Watercooled RTX 4090 - MSI Suprim Liquid X

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Hooked up to a 240mm radiator, this should be one of the coolest RTX 4090s. Here's what I think of the MSI Suprim Liquid X.
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[@C7SUS2]

Watching this like I'm ever gonna afford it

[@bongkem2723]

in 3 years it's gonna be $700 max

[@alksdng97834y]

give it 7-10 years bro

[@taylorfrancom8784]

Watching this like the scalpers are ever going to stop buying all of them

[@aohjii]

@@alksdng97834y i might be dead by then who knows i dont got that kind of time

[@Ashik7525]

watching this like it's mine

[@Parmenedes]

Nice review. That's the model I like the most. It's worth noting that having two bios's isn't just about having one be "better" in some way or even just different from the other one. It's nice to have two bios's because if something goes wrong with one of them, your card isn't bricked, and you can use the other one to fix/flash the other one.

[@thedeleted117]

bioses*

[@ToriTangents]

Biosi?

[@kamehameha38]

Symbiosis

[@mikeoes1]

*Bice (Mouse/Mice!?) :)

[@RobbyBabes]

Biosees

[@bigdog3628]

one small gripe, I may have misunderstood you, but this was NOT the first aio gpu to come from MSI. They did a very similar looking variant for the gtx 1080 and If wrong on that then it was definately one of the 10 series gpu's at any rate. True it was a partnership with corsair, but I feel it should count. edit: Just looked it up and the name was the GeForce GTX 1080 SEA HAWK X. It has both the corsair and MSI logo on it.

[@ipodguy9]

I thought the same thing

[@Veyron5421]

Hope it doesn't get clogged up like the msi 240R aio

[@deepmarcel6773]

How heavy is the card

[@still_waiting_for_dad4184]

are those 140 or 120mm fans on the aio

[@benjaminle4841]

Would this fit in the FormD T1 with an air cooler for the CPU?

[@wenhelxing]

Realistically, this card is one of the few 4090s that fits an ITX format. This generation of cards are just too big

[@n00buo]

Call it "developed for tards w money"

[@yurilopes420]

I don't even get why they're so fucking big, the pcb is the same size..

[@kli.4162]

@@yurilopes420 They draw much more power that needs to be dissipated. The cooling solutions are (mainly) why these cards are so thick.

[@zenova9926]

@@yurilopes420 COOLING

[@octoslut]

@@yurilopes420 Nvidia first intended to make 4000 on Samsung inferior 7/8nm node with target of 600w, then they got tsmc bidding and changed plans. they again tried 600 w on tsmc's node but that failed. so they made over-engieered coolers

[@mattspeed]

They definitely should have been put 90 degrees adapters on tubes exiting from the card

[@sopcannon]

cable mod is working on it apparently

[@tomppeli.]

@@sopcannon Note: tubes I haven't heard of replacing AIO tubes, but cablemod is definitely working on the 90° 16-pin cable adapter

[@EarthIsFlat456]

Yes the positioning of the tubes exiting from the card is just awkward if you mount it horizontally, vertically though it works just fine.

[@OscyJack-]

Generally 90 degrees is bad for fluid flow. So that's generally why it's not done. It taxes the pump and reduces flow rate, leading to less reliable operation and worsened cooling

[@bigturkey1]

i mounted the rad to the front of my case blowing out and then keep my side panel off

[@matty6804]

MSI used to have AIO cooled GPU, called SeaHawk series

[@FaridRudiansyah]

Yes, i think this is their first time under Suprim series.

[@bobhob35]

They made a RTX 3080 which is still an excellent second hand option even today

[@Shurii]

i feel like we are going back to the era of liquid cooled gpu solutions for power hungry cards

[@boah-ist65]

Yes

[@boah-ist65]

But the 4090 fe got good thermals 62c at 38 dba

[@DTunezOfficial]

There's literally 1 card water cooled out of all of em

[@cipher.u.justice]

standardizing gpu AIOs is inevitable, they cannot scale with air to the demands of the increases in power each gen, the 4090 heatsink is as big as you can reasonably make

[@DanielGonzalez-wn6xo]

@@DTunezOfficial 2 watch the video

[@polnapanda4934]

bro if i spend 1700$ on gpu I ain't saving money on custom water cooling

[@rdmz135]

but like he said this is better for performance

[@sqbronco1]

true

[@Equinox4O7]

This card is just gorgeous. I really don't like the design of the majority of the partner cards for the 4090 and even Nvidia's isn't that good. This one stands out to me though and I think it looks sick.

[@shiraz1736]

No wonder evga bailed.

[@Swapnil638]

An in-case thermal comparison would be nice

[@CastIronEric]

MSI is great if you need warranty coverage for the pump

[@pcmAv3n]

Waterforce is a total crap-fest. Quality is horrible, people have reported scratches and such on new products, as well as very poor leak detection rendering the card unable to do anything. Anyhow, the cooling performance for the gpu on the MSI card is probably better because the aio is dedicated just to the gpu, whilst other components are air cooled. Also the SUPRIM series is the highest quality PCB and best looking (imo) on the market. Great review!

[@danielpuljic8444]

The performance potential on this must be INSANE Price tag too.

[@boah-ist65]

Ye it pretty good

[@cipher.u.justice]

He benched it, it performs pretty much the exact same as FE even with an OC. The benefits are slightly better fitting depending on the case, lower temp, lower noise, etc

[@TerraWare]

It seems like overclocking is kind of pointless with these cards to begin with because of the voltage locks. You're talking about 5% performance increase?

[@EarthIsFlat456]

Insane??? Depends on what you're comparing it to. If you're comparing it to other 4090s then no the differences across all of them are pretty small and you certainly won't notice those while playing. It's the cooling, noise level and size that matter.

[@octoslut]

rtx 3000 and rtx 4000 don't oc properly as they are running near max limits already. not much headroom

[@Mildly_Amused]

Typically with the last couple generation MSI cards that have the BIOS switch, the only difference between the game/OC profile and the silent profile is the fan speeds, not the power limits or GPU clocks.

[@basibazouk]

I am used 1080 Sea Hawk X pretty some time and I think MSI's hybrid cards like this pretty nice!

[@jondonnelly3]

This would work well in the 011 case GPU side mounted exhaust. CPU top exhaust. Intakes bottom and front. No hot air in case then.

[@Ma6ku6ta6]

Can you still mount this if you're already using an AIO for your CPU? I'm running my setup in a Corsair Vengeance 780T case and may upgrade next year

[@Sphynx719]

8-10 C coller and +30~mhz by water cooling? I'd rather do a coper mod. Thx for the vid!!!

[@RockLeeMC]

the prices i'm seeing for the 4090's are fricken insane. i used to love building pc's, but greed has killed all my passion for it.

[@yosemitesam9576]

Or just… buy used lmao

[@kidzor16]

I know i ll probably get a lot of hate but..... it s actually worth it... playing 150+ fps on 4k is no small feat.

[@Drushkaa]

@@kidzor16 that part. Add a 77 inch 120hz 4k OLED display you're ballin

[@jggg31]

I would love to see the review of the Gigabyte 4090 360 AIO version and see how it compares to this MSI 4090 AIO GPU. Please.

[@puciohenzap891]

From what I'm seeing the 360 rad does nothing? I have the 360 Aorus.

[@WilliamCammish]

What's your thoughts on something like the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO????

[@corentinrobin3513]

Looks like MSI watched your video, and took notes on the "good value for what you get" part. They bumped up the sale price on their own website by 185$. God forbid gamers have access to good value on GPUs these days. Edit: looks like they "unlaunched" their price hike after backlash...

[@liejah2690]

Scammers on Amazon are mass buying 4090 cards and selling them anywhere from $2,300 to $3,500. Which sucks but you can find some people on eBay selling them for cheaper.

[@Mildly_Amused]

I'd avoid the scalpers on eBay also.

[@JonDaviz]

Excited to see the build with the new ITX case 👀

[@leonard6381]

We love your videos, Optimum

[@mahin1926]

MSI have done AIO GPUs before. SeaHawk series.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

in Europe these are 2600 Euro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GodSEndOMG]

Good to keep you warm in the winter.

[@isaacomplex]

Hey Ali, thanks for mentioning the real world width of this card. This is literally the only 4090 that will fit in the Phanteks Shift XT that I intend to build in (> 3 slot, 240mm rad). Seeing as you are the only person I know of that has both the mentioned card and case, do you happen to have tried fitting the card in the Shift XT and does the width clear the top or do the tubes actually make it incompatible? Thank you.

[@skyserf]

Can’t wait until the 5090s come out so the 4090s will be in stock.

[@00Cubic]

in stock at msrp

[@chriswho12345]

500W space heater but in 240mm lmao

[@fishhh009]

the built that you promise it's gone case.

[@wile123456]

So all the 600W bioses got cancelled last second lol

[@alireza0019]

you put so much effort in your videos love your work you deserve more

[@Ghost-hs6qq]

The price is not bad compared to founders edition card.

[@HoveKB]

I would buy this just so it doesn’t take up 3 slots 😂😂😂

[@-zerocool-]

ASUS need to some out with an AIO if the rest of the competition does it. 360mm fine by me.

[@EatonZ26]

Pls compare this vs Gigabyte 4090 AIO

[@juselesss]

Hola, es muy importante tener en cuenta el calor extra de la Foundation que genera estando dentro de una caja, por muy refrigerada que este la caja, siempre sera mejor la que expulsa directamente el aire caliente hacia afuera

[@luck0p]

1800 dollar mark .. me seing it for 3500

[@Adulto357]

I've seen these for around 1200 usd surprisingly. All other 4090s are around 2k.

[@Jan-kh6co]

Yeah also in Germany these are cheaper than all other 4090s. Weird considering this one already has a cooling solution with it.

[@adpraeter9403]

There is the other aio available, the aorus one, i've never seen it in the US though, it's a completely paper launch, it's impossible to get anything online

[@Lokisblade2]

if it wasent SSSoooo expensive i would upgrade my 1080ti seahawk

[@LydellByrd]

Been waiting for 4090 LC reviews. Can't wait to compare this to Asus & Gigabyte LC

[@KJDatv]

I have it and let me say it is absolutely worth it. I can max out any game and easily run it at 120 plus fps. If you overclocked it you can max out anything at 240 fps and stay under 42 degrees celsius

[@bingbong6988]

still loving it? i’m trying to decide which 4090 to get, and would like to liquid cool it in a similar fashion to my cpu without doing a crazy custom loop, and this seems like the way to go

[@dandanthesaxoman]

I have this card with the rad mounted as top exhaust on my 011 and one thing I have noticed it just how fast idle temps are achieved after use, it's within seconds. Looks pretty nice vertically mounted as well.

[@DarkXtendoR]

cpu also water-cooled? if yes then where is its radiator, front or sides? also both radiators are set as exhaust right?

[@adamadam6351]

Same case here! Where do you put your CPU radiator with this configuration? I have my CPU radiator on the same side as the motherboard and then regular case fans on the bottom and top of the case. My GPU is air-cooled. Also congrats on getting this card , enjoy it!

[@dandanthesaxoman]

@@adamadam6351 Sound like the exact same setup position. Before the extra rad I had x3 fans on the top all as exhaust, 3 on the floor side as intake, 1 on the back as exhaust and the 360 with 3 fans on the side between the mobo and front glass. The CPU rad hasn't changed position.

[@deadhead4077]

Got this 4090 mounted in an 011 top exhaust vertical mounts as well. Loving it!

[@Noobmaster-yc2pf]

Can i remove the pumps and add my corsair one pumps and use my radiator?

[@Kizzster]

expected over 3000mhz consistently since it's liquid

[@spamcolector]

I actually have it in my system😊

[@JohnDoe-yv8yn]

was looking for something on this card thanks!

[@ronmagbanua8915]

Nice review for suprim x lc.. please do consider also reviewing gigabyte with 360mm aio.. thanks!

[@bildur1]

Its not the only.... Aorus makes one also

[@makatron]

This is the only one that I'm currently interested in. I've seen it going for 2,400 USD on ebay as of October 2022, but for sure this is the way I wanna do it.

[@Mildly_Amused]

I wouldn't buy from scalpers on eBay if you can avoid it.

[@MrLincoln87]

Hate how AIBs have "normal" cards for MSRP, then (in 4090 pricing) +$200-500AUD for the "OC" version, which adds SFA performance. And of course, local retailers were out of stock of the normal cheap versions, some still have stock of the OC versions of course for higher money. Atlest the "gaming" versions provide better cooling so can run quieter (usually)

[@sausages932]

Yep. I can't notice the performance increase with OC cards, but I sure can hear them, lol

[@kandyrew]

Hmm is it possible to swap out the radiator fans on this?

[@dontfollowme4057]

You beat Gamers' Nexus, Paul's Hardware, and Hardware Unboxed to the punch. Good job. We all must understand our usefulness.

[@TechnoFreak-IN]

Nvidia made FE so good, there is barely any reason left to choose an AIB card over FE! I can see more AIBs following what EVGA decided.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

Barely any reason? Better cooling, lower noise level and higher availability are all reasons to get an AIB card. Where I live it's simply impossible to get an FE card.

[@fajaradi1223]

FE doesn't sold worldwide. It's only available in some countries.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@@fajaradi1223 Exactly. So many people are oblivious to this fact and just mindlessly tell people to get an FE card.

[@romiepissdrunx]

any review on the suprim x triple fans version?

[@perceptivity_]

Nvidia just killed any other AIB in the market, EVGA definitely made the right call

[@Donbros]

I dunno thiscost 2500 euro in my country sad and its also out of stock lmao. But I may pay 2300 for it if it appears anywhere if it fits ncase m1. I want to do that build lol

[@ruetolo]

Can you build an ITX System with 4090, like ichill frostbite, and show how the temps are with the different setups of radiators?

[@wanimal668]

nice！want to see 4090 in ITX build.😀

[@bundyho1]

I tried so hard to get this card for my fractal Design Torrent compact. Keep trying i guess

[@bundyho1]

Got one!!! Probably try to mount outside of case in the back

[@notadi3927]

first

[@101boosta101]

$1.800.00 ?? MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDRR6X 384-Bit HDMI/DP Nvlink Torx Fan 5 Ada Lovelace Architecture Liquid Cool OC Graphics Card (RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G) Visit the MSI Store 5.0 out of 5 stars 1 rating $3,499.99 not quite out here in the states.

[@xGEOxSDx]

With evga dropping out, someone had to fill the hybrid card void.

[@K1LOGaming]

Been trying to snag this model. $150 for an AIO cooling solution 100% worth IMO

[@iSammax]

My two main concerns with this are pretty high memory temps compared to other models and pump failure/other potential AIO issues

[@makatron]

I'm sure the pump won't fail that easily, talking from experience never had one fail on me ever. But your miles may vary. Also if it fails warranty is there or just replace the pump yourself since they aren't that expensive.

[@makatron]

@@erisium6988 Yeah these pumps are designed to run at way so relaxed just so the pump last forever.

[@Mildly_Amused]

The memory is liquid cooled. I wouldn't worry about the temperatures. The video showed the memory junction temps of the founders card and the Suprim Hybrid being about the same during furmark.

[@jkell411]

The cooling is all from Cooler Master... Shouldn't be any problems besides the normal outliers.

[@makatron]

@Seola for what GN have stated these days, looks like margins are razon thin this time around.

[@PeterSlack83]

This is probably the only 4090 that would temp me, the others are just too huge and wont fit even in my fairly large case.

[@wololo10]

Water cooled GPUs make much more sense than CPUs nowadays really

[@VitaliyGrib]

Hello! Can I connect to MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM LIQUID X 24G + GPU with PCIe 5.0? (MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 1300W)

[@blitzgaming3743]

First

[@WarwickSeven]

Can it fit into the Louqe Ghost S1 with L-tophat ?

[@1stRanger]

Or just lower the power to drop 100W without almost no loss in performance and you're golden with FE cooler or any cooler that may come with that card for that matter. So absolutely pointless card imho. Custom loop - yes. AIO - nonsense.

[@steves.6649]

Have you just tested room noise level by sweeping test mic around the GPU card with fans off? And why would anyone want installing liquid cooled GPU radiator anywhere in the case with pulling air from outside to inside? That make no sense in any configuration. Period

[@Weaver0x00]

Does it fit into nr200p?

[@wiggyg7337]

Is this one not on the market? Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 XTREME WaterForce 24GB GDDR6X

[@Oldsah]

After MSIs Fiasco with the CPU AIOs I would never ever buy one without being absolutely sure it is good.

[@jamesmills4097]

erm msi have been doing AIO cooling on cards for years, they partnered with Corsair, the msi cards were called seahawk. and you could actually buy the cards direct from corsair

[@sedmi4LD]

1800 $ range? following the first link provided leads to a 3'000 British pounds. ridiculous!!!

[@jessiekil]

so Liquid cooled, cost more then FE edition? less FPS and more MHZ? at the cost of more power consumption? ooh yeah cost 600 euro more! no thankyou

[@Hakeem597]

You said this was the first AIO from MSI you've seen? Lmbo. The seahawk wasn't an AIO card 😭🤣🤣

[@MJ-uk6lu]

+50 watts for basically same performance. Looks like it will make to HWUB's dumb hardware of the year list.

[@alistairblaire6001]

I'm never going to buy this but the design is extremely nice. I dislike the gaudy RGB "gamery" design of other cards.

[@extremelydave]

Insane I tell ya, just plain crazy what they're doing these days.

[@Magnosummit]

I'm just amused to see the difference of another almost 900 MHz clock speed on the 4090 vs the 1.815 stated clock speed of my 3080 12gb (my 3080 does still boost to about 2 GHz if I let it, but I have it set to run between 1.7-1.8 to keep it cool). +1 GHz faster clock speed in one generation newer seems impressive.

[@MrZeljko88]

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB $3679 Au dollars and it is sold out.

[@puciohenzap891]

Disappointing all the way - rad too small, tubes placed wrong, no 90 deg adapters, low maximum power limit.

[@Gregoses]

5:00 WTF thats the same power draw in CB2077 as my 3080 TUF which has just two 8pins LOL

[@johnhowarth7216]

I would never buy nothing from msi that is water cooled have you seen the fuck up they made of there aios lol😂but you got to say it’s good to get your next free one

[@mileskt9232]

Wait can I not take these fans off? I wanted to use my lian li fans is this not possible? I get the fans are good but it will ruin the autheics in my case currently.

[@razorhanny]

This is the best looking RTX 4090.

[@Enjoying-Life]

Nice video! Can’t wait for your list of cases for the 4090. Also any idea what’s a good case for the evga 3090ti with an aio? Lastly, what resolution are you recording the videos? When I watch it on my 65” OLED, it seems stretched vertically making you look skinny.

[@bildur1]

Im using the Tower 500. Running AIO for the cpu on top of case and AIO for the 4090 on the vertical side rails... loving this case

[@xduskwolf.00]

Essentially any case that's optimized for airflow and has the space for the GPU and AIO would work just fine. Most reputable case manufacturers will list their maximum internal dimensions on their product page.

[@Enjoying-Life]

@@bildur1 what’s the tower 500?

[@bildur1]

Thermal Take tower 500.

[@LickyArc]

Previous generation also had this model. It went by seahawk

[@Bushwacked487]

Is it possible to swap the radiator fans out to noctuas?

[@Engel990]

It is

[@_lonath_]

The only hybrid cooled because eVGA left : (