Optical SteadyShot vs In-Body Image Stabilization

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[@534daro534]

YESSSS! I was waiting for this kind of video!

[@leonarddavis8449]

Should have been using slow shutter speeds to test the stabilisation for stills.

[@pizzablender]

For testing stabilization in photography, you really need to have longer shutter speeds (1/30th at 30mm for example) and take a number of shots. Also, aperture around 5.6-8 so that focus is not so critical.

[@henryD9363]

Thank you, thank you thank you! You are the first reviewer on KZbin to tackle this topic. You did a really good job in making the comparison. Thanks again. I should add It's amazing that of the hundreds of KZbin photography comparison videos I've watched, nobody has ever done an in-body versus optical stabilization comparison. At least never for the Sony. Congratulations and thanks again.

[@IRFAN-po5sz]

Can you please recommend me that for a6400 which lenses i must buy. ? Thanks i already has 18-135 kit lens.

[@jaikavi5464]

Nice to see a comparison between optical and internal stabilisation. Taking this further, it would be helpful to see the comparison for video between either one one these stabilisation functions and both together! Thanks

[@Migu31m]

Love the examples and knowledge you shared in this video. I bought the A6300 and then realized the 6500 came with IBIS and was thinking of upgrading for the sigma trio but thanks to your examples I will keep my 6300.

[@MikoTiotangco]

Thanks for this! Great video. I’m using an a6500 and i love its ibis a lot.

[@jelianfilm1434]

Dito ka naman boss. 😁

[@lostinoc3528]

Why do you love the Ibis, when this video shows it's useless?

[@mehul3028]

@@lostinoc3528 He has no other option

[@project-overland]

Ibis is meant for stills work, not video, it’s a common misconception (ps, I am an a6500 owner - use a ronin or slider when needed)

[@NathanElcoate]

@@lostinoc3528 Ibis for stills. Makes a huge difference.

[@scottwu]

Thank you so much for this! Would be cool to also see test footage of both IBIS and OSS working together

[@franklinmichael671]

Yeah that would be great

[@zw2237]

Excellent job, as always. I have been wondering about this sort of thing.

[@noisackda2564]

The video I didn't know I wanted. Excellent content Arthur.

[@Conceptx9]

I was waiting for the color science comparison between the a6400 and 6500, thanks!

[@florawirz7613]

Conceptx9 I would really love to see that !

[@Mriceman604]

Perfect timing this video came out, was thinking this yesterday n searching

[@thomasp5185]

Get this man to 100k! He makes great videos.

[@quartet111]

He is there now

[@andreeadobre3190]

I'm looking into these things since I just bought an A6400. It's a bit bizarre for me when most of my university time (cinematography) was about how to do image stabilization with your bare hands and body, and I did just fine for years with an old beat up Canon 550D and vintage lenses. It's cool how much technology can do for us but let's not forget that skills > gear. Learn how to position your arms, how to move your legs when shooting handheld video walking or even with a tripod, how to sync your breathing to what you do with the camera etc. Be aware of everything your body is doing in relation to the camera, experiment, practice. It's all free.

[@mirrorlessny]

so true there are many things one can do to make things more smooth, good thing recently Sony introduced ACTIVE IBIS which noticeably improves stabilization on cameras like ZV-1 & A7SIII, hopefully all their future models will get it

[@kubaskrzypek1547]

Man, you've just dispeled all my doubts that I have had for last few weeks. You should get The Oscar for that!

[@mctwain5319]

Damn good job love your channel and reviews!

[@BShane-ji7ln]

Thank you so much for this vid. yes, I just picked up the a 6400 and I was a little concerned about the lack of Ibis but you totally made it clear that it doesn't make a difference, and for video you definitely need a gamble anyway. Thanks dude, I love your videos!

[@IRFAN-po5sz]

So which lenses you are using for a6400. Thanks

[@floridaofiowaaerialsandpho1440]

Great comparison. I have personally found IBIS to make a big difference for me as far as photography goes vs OSS. As a landscape guy, I tend to leave my tripod in my vehicle much more often and rely on handheld methods for single shots.

[@breezekiteboarding884]

Thanks so much for this video, helped a lot with my purchasing choice. You ROCK!!!

[@anoop7005]

amazing amazing review Arthur.. It helped

[@larrykay6606]

Tamron VC lenses for the Sony e mount have image stabilization. I had a Tamron Di III VC 18-200mm and the Vibration Control (VC) worked great on my A6000. Steadyshot is simply what Sony calls their lens IS feature.

[@kevmaninc201]

Very Informative Videos. Great job!!!!!!!!

[@alexandergavrilov2566]

Thanks for another great video! An unrelated request - any chance you would post some tutorial videos? Your pics and videos are amazing. I'd love to learn which settings you use on the camera. I just bought a6500 after watching your channel for a while, and I'd love to learn how to use it better. Yeah, I know, there are other tutorial channels out there. I like your videos though. No-nonsense, to the point, just the right length and great info. Thanks!

[@jhh243]

This really helped me, thank you so much sir! Subscribed

[@martinwolf2619]

Hi Arthur, which gimbal do you recommend for the Sony 6x00? Unfortunately the small Crane M is discontinued. Thanks and finger crossed for 100k

[@ensoniq2k]

Instant thumbs up for mounting two cameras on the same holder. Better than any comparison with lens change.

[@BestmobilesInUa]

Great video! But how it works on gimbals, what better? And in "handheld panning" IBIS looks much smoother. Thank you!

[@tomhsia4354]

IBIS compensates for sideways rolling motion, which OSS cannot fix.

[@akeentan8931]

Hi can you make a lens buying guide for sony a6500 or aps-c user that want to upgrade to full frame/ a7iii.? Thanks.

[@nrmrtable]

Thanks Arthur, that was really helpful. I also was wondering which system was doing a better job before a buy a sony camera.

[@DaphneIkingOfficial]

thank u so much for this review!

[@SimplyBrock]

Awesome video, this was something I was going to do myself!

[@junayedarefin623]

Need to know ... Who produces better colour at profile settings (s log2) ..?

[@jeremyspencer2974]

Great video I have canon fd lens and was wondering if it was worth the expense of upgrading my A7 to the A7ii or iii for video or just stick with my Sony kit 28-70 with oss. I think you have answered my question and saved me a lot of money. Thank you 🙏

[@Japhgar]

Great comparisson! could you test it in low light? or and telephoto? thats what I am most interested in :D

[@1stPhotokage]

What a great video very informative!!!

[@benmeadows]

This Video was really helpful , i was tempted to get a IBIS body but now will just by a gymbal

[@caseybachmeyer]

thanks man..this was really helpful

[@TravelMinds]

Great video!! If you use an oss lens with ibis makes a differences?

[@Lifefunmaker]

Useful video.. thank you

[@shateeka3584]

thanks for this video really helped!!!

[@JoEpunkt]

Thanks alot! That was helpful!

[@LawrenceLivingstone]

Really need tthis video, thank you!!

[@jww38]

Hi, Sony has just released a firmware update for A6000 that says it improves stability of the AF operation. Can u make a review/comparison on this new update? Thank you.

[@martee999]

Thanks for the video, very well done. As some others have suggested I would like to see the performance in handheld low light between the stabilization methods.(not for video use) Thanks again

[@africo9104]

Thanks for the videos. Please tell me if my Sonya77m2 has a Port for a battery pack. . At the bottom it says multi Micro USB terminal. Is that for charging the battery while out in the bush ? And if so , can I use any battery power bank or are some stronger then others. Mine is a Pineng power bank model ,PN999. Sorry but some of us don’t understand even the camera instruction book. Thanks.

[@stevenguzy1055]

Love your videos! My question. What about OSS lenses in conjunction with IBIS? You touched on it but didn't really give a result. Personally, for photography, any stabilization is helpful. I don't shoot video so I would like to know how OSS on say an a6000 compares to an OSS lens on the a6500 working in conjunction with IBIS.

[@left_kalog]

Nice video one more time! I have the Sony a6000 and you persuade me from your videos to buy a gimbal for steady videos. I like Weebill Lab from Zhiyun-Tech because of its size and ergonomics. Have you used it?

[@Emiliotakas]

When using IBIS have you put in the menu the length of the lens manually as the sigma is not native Sony lens? Also I believe you should compare the IBIS together with the OSS for video and not only for photos on the a6500 as a third option. But remember if you change the lens focal length on IBIS settings you will see a lot of difference.

[@PattyBlogs]

Hi Arthur, thank you for this video! I'm curious, I just upgraded to the Sony G master lens. As you know it doesn't have stabilization on the lens, nor the a6400 body. I use the setup mainly for video work. I'm curious, do you think I should upgrade to the a6500 to at least get some stabilization? Thanks so much for your videos!

[@mjb182]

Very informative. Very unbiased. Very helpful.

[@metaler4274]

I've got 6400, so this is really informative and helpful to me. Thx for your video.

[@landmine8206]

Me too

[@MotorcyclistDiaries]

Hi thanks for comparison review. Why footage from both cameras are so distorted while moving instead of being just shaky? Is that KZbin decoding process or smth else?

[@JohnRichardsonAuthor]

I have a Sony A6300 and I've found that for handheld slow panning video, having a steady shot lens is a definite benefit. That being said, if I wanted to use my A6300 for pro video, I would get a gimbal. My Sigma lenses work very well hand held in low light without IBIS or steady shot if I am cognizant of the shutter speed. Since the trio is very fast, I can shoot at a 30th of a second or better in most situations without exploding the ISO settings. The only camera I've used where in camera stabilization is really useful is my new GoPro 7. It works amazingly well when walking or running. Bottom line, for smooth motion video, get a gimbal or get a Go Pro 7.

[@TeslaxGauss]

Very nice comparison, actually first I've seen on the point. I think you should complete it with a second video in the situations you listed in the video. Low light and tele photo situations. I also have a question: in other brands (Nikon VR for example, Canon ...) OSS or whatever they call it. Does it work with same principle? Thanks for the video!

[@CVCC]

I would have guessed the ibis would have been better, but I was incorrect. thanks for doing this review. Question. do you notice any difference in image quality when comparing the 6000 vs 6400. is it worth the upgrade if you don't care about the 4k.

[@AmariahThompson]

you have good quality information thank you

[@speecher1959]

As a Canon Boy, still photographer, I've been very interested in this question. I hear the fuss about IBIS and covet it, and then meanwhile, get great shots without it.

[@cottonuke]

Thanks for the insight. Your conclusion of getting a gimbal for moving subjects for video hits the nail. This is so when I need to video my dog moving. I guess with a gimbal, it will be better for a 6400 for tracking my dog vs the a6500? on a gimbal. And for handheld video, the use of OSS like 10-18, 35mm should do fine? Basically sigma lens are out for handheld stationary video with slight movement.

[@bautistap8515]

I currently have sony a7 iii, and have a tamron lens without Oss. I am now looking for a smaller, but similar camera, the 6400, but it doesn't have ibis... Will i really notice it? Is there any other good camera in that segment worth noting?

[@jeremylavine]

I love this channel and have been looking for more a6400 vs. a6500 comparisons, but for someone trying to decide between these two models, a more helpful comparison would: 1. Test the same lenses on each body to isolate the effect of IBIS 2. Test the slowest shutter speed that results in a sharp handheld photo at various focal lengths (especially longer ones) - then calculate approximately how many stops of stabilization IBIS provides by taking log2 of the no-IBIS shutter duration over the IBIS shutter duration 3. Test handheld video while standing still 4. (Slightly more niche:) Test on a gimbal while walking. All reviewers are saying to just use a gimbal for video and you don't need IBIS, but gimbals have micro-jitters that IBIS helps with. There are a few videos testing these, but nothing super thorough, especially covering longer focal lengths. If you cover any of these points as an add-on review, that would be great! Would also be very interesting if you covered the claimed color science improvements in the a6400 especially for skin tones, both with AWB and with manual white balance. And of course direct comparison of the eye auto focus and object tracking auto focus modes for both models. I've mulled over renting an a6400 and making a video doing such comparisons with my a6500 myself, but I'm sure these review videos are a ton of work to get right.

[@florawirz7613]

Jeremy Lavine that would be perfect ! I hope he's gonna see your comment

[@boxbeatle]

Did you do the comparisons of the a6400 vs a6500? I was shopping for the a6400 when I impulsively purchased a new a6500 body at a really good price. Then I had regrets and purchased the a 6400 body. I’m shopping for a lens now. I hate to test a6500 since it is new, never used and I will have to sell one of these two cameras. I’m driving myself nuts deciding between these two. I need to take in as many good comparisons as I can.

[@gagandeepsinghmithoo]

Grt ..... looks like a sincere review.👍😊

[@Gonzalosebastianarie]

THANKS!!! Great content, very useful, help me decide. Now I`m waiting for the a6400 kit and a 50-16mm 1.8 oss lens. The two lenses with oss thanks to your information. Greatings from Argentina

[@utsmanzu0907]

for video, when im using sigma 16mm f1.4 with my A6500, if i turn of steadyshot/IBIS, the small jittery is killing me, and it's quite noticeable, if i turn on the IBIS, the small jitters become more quite less noticeable, especially when im trying to vlog with my hand, for the shake when im using to record video when im walking, it can be eliminated by using warp stabilizer in premiere pro, the result is quite smooth. as long as im not doing some sudden movement e.g running,sudden panning movement etc, otherwise it will result in "jelly" footage after using the warp function in premiere pro. personally, the IBIS and OSS in the sony mirrorless camera are geared toward still photography, but not quite for video. great example of IBIS implementation can be seen from panasonic mirrorless cameras (GH5, GX85, etc) their implementation of IBIS is quite superior than A6500, and really make video footage appear more smooth. IMHO

[@joaopauloferreira2585]

Curious for tudo a6400 review. I' m seeing gimbals... And i found the feiyu tech AK2000. Is it good? Take a look. Like always... Have fun!

[@sersol2]

Where do you got the double hand holder for two cams? I would like buy one

[@jezebabe]

Thanks for the video which was surprising and answered exactly the question I had in mind. Colour also looks better on 6400. Subscribed!

[@TC-we9vn]

Will you review the performance of Sony a6000 after filmware v3.21 update? Thanks in advance

[@streetlegends]

Great video. Im actually surprised. I did not know that OSS does such a good job.

[@bobbyprado6831]

Hello, I need some serious help so I don’t end up making a bad purchase decision. I’m stuck between the a6500 and the 6400. Obviously one having IBIS and one has upgraded specs with a flip up. I’m new to vlogging and my main focus is video but having a camera that takes photos just as good. I also need it future proof which I feel the a6400 is since it released just recently. Which should I get? The a6400 flip screen is almost worth it. Please help.

[@shubhambhargava3493]

Without gimbal. For sony a6300 which lens is better for video. Sigma or sony ?

[@trekearthproductions597]

Hi. I need you suggestion. I own a Sony a6400 and I am looking to purchase the sigma 56mm f1.4. Prime. The only issue is that the lens has no oss. I would love to shoot videos with that. I am so skeptical on the lens without oss, so I am thinkin to go in for Sony 50mm f1.8 with oss. What do I suggest. Will the sigma work well with the a6400 for video without oss?

[@livebraryninja2961]

Do you recommend a 6400 for vlogging?🙏

[@medallasipod]

@TechnologyMafia i am only missing the sigma 56 mm to complete the trio for my a6000 , but i am getting my a7III soon. What would you recommend me to get? the sigma 56mm or the Sony FE 50mm?

[@TVe200]

Defenitely FE 50. If you put Sigma 56 on a a7iii you must crop the sensor and get a 10mp picture as taken from a 84 mm lens.

[@youtuberistar]

Gracias x la prueba científica, muchas dudas despejadas de una forma muy bien explicada.

[@UncompressedWAVmusic]

I'm using a Sony A7 mach 1 so this video was helpful very well done Arthur.

[@lilymetcalfe97]

I am looking to buy my first mirrorless and I’m caught between 6400 and 6500. I feel the AF on 6400 will be worth it over the 6500. do you have any good gimbals that are compact? I plan to make travel videos and cinematic videos

[@user-tx4mo3lf8b]

What kind of gimbal do you recommend for $ 300?

[@Paul_anderson_creative]

Thanks... But yet again missed opportunity.. PLEASE test some photos at low light, maybe images if church interiors or similar. This aspect is VERY important to so many photographers. Thanks.

[@BMRTV]

Yeah, I'd like to see how slow you can go. IE: 1/2 second hand hold or 1 second? Chris Eyre Walker demonstrated the Oly EM1 II could hand hold well at 2 seconds and even some at 4 seconds.

[@ralfjansen9118]

Yes, ridiculous... IBIS and OS are, for photographers, important in the dark (long shutter speeds) and with long focal lengths. No advantage in bright sunshine and wide or standard lenses. As Herr said but has not shown.

[@lostinoc3528]

I agree, lots will spend a lot more for ibis, and this video made it seem literally 100% useless.

[@gigiilmilionario2]

What about in low light? You set a shorter shutter speed on the a6400.

[@mohsin_sait]

Have you updated to the new a6000 firmware?

[@mat0pat22]

Hellp,I'm so thank for your guidence. I saw before your video about sony a6400 you told it's good in price and quality but on this video you tell no stabiluzation on body is a problem?

[@mirrorlessny]

it depend how you use a6400, do you do handheld video/photo? then it can be a problem, if you use gimbal/tripod/OSS lenses then a6400 is great

[@Kim_Miller]

The Sony 70-200 f4 lens switches between two levels of OSS. Position 1 is for normal use where you hold the camera still. Level 2 is for panning. It would be interesting to see how these two systems work.

[@nickdoprzegladaniayt]

I love the skintones on a6500 on the rights side, why are they different than in the a6400 on the left? Different color science in the bodies, different lens or just different picture profile?

[@sess5206]

Regards from Stockholm, You are speaking in terms of Sony, but I'm going back and forth between a GH5 or a GH5S. The S model is far better for night filming but the GH5 has IBIS. With a Lumix 12-60 2.8, I can't help, after watching both your episodes on this, that maybe that lens would be enough since it has OIS. Any ideas?

[@tiagoalmeida653]

Very nice video. Thanks a lot. I'm choosing a6300 for my next camera

[@paganmin1214]

Tiago Almeida same with me.

[@BlackapinoTheTechGuy]

I'm debating on getting the 6100 or the GX85 which has IBIS, both with KIT Lenses.

[@saturns_eyes]

Hey i've been buying optical steady shot lenses for my A7iii. Does this one have built in stabilization? I want to be sure before i buy more lenses without the stabilization.

[@solidamber]

I have the nex 6. Have you ever used one?

[@brunofalcone9979]

Please redo the video using lower shutter speeds, it'd be really interesting to know! The idea is to find out how slow the shutter speed can be with both systems, and looking at different focal lengths. Stabilization becomes useful for shutter speeds below the reciprocal rule. People say that OSS is better at longer focal lengths, so you could try at 70, 100, 200, etc. Thanks for your videos, they are very good and unbiased!

[@OLuvin]

Really surprised you didn't show us the combo of IBIS + OSS to show the advantage of both working together...

[@nima16042]

this man...coming through with the SCIENCE. thank you!

[@lkfxfotografiavideo177]

Couldn't have said it better, only camera that is super stable because of IBIS is the Gh5 because sensor is a lot smaller, easier to stabilize, ibis is a better help on non stabilized lenses and on photography not video

[@loiszak7458]

So what would be better for handheld wildlife photography: the sony a70-350 on the 6400 or the 70-350 on the 6500??

[@hariennekat5951]

Go for A6600

[@v3ken637]

I’m having trouble with night shots it’s grainy in any setting I use... is it the lens ???

[@mirrorlessny]

photo video? there can be a lot of reasons for that! maybe you are recording at 120fps in the evening or maybe your ISO is going to the maximum

[@Nigelsarmo]

What is the name of your dual mount?

[@keithspillett5298]

Great video as always. Using a viltrox lV adaptor, Canon lens internal stabilisation works fine, even with the A6000.

[@zeropain9319]

Can you do a night test with ibis and without ibis for stills with a6600 vs a6400 and sigma lenses?

[@mirrorlessny]

ibis should help in low light when hand holding because you can choose slightly lower shutter speeds VS no ibis

[@cavs693]

I have an A6500 and what if I add an OSS lens?

[@pjdexter168]

What happens if you use an image stabilising lens with a body that also has built in stabilzation, for instance the Sony 24 -105 with Sony A7III, do you get even better results, or does one override the other?

[@ArthurR]

It works together. The combined effect is maybe 5% better than OSS or IBIS alone.

[@idhamhalim4715]

What lenses should I buy for landscape? 12mm rokinon or 16mm sigma?

[@scry1888]

sigma. sharp af. great colors too.