Optimizing Snake's Down Throw

[@somerandomdiamond7345]

*Top 10 legends who mysteriously disappeared*

[@matheusfernandesbecker8431]

84 Likes And No Reply.Wtf

[@YellowYoshi398]

It's weird how he spent such a long time cultivating this channel and his status as a personality in the community, then mysteriously disappeared from everywhere after the release of this frankly kind of anticlimactic video. (What I mean to say is that he gave no warning this would be the last we would ever see of him.) Even his last tweets are from around the time this video released. I genuinely wonder if he's OK.

[@significantpepper5274]

@@YellowYoshi398 It's kinda like the Terraria youtuber Yrimir. The last video he uploaded was him beating multiple Fishrons i think, and then, he never appeared again. It's about 3 years since that last video has been posted.

[@jamesonsockstoes5470]

@@significantpepper5274 He said why he left though. He has a girlfriend and college, and now he is working full time and doesn't have time

[@dragz888]

@@jamesonsockstoes5470 where'd he say that?

[@GimR]

This is amazing, I can't event imagine how long it took you to make it

[@octowave6791]

Lol how has no one seen this comment

[@Ekim2F94]

Seriously GimR himself is here so dope can’t wait to see more of his content as well

[@catanyag]

Several years of research, probably

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

He was hitting the lab. Again and again and again.

[@Gumby518]

It must be hard for game technicians like you guys to make videos when patches make some research obsolete.

[@MyHatDefinesMe]

I'm currently going through my subscribers list right now. As sad as it is to see people you used to watch "mysteriously dissappear", I think it's unrealistic to expect those people to continue making uploads for the rest of their lives. People change. People discover new interests in things and might lose interest in other things. It is a shame My Smash Corner never said goodbye, but wherever he is, whatever he's doing, I wish him the best of luck.

[@bashura_0019]

If I remember correctly, he said that he has work now and that he doesn't have time to make videos

[@MyHatDefinesMe]

@@bashura_0019 That's a shame. I think that unless you're Elon Musk (I read an article that says he works 120 hours a week. Yeah.), there's no job in the world that doesn't at least give you a few hours of downtime every day and/or at least one day off. Sounds more like he lost the passion to make these videos, which, like I already said, people change.

[@mysmashcorner]

Time stamps: 1:25 Guaranteed punishes 4:05 Side step setup 6:05 D-air setup 6:41 Reverse D-air setup 7:39 Dash back setup 9:27 Option select setup 12:02 Short hop setup 13:30 Forward roll setup 14:10 Dash attack setup 14:30 F-air setup 15:09 B-air setup Details on each character: docs.google.com/document/d/1ECrIeyJhw2yfdGMQ1sMrlOZDIASOB3OjICSS0aYv_II/edit?usp=sharing This video took me a long time to make. Sorry for the wait.

[@SolidVerse]

This was very much needed for me! Thank you for this!

[@Benado]

My Smash Corner Please don’t apologize for the lack of uploads! We will support you either way!

[@BadCandyStudios]

At around 8:28, you mention Isabelle’s roll being too short to be able to cover the roll back, but her rolls got increased distance in the latest patch - is it still true that you can’t cover it?

[@RandomPerson-fg1jf]

No need to apologise for the time between uploads, these videos take a huge amount of work and are much appreciated.

[@joseeduardo117]

I’d recommend to pin it, there are top comments that take priority ove these time stamps

[@UNSCMarine117]

Snake doesn't have a down throw what the hell are you talking about? Oh you mean snakes gently putting people to bed so they are well rested for the next day.

[@ButterStick64]

And deals 10% somehow

[@UNSCMarine117]

@@ButterStick64 Well that's just so they go into deep enough sleep so they don't wake up until the morning.

@@ButterStick64 he chokes them

[@OfficialBarbarose]

Me: *watches this video* Also me: *Always goes for hard read to stick C4 on*

[@Turoksar]

Perfection.

[@LeonOcto]

Love him or hate him He’s spitting straight facts

[@LeonOcto]

I hate that they move when I want that read

[@guitarmanatee8528]

I mean.......you can't get twitch clips if you don't go for twitch clips

[@ChristopherMoom]

This channel does take a long time to upload, but that doesn't matter with videos this detailed

[@lillotion2944]

Its you again

[@hurt4322]

Are you following me?

[@weichang9693]

@@hurt4322 no your following them

[@PedzRR]

The Justin Y of smash bros content

[@Azure1013]

You just have to be lucky he makes a video on your main.

[@leahthefluffiest8862]

kinda sad he's not uploading anymore, i learned more from this guy than anything else in over a year of trying to get into smash seriously during 4.

[@25_UNIVERSE]

Same here, I learned how to do the "Ding Dong" combo on this channel along with the Lucas footstools back in smash 4. Wish he'd give us an update on things :(

[@bashura_0019]

I first got into this channel ever since the Cloud guide video from smash 4

[@abel.6945]

Hey MSC, I don't know if you'll ever see this comment but I just want to know if you're alive and well. I don't know why but your channel has been on my mind a lot lately and just want to know for sure if you're okay for some closure. Here I am a rising 4th year in college and I remember how much of an impact your videos had on my progression as a competitive smash player as I got into the franchise in 2014 starting with Smash Wii U/3DS. I'm sure we all miss you and I'll try not to sound to sappy but I hope your are well - any sort of sign would be very assuring.

[@chienpo2945]

He's well. He doesn't go out of his way to play Smash but he'll play when his friends are. He has different priorities now - his athleticism has sky rocketed. Maybe one day he'll check back on these comments and appreciate the things people say.

[@yoshitaxfraudosaurus]

​@@chienpo2945source?

[@Greenomb]

My Smash Corner: Sna- *Crowd cheering*

[@cannedcereal]

Even if I'm not interested in smash anymore, it's still sad to see this channel dead :(. I've been watching since the 3ds days

[@icantevendothjsanymrke]

hope you're doing well. You made my childhood

[@chienpo2945]

He's well. He doesn't go out of his way to play Smash but he'll play when his friends are. He has different priorities now - his athleticism has sky rocketed. Maybe one day he'll check back on these comments and appreciate the things people say.

[@icantevendothjsanymrke]

@@chienpo2945 Oh wow really? Idk why I'm believing you but for some reason I do lol. If you really know him like that I'm glad he's doing well! Thanks for the info

[@jacobd322]

I don't own a switch yet I still watch these videos, since they have such interesting content

[@TheDarkVictini]

Same here

[@Humps69]

Join the club

[@TOFASJR]

When we needed him most he dissapered...

[@TheMari0123]

This man doesn't even say "make sure to like the video" Respect!

[@coldtum2278]

Late 2019 : MSC : " I found 3 infinite with IC "

[@IONProd]

2020*

[@xxl_frikandel3259]

Am i the only one who had no idea about Bowser Junior taking different amounts of damage depending on if you hit his head or car?

[@orizach01]

me too man like wtf this has been a thing since smash 4 and I had no idea

[@jimmykeffer7401]

@ori zach Yeah this was there in both games

[@kaptainsalty7335]

ori zach to be fair though,it was far less noticeable In smash 4, because if you where to do an attack that hit both sides of his body, it’s calculated as a headshot.meaning that even with this gimmick, bowser junior would die a lot earlier than other combatants

[@thecrimsoncreep]

In Smash 4, his body hurtbox took priority over the clown copter, making him take more damage than every other character. In this game, it was buffed so that the clown copter takes more priority, making him take less damage that literally everybody else overall.

[@kaptainsalty7335]

The Crimson Creep it did help, but admittedly he is still pretty down at low tier, what with Having one of one of the worse projectiles in the game and all

[@theprincessandthefrogg]

my smash corner, beefy smash doods, and izaw. these 3 are SOULY responsible for my competitive career.

[@doctordice2doctordice210]

Man imagine the sheer amount of videos he could’ve made on ultimate From the cool mecakoopa setups to hype megaman leaf cancel combos, there’s so much to talk about in this game

[@JackMeyHoffer562]

I hope this channel comes back to make more videos. ❤️

[@MrPomegranX]

Colonel... I see a dead man coming back... Nice to see you again man!

[@TheLuigidan]

C O L O N E L my friend

[@MrPomegranX]

bombkirby That word makes me want to die.

[@matoupetou]

You're the one that introduced me to the ssb4 competition long years ago and ssb competition. I don't know what happened in your life but I hope you're well and happy.

[@Juggleboy]

1:35 sad how meta knight, kirby, and puff, some of the 3 shortest characters, lie down large enough to get hit by jab.

[@riccardoaversa9299]

The are dummy thicc

[@zFunnyBoy_]

because kirby and puff cant get any more negative in this game

[@jamesdryden7803]

Just so everyone is aware, the amount of time opponents are forced to wait on the ground (and therefore the frame advantage that Snake has) is very exact. Here’s a full table of Snake’s frame advantages by the opponent’s percent BEFORE the DThrow. Again, certain things like staling will slightly affect this, as mentioned in the video: 0-6: -4 6-23: -3 24-40: -2 40-57: -1 58-74: 0 75-91: +1 92-108: +2 109-125: +3 126-142: +4 143-159: +5 160-999: +6 Keep in mind that the number on the left is the earliest WHOLE NUMBER where Snake’s frame advantage changes. For example, Snake is +5 when the opponent is at 159 but +6 at 160. However, Snake becomes +6 slightly earlier than 160, at around 159.3. I’m not sure what the exact decimal percentages are, but I hope this helps some people. Thanks as always for a great video!

[@Boi-oz9ml]

Guys, I’m sure that he’s got something big planned for us. He’s been gone for a whole year. There has to be something... Right...?

[@cgp1249]

*starts crying because msc still hasn't uploaded yet*

[@kdd8008]

Why do the best always goes away first ?

[@joshuawagner5286]

I've started to lose hope :(

[@elitecombine5373]

Hold me. ༼;´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽

[@Boi-oz9ml]

So uh… maybe my guess missed the mark?

[@bees3707]

AAAAAAAAAA YOURE BACK I LOVE YOUR CONTENT PLEASE DO MORE THANK YOU

[@cashbag]

Yes

[@DrGandW]

Alex Lockwood He never left

[@dakota6885]

These videos take a lot of effort and research

[@apocalypseap]

@@DrGandW ... he left

[@vinnylane892]

Why does he don’t post no more😭😭😭😭

[@austin3458]

Love to see you back

[@pokespritemaker3]

It's too bad he hasnt made a new video in a long time. Maybe smash doesn't interest him anymore? Hope he's doing okay though.

[@DavenciaBFH]

I mean, look at this quality content. Imagine gow much time it took to make this. No wonder he hasn't uploaded in a while XD

[@Rammy_Latin]

@@DavenciaBFH I dunno if it takes 2 years to make a video about Luigi's Back-Air but okay I guess...

[@DavenciaBFH]

@@Rammy_Latin It does. Think about it

[@greenpacman71]

@@DavenciaBFH No , he just kinda disappeared, no activity on his youtube twitter or discord since the upload of this video , almost 3 years

[@Rizzy_K]

@@DavenciaBFH 2 years? Nah man he probably just got bored

[@ShadteR]

yes because we needed more potential for snake

[@ariesomega2487]

How much pressure lies on your back when making these videos ? So many people me included expect high quality tutorials and you always deliver them. Thanks man!

[@mahdig96]

I miss you.

[@LucarioDXAuraStorm]

I miss this channel, man. 😔✌🏿

[@somerandomdiamond7345]

Same here dude :/

[@AndOnCommand]

I just got hit hit with an emotional and nostalgic feeling hearing your voice again :(

[@untitled_unmastered]

Ultimate’s meta would be far more advance if this channel was alive :,( I hope he’s doing ok though

[@babymaharaja7638]

same, I wonder what happened to him. he hasn't streamed on Twitch in six years.

[@aznracerboi1]

Hey man, hope everything is ok

[@vipermoon_]

HOW DID YOU PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO THIS. THIS DESERVES A BILLION VIEWS

[@cosmicthrillseekers]

goodnight sweet prince

[@neoblade6958]

I can't believe how much work you put into this video. Thank you so much

[@ZanyWitch7]

Ah I remember this channel. Actually I also remember a colleague of his who did video game retrospectives on her channel who too abruptly ceased making videos. Miss them both.

[@alula563]

When you're snake and your opponents at 160% *Z*

[@jen1447]

Glad your back! It’s nice seeing some of the KZbinrs I’m subscribed and haven’t uploaded in some time come back with fresh videos

[@EastSawiL]

Excellent vidéo! Very instructive as a Snake main ! Concerning the d-throw>Ftilt, I'll add up that there are some characters, like Ike for example, on whom it works starting 109% from both sides. Also there are a few characters (like Pichu) that you have to wait for different percentages, dépending on the side you're turned : 109% toward the right and 143% toward the left (tested it on 3.1.0 , probably the same on 4.0) Not sure why the game makes it work like this, but always good to know. Optimising snake at high level is so specific, I love it!

[@leofont6026]

The huge wait in between videos totally makes sense. The amount of testing going into these videos seems ridiculous like Jesus how was he supposed to know that d-throw into up tilt would work at 159 specifically without going into the lab for hours. Plus it would make sense that he likely has just one editor cause the time it takes in between videos totally correlates with how well this video is constructed like damn the quality is amazing. MSC if you're reading this comment while you're working on the next video thanks for making such quality content :) Edit: I bet that the fact the DLC characters are coming out so often makes it harder to work on these videos cause he tests it on all the cast.

[@sir3133]

Another possible reason why he doesn’t upload much is because there is very little tech in smash ultimate compared to every other game. With less things to talk about, there is less content to be made

[@leofont6026]

@@sir3133 well he did have his series with combos for every character to be fair

[@spork3858]

Yeah, most of his wii u era videos were about combos with specific characters He couldve done those in ultimate if he wanted to but he probably decided to not do those which is probably also one of the reasons why he isnt uploading much on ultimate.

[@torterrad5429]

this is a really in depth guide, can tell this must have took a while to make, nice work

[@desync4058]

Man... Come back you guys. I miss these videos

[@realfishu]

I remember watching his sm4sh videos when I was like 13 playing it on my 3ds, its crazy how short life can feel at times 💔

[@blueraven4625]

Me too man me too

[@thomashassan2909]

I thought this was crazy work and crazy content. That was before the "I compiled everything into this Google doc". This is godlike

[@yugureyt]

WHERED YA GO DUDE

[@steeltalongranduer2303]

When msc goes the extra mile with the google doc, this man dedicated! Love your vids!

[@blueheart9873]

We miss you

[@dorf7219]

my brain is not big enough for this, either way outstanding video

[@TheSebaguzman]

This channel was really awesome. Far away the best lab channel out there. The work in here is just incredible.

[@MarcoPolo-vr6wo]

Best smash channel :(

[@SleepyBrady]

Oh I miss this guy, please come back we miss you

[@Rey3518]

The pro tips and your voice are great

[@Mr0mart]

Great informative video, I think the Google doc will help me lots to come out with a setup you could add that I have been using that depending on the character could cover almost every option. Outstanding job guys

[@kentoryah]

Thanks for the data document man I really appreciate it

[@heinrichdubloon3139]

He kept you waiting, huh?

[@frostydragon6451]

I was just going on a marathon on your channel and you uploaded

[@Sambwich]

He atacc He protecc But more importantly He the best with smash tech

[@yesno4628]

I could sleep to this guy's voice. Nice video

[@moneyseeker8886]

Please come back

[@hokageofgaming]

HE LIVES

[@afia1052]

where is this legend i haven't seen him post for ages?!

[@garrettmarzo7858]

Yeah but what about getup attack? ...wait wrong channel

[@sonpham3438]

It beats all options

[@theguy1656]

*gimr would like to know your location*

[@glitchygoose]

Your voice is smoothing and relaxing. It's great for a longer tutorial

[@StickMaster500]

Just like Snake returning to Smash Ultimate, My Smash Corner has finally returned to making these high quality and detailed Smash videos

[@SK-df1iw]

As a side note, at 0%, you can do uthrow fh buffered dj dair for 40%. It's true but reacting to DI can be difficult. Uthrow utilt is an easier combo that does 30%. Amazing video!

[@ThatOneSawk]

come back king

[@F0XD1E]

amazing work here. This is more involved than most senior design projects.

[@uroy8371]

Your videos are always the most complete and detail for any character.

[@wefflez8001]

yo this is awesome! Thanks so much for compiling that whole google doc! Honestly the work you put into this is amazing and this is going to be a super helpful resource for me.

[@TheGamerKid204]

just a reminder that we miss you! hope youre okay and we love this channel!

[@icedmatcha8826]

Ikes getup lookin like melee marths grab range

[@SirWrexes]

SMASH CORNER VIDEO WOOOOOOOOOOO I don't even play Snake but I'm happy to see you upload. Gimme that tech knowledge ! ♥

[@Orchestrafanboy19]

Dude, I love your videos. I can’t even imagine how much time goes into them. Always so informative and includes many different possibilities on multiple characters and situations.

[@NIneDJcali]

I can't wait until Ally masters these option selects in his snake play.

[@_doop8257]

Omg the quality on the videos are crazy good. So professional.

[@jonpictogramjones4045]

I feel like my smash IQ increases by like 200 after every video I watch of yours

[@FocusedNeroXL27]

You are a king! Great video man. Hope to see more snake tech :)

[@zionfernandez1168]

Prob the best quality smash content on youtube right here, Keep up the good work!

[@Josh-md1bc]

Jesus Christ the attention to detail is incredible.. memorizing this will make anyone become the best snake player in the world.. as long as you know how to hard read with c4..

[@geodawg2975]

Duuude this is a great vid! I love the detail, I’ll definitely implement this into my Snake play, or as much as I can cram in my brain. Keep up the good work, the waits are worth it.

[@kirby_says_poyo]

We're gonna miss you

[@DiscoJeque]

And he was never heard from again

[@lament5516]

MSC: uploads Me: *clicks faster than a hummingbird flaps it's wings*

[@Juniverse0]

Not even ten seconds in and I'm already impressed by the editing.

[@luna_knight_6777]

Thank you man, I needed this help, I love your content and we miss you, you are a great creator, thank you.

[@jimmyoutlaw9384]

We miss you.

[@giz1006]

see you next time too 😢

[@impulse1228]

Well my smash corner is dead.

[@cam5009]

@My Smash Corner At 6:32 you say that the SH dair doesn't work on Falcon but the google document that you have in the description says it does work. Is that a typo or am I missing something? Also, I know that characters have different getup attacks. Does this affect any of the situations in the video? I am a very dedicated snake main so if you could please answer these questions it would mean a lot to me. Thanks!

[@Instafail]

Thank you for the amount of dedication and effort put into this whole thing. It really is quite astounding! Very well presented (as usual), and thanks an extra bunch for that sweeeet Google doc.

[@skunkooo]

was this video made in 3.1? because isabelle's roll actually rolls further in 4.0 i wanna make sure

[@Pezpop_]

It was made in 4.0 cause he shows hero in the footage

[@SeriousStriker]

Well it's mentioning Hero. So no.

[@TheAmberFang]

To be fair to puffy boy here, it's also possible that the information on Isabelle was compiled and recorded before 4.0, and the Hero footage was added later in production after the patch.

[@skunkooo]

i feel dumb lmao i totally didn't realize that, my bad 😂😂

[@kp2938]

On behalf of all Snake mains.....thank you.

[@shybaka2892]

I personally call Snake’s up tilt the “Jesus Kick” I call it that cause 10 years back in Brawl I up tilted my friend’s Pikachu at I believe 150% and he said “Snake sent Pikachu to heaven to meet Jesus.”

[@LeonOcto]

And also had weird hitbox 5 miles away from snake

[@killercore007]

The sour spot on his fair can also do that, at least in Ult. I call it spiking them upwards. Kills earlier than you think, 110-120% on average when it's considered fresh.

[@PKG315]

Can’t wait to watch the next guide. See you in 3 months!

[@bassboostedbadger154]

rip

[@wahbucket501]

Please do a video on Dial Storage with Shulk. I’d love you forever.

[@patricklewis9787]

And he was never heard from again. THE END

[@victorsandeen2694]

I love the detail, thank you for this.