World's Fastest Gaming Mouse - Razer 8000Hz

[@humpfzzz7962]

The only mouse reviewer who can actually aim

[@bwkim3332]

Rocket Jump Ninja: Hmmmmmm

[@cykablyat114]

Rocket jump is insane

[@zemouregalhd3331]

Boardzy is pretty solid

[@swami4442]

Boardzy

[@MrBaracu]

Not right.

[@Fanaticalight]

I had a Razer Viper 8 KHz at launch, and a lot of game engines didn't support the mouse whatsoever. Sometimes you're forced to play at 2000 HZ because there is noticeable stuttering or will feel like it's capped at a max speed no matter how fast you flick/turn your mouse. Of course, that improved in time. Though, games based on Valve engine can't really handle more than 2000 HZ well, which is why APEX seems to suffer even to this day. I feel like what could've been included in the video is the DPI tests that were conducted a couple weeks back and see the difference. I doubt it'll make any earth-shattering difference but it might be interesting to see the results. Otherwise, the mouse has been pretty good in my experience.

[@dysop]

first reply ez

[@GachaCafes]

thanks for sharing your experince with it bruv

[@itsyaboymaaaa]

I actually fixed my issues by disabling CAM, Asus and any other services in that area and I could use 8khz even in apex. I still prefer my G pro however for low sensitivity.

[@rinarosepetalco-tacoloy8044]

roblox

[@Jan_TRO]

It's not "Valve engine" though. It's called "Source Engine" Interestingly he said in his video that Apex had problems while CS:GO worked fine with it.

[@jokur7]

From PC benchmarks to competitive peripherals...this channel is doing it great. Thank you for these kinds of high quality videos, really appreciate all of the effort in making them.

[@truehiddenb]

This might just be me but I feel like the quality and conciseness of his videos have gotten better since like 7 months or so ago, that's awesome.

[@blitzkki]

Can you try making a video on the difference in input lag between custom keyboards and gaming keyboards? I love the content keep it up

[@ptb_dante]

yes please

[@optimumtech]

A lot harder to test, but I'll see what I can do!

[@gonorsilvet2581]

@@optimumtech Or razer optical switches vs a custom keyboard. Are they worth it?

[@ptb_dante]

@@optimumtech You should take a look at the Corsair K65 Minis input lag. According to RTings tests it's actually 0.1ms and even though their setup/all their other tests seem pretty reliable I don't fully trust them on that one. 0.1ms would be insane - please look into that.

[@ptb_dante]

@@gonorsilvet2581 Gonor it's never the switches that are the deciding factor there, I'm pretty sure.

[@CryptanalystDigitalSolutions]

2 years ago I bought a Razer 8k because of this video. 2 years later, its still my favorite mouse to date.

[@Chovyy-f25]

I love the effort into fully explaining the world of computer mice, respec+

[@Liv-rz4pv]

*mice

[@justnvmnoname]

When I had the mouse, having discord open would cause stutters in apex like you've showed in your footage. Closing discord literally made 8k work fine in apex even with fast flicks, which is really weird because 8k with discord open would be fine in other games. HW acceleration and overlay are off so I'm not really sure why discord makes 8k stutter, but yep, it did for me. Would be interested to see if anyone else can try closing discord and see if that'll fix the stuttering issue in apex and/or other games.

[@jihanramos]

discord maybe doesnt support 8k polling idk haha

[@KokoroKatsura]

just uninstall discord

[@jorib]

@@KokoroKatsura oh great solution

[@Rubedo0725]

Yeah my mouse is 1000hz but i cant use that in apex due to stutters and with discord open but 500hz and lower works

[@shadwxh]

Discord behaves weird with Apex. If you're playing on a lower resolution like 720p instead of 1080p, Discord will auto-minimize your game every single time unless you keep it open on your 2nd display or close to taskbar in windowed mode (not full-screen).

[@Abonnen]

I main the Viper 8K but mostly because I like the clicks a lot. I have it set to 4000 Hz as I noticed my CPU usage going up a lot when using 8000 Hz and I didnt want that.

[@JulianiLuckeey]

Why does your cpu goes up and by how much?

[@Abonnen]

@@JulianiLuckeey I have an i7 10700KF OC on 5.1GHz and it my CPU usage goes up by about 10 to 13 percent when I use the mouse compared to when I dont move my mouse. So idle on Desktop without moving my viper 8K on 8000 Hz my CPU usage is at 5% and when I move my mouse a lot it goes up to 18%. When I have my Viper set to 2000 Hz the CPU Usage is negligible.

[@JulianiLuckeey]

@@Abonnen Wow okey thats not good

[@vulf3087]

not much point in setting it to 8000 Hz anyway the polling rate becomes very unstable and does not hit 8000 Hz consistently goes from 10000 Hz and drops to below 100 better to set to 4000 where the polling rate is much more consistent with a variation of around 2000 Hz at least for me

[@Almighty_Flat_Earth]

"I main the viper" could someone tell what that means? Is that a typo or a phrase? English is not my first language.

[@2pumpedupforu]

This is one of the new channels that I am super excited to be watching. Really clean aesthetics, and really nice information provided. I hope to see you grow, and be able to do a lot more cool testing*

[@sushimshah2896]

You gotta watch his old case & build videos as well, sooo damn clean & short!!

[@TheProductCritiques]

[07:45] Thanks for the detailed review! It's interesting to see how the 8,000Hz polling rate and optical switches impact the gaming experience. I appreciate the slow-motion footage to demonstrate cursor consistency; that's something I hadn't considered before. [04:29] It's a bit puzzling that the polling rate for the switches is locked, and there's no discernible difference in click to display latency. I wonder why that is. [03:31] The optical switches do seem to offer a noticeable advantage in click latency, even though the polling rate doesn't affect them as expected. [00:41] The concept of 8,000Hz polling rate providing a more accurate and responsive mouse input is intriguing, especially when you break it down to samples per frame on a high-refresh-rate monitor. It's definitely a unique selling point. [05:52] I agree that while these technical improvements are impressive, the most critical factor in choosing a gaming mouse is still its shape and how comfortable it feels during extended gaming sessions. [07:16] Razer's dedication to pushing the envelope in gaming mouse technology is commendable, even if not every gamer may benefit from it. I'm curious to see where they take this tech in the future. Overall, your review provides valuable insights into the Razer Viper 8K. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

[@PhyNxFyre]

Bruh this is a gaming highlights channel disguised as a tech review channel, gonna need an EpiPen after seeing those nutty plays

[@Nekudon]

just received mine today, it's amazing so far! The 8khz isn't really the big reason why i bought it, just needed a new mouse cause i had the lancehead for 5 years now. Out of the box the clicks are crisp af and i quite like the shape of it, although just a bit a flat. The cable is also pretty nice, it's light and can barely feel it when im dragging around the mouse. A huge difference from the stiff cable of the lancehead.

[@THENOOBISYOU]

So this would be an enormous upgrade from a Dell mouse from 2008 that has a 500 pulling rate

[@theguycanfly98]

I know this is an older video so I don't know if you'll see this but I'd love an updated video with the DaV3 8k, Haste 2 8k, etc, the wireless 4k stuff and do all the comparisons to see whats improved and whats still lackluster since we do have new shapes and sensors.

[@Sparksman23]

I really like the Viper 8k so much so I was mad I had to get my 1st viper 8K rma after 4 months of ownership. While I was waiting on the replacement mouse I had to fall back to my logitech g403 and I could feel the difference right away. Thankfully only took Razer 8 days to send a replacement. I think its a great mouse to own and isn't too expensive but you have to take these things into consideration before you pull the trigger on getting this mouse. 1. Is it the right shape for your hand? 2. High refresh rate monitor- 240Hz minimum to even begin to tell/feel a difference with the 8000Hz polling rate 3. 8000Hz increases cpu usage. I have a Ryzen 9 3900X(12 core cpu) and while mouse is at 8000Hz polling rate cpu usage goes to 18%. The recommended hardware from Razer is Intel i5 8600K/AMD R5 3600 and Nvidia GTX 1080/AMD RX 5700 4. Have the mouse plugged in all by itself on a separate usb controller from the rest of your usb device(not plugged in right beside each other). Having other things plug in on the same usb controller while mouse is at 8000Hz causes issues. So for example I only have 3 usb devices connected to my pc. Viper 8K, Corsair K100(also at 8000Hz polling), Tascam Model 12. K100 and Viper 8k are connected to back of motherboard but both on different usb controllers while the Tascam Model 12 is plug into my 2080 Ti usb c port. Wish newer gpus still had usb c port on them. Only way this mouse could be better is if there was a wireless viper 8k.

[@LSC132]

Hey is it good for palm/palm-fingertip hybrid ( or should I say relaxed claw?) grip ? My hand size : 19.5 x 9 I mainly play fps games like csgo, valo and aaa titles

[@Luminov-sh2tp]

Its actually really good fpr games that req precise timings such as GD and OSU

[@camdenmiller7486]

0:39 love the rs audi steering wheel in the background for a gaming mouse.

[@jooorj_]

We're all gonna miss RocketJumpNinja, but I have a feeling that Optimum Tech is going to take the throne.

[@athmaid]

Zy still has his mouse finder tool that makes finding the right sized one easy though

[@harisjaved1379]

No! Zy is still my hero!

[@howiejcee]

Viper 8kHz polling works fine for me in all games tested thus far incl. Apex Legends, Warzone, Doom Eternal, CSGO, Overwatch, Fortnite, Cyberpunk2077, Far Cry 5, Tarkov, Red Dead Red. 2, & many more. You just need a relatively modern PC that is OPTIMIZED.

[@NathanMian]

Dude you are killing it lately... Amazing stuff!

[@bobrobrules]

You should do a mouse latency test with the different USB versions to see if they actually make a difference.

[@Sn4p_Fps]

ofc the 8k is on top but gpx latency is still number 1 and its wirless really surprised me

[@BravenTyler]

Update on my experience with the mouse, amazing mouse, though mostly struggling past 4khz polling rate in most games. Running 2khz is flawless, but as time goes on testing both Deathadder V3 Wired and Viper 8khz on updated fps games seeing as more and more are supporting higher polling. All I can say is, never going back to 1khz polling, it may be so minor but I definitely feel off or behind when engaging in gunfights. Keeping 2khz or moving up to 4khz, and yes I do believe it's more reacting that wireless 4khz but not enough for someone who has never experienced either wired or wireless higher polling

[@yournightmare5576]

"I think it's a little bit flat" I love to hear someone say that. I bought 3 mice Logitech super light, Glorious model O, and Razer Viper ultimate. I wanted to like the Razer because of its super low input lag around the board but I found when I hold it my where my thumb and pinky want to rest they make contact with my mouse pad unless I cramp my hand up excessively. Leaning towards the super light out of the 3

[@TheGryskiewicz]

"just hit your shots" - optimum 2021

[@MyRageIsOP]

(c) Literally everyone who knows how to hit their shots and get these stupid questions about buying new mouse as a solution to plebs' crooked hands in any shooter rather.

[@pfitz9346]

Kinda sad how companies now are being praised for actually genuinely creating an improved product like they say they did rather than just using some new marketing jargon to describe what is basically the exact same product with a 30 dollar price increase. Still awesome to see Razer ACTUALLY did what they said they did and genuinely invented an improved mouse sensor.

[@Chovyy-f25]

imagine using 8000hz for Tetris, that would amazing

[@KFPgod]

Tetris is played with keyboard 👀

[@Chovyy-f25]

@@KFPgod ohp there's this one Tetris via Chrome that we can play via mouse, which is kinda cheating because we can definitely click where we want the blocks to be on xD

[@spacecadet_01]

@@Chovyy-f25 what

[@doggy3994]

The carbon fibre RS steering wheel blending in well with the background there

[@Billy096]

Increasing the polling rate does also increase your cpu usage. 1k can be a bit harsh on slower PC.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

8k can be harsh on badass pc's also. Check out RJN's tets of this mouse. I wont buy the marketing nonsense or paid reviews like this one thanks to that video.

[@PsychoBenches]

Yeah but on new ryzen 7-9 or intel i7-i9 pc's it will not be noticeable at all. But yeah 2-6 core CPU's under 4GHz may cause some issues.

[@ShinsuZYX]

I just find listening to these videos quite relaxing. The voice is soothing.

[@LeJunny]

it’s 6am in California and just when I was about to go to sleep this was uploaded 🙄 I guess another 8min video won’t hurt

[@dimag4499]

Wish they'd push their build quality as much as they push the tech. DeathAdder Elite mouse survived 2 years before the rubber and coating started to peel off; the OG Viper mouse lasted about a year and a bit before I had the mid button none-or-double click. At least the 2016 BlackWidow keyboard survived 4 whole years before switches began to fail.

[@Melko_277]

This Channel has Quality over Quantity

[@Daveman_]

The clicks are always working at max polling rate no matter what you do (8000hz). Thats why you don’t see any differences between switching polling rates. I don't main the Viper 8k because the cable is not flexible enough, but in games that I can reach 300/400 fps, the difference is more than noticeable. No placebo xD. Btw, no stuttering for me in Apex at 8khz

[@zazabean23]

That doesn't make any sense, but i guess the cable comment is fine. The 8khz is a great mouse and works fine.

[@chestercopperpot3793]

"if you're not hitting your shots in the first place"... low blow man, low blow.

[@EFafnir]

I saw an Audi carbon fiber steering wheel there, I'd like to see what you got going there

[@tbfromsd]

I recently purchased the Viper 8K, before that I just used my Logitech MX 3 for work and gaming. I think the MX 3 is 125hz polling so the switch was instantly noticeable, it is way smoother on tracking shoots, glides smoothly and after a little getting used too, I have seen better results in games. If I could only have one mouse I would still use a professional mouse, because for work in Blender, Premiere, Lightroom, I find the heavier, more functional mouse to be much easier to work with, and since Razer Software bricked my iMac Pro, if I didn't have a dedicated gaming PC I wouldn't use it at all, word of caution to my Mac brethren.

[@billycollins4447]

just found this channel. already one of my favorite. the apex issue I was having with the 8k poll took me a minute to figure out. it will accept 2000. so far I love it. the switches were weird at first but I love them now.

[@itsbazza]

Would be cool to see a comparison of the Razer Viper and the Corsair Sabre RGB PRO at 8k hz.

[@levispose1007]

Was thinking the same

[@_Randwulf]

8K wireless with 3 different body shapes to choose from and Razer has it all... Thx as always... 👍😎

[@TurkeyOW]

They would get sued for having a monopoly. No point in buying any other mouse!

[@QoraxAudio]

I own this one. When set at 8kHz it becomes stuttering in certain games. Most games can't handle it, yet. I bought one at 45 bucks, great value for the money IMO. Especially when comparing it to my 130 bucks Logitech G900.

[@QoraxAudio]

Oh btw, I fixed the double clicking of the G900 by putting some deoxit contact cleaner onto the microswitches. Clicking feel has become less satisfying because of it though.

[@feeblemind]

i dont see a wireless 8k for a long time. I think there's lot of tech limits that prevent going past 1k atm and it'll probably be awhile before we see 8k. I personally think weight is more of a factor in your ability to aim so the fact this thing is 71 grams still is a deal breaker. I actually really loved the viper ultimate shape ( more than my superlight for sure ) but its too heavy and going from a lighter mouse to it you can feel the weight and it throws you off for awhile. If razer can get this down to like 40-50 grams with this tech id buy it instantly.

[@caml1720]

that bubbling sound on the hertz graphic was great lol

[@tofu.delivery.]

Here's to hoping that this sets a trend for other companies to start releasing 8k mice, and for 8k to become standardized. Being an early adopter of any tech sucks due to the lack of support, but if more mice start to do this then I'll gladly jump on.

[@zazabean23]

lack of support? almost every single game works just fine. It has nothing to do with the games.... 99% of people don't understand that the stuttering is a users fault. You should be assigning cores to each usb hub so A core/multiple cores don't get overloaded.

[@zagaraone8653]

We add it up. Fast Display 240/360 HZ or more = Less input Lag More FPS = Less Input Lag Faster Mice/HZ = Less Input Lag. It all adds up in the end. So Yes.. Let's go 8000HZ Mices. :)

[@michaelthompson9798]

You notice the same marketing pics in monitors when they show 60 to 120 hz …. 120 to 144mhz, 144 to 240mhz etc…. We’re getting diminishing returns now even thou we’re getting some minute improvement. Great review Ali. Great job 🥰👍🏆

[@re4796]

False.

[@TParkcasual]

I own the 8k Viper, it is a quick accurate mouse with premium sensor. But tbh I really couldn't tell that much of an notable difference during Fps gaming compared to other top tier mice with standard 1k polling rate like the Glorious Model-O Wireless, & the Gpro SuperlightX that's currently my Main. And like he said it will all come down to the size & shape of the mouse & how well, and good feels in your hand. Would be really cool if somehow you could retro fit the 8K sensor from the Viper into the shell of the SuperlightX.

[@xaytana]

On the sensor latency graph, it looks like the results are following a curve of exponential decay, and it flattens pretty quickly. The only potential benefit of ultra-high polling rates is the frame refresh argument, but that only argues error potential and not actual error. Realistically, 8KHz polling isn't even needed, 2KHz polling would arguably be sufficient enough for 240Hz panels, I'd even argue that we should instead have a more varied polling rate so that we can match a panel at 10:1; as this would consistently give ten samples per frame no matter what your refresh rate is, which in turn should actually be far more consistent with potential error being removed, as you're scaling polling to panel refresh. Plus, realistically, who is even actually pushing for panels above 240Hz outside of the upper echelon of esports; sure the change from 60 to 120 is massive, 120 to 144 is noticeable, so on and so forth, but the further you increase refresh rates the harder they are to notice, 360 will probably be absolute peak for people of the upmost highest visual fitness, _if even they can notice the change from 240 to 360 without placebo,_ else everything becomes more marketing wank. Which leads me to believe that ultra-high polling rates like 8KHz is also marketing wank, for reasons that should become fairly obvious with some logical thought; couple this with the fact that the switches are locked to 1KHz and the product nearly invalidates itself, why have cursor smoothness if you're returning potential error into button input, it's a decision that doesn't make sense if they believed in the ultra-high polling rate's practicality, and thus leads me to believe that it's all marketing.

[@snizer11]

Agree. The shape and the comfort of using the mouse is most contributor in gaming performance.

[@piotrkozowski4230]

5:15 & League of Legends, I had to use 1000hz coz of the huge fps drops on 8k hz

[@Chuha97]

I heard it struggled with 1000hz too few years ago

[@thereeceter]

Got 500k subs nice!!!

[@donaldlee1427]

i own it! To me it feels smoother, but for alot of games you have to play on 4khz. The support for 8khz isnt out there yet so its a bummer. I love love the mouse, but do wish they made a XL version of the mouse because it would fit my hand a bit better.

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

Have you done a blind test? Often times the brain tricks itself, since you’re expecting it to be smoother.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

@@Definitely_Melnyx 100% placebo. He wants it to be because he paid for it. RJN proved this a long while back.

[@zazabean23]

Propaganda. It works fine for all games. It's your fault

[@donaldlee1427]

@@crisnmaryfam7344 naw man. Do you own one for yourself?

[@donaldlee1427]

@@Definitely_Melnyx no i have it but i own several mice and it really felt smoother tracking in the video games i play

[@callmecheese4696]

To be honest, I dont really understand what u talking about because it is just too deep for me but good work:)

[@Ne0tax]

the mouse click is always the same speed because the usb interface always works with the same hz, the hz that can be changed only affect the sensor.

[@zazabean23]

brain dead moment.

[@lilawodjmqaowdawd5787]

Is the 8 for the hz or the months it'll last till it stops working?

[@qualitynonsense5309]

i bought it to leave zoom calls faster it’s worth every cent

[@wishsent]

nearly 500k, congrats

[@therick8417]

Now that you have the equipment, could you test input lag when going through USB docks? I run.a KVM-like setup with a macbook and gaming PC, through hubs

[@nex3877]

Battle(non)sense made a video about this awhile back if your interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJPYZKyJp7eBjMU

[@rustler08]

If you care about input lag, don't use a hub

[@rhod53]

can't wait for this mouse to be seen as a normal mouse in the future

[@Chr1s747]

Have had this product since February. I switched from a Cooler Master MM711 to this and ultimately, I felt the slight difference in how reactive it can be when running the 8khz polling rate. Also, the optical switches against mechanical are a great improvement because I did have that bounce trouble many times with the MM711. Not only does Apex act up with the 8khz, Fortnite has acted up on my end as well with the frame rate stutters along with Master Chief Collection and Gears 5 so with those titles, I dumb down to 2khz. But Call of Duty, Battlefield, Bullet Storm, Horizon Zero Dawn work fluid. So I do agree that it can still be about engine limitations.

[@zazabean23]

It has nothing to do with engine limitations. Only people who don't understand what engines these games run would say that. It's 100% a users fault, and lack of understanding. If all of your cores are maxed out, and the 8khz is constantly overloading them it will cause stuttering. Optimize your OS, or go back to console my guy.

[@Chr1s747]

@@zazabean23 Thank you for informing me but don't be an ass about it. I simply agreed that it may be engine limitations since the person who made the video considers it being possible engine limitations at around the 5:27 mark so if you can't comprehend why I said that, then maybe you should actually watch what you're commenting under instead of just coming out the gates and attacking people over it.

[@tweeze123]

Nobody ever mentions it but 8000hz increases motion clarity in240hz panels, especially dyac.

[@qazserNOS]

But does it increase CPU load and thus affect game smoothness in CPU limited situations?

[@MarketingWithLamar]

I just picked this up for $37 at my local Best buy on Cyber Monday. For that price it's a no brainer! It's a nice addition to my Logitech G pro wireless.

[@TedBackus]

the differences in top level mice' polling rate is about as important to gaming as the type of webcam you have

[@brianpowell2298]

Yea we’re gonna need an explanation for that Audi steering wheel please.

[@Hyper1555]

Damn, an Audi RS! He is a crazy wild man!

[@Dr_Petey_Wheatstraw]

I might be wrong, but I think the polling rate has to do with the sensor position while a click event sends a CPU interrupt. So that could be why there is no difference between the polling rates tested and the click latency.

[@snowdawn]

Great video man as ways. I am sticking to my Razer Viper Mini with Razer Bungee V2 and Logitech G305 wireless.

[@MotoCat91]

Would love to see you compare some MMO grid mice in detail.. the market for them isn't huge but I know some people, myself included who just can't live without one. In desktop mode I use the buttons for navigation macros like switching tabs, refreshing, forward/back and media controls.. and games that have number row based weapon/tool switching it's a godsend. Right now the only real options for 12 button grids are: Razer Naga (in all it's versions, the original and most popular option) Corsair Scimitar (friend of mine says it's miles ahead of his Naga but I've never used one) Logitech G600 Redragon M901/908/913 And my current personal favourite: Utechsmart Venus/Venus Pro (I have the pro and while it's not perfect, the software and wireless responsiveness are better than any Razer mouse I've used before) There is also the Mad Catz MMO TE but the grid is only 11 buttons with 3/5/4 in each row with a weird alignment. For wireless there is only the Naga Epic, Redragon M913 and Utechsmart Venus Pro..

[@Swatmat]

i think you have to a god tier level player to have this mouse make any difference to you, for the average player its not worth it

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

Even then, most pros sway towards the GPro/GPro Superlight and various other well made wireless options - few still stick w/ wired options. The 8k is an awesome step forward in sensor polling but personally I'd wait till other manufacturers start implementing anything above 1k.

[@veduci22]

I doubt that even pro players could notice the difference between 2000hz and 8000hz in blind test...

[@robertcamargo9289]

@@xXDarthBagginsXx Aceu and a ton of pros legit used the finalmouse cape town @ 500hz since launch and only switched cus the new one came out

[@benm269]

@@robertcamargo9289 aceu uses the starlight-12 now iirc, and you can change the cape town to 1k hz with DM1 Pro S drivers

[@AishiMTA]

It's like buying a 360hz monitor. What's the point if you're not a cracked esports player?

[@mw2k6]

Razer 8k always works on 8khz. When you change polling rate on this mouse it only affects the sensor, not buttons

[@JTL1776]

Can't wait for the carbon fiber edition. Weight reduction. Plus wireless. Of this mouse he epic.

[@vilomarkitong3107]

Personally I have the Viper Mini (which I loved and used for more than 2 years now) Then bought the Viper Ultimate, from small mouse to regular it's a major adjustment but still the same feel. But man when I got this Viper 8kHz I can definitely feel that smooth fast phased movement. Btw I'm always using 6500 - 8000 DPI setting on my mouse/s

[@jayireland561]

I got one about six months ago along with a 270hz panel. It's nice. I run it @4000hz because 8000hz caused issues in certain games. I hear your gripe about the shape. I think that if it were a bit taller it would feel better in the hand too.

[@zazabean23]

Propaganda, that's your fault not the mouse, or the games.

[@TriflingToad]

​@@zazabean23 what?

[@PsychoBenches]

What issues did it cause in what games? I'm curious because I have the same mouse but haven't had issues yet.

[@teyyo9745]

Tf2 hates the 8000hz polling rate but lowering it to 4000 makes the issue go away

[@not_apple1]

is it better than the mini

[@billtheking5917]

optical switches are good but for some games double clicking is an realy big advantage

[@davidblomberg6952]

I would love to see keyboard speed comparison tests especially the Corsair k100 vs apex pro omnipoint switchs

[@antixiety]

Never imagined optimum saying sus lmfao 😂😂

[@江辰-h3z]

Ur sus 😳

[@vincentL.7]

@@江辰-h3z Why? Kinda sus

[@antixiety]

@@江辰-h3z i see you are a man of culture, i see that gura pfp

[@江辰-h3z]

@@antixiety 😏

[@江辰-h3z]

@@vincentL.7 cause 🥵

[@chasp_0784]

I wish there was somewhere to go to play with various mice to get the hand feel. Lot of dollarydoos to spend on muh latency

[@Zetraxes]

What I learned from this video is actually that the best thing about the mouse is the optical switches

[@Peter-gb4ey]

I have the Viper 8Khz, it had a noticeable difference in latency, but the shape was wrong for me. I'm a claw finger tip hybrid with 20 x 10 hands. I'm maining the Zy's Rail, that one is too small for me, but I do like the shape. I've had the Model O, but that mouse stopped working after 2 yrs at the same time as my friend, planned obsolescence or cheaply made.

[@zazabean23]

Thank you for that honesty. These comments must not be real LMFAO. Like the amount of retards on here is unbelievable...

[@SherryDC]

I play mostly Overwatch at 240hz and yes the 8k feels slightly smoother, is it worth the upgrade? Honestly, if you have the money and want to reduce input lag as much as possible than yeah, you already have a decent mouse and you aren't sure if it's worth it? Skip that one.

[@zazabean23]

cap propaganda

[@Aquamaui.mp4]

Now we need 8000Hz Monitors 🌝

[@TomBombFR]

I have the base Razer Viper (not the 8K model) and it's already, by far, my favourite mouse (I've been through R.A.T mice by Madcatz, some Corsair mice, some Steelseries mice and also own a Glorious model O). Fits perfectly in my hand, the weight is just right, and when I changed from the Steelseries to this one I litterally could see my K/D ratio improve overnight as the mouse really fits me a lot better. The 8K model actually isn't much more expensive that the base model, so it sounds like a good choice to me!

[@shootinbruin3614]

4:14 regarding the lack of change in click latency, Battle(non)sense tested this and apparently the Razer always sends click data at max polling rate. Polling rate settings only affect sensor data: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6jJkHloi8eifLM

[@TheSilverFX]

Unfortunately I bought the Viper 8Khz the week it got released. What I realized is that the 8KHz is pretty much pointless, and even caused me to have stutters in Valorant, so I had to drop the poling rate to 4Khz or 2Khz (which is already faster than the other mice on the market). However, what must be pointed out about this Viper are these: - It uses the Gen 2 optical switches from Razer (rather than first gen found in the first Viper) - It has PTFE feet (unlike the OG) - It has the Focus+ sensor (unlike the 5G they sported for a long time). So with that said, if you liked the Viper in the first place, but would have wished for PTFE feet and Focus+ sensor, this is the one to choose. Anyways, I don't think the OG is still sold nowadays.

[@SaikumarSama]

turn on raw input buffer and try changing to 4k to 8k fixes it

[@g1zmo85]

You’re next level with the analysis, keep up the good work

[@Derelict_Doug]

i switched to 3200 dpi to saturate my new 4000Hz polling. not sure if high dpi with low sens (relatively, but not as much as others: im 7.41 cm/360) will do that. the internet is just getting more and more people recalling what they heard secondhand than facts. if it gives me placebo i am still happy though haha.

[@aessniper]

the polling rate for the clicks are locked to 8k, another yt channel measured with a oscilloscope, cheers from argentina

[@seancasgamer]

This is a solid mouse. I like the Razer Viper shape and the fact that the Vipers are a true ambidextrous mouse (I'm left-handed) is a big plus - something like the Model O or the Logitech Superlight don't work for me because there are no side mouse buttons on the right side of the body. I am one of those weirdos that also likes cabled peripherals - I have a wired mouse, headset, and even my Bluetooth keyboard stays plugged in because I just hate having to charge things, so the Viper 8K is great. Then you toss in the fact that it's about 60% cheaper the Viper Ultimate and you have a winner. And honestly, I thought the "smoother" stuff would be marketing fluff, but you can legitimately feel the difference when you're using it all day every day and then switch to a regular 500Hz or 1000Hz mouse - it feels slower and a bit jankier on the screen.

[@mesaber86]

Will you do latency test of keyboards? Like a roundup of some cheap/expensive wired/wireless ones. Would be good content imo.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

My 604 1000 polling rate already causes problems as it uses too much CPU. Can't imagine 8000Hz.

[@Boemtie]

i main the viper ultimate and send back the 8k. Wireless is noticable, 8k to me was not.

[@FabienPascal]

I personally use the Viper Ultimate because I prefer to have a wireless mouse, plus my brain (and my 100Hz panel) aren’t fast enough to take advantage of the 8,000 Hz pulling rate… But, I love the fact the Viper is truly ambidextrous because I am left handed…

[@l0l287]

been using g502 still using 502 will continue using 502 best mouse imo.

[@lslBASICS]

I got around the lag and stuttering in apex by disabling: v-sync, anti-aliasing, ambient occlusion. And setting texture filtering to bilinear.

[@zazabean23]

There's no lag or stuttering due to the razer 8k. If there's any issues it's user error. The razer 8k could be making the GAMES stuttering more visible because Apex is a shit show of a game engine wise.

[@akrodemonas]

Great video & work as always!

[@KZ_drift]

YO so close to 500k cant wait

[@her8066]

I use the viper 8k, and I can feel a very big difference when compared to other mice or even lowering the polling rate. It might be because I use high sensitivity and I play extremely fast paced, but the difference is large enough to where I hate using other mice.

[@sapitron]

what is your current dpi setting for shooters?

[@her8066]

@@sapitron 10k with 4khz polling rate because 8khz breaks my pc

[@rasmusbonn]

Discord and other apps are interfering with the mouse, because certain apps track mouse movement by default.

[@MaxNakfoor]

Hey I know this is an old video but it’s been proven that 3000dpi greatly reduces input lag over 800dpi (with game sensitivity lowered for equivalent tracking speed). Would really like to see 8k vs 1k tested at higher polling rate to see if the gap increases.