OPR Grimdark Future Fire Fight | First Impression

[@phoenixhazard]

Warhammer is playing rules, OPR is playing a game. It’s nice to focus your energy on strategy and not on looking up 1000 obscure rules.

[@8triagrammer]

I've played Grimdark Future with my 40k models several times, and can say it's an amazing game and maybe the most well balanced sci fi miniature game I've ever seen.

[@JEGranberg]

The simplicity of One Page Rules is the major draw for me. It allows for play without having to memorize all the special rules and interactions for both armies during play. It also reduces the amount of rules referencing and has alternating activations. The simpler rules also help with my gaming group as I can host a game and players are able to pick it up easily.

[@DelightfulTyrant]

Firefight is legit amazing. It took a week to get half my local playgroup going on it.

[@johnscarr70]

Short and sweet rules make for great games. Yes let's have more content on this topic.

[@tablesaltgames]

I’m ready to give it a big push. Our hobby needs a new headliner lol

[@tomusannonymous]

same I've tried to learn gw games multiple times, reading their rules just drains my will to actually play the game.

[@michaelsudsysutherland5353]

Well, your channel earned my Subscription today. OPR, Conan, and especially Battlespace. Also, that two ship of Mustangs hanging on your wall really pushed it over the edge!

[@kellykuciemba6789]

Great decision! These miniature agnostic games are great. There are so many miniatures out in the world, it's so much fun building your own armies, repurposing armies and old projects into something you can use for this or other games. No official models, rules to buy to use your specific models, constant changes to spur you to buy more without finishing your last project. You can always use your army now! It's really fun to build new armies just for these rules, and the models they sell for the game are really cool as well if you need more minis!

[@michaelb6186]

Dude, just came across your channel - I'm a couple weeks late on this one but definitely do a Let's Play and a How To Play for the different OPR systems.

[@almister]

I love it because everything is balanced and there isnt the restrictions of list building. Victory seems more based on your decisions then just listbuilding meta. For being a “beer and pretzels” game it doesnt feel mindless especially using the advanced rules that allow for special actions like overwatch and hunker down etc

[@1000buffalo]

Enjoyed several solo games of OPR GDFF on a small table. Been getting use out of my Space Orcs, Space and Chaos Marines. Great army builder tool; makes it really easy to bash together a list.

[@Skulliver-t8q]

You are making a good call. Welcome to the world of OPR! GDF at the army level is a blast too and Warfleets is some great space battle action. Firefight is also awesome for scratching the Necromunda itch. When you add the STL drops and awesome models to print this is some of the best value in gaming. Again, welcome to the world of OPR.

[@One_More_Page]

Welcome to the community! I love playing the Alien Hives, but I use models from StarCraft 2 Zerg.

[@SavageBruski]

Having played 40k since 3rd ed, I'm glad to see more shifting from that to Agnostic games like OPR. Between rising costs, worse-than-ever-rule-creep and the constant need to keep up with a changing META, I think this was inevitable.

[@JevousGaming]

I've had these rules printed out and not played for such a long time that they have since updated the rules, so I'll have to redo them! Have you looked at The Doomed yet? I've been enjoying that immensely as a solo skirmish player. Even got some pvp games in with a friend recently.

[@1000buffalo]

Thumbs up on The Doomed. Fun as a solo game

[@tablesaltgames]

I’ve seen one let’s plays of The Doomed. I’ll have to see more on it before I pick it up.

[@jeepnwithdog]

Glad you discovered OPR, I’ve been playing fir a few months now. Lots of fun and the cost of entry is a big selling point to get others involved.

[@pierremilko6289]

Escaping from GW heavy games and depressing lore is like escaping an abusive relationship

[@thomaswilliams5005]

I really like that cracked desert map.

[@QjoCabz]

My friends, much like myself, are husbands and dads with full time jobs, and it’s difficult to pay hundreds of dollars for a 4 hour game we MAY get to play together once every 6 weeks. OPR makes it SO much more approachable for us. $30 on 10 models from a third party shop somewhere, and a bit of rules review for 45 minutes of fun and exciting gameplay. Makes us busy dads happy.

[@bobedwards7592]

What I like about OPR is it does take 4 whole turns to play, none of this being tabled by the end of my opponents 2nd turn

[@yagsipcc287]

I love OPR minis are really good others are amazing! I love them been with them since 2020 and its always growing big time hell the rules alone are just brilliant and even if you just wanted the rules buy them you get the full rules to add extra things to games make them more complex if you wish nad pick and choose from many options. Their army builder is amazing as well people can make and upload their own armies and the community rates them its amazing! very easy to make your own army, also many STL creators have supported it with rules with their own armies and others created rules for it. Well worth it.

[@nathangerardy2669]

OPR, subbed. Please do more. Show us more please!

[@Forge_n_Brush]

I am a HUGE fan of OPR. ANd if you're into 3d printing - like me, even better. Would love seeing more OPR stuff. ~Fritz

[@kaidelege7579]

Subbing for more OPR content. I love being able to paint my Warhammer models and then play them using OPR. The best of both worlds!

[@biggyrich]

Of the two i think full grim dark is better than fire fight. I just feel there are some other systems that nailed the skirmish size better. Great vid like the minis

[@dutch1987]

Coming from warhammer I'm doing a ork and blood battle brother armies. However, because I play D&D I love the option of the fantasy game where I can have my halfling warlock who sided with goblins and a mindflayer and make a skirmish army with it! Definitely picking up the vampire lords when it comes out and I want to pick up the blessed sisters when I get paid!

[@Coldstar86]

Jackals is a great faction to get into, the scrapers of the galaxy. Take other alien tech and make it there own. Starhost is a great well rounded faction with a wide range of play styles to bring to the table and who doesn't love a gator with a rocket launcher on its back.

[@D3vious113]

Howdy o7 I recently grabbed the Jackals and the prints are GORGEOUS. However just a friendly warning; be careful if/when you print them because the legs, wings, and little dishes on the backpacks all break very easily at least when I pulled them. Not anything a bit of glue couldn't fix but worth noting.

[@tablesaltgames]

Thanks for the heads up, went with the STLs because it was such a great deal. Got enough for 3 squads (3 different factions) for $35.

[@thel1chking]

Glad you’re coming to the light side - and yes you don’t need a printer. I don’t - I get off Etsy. They clean it real well and I still cheaper than GW. Also - it can be Competetive with the tournament rules etc - it’s more about choosing your units wisely rather than list building ( gw games ).

[@House-Atreides]

Cheers to OPR! Awesome alternative to GW’s predatory practices and bloated rules. I’ve adopted OPR for Aliens vs Predator, and Star Wars as well.

[@xander9460]

MAN! Not to mention that buying a decent 8K 3D Printer and accessories IS WAY CHEAPER! Then buying a single Warhammer army. AND you can print all these other cool mini ranges! For collectibles, DnD, YOU NAME IT! AND THEN PRINT INFINITE AMOUNTS OF THEM UNTIL MATTER IN THE UNIVERSE RUNS OUT!

[@fenfire3824]

So would you compare Fire Fight with Killteam or would you say, it is different on its own? What I liked about KIllteam v1, was the individual progress in the campaign, that the models got XP and you could upgrade their equipment. That is also the reason, why i really don't like Killteam v2 at all.

[@tablesaltgames]

I haven’t played killteam v2 and only a handful of games of v1. I will say I prefer OPR over KTv1. OPR has its own feel but I’d compare it to the small 40k starter sets where you get a hand full of models and the games are really fast paced and punchy. I’ll have to play a lot more games of OPR to see if that wears off but for now I’m happy with what it brings to the table 😅 (dad joke)

[@macewen1]

Honestly I house rule 2 things. I think that 4 round limit is fine for some things but I ignore it for most things other than take and hold scenarios. I also dislike that there are no route and rally mechanics so I also house rule that.

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

l am a big fan of OPR... played 40K from late 4th edition until 6th/7th edition...and Kill Team in some of it's earliest incarnations as well as the 2018 boxed game and Elites expansion. I really tired of chasing the 40K rules books and changes, and the new 2021 version of Kill Team didn't appeal to me. In the last few months I have however been tempted to try out the newest version of Kill Team, and might go ahead and give it a go. Have you ever considered the Kill Team game from GW?

[@JohnGlocktober]

We love Wrhammer. GW hates Warhammer.

[@jorgeclarkson8286]

I'm really starting despise that miniature content is just people using GW bait for views.

[@jasongarner4923]

I'm not sure why this would be taken as GW bait when the title is the actual name of the OPR rules set.

[@thomaspetersen4105]

"Grimdark" is nothing GW specific; it is used as a genre for games, art, miniatures etc. Maybe, the base is GW, but it has become something of its own. GW has no rights on it. Everyone who not only is into 40k should know this. And if you want to know a real grimdark setting, try Turnip28. Or give at least OPR a try.

[@SpooKimi]

@@jasongarner4923 the thumbnail has in big bolt text "don't need warhammer anymore" all it does is harm the game imo, as it just has a salty community vibe, just all salty ex warhammer players instead of peeps being hyped about their game. while im sure a lot of peeps are just hyped for the game makes it only more sad to me that almost all yt content need to reference warhammer (especially negatively) instead of just focusing on the game when i look at turnip28, i just see peeps having fun and not focusing more that peeps know they are better than warhammer cuz they know it's a negative mentality and everyone will prefer other games. turnip looks really fun to try out and join the broader community as they don't give off the same negative vibe as opr

[@SpooKimi]

@@thomaspetersen4105 see my comment above

[@chriskoeder1229]

​@SpooKimi There are a lot of people that are dissatisfied with GW. It's also nothing new, been going on for a very long time. You can't say something is a suitable replacement without first referenceing the thing that you are replacing.

[@oldlobster]

Yeah, no. That type of click bait title is how you get blocked.

[@jasongarner4923]

How is this a clickbait title when the title is the actual name of the OPR rules set

[@oldlobster]

maybe DONT NEED WARHAMMER ANYMORE might give you a hint

[@comradedangerfield]

@@oldlobster he obviously doesnt need that bloated mess of a rules system if you bothered to watch the video