PS5 vs. PS5 Pro Dragon's Dogma 2 | Loading, Graphics, Resolution and FPS Test

[@jamiesomers3564]

I tell you what guys, it’s night and day difference on the pro - I ditched it in the base ps5 because it really was a jittery mess - on the pro it’s unbelievable

[@apache8165]

They created some games so bad on ps5 so ps5 pro will look amazing. Reality is games like spiderman look more blurry because pssr disables sharpening filters

[@luism8130]

Imagine how good it looks and runs for us PC gamers.

[@iBaZiic]

​@@luism8130it runs bad on pc

[@Calibretto9]

FYI, the VRR range of PS5 is 48hz-120hz, so if you’re in the low 40s you’re outside of VRR range and will experience screen tearing.

[@sjay406]

120hz mode as digital foundry said, allows LFC to mitigate this😊

[@JJHULIO]

@@sjay406 LFC sadly is not working anymore on PS5 PRO with the latest patch.Contrary on my PS5 is working fine even now.Already sent a report to capcom support.Can anyone else reproduce this?When playing the game on my PRO everytime framerate goes below 48 fps there is constant juddering and stuttering.On my PS5 this doesnt happen at all.Gameplay is so smooth even if the frame rate is lower than pro because LFC is working as intented.

[@mna.author]

@@sjay406 LFC range is 48FPS min too

[@ratpew3983]

no actually screen tear occurs when your gpu is outputting more fps than vrr range which is not possible on ps5 because it cannot output more than 120fps. screen tear mostly occurs on powerful pc's without proper settings. in case of ps5 if u dip deep below 48fps on vrr, you will experience stutter (not screen tear), which is too common on ps5. btw if u disable vrr u will experience both stutter and screen tear on high demanding games with poor optimization like cod warzone for instance.

[@dooleh84]

​​@@ratpew3983Screen tearing absolutely does happen when the fps falls below 60 or whatever the target framerate is. Not in all games, but in a lot of them it sure does happen, a great one to test this is jedi survivor.

[@lowbudget780]

Good review. This game was basically unplayable for me on the PS5, it's a night and day difference on the pro. I also don't get why people are coping saying they can't see a difference. Yeah of course you won't notice a huge difference watching compressed YT video on your phone or whatever. Plug a pro into a capable display and you will notice the difference immediately.

[@bmwseries3]

That fantasy and gay stuff would be unplayable even on a nasa computer haha

[@mna.author]

The PS5 Pro does look a bit better with PSSR and performance upgrade is cool but ngl for 250$ the best graphics mode should be able to run at 60FPS most of the time at least not 30-45 fps which VRR wont fix

[@Эльза-в8р]

You spent the money, so you found the difference, but you have to somehow justify throwing the money away.

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

@Эльза-в8р At 700$ you can’t buy anything better than the pro, a pc with the same performance would cost at least double and the competition (xbox) just rereleased the base series x for 600$, so if the pro is “wasting money”, what are those other options? You do you, I’m happy with my pro, but those arguments are silly.

[@Эльза-в8р]

@@juancarlosalonso5664 I have a PS 5. PS 5 Pro costs $ 700 in Russia. You are satisfied because you have no choice: either to be satisfied for the money spent, or to think that you were cheated, no one will say so, no one wants to be a fool, even for themselves.

[@markbrendan8774]

Thanks for the video, ended up purchasing the game after watching. So impressed with this game and how the PS5 Pro is handling it. I ended up putting on max graphics to start with and forgot to test other settings as its just been butter smooth on the Pro so much so that i actually didnt think to change the settings. Thanks for all your work on the channel.

[@un4ltered69]

Same ! I’m really enjoying it my series X was okay but had lots of odd graphic issues and stutter with VRR

[@FelipeAPina]

Its looks good on the pro might pick this up as my new game . I didn't get it on the ps5 because it ran like cat water now its time to get it .

[@justfun5479]

30% performance increase for a 80% price increase. Great deal!

[@syedalishah2939]

It's 25% not 80%

[@aichan5235]

@@syedalishah2939 people will say anything to make hate comments on the ps5 pro because they cant afford it.

[@Invisibleman8b5]

@@syedalishah2939$650~$700 for base ps5 in australia and $1200 for the pro. That’s 71.4%~84.6% increase. And it’s the same for everywhere else in the world outside of the US. The base ps5 launched at the same price worldwide only until the ps5 pro they decide it’s different.

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

justfun5479 Your math ain’t mathing.

[@antarcticanman]

​@@aichan5235i can afford a 4090, but that does not mean i will buy it. Value is an important thing too.

[@deadozedo]

Thanks for this comparison. I won't be buying a pro since I have the OG PS5 since launch but I am gonna buy DD2 since its looks way better now

[@C0smicr3aper]

Barely any difference. It's a shame because I was expecting more from pssr. But this should have been expected when the reveal slowed barely any difference between the games they showed. All pssr is doing is making the image slightly sharper on high frame rate and high fidelity displays that support vrr and hdr.

[@deadozedo]

@@C0smicr3aper True. I'm just gonna wait for the PS6. I still got the OG PS5. It can still play games. Not really crazy about graphic on console so performance is enough for me.

[@kato093]

Well ... Emjoy playing it at 35-45 fps. To each their own I guess

[@deadozedo]

@@kato093 don't really care much about fps. I play worse

[@kato093]

@deadozedo I got that much from most people that don't like the pro. Casuals that don't see the difference between 1080p and 4k or 30fps and 60fps.

[@themandalorian9894]

The cookie is the best line in the video 😂

[@eded9157]

Also, between this one and MH Wild it is clear to me that REngine is not for open games, so bad and blurry.

[@topshelfornoshelf2158]

This games is running so beautifully on my oled c3 120hz so glad I choose this first

[@Got-2B-Said]

Nothing more sad than people having to mention their TVs thinking they have something special. Same people that need attention daily in the real world 🥱

[@topshelfornoshelf2158]

@ ur commenting hating , talk about a sad life

[@topshelfornoshelf2158]

@@Got-2B-Said thanks for taking time out of ur day to be negative really suits you

[@RedEyedDRAG00N]

​@@Got-2B-Said Love the PS5 Pro on mg LG C4 77 inch TV. 😁

[@theguy8282]

Can you do ark survival ascended i wanna know if it runs better on the pro

[@bregoffxi]

The difference between 30 and 40 fps is a lot more noticeable than one would expect specially in a supported 120Hz display. It is the fluidity midpoint between 30 and 60, this is extensively discussed for portable like Steamdeck.

[@xFilter1967]

Is PSSR something you toggle off and on or is it automatic? Your analysis is very detailed, excellent video. Subscribed.

[@RamonAlek]

If compared to base PS5 on performance, the Pro "full performance" settings have better image quality?

[@OpenSurprise]

Yes, I show that in Prioritize Performance comparison - so looks slightly better and also better frame rate.

[@ChayaneRuizTorres]

@Open Surprise - Nice content you have been creating to cover PS5 Pro comparisons. I recommend you do overlap still images and more side-by-side 4x zooms. Watching moving gameplay side by side really does not accentuate the visual upgrades the PS5 Pro is targeting. Keep up the good work!

[@apache8165]

It would Show how much blurrier pssr is compared to base as proven in spiderman 2😅

[@ChayaneRuizTorres]

@apache8165 Haha yes you got that right! Compared to the temporal injection Insomniac uses, PSSR is indeed blurry. But for other games it is better depending on the upscaling technique being used. PSSR looks blurrier than FSR for example, in still images, but sharper in movement which is what you mostly spend your time doing in video games. You will see this in the latest Digital Foundry video covering Alan Wake and Star Wars Jedi Survivor. Hopefully PSSR gets improved just as it has been done with DLLS and FSR through time.

[@WllKiedSnake]

Dragons Dogma 2 has LFC in a 120hz container. So as long as the game doesn't drop into the 30's and stays above 40fps, it should feel good still in the demanding modes with RT on and what not. VRR is important to have also.

[@lectiasio3225]

i may be blind because im struggling to see the differences

[@flojd574]

You need to see it person and on preferably on a big 4k TV. Rendering and uploading takes a hit on image quality.

[@k0ah371]

@@flojd574 you will also need to sit 2 cm away from the screen to spot the difference

[@alessandrovalvonovo]

​@@flojd574There's just ridiculous invisible difference!!The best are PS5 slim disc and series X disc!

[@t103rpd7]

​@@flojd574 I have the normal ps5 and I have a small question If the TV is small does it make the frames higher? . And sorry for bad English

[@DripTitan6988]

​@@t103rpd7 TV size does not matter for frames, bigger tv's just look sharper and you can see more details on a big screen

[@chasethechosenone8478]

This game just isn’t well optimized and to me doesn’t look that great to begin with so I could care less if it looks better or not. And once again the pro is gonna shine in future games and it all depends on how much effort the developer puts in. This is just not a good upgrade and not the pros fault it’s on the devs.

[@jestificated]

did not notice a setting in blackops 6 for pssr, did I miss that? would have been nice. Both d4 and bo6 did not seem to have anything unique to the pro hardware settings wise.

[@runnerx3]

I love how Boosteroid eliminates the need for constant hardware upgrades

[@charlyy1337]

Wow, this is an insane showcase for the ps5 graphics wise. Pssr really makes a difference in image quality here

[@F1_A_TODO_GAS]

PS5 pro should cost 500-550€ digital version, not more. 800€ is a f** scam for +10 fps. I think Ps4 PRo was more powerfull on ps4 than PS5 pro on PS5. What an insult for the players.

[@lowbudget780]

Sony should sell this console at a loss? Nice business model lmao

[@F1_A_TODO_GAS]

@@lowbudget780 its 2024, they aren't losing anything. Even they put more expensive the fat version... Sony is a scam. they think are apple.

[@maskedlibrarian1483]

And what you expect the base model to go for 300-350?? You don't think they'd be selling at a loss??

[@F1_A_TODO_GAS]

@@maskedlibrarian1483 still, there is a looooong way from 500€ to 800 (n 920 with disc ) even at 700€ ( 700$ always was 700€ ) is a very high price. For being a "pro" hardware and for more demanding ppl i would understand something like 600 or 650€ not more. I mean, 800€ would be good for 4k 60 fps with all in ultra, or a machine x2 or x3 better than PS5, this is 15-20% better, 800€ definitely is a scam. For the dvmb players. And i can afort 10+ PS5 pro if i want it, but im no dvmb.

[@mna.author]

I wouldnt say 500-550 but 600$ or Euros would be a much better price for the PS5 Pro cuz then it would still be 150$ more expensive not 100$ but you'd still be getting 30% better fps on average in a handful of games while paying around 30% more and getting an extra TB of storage. Decent trade off. More than that it's just no.

[@suprememtf]

I want to prioritize graphics should I play on 120hz or 60hz ?

[@campnguyen]

The editing makes me reminisance of coop with friends on l4d2. Now Monster Hunter Wild is out maybe there's still hope.

[@yurianiqbal5093]

So what is the best mode to play in ps5 pro ? To get the best performance and graphic..

[@zedrinbing]

still cant have a 60 fps experience its the same scenario of 2016 or 17 with the ps4 pro

[@Jayjayxxx007]

If you have a vrr display it doesn’t matter as long as they stay in the vrr range

[@maskedlibrarian1483]

That's one drawback about consoles. The more game technology progresses the consoles are meant to last for almost if not a decade so the whole 4k 60 is only viable to games around when the console launched

[@mna.author]

Its worse. The PS4 Pro was 2.5x as powerful as the PS4 and cost the same. Now we're getting 1.45x the performance at best with a 250$ price hike

[@mefirstplease3676]

Most games on the series x or ps5 hit 60 fps, not sure what you’re talking about. Also this game is demanding on ALL hardware, console and PC included.

[@mefirstplease3676]

@@mna.authorIt’s not a price hike, the console cost what the console cost. Stop saying that. This game is doing 4K and can hang in the upper 50’s and I’ve seen it go above 60 even in this video.

[@JJHULIO]

Just fired up dragons dogma 2 on my new PS5 PRO(i had a save later in the game) and noticed right away that LFC is not working anymore means that if the framerate goes below VRR range(48 fps the counter shows 119 when goes below 48)there is constant stuttering and juddering.Tried graphics and balance mode with RT and framerate was all over the place between 40-70 fps but when the framerate dropped below 48 fps in towns or in batlles stuttering appears.Perfomance PSSR running ok but the resolution is too low and the image quality is bad to play on this setting.Used to play on my PS5 at graphics mode at 35 to 45 fps but frametime was so smooth because the devs had implemented LFC(VRR low frame rate compersation) at patch 7 4 months ago in the PS5 version(Also confirmed by Digital Foundry( kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6qkqaGZh9R3hdk ) and there were no stuttering at all smooth as butter. Now with PS5 Pro every time the framerate goes below the VRR range there is constant juddering and stuttering making the game unplayable for me.I dont know about you but for me even on balanced mode there are many FPS drops on Balanced mode below 48 fps is not smooth at all. Graphics mode was like 40 to 50 fps and Performance mode looks very low resolution worse than PS5 and is a NO GO for me. At this state for me the game is unplayable capcom needs to fix this asap and implement LFC in the PS5 PRO version!And no i can't disable RT for better framerate because the lighting looks completely off without it.I used to play with RT on my PS5 and now i can't!

[@DrJones20]

There is soo much you're missing in your comparisons, they're only good for seeing the fps difference. I can't wait for the real pros, Digital Foundry to finally upload their comparisons.

[@KanKings-r7k]

This guy is a fraud. There are major differences in clarity especially in motion and it shows even in this video. There is pixilated in grass PSSR looks more refine. He also did not test performance mode with Rt on both consoles, cuz that would tank the ps5 version down to the 40 where it would locked 60 on the pro.

[@eded9157]

Its not just effort, some times when games are CPU limited theres no amount of GPU or AI scaling that can help, thats why DD2 towns are so bad

[@QwekQwek-v3d]

Can you do FF16 framerate comparison for Ps5 and Ps5 Pro?

[@Amir-yo1lo]

Big shame ps5 pro can’t run lock 60 on performance mode

[@blackrahk2037]

HORIZON has looks and plays at 60fps no problem on PS5 PRO. Its the developer. This game runs like crap on 4090s too

[@Amir-yo1lo]

@ like Rtx 4090 big joke Rtx 4090 horizon 4k max setting 140 fps average

[@BroHazeman]

Wow, PS5 Pro so beautiful. Definitely will buying it after I'm buying coming Switch 2 next year

[@un4ltered69]

Is it just me or are the shadows and lighting substantially better on the pro regardless of if ray tracing is on or off ?

[@lobstershrimp]

The question isn't if it's better but rather all that extra cost better. Whatever is available on PC I'll play there.

[@ROACH-b8f]

Boosteroid's performance is top-notch, even on older devices

[@EdoXTensei]

I really love to have AI upscaling features in my PS5 Pro, but PSSR need a bit more work around, because as for many games I tested, they all have common issues, like less temporal stability at some flat objects, flickering on foliage, less performance than TAA (if there is a choice to switch). But in the other hand, PSSR handling very well small particles, making them more visible without ghosting, image is sharper, water looks like water, fog looks also pretty decent. So overall there’s lots of improvements over the FSR or TAA, but the flickering on some type of grass/foliage and less temporal stability, making the whole experience mixed. I know, DLSS on first release wasn’t great either, and finally we have something similar on consoles, and I think it will be improved with time.

[@rifkyyudiansyah8423]

Can u disable PSSR? So we can see raw performance from ps5 pro

[@OpenSurprise]

The closest to that is where I showed Prioritize Performance on the Pro, PSSR on lowest setting. Seems to be 65 to 75 in a lota areas.

[@OpenSurprise]

Also im releasing my last of us part 2 remastered comparison soon - for that you will see your RAW performance since PSSR can be turned ON/OFF

[@rui8688]

Priorities performance PSSR on performance mode (Basically 50% resolution) Still cannot maintain 60 fps

[@billclay2701]

Now we are all playing on gaming PCs, the menus are starting to look the same. Not quite as deep as a PC game but consoles used to be just press start. No CPU upgrade for the Pro was a deal killer for me.

[@МухаммедАли-б7д]

Can you test Hitman 3, friend? It's on Pro enhanced list, so it's really interesting if it get native 4K now 🤔

[@MantashaMonster]

VRR won’t make any difference because PS5 pro only support VRR till 45 FPS.

[@Daggershift21]

No point in talking to people. They believe what they b want. A 4tflop console was accepted as a 4k 60fps for last generations refresh and consumers really believe 1440p is a resolution difficult for the series S to reach. There’s a lot of immaturity and the devs take advantage of people thinking they know stuff when they know little to none of what they’re talking about

[@alexgrey5933]

I really disagree with you when you say that the visual differences seem minimal. PSSR is night and day compared to FSR. The image is so much clearer and free of artifacts compared to the base model. You DO NOT need to look closely to see the difference. Whether you consider that difference worth the price is another question though...

[@JKSmith-qs2ii]

Just waiting for disc drives to come back in stock before picking up a PRO. Prioritise performance it is.

[@Bankoru]

Playing it now, I don't see any difference between PSSR Graphics and Balanced, so I don't see any reason to use it, that way you can get RT at 60fps+

[@raijin199]

Whatever.... the upgrade is minimal but, bit I can't say the same for the price. It's not worth it. It's best to just wait for a ps6

[@seanswasey9390]

I’m one of those people that suffer from FOMO and I like having the “better” one if available. Sony has done a terrible job at selling this to me.

[@lowbudget780]

It's way better than the og ps5 unless you have a garbage tv/monitor, then I wouldn't bother.

[@tolgacakir4379]

Still no 60 fps???

[@blessedred]

So it's about 20-30% faster on the PS5 Pro. That seems within margin of other games.

[@TechnoAssassin-vx6zf]

I’m sure most people realise that these are just ‘enhanced’ titles or ‘game boost’ Most devs are onto the next game development cycle so I doubt they want to spend a lot of resources on making games significantly better that are already past their development. I think GTA 6 will be the first to show what the pro can do. Especially when you consider its release date. And Sony having the marketing rights for it. Either way, I’m glad that we are getting some titles from the Xbox devs. Indy looks pretty good. Would’ve been a shame it was an Xbox only title

[@Daggershift21]

I think it’s crazy that effort is an expectation for the ps5 pro but not the series S. If developers just put in the effort in general the series S would have better performance and quality upon release

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Oh but these are just patches, if they made a game for the ps5 pro from the ground up it would be insane. We might that happening later in its lifetime. :)

[@Daggershift21]

@@jacooosthuizen3593 what I’m saying is if they put in effort for a capable console it will have reasonable results. Don’t say it’s about how much effort goes into making the games look great for ps5 but give up on series S because you don’t want to work on it. "All studios that put in the effort" made beautiful games for the Xbox Series S. So I say again how is it a expectation for the PS5 pro when they never put it in for the series S to start?

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

@@Daggershift21 But this is the exact reason why Sony games look and run great. Xbox has the series S or in other words its cripple little brother holding the xbox series x back. They have to always keep it in mind making a game. 12 terraflops is wasted on series x. Glad Sony's methods are paying off cause damn id be pissed if i owned a xbox and its under performing.

[@4bryan4]

​@Daggershift21 the series s is weak for the games coming out nowadays, they are trying to give the s a chance but 4 teraflops vs 10/12 ps5 / xsx and now 17 from the pro..

[@AbzRaider]

@@Daggershift21 bro do you know specs of series S the gpu is weaker than one x nd also for pssr ai upscale u need ai cores on gpu nd extra ram that simply series s cannot do its a hw limit.

[@Elohim33Yah33]

2:03 If You Can't See The PS5PRO 12k Resolution Your Broke Vision Is On 😂

[@LostboyUk]

Just getting rid of that horrible fsr ghosting and other artefacts is the biggest plus for me.

[@fingerstyle9165]

lets hope when devs optimise their games on series x ^^ finally the community understand that series x is the pro version of this generations ^^

[@R8qq-x1l]

Boosteroid's affordability makes high-end gaming accessible to everyone

[@axel1506]

Both have same performance and almost same fps only 10-15 fps

[@1gta4gta]

Cope

[@dante19890]

that can make a game go from unplayable to playable

[@Dahk]

So… what you’re saying is that… they dont have the same performance or fps?

[@Draiver165]

I just don't get how games like these look either horrible or outdated, and still have terrible performance.

[@fillmb]

this gen is making this look normal. PS4 e Xone have games with better graphics and running better

[@BigdaddyDalaodie]

Agree, those games feel off, ray tracing is something really drags consoles down into water, those guys just want to sell the graphic cards. good artstyle and hand made graphics are dead.

[@damianwozniak3946]

For all the crutizism I would give DD2 as a game graphics is definitly not one of them. What do you nean it looks "outdated"? There are definitly areas that can look wonky on console but generally DD2 is easily among the best looking open world games out right now. It has the best looking fur in any game I have seen.

[@DrJones20]

Don't look horrible at all

[@damianwozniak3946]

​@@BigdaddyDalaodie It's funny how you say "good artstyle and hand made graphics" are dead in the context of DD2, because pretty much everyone agrees that DD2s realistic fantasy aesthetic is one of the best things about the game. What you say is also blatantly false since the majority and some most successful games in recent have styalized graphics (which I asume you actually mean by "artstyle"). Elden Ring, Persona 3 Reloaded, FF7 Rebirth, Metaphor, Palworld, Fortnite, Baldur's Gate 3, FF14, WoW etc. to name a few. And know what some if these games also have technical issues like blzrry graohics and highly incinsistent framerates...almost as if it optimization has nothing to do with artstyle, graohics or whatever. Btw the largest sector in the industry, that being indie also pretty much exclusively uses "artstyles" and hand made graphics...so again you are just blatantly wrong. I don't disagree with the ray tracing bit. The technoligy itseld is great and can significantly imorove the visuals of any game be it with or withput any particular artstyle, but it's also highly demanding on the current hardware. Then again a bumch if games use it and don't run like shit so ut also boils down to how it's used and how much wirk the devs put into optimization with the tech enabled.

[@dooleh84]

The term "polished turd is still a turd" comes to mind here. Not that capcom did much polishing, but it is still a turd of a game performance wise. The pro disappointed me with the low performance vs very high price, I won't bother spending so much money for another sub 60fps console.

[@aaru9556]

hahahah devs is actually really can patch this performance on a base ps5 its just sony's doing marketing selling ps5 pro so now the devs will not update based ps5 version and forcing the consumer to buy ps5 pro with mini percent upgrade, and now Monster Hunter Wild is were facing same issue like take a look the 1st gameplay of MH wilds it runs smoothly graphic looks crispy until ps5 pro announce and you see how much blurry we got from beta in MH wilds ahahahha

[@RedEyedDRAG00N]

Delusional denial.

[@ceedee6279]

It didn’t struggle on the series X tho

[@iznax9]

That's the biggest difference we have seen so far, and yet is not that massive

[@martinliftfield6481]

25 FPS difference IS very massive. Dont know what you expect.

[@groooover4754]

@@martinliftfield6481 Exactly + better image quality(sharper and no fsr artifacts), idk what people were expecting

[@pietroscarpa2384]

People are expecting native 4k at 120fps. Otherwise they will see no difference.

[@damianwozniak3946]

What exactly is your definition of massive? This is like a 30% boost in many cases which for all intents and purposes is massive, espacially for this game. If you epected anything above that then that's on you. Also the game can now run oretty much at 60 during combat without RTX, which is all that should matter to most people.

[@JustVC]

​@@pietroscarpa2384so, they need to wait for 5090, because even 4090 can't do that lol

[@zerosam5541]

Consile players have been playing on 30 fps for years why now acting like 30 is not good

[@BilltheChristianPickle]

Because standards are going up most people refuse to play a game if it isn't at least 1080p 60fps.

[@Daggershift21]

I feel the same way 30 fps is only bad when it’s not locked and there is screen tearing. Anything we watch that isn’t gaming is definitely displayed at 24hz or 24fps. I prefer graphical fidelity and a locked frame rate so I lean towards single player adventure/action games instead of multiplayer first person shooters but I still play call of duty 😂😂😂. Racing games at 30fps have a better sense of speed but require twice the reaction speed to be successful at 60fps it just requires less input but feels a lot slower. Overall if you aren’t playing an online multiplayer then 30fps is perfect for console. Consoles out do arcade games, PC out does console games. That’s just the lay of the land. Arcade gaming was indeed a perfect 60fps but consoles never wanted or needed to replicate their perfected frame rates I think it’s just people not knowing what consoles are for that push them to want things not meant for consoles. Fidelity and playability without losing out or compromising on anything is the point of a gaming console. Locked frame rates and native resolutions are what the console era is all about not dynamic resolution scaling it so upscaling for a low native resolution. If we stop asking for things that don’t belong in console gaming we can get back to great console games existing

[@那人冷靜一點]

​@@BilltheChristianPickle no they aren't, if they REALLY want to up their game then they'll play on pc😂

[@Pelayum]

@@那人冷靜一點 He's right. Last generation we saw a push for 60 fps (At 900p or 1080p mind you) and this generation it's even more standardized. Yes, obviously get a PC if you want better performance and visuals, but that doesn't mean consoles should be content with standards from the 2000s when clearly these consoles can handle more

[@gta1977]

60fps is the standard now.

[@JohnConnor636]

I love my PS5!

[@ESKATEUK]

120hz mode running at 50-70fps 💀 the ps5 pro is rtx 3070 level at best.

[@mefirstplease3676]

Wait, so the 3070 is doing 4k at 60 fps on this game? 🤨

[@ESKATEUK]

@ hahah, do some research mate. It’s not running at 4k 60 on the ps5 pro either. It’s running at 1920x2160, which is half the pixels of 4k, and roughly equivalent to running in 1440p. It is then upscaled through checkerboarding to 4k. It is not native 4k, it would be the equivalent of running the 3070 in 4k then putting DLSS performance on, which yes, the 3070 could definitely do. I would also like to make it clear it only achieves near 60 when in performance mode, quality mode drops it down to around 40. In performance mode the dynamic resolution is working its magic and dropping that resolution whenever it gets intensive. The amount of software going on to play it on console is crazy, you turn those software features on with a 3070 and you will get very comparable performance.

[@mefirstplease3676]

@ It’s not checkerboarding it’s using PSSR which brings the output to 4K(so you’re wrong in that aspect).Also who cares if it’s not native? PC has been using DLSS and FSR for years, so that point is mute. I’ve seen videos of the pro in the upper 60’s and even 80’s and it’s even happening in this video. Like did you even watch the content? Also comparing it to a 3070 also I’ve looked at the 3070 footage of the game and they are in the 40fps range with low resolutions 1080p and 1440p using dlss. Meanwhile, this is hitting mid 50’s and up in demanding areas at 4K. Good effort but you’re wrong bro. 😎

[@ESKATEUK]

@ you don’t have a clue what you’re on about, but it’s alright I cant be bothered to waste my time battling you 😂

[@mefirstplease3676]

@ Engage with what I’m saying though. Like you just give up but don’t address any of my actual points because you know you’re wrong😂😂😭🤣🤣🤣

[@stylesick4ever]

Balanced mode is the best

[@Got-2B-Said]

Double the price for a slight improvement. Sony are the kings of mugging of their player base. And the majority lap it up. They're like a Walmart version of Apple fans.

[@34damkal]

funnny part is i bought ps5 for 450$ here in Norway new one on sale and ps5 pro is 930.....that's joke its duble as much just for few fps more.....

[@Karol-g9d]

if you are using a tv , turn off fit to screen in standard , then in hdr . On s90c you need to keep gaming mode off sadly and to get bt 2020 you'll need to manually set via custom . Hopefully ps5 abide by standard and use relative colorimetry for 709 and 2020 . It seem xbox does not . Xbox seem use pc percepetual on tv . Wich is a mistake since everything on tv is 709 or 2020 ycbcr 4.2.0 with fit to screen off . If you smart calibrate , turn off fit to screen first

[@Yaahzy1]

People are buying an entire new console the price of the 4080 for a 10 fps upgrade.

[@iznax9]

@@Yaahzy1 10 FPS at bets

[@aichan5235]

i have a 4080 build, and my pc is NOWHERE in the realm of $700 i'll tell you that. my build cost roughly $2600. People have money to spend on $700, but not $2000+

[@ameerr0812]

4080 only what about other component cpu mobo ram??

[@aichan5235]

@@ameerr0812 exactly. bro thinks you can purchase a 4080, and your pc will run lol. People will say shit about the ps5 pro because they cant afford it.

[@cayden_alexis6562]

Right but the 4080 needs other expensive parts to run. I’m a pc player I have over 20 PCs in my home and I build pc for my job. I hate when people compare consoles with only on pc parts this is dumb . Nvidia counts on you .. 4080 is so over priced even used . I paid 2300 for my 4090 alone .. in console standard yes it’s more compares to pc it’s a cheap buy. I struggle building a 700 dollar pc for run game decent compares to ps5 pro…only thing on pc you can lower quality to have stability. Developers can do that on console but choose not to.we need graphical customization on console .

[@whisper711]

Looks same one difference is price.

[@GoldenArmsPR]

IDK why its annoying me that he has his lantern on all the damn time lol

[@dathip]

The FPS spikes are an ABSOLUTE MESS! Wont support this game until its bargain bin. What a pathetic embarassment.

[@mna.author]

PS5 Pro sucks man. 55% price hike compared to PS5 Slim Digital for 30% more performance on average and PSSR support. And thats not compared to the pricing in other countries like in Europe its 800 Euros in Europe. I get it things are getting expensive to manufacture but PS5 runs 4 year old hardware now and PS5 Pro runs also 4 year old hardware with a 2 year old GPU. Prices shouldnt be that high

[@danielcuchallocruz6986]

Actually it looks like the standard ps5 is getting nerfs so the ps5 pro looks better

[@RedEyedDRAG00N]

Clown comment

[@Eli-ks7pb]

It's so dumb to buy a whole another console during the same generation just for this...

[@alexblack9290]

Это типа реклама пс5 про чтоли? Спасибо не надо у нас тысячу баксов стоит без дисковода))

[@TheSurfheart]

I’m not sure why this game runs so poorly, it’s not exactly a looker

[@willbearheart7919]

Piss poor job by the devs on the optimization.

[@NewState-j7r]

Resumindo PS5 pro só tem apenas upscaling.

[@BLSRevil]

People claiming the game is shit looking on base PS5 are probably Sony payed employees, the game looks amazing on PS5, if developers can't make a game where pedestrians show up normally in a medium city it's not console fault

[@DIMIX0ND]

я думал может быть задумаюсь о покупке если в догме будет стабильные 60. ясно, за 1000$ я лучше пк соберу где догма2 будет просто летать

[@alvinamana1459]

To get 120 you need to turn off the features you paid an extra 200 dollars for 😂😂

[@itsPHX]

Bro what a shame

[@mefirstplease3676]

What’s the shame part?

[@itsPHX]

Half sec quicker, win its a win... 800 euros and you cant tell the difference?!

[@mefirstplease3676]

@ You can’t tell the difference between the higher frame rate and the higher resolution? Like when the video started and he had the PS5 and the pro side by side it immediately looked smoother and clearer. I mean if you can’t see higher frame-rates and better resolution. Either the console isn’t for you or you actually need a vision test. I know not everybody has 20/20 vision but my gosh bro, schedule an appointment.

[@itsPHX]

@@mefirstplease3676bro it improves 1 fps most of the time, stop being a fanboy, and look at it, 800 fuc... euros, for a console that doesnt deliver stable 60 fps.. yh for you to see a difference you need to pause your game and zoom it 4x hahahaha

[@User4763]

​@@mefirstplease3676 Ps5 slim: US$ 379 Ps5 pro: US$ 700 Come on, if you've never bought a PS5, is it worth paying almost double the price for an increase in FPS and resolution with AI many times? (Not to mention the inconsistency of the FPS increase) If you already have a PS5, is it worth paying an extra $700? The difference of this game LUCKILY has changes, Take Spider-Man 2, Silent Hill 2 remake, Almost the same thing, The changes are subtle and for casual players this is not important at all, Remembering that not all companies optimize properly, causing less impact from the Ps5, The difference is acceptable if you really REALLY enjoy playing, And even then 700 dollars?

[@justinhalen2126]

Wow the idiots put in 120hz mode, but forgot to enable vrr LFC.

[@WllKiedSnake]

It has that LFC in a 120hz container.

[@justinhalen2126]

@@WllKiedSnake Only if the developers implement it. If you look at the video the refresh rate jumps straight to 120hz (119) whenever the fps is below 48.. If it was LFC then it would be multiplied, example, 45fps will become 90hz, etc...

[@WllKiedSnake]

@justinhalen2126 They did implement it in this game. When it shows 119fps that's when it's below 48fps and LFC will kick in till it's back above 48fps, and the fps countrr will start working again. Because in this game they did implement LFC in a 120hz container. Now if it didn't have LFC in a 120hz container you'd feel it stutter. But for this game they did. Even base PS5 has it.

[@elsopi1704]

mi RTX 2070 del 2018 a 1440P me da 60 fps .

[@Alzrozax]

Tested this on my Sony oled a95l with the ps5 pro and I gotta say it’s quite the improvement from what I was working with before

[@Solidsnake724]

PSSR is hardware based not software.

[@rui8688]

Nope. It's a just temporal upscaler with sharpening filter like DLSS

[@1gta4gta]

​@@rui8688No the PS5 Pro has an AI accelerator like Nvidia GPUs, PS5 and AMD GPUs do not have it

[@PlutonianPrince]

@@1gta4gta AMD 7000 Series has Ai cores. It's the pre series that do not.

[@dante19890]

@@rui8688 No DLSS and PSSR is a machine learning based upscaler with silicon deticated to it on the chip. Its not like FSR

[@1gta4gta]

@@PlutonianPrince FSR doesn't utilises AI cores

[@inborg13]

game looks like a 2016 or 2018 release, what a trash optmisation on PC as well

[@slipkout2155]

dd2 running 45 fps on ps5 pro what a L console

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

Definitely not worth the money.

[@seangonzalez9025]

Nobody really cares for the Ps5 pro and its not selling well

[@makralecturer]

No way! Console should never make player care about setting.

[@haruhidaso]

PS5 pro has better sale than PS4 pro in the same time period 🤷‍♂️ People online just wanna complain. This is 30-40% increase in frame rate + a significantly better image quality thanks to pssr. What more can you ask? Do these people want PS5 pro+ with 4090 equivalent with bleeding edge cpu that cost 1500 or something lol?

[@Gibsonman92]

you're absolutely right. this machine will turn upcoming games into something special. 😊😊

[@iznax9]

@@haruhidaso Hahahaha cope harder

[@bfhandsomeface409]

Not a bad improvement if you take into account the percentage of fps gained.

[@TreasureHunterxp]

ps5 pro 🤣

[@amol2772]

Try final fantasy 16 that game kill ps5

[@corey_massey]

You should see the PC performance....unless you wanna add input lag with frame generation, you are gonna be hard pressed for systems that can actually run the game at 60fps locked.

[@amol2772]

@corey_massey i have seen bro its even wrost my 3050 laptop getting 20 fps in 720p

[@lstsoul4376]

​@@amol2772 3050 is a pretty bad gpu especially the mobile version...

[@amol2772]

@@lstsoul4376 bro I am talking about 720p not 1080p and for some reasons dlss is not working properly

[@corey_massey]

@@amol2772 Then you know that there is no way they could fix the framerate without fixing the engine spikes that cause the framerate issues. Very seldom is the game CPU or GPU bound, the framerate issues come specifically from engine bound spikes where sudden spikes in the cpu load increases causes the game to drop frames. Without using frame gen, even a 4090 and 7800x3d spikes drops under 60fps in towns and in the open hub areas. The irony is that the game pretty much spikes in the exact same places as the PS5 version so it's clearly something in the game engine and less about the hardware. A pro patch won't necessarily help because the game will look better but it will still have those CPU spikes and short of the 9800x3d you can pretty much expect that the framerate will drop below 60fps....of course how much it drops below 60fps is gonna be determined by your CPU....not necessarily the GPU.

[@ryan6921]

still waiting for ps6

[@t.h.9897]

I got a console to NOT worry about settings. I just wanna play man, now I can switch to PC for good

[@schikey2076]

if you dont want to worry about settings... dont use them. its wild how people are so against having more options on how to play their games... im a pc player and dont care about the ps5 pro.. but i'll always advocate for console users to have more graphical settings...

[@rhysrawlings9260]

Doesn’t wanna worry about settings but wants to get a pc?😂

[@timeforown2234]

Hahaha lol

[@nightwolf4011]

This dude makes no sense lol

[@Crimsongz]

Stay in your lane lol

[@joellynch7722]

THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE 💙💙💙

[@truthdrifter]

800EUR piece of junk.

[@Barni014]

You maybe

[@lecrutiz1052]

Why are you crying though? They are not forcing anyone to buy it right?

[@martinliftfield6481]

Nope IT IS actually awesome .poor Guy?

[@truthdrifter]

@@lecrutiz1052 I said it's a 800EUR piece of junk. Why do other people opinion bother you?

[@axel1506]

Sony was like "Y'all don't need to compromise graphics for fps anymore" but seems like they lied to us :)