problems for me.

[@Vyrewolf]

I had issues trying this out, it crashed and then couldn't boot. Ive gone ahead to play around with a distro based on arch, but i may be back on another day.

[@JustinWords]

Are there VPN options available that would work ok with this os. I need to be able to access content from Netherlands. Any suggestions if there are? I'm new to all this, so I thought I would ask.

[@mat314159mat]

Any VPN provider that offers an OpenVPN configuration template

[@josmoify]

hah ,was just waiting for this. watching this from a oma rome edition,lol

[@paullee107]

I also couldny get Discover working - Maybe theres some fix that i didnt apply.

[@Vasrias]

Works for me. What issue do you have and which version did you try? Maybe ask in the forum about the issue. The devs are quite responsive.

[@paullee107]

@Vasrias all installs failed; I'd have to look again at the error code. I tied to update the repos and didn't dig any deeper - not saying there isn't a quick fix... I just jumped into terminal. I will check and post on OM forums/github.

[@pitonsti]

Are you getting those 4 errors about packets every 10 seconds, making Discover unusable? I mentioned them on matrix and one of the devs said "no Discover, no Dragora". So either live with it or use fedora.

[@Vasrias]

@ No, works for me. Thus the question: Which version did you try?

[@pitonsti]

@@Vasrias ROME KDE Wayland

[@gelogia]

For me i need smooth printer support, i guess no one prints anymore. The worst distro for printing is Manjaro.

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

That's interesting. MX is generally one of the best. Try Linux Mint. Every printer I ever threw at that works without any intervention on my part.

[@gelogia]

@@SwitchedtoLinux I agree Tom, MX and Mint are the best at printing. I just installed OpenMandriva on my Proxmox server, i''m loving it so far and was able to quickly get one of printers Brother 2710DW working, had to use the generic IPP printeverywhere driver, but it worked. Thanks for your video on this. I think I will replace Manjaro on my laptop with OpenMandriva. It's kind of a contradiction since OpenMandriva is a French distro and I would have thought they would be the most woke. Looks like OpenMandriva is on its way up the Distrowatch ladder.

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

brlaser was just added, which is the open source driver for a lot of Brother printers.

[@TremereTT]

Cups is unsafe. You shouldn't use it. It allows for remote code execution, you can run any script you want on the Machine via CUPS and the developers of cups don't want to fix that bug, because some (old) printer models rely on the ability to insert a custom script file or to run a custom binary. I know it sucks. And I also run cups anyway. But it's realy not safe.

[@fabricio4794]

My Next Daily distro from my another desktop,Maybe..Maybe im leaving Mint btw...

[@suntoryjim]

Switching to OpenMandriva as my daily driver was easy and nostalgic for me as my journey to Linux all began from a Mandrake CD I got in a magazine back in the late 90s. Being descended from a distro with solid roots in desktop Linux' infancy, I can't imagine a more appropriate Linux flavor to seek refuge from the multitudes of woke Debian and Fedora derivatives (except maybe Slackware or Gentoo).

[@gelogia]

Totally agree, I actually went to a Mandrake users group meeting in the 90s and I still have the Mandrake BIC pen and CD they gave us all, but my Linux skill wasn't good enough to get it working in those days.

[@meekdook4236]

Is linux mint woke?

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

No. The developer has opinions that he made known at one point in time, but he leaves them out of the discussion.

[@meekdook4236]

@ Good. Do you know if Garuda Linux is woke?

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

They copied Gnome's CoC.

[@wes555]

Lunduke sent me. Anti-woke FTW

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

I use OpenMandriva, BTW.

[@TremereTT]

Do they have Merch. Also I wished they would rebrand to Mandrakea and use a tophat, a Staff and Cloak as Logo...You know ...like the Defenders of the Earth Mandrake not like the root. on the other hand... root user and the root that is a mandrake are also a cool play of words...

[@CommodoreFan64]

This looks very promising, & I'll keep an eye on the community GNOME ROME build, as I like GNOME better, and it's only other rolling release at this point. However for now I think I'll stick with Solus Budgie/GNOME even though it won't see the 4K 60hz mode of the 55" non smart Sceptre TV in my gameroom with an AMD RX 6650 XT 8GB GPU, so I'm just running that TV at 1080p 60hz(it does work on Manjaro Gnome just fine on both HDMI 2.0, and DisplayPort to HDMI 2.0 with a proper adapter, but on Solus Budgie/GNOME it's 1080p 60Hz, or 4K 30Hz, & says it's a Sceptre 32" display), so if anyone has any ideas that would be great, as the Solus forums have not been helpful(I'm thinking it's the TV itself, or X11) 🤷‍♂

[@paullee107]

I also went and looked at OM and was impressed. One thing; i couodnt find the server builds at all - they all seemed empty. I wany the woke shell code Lunduke talked about!!

[@phoneywheeze]

on their matrix server they talked about it. it's because the build process for server image is broken on the newer os versions as they haven't built the server images in a while. they said they're working on it.

[@DrivingSander1970]

Is this the Linux distro that FINALLY supports Broadcom WiFi out of the box? If not, I'll stay with Fedora...

[@michaelbuddy]

I've had luck with Zorin supporting wifi right away.

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

No distro will likely support Broadcom out of the box because they do not provide open source drivers.

[@d.d.5942]

No, but someone got it running on his laptop with their “non-free” repository.

[@dezmondwhitney1208]

Well done OpenMandriva.

[@GapRecordingsNamibia]

Hi Tom, I JUST installed OM rome on my laptop, it is really fast and responsive. I want to install it on my desktop but am a bit apprehensive of how it'll detect my other internal dirives. Fedora sort of bit me in the butt on that one as it was a mission to get them detected and loading under Fedora, Fedora kept loading my other drives under "other" and would not let me write to them until I physically added them to /mnt/...... Inside fstab, that was a pain in thr behind, and part of the readon I settled on mint, the other thing that killed it for me eas the Nvidia driver install on Fedora.... Mint just gets it done... You don't have to dick around with downloading from rpm then getting something else on anlther rpm page, then having to look for something else.... I liked the nice clean interface on Fedora, but the hoops one had to jump through to get stuff working under Fedora kind of spoiled the experiance for me...

[@HOBBS-4]

Always smart to unplug the other drives. Can be easily done.

[@raughboy188]

OpenMandriva is thankfully independent distro, i don't know how many of them are there that are built from scratch but finding ones still maintained is easier said than done. Only other independent distro i know of is NixOS. Since you mentioned political talks entering into distros honestly i don't care, if i like distro i'll use it so politics doesn't really matter to me as long as i can use distro the way want to. If you're gonna switch to another distro simply because politics that downright stupid reason, i wouldn't do it for that reason. If you like distro of your choice just use it and don't pay attention to couple of idiots fighting over stupid things as long as it works the way you want it to.

[@downsyndromebear]

I fully agree with the mindset of these guys. I am just to reliant on the AUR for software.

[@LocovsworldNL]

is this a related to mandrake ?

[@jonathanhirschbaum6754]

yes

[@FineWine-v4.0]

Yes, there are 2 actually Mageia & OpenMandriva

[@erics7004]

I need good Nvidia support, nvidia literally broke my MX Linux installation... I'm cooked

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

Linux Mint or PopOS. PopOS has a specific download for NVIDA

[@GoustiFruit]

MXLinux is the only distro that doesn't break my KDE desktop. It's still using Plasma 5, so I don't get any problem from Plasma 6 and I don't miss those old cool features (mouse gestures, window rules, startup/shutdown sounds, ...).

[@xelatonivs8691]

I had the exact same problem with installing Brave the first time.

[@19VikingHero74]

The other openSUSE in called Leap

[@Reziac]

It's not as coherent and easy to use as PCLinuxOS (another Mandrake descendant) but if I had to switch.... yeah, the Just Do Linux instead of Just Do Politics is worth a lot.

[@atticusherodes6648]

This keeps up it looks like the alterantive to mint, soon in popularity.

[@adamberns]

Mandrake, as it was named at the time, was the way to go for a speedy distro. Now I'd rather stick to something more solid like openSUSE.

[@gabrielshansen]

Whats is 'political'? - Exactly? In this context? . . . ...I'll see myself out! ;)

[@rubyvolt]

Check out Mageia. The other fork of MANDRAKE. Similar install. I find it easy even though I always use DVD boot option. Currently running Mageia 9 since last summer. The software chooser is much more of a menu system. I have not had the .rpm problems that have caused issues all over. Getting much better. Having to install the updater? That is nuts. Oh. There is the rpm installer I am familiar with.

[@wes555]

If it can run on Raspberry Pi and hardware accelerate Chromium I'm switching.

[@Staravora]

It's cool that it exists, but I don't see a good enough reason to use it for myself I don't especially like dnf I've been getting into Nixos lately and despite the drama with that I find it's just what I've been looking for If we want to get into the ideological battle aspect then I think we shouldn't be corralled into using something simply because it's not what the enemy team uses. If anything we shouldn't give any ground and continue to use "woke distros" if they continue to suit our needs

[@paullafleur6112]

Looking good!

[@guilherme5094]

👍

[@arsenalgear3009]

Neat

[@swinginggandalf]

"...however we believe Wayland still not to be mature enough to replace X11..." 🤦‍♂ that's the reason why OpenMandriva sucks

[@tonystorcke]

The name.... It sounds like when you open a septic tank. I liked them better as Mandrake.

[@hopelessdecoy]

Marketing politics works. Case and point. If they didn't market this way no one would care about this. Linux Mint is where I remain, they have good code in my book.

[@menzokruizinga]

If there no gnome version I don't touch it I can't stand KDE because I have nothing but problems

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Try the Gnome spin, but it has no v47... I'll go for installing Cinnamon.

[@josmoify]

@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 or even cosmic or xfce

[@williamjp7352]

There is a Gnome spin.

[@M167A1]

I get you. I'm the same way with cinnamon, but as others have said there is a non-main line spin with gnome. So if you're looking to switch this is worth a look

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

Yeah same I would only try it if one can get a functioning Cinnamon DE on it, one can try though (don't have time for that yet to switch from Linux Mint lol)

[@ashley-m2k5m]

A distro that brands itself as "non-woke" is 100% going to be an extremely political distro... More QubesOS videos please? ❤️❤️❤️

[@Vasrias]

Cambridge dictionary defines woke as "aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality". So non-woke means it's unaware or it doesn't care. Doesn't it?

[@jonathanhirschbaum6754]

You can use 1000 others, good riddance, bye

[@pathologicusmaximus]

Do they brand themselves as that? Could you provide a quote from their website that shows this?

[@Vasrias]

@@pathologicusmaximus A quote about what exactly? Maybe this? "The founding values of OpenMandriva are development, equality, co-operation, openness, freedom, group achievement, independence, and solidarity. These values reflect what we believe in and are the main identity of our community. They represent open development of software, equality between all the community members - from simple users to programmers to patrons - cooperation and solidarity between all. We all as a community will achieve our objectives and help to build products that are good for all."

[@pathologicusmaximus]

@ A quote where they brand the distro as "non-woke".

[@jumpnjack808]

i saw the thumbnail and thought is was crap distro. i saw your video and i will not check it out .. thanks

[@wes555]

Best of luck with the gender reassignment

[@centy64]

I don't want politics in software so I made a whole distro a political... Aye, top level geniuses at work here. It's just sad.

[@shaunpatrick8345]

Apolitical does mean there's no politics in it. There is no snowboarding in it either, which does not mean there is snowboarding in it, but that's easier for everyone to acknowledge.

[@GoolagThemTube]

OpenMandriva tries to stay non-political. The only reason they made these statements is because they want people to focus on making good software instead of politics. They're tired of rainbow bugs, absolutely, but only because of their behavior and not because they disagree with their political views.

[@M167A1]

All that prompted the excitement was one of the devs saying they just wanted to do good code. They're not making a huge deal out of not being political. Some outside observers are noticing however.

[@GoolagThemTube]

@Flavor_Flav What they're saying is that people should focus on making good software instead of politics and I totally agree with them.

[@Flavor_Flav]

​@GoolagThemTubeI agree with them too, 100%.

[@50-50_Grind]

We all know what non-woke really means.

[@jonathanhirschbaum6754]

what?

[@dfddsffdfdfgdfg6604]

It means what it means. Or are you exactly the type of person they are speaking about? The type who thinks people are either on your side or they are all the -ists in the world...

[@jonathanhirschbaum6754]

@ Im asking what non-woke means, thats all. I dont think such thing exists. Something is woke/retarded, sure. But non-woke is like callin every car non-yellow (except yellows ofc). Or like calling every person in US non-Eskimo

[@folksurvival]

Sane?

[@FineWine-v4.0]

​@@folksurvivalmore like "I hate it because it ain't my politics"

[@Zam432F]

Great video man 👍