Or Are These CHEAP Tools A Waste Of Money ?

5 Tools tested, one of which is basically identical, or is it?
In this weeks video I take a look into the Mellif tools range. They run off your existing batteries if you own Makita, Dewalt or Milwaukee. But cost a fraction of the price.
For a comprehensive list of all my tools - www.start-maki...
Here are the links to the tools that you have seen by Mellif...............
Mellif Glue Gun - UK LINK - amzn.to/47Vo9O2
US LINK - amzn.to/49avXwr
Mellif Blower - UK LINK - amzn.to/497HwEL
Mellif Random Orbital Sander - UK LINK - amzn.to/44J0Qpq
Mellif USB charger and torch - UK LINK - amzn.to/3syCroZ
Mellif Heat Gun - UK LINK - amzn.to/3P07L7I
Mellif Store Front - UK LINK - amzn.to/45KoK4Q
US LINK - amzn.to/3P2OD9a
Here are the links to the tools that In have for comparison................
3M Extract Sandpaper (all grits) - UK Link - amzn.to/4bhiwg4
US Link - amzn.to/3HBBmkp
Makita 5Ah Battery - UK LINK - amzn.to/3HGk2L2
US LINK (6ah) - amzn.to/42drNlj
Makita Battery Charger - UK LINK - amzn.to/3HzHmKr
US LINK - amzn.to/42iuGBd
Makita Random Orbital Sander - UK LINK - amzn.to/4981j72
US LINK - amzn.to/3Ugbke4
All UK links are for products that I have used. US links are the closest I can find. They are recommendations made from my experience, your may differ.
As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. It is a small income to the channel at no extra cost to the buyer.
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[@freddyjoe0910]

It's normal for the heat gun to smoke a little when they are new also the tips will smoke as well

[@startmaking1]

Phew thank you.

[@petermitchell5459]

Honest, genuine criticism of both brands. You don't push either way and leave it to us viewers to decide. I like that 👌

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Peter. Even I can't decide .

[@ilishmaach]

Came across your channel a week ago. Awesome detailed high quality content

[@startmaking1]

Oh thank you. that is kind. Much appreciated.

[@rogergladding7943]

Bought the glue gun and it was exactly as you described it. Only thing I don’t like is the led stays red. I would have liked it to turn green when up to temperature.

[@startmaking1]

That would be a lovely touch. I suspect that the extra 10p cost would be the reason but great point.

[@IanFowler-pb7ch]

@@startmaking1 I recently got the glue gun and it does now change to green when up to temperature and like you I really like it.

[@jimrosson6702]

Very cool great tools I’ve been looking for a glue gun going to look into this one right now thanks for sharing. Can’t wait to see the shop finished.

[@startmaking1]

The glue gun is the best of the bunch in my opinion. So useful.

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

Hi Mark, a very good review on these tools and for the price it's a no brainer , until now I never heard of Meliff tools and to make them fit batteries of the tools you got is a good thing, thanks for this great video I do enjoy watching them Take care mate👍

[@startmaking1]

Sorry Shaun. For some reasons your comments have not been coming through. Thank you as always. The sander seems to be a little hit and miss but the glue gun is a good one.

[@projectrebuild908]

Great video. Great to see a lesser known tool brand showcased

[@startmaking1]

Thank you so much.

[@Bluuuz]

Useful video. Thanks. I’m a Makita fan but without the budget to buy everything I want when I want it. The glue gun looks fab. I’ll take a look at the links as I’m in the market for a replacement impact driver. Oh, and I’ve caught up. You have been watched, weighed and found… excellent! I love the bits where you try and get bits wrong. It’s more encouraging than you can know. Keep it up, Mark.

[@startmaking1]

|I think that the glue gun is best in show out of these lot.

[@RedBurny2316]

never knew that about batteries, i have always left them in the tool. Think i will do this going forwards. thanks Mark

[@startmaking1]

Better safe than sorry in my option George.

[@RedBurny2316]

Cannot disagree with that. Cannot wait to see what your next step is with regards to your workshop. Enjoy the rest of your weekend mate 😀

[@501meganinja]

I like some tool comparisons. There so many videos comparing the big 3, but seeing some entry level tools reviewed seems useful for your audience. Lots of people starting out would rather have 5 cheaper tools than 1 dewalt!

[@startmaking1]

Thank you. I was trying to stay in the right area for a more beginner woodworker.,

[@LiLi-j8y]

[@BigHenFor]

Thanks for the video, and I think what you do is great to watch. You do you.

[@startmaking1]

That is really very kind. Thank you so much.

[@richardhart7652]

I don't take batteries off when I've finished with the tool and I do sometimes charge over night but I'm trying to stop myself from doing so interesting review

[@startmaking1]

hi Richard, You are absolutely in the majority here and I dont think that leaving the battery on the tool is the worst thing. I dont like the idea of charging overnight if I am honest but a lot depends on so many factors about your set up that I dont know. I am on the over cautious side with these type of things and have gotten into a habit now otherwise I would definitely forget.

[@ScarletEyeMoon]

Thx 4 sharing. I definitely don't leave batteries in chargers too. I like the tools, however I prefer corded tools, they're more powerful, last longer and are cheaper too. I wouldn't worry about the smoke on the heat gun, my hair dryer does that too sometimes when using it to dry things.

[@startmaking1]

You are welcome. With a new workshop and power, I am looking forward to the choice.

[@chriscollins9717]

It's nice to know these options exist. I might go for the USB adaptor for camping purposes

[@startmaking1]

Camping, that is a really good use for it.

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

Thanks for sharing! I own a number of tools from Makita, Ryobi and HItachi/Hikoki. I did consider the cordless Makita sander, but balked at the price, and, having used one belonging to a workmate, was not impressed by the runtime or comfort of use. That said, I am lucky enough to have purchased the excellent, corded Bosch orbital sander - considerably more than £40 - and it is a pleasure to use for extended periods. With great dust collection, and anti-vibration isolation, you don't have to hold it in a death grip, and very little of the vibration travels up your arm. I'd say, if you are planning on doing very little in the way of sanding, The Makita or knock off would suffice. Bang for buck, though, you'd be better off with a corded tool, both in terms of price and performance.

[@startmaking1]

I agree on the comfort. It is ok but just ok. Would prefer the Festool shape seems a little better ergonomically. I think that the Bosch is also a good shape. You need more at the back to hold rather than directly over the disc. Great summary too. Agreed.

[@_wmns]

I had the random orbital sander, but it broke after about 3 months of light use. I pulled it apart to see why and the spindle inside the motor had snapped, which was impossible to fix. The build quality seemed alright otherwise so I could have gotten a dodgy one, but from now on I'll probably just buy matika and hopefully save space in the landfill.

[@startmaking1]

This is really good feedback to have as I have not had time to long term test. What a pain that you could not at least fix yours. But I am happy to hear that the rest of the build was ok. I will test mine similar to how you used yours and see if it lasts the year. the landfill;; thing does worry me too and that is why I want to report back on longevity to some extent as I am not about buying disposable tools, more good value for users who dont need work horses. ie beginners and hobbyists.

[@whitehamma4597]

@@startmaking1 im thinking of getting that sander too, dos your sander still work or ist it already broken?

[@startmaking1]

@whitehamma4597 to be honest the vibrations put me off in the end. I like my makita but have just upgraded it to a mirka for the dust extractor

[@Den-Bee]

You mentioned you buy in Sapelle already planed. Where do you get your supplies of hard woods?

[@startmaking1]

Hi Dennis. Yes, I get it from the following place, www.toolsandtimber.co.uk. I like it but can't say whether it is good value.

[@Deansworkshop]

Great video mark. Very clear and to the point. Definitely food for thought. Will have to see for Dewalt batteries.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Dean. After a few weeks I have to say that the glue gun is definitely a win, as is the blower. The others I am still long term testing as I just dont know.

[@allangordon4585]

Hi good comparison test and yes the nozzles on the heat gun will smoke when brand new I have the dewalt version and mine smoked until they where broken in so to speak

[@startmaking1]

Thank you for the info Allen. Much appreciated.

[@Damon_Barber]

Great job on this tool review video! I think it is great for these off brand companies that offer comparable products when a comparison video can be done. No one I know wants to spend the money just to find out. We all like to know what we’re getting before we spend our hard-earned money.

[@zapa1pnt]

If they could and it was worth it, you can bet they would.

[@startmaking1]

Very True and I will do an end of year follow up to how they have held up under longer term use. I mean the charger is not likely to need a check on but the sander fascinates me.

[@stefanward-bradley7006]

Heatgun would be great for quick jobs like heat shrink or the special heat shrink with integrated solder for waterproof connections. Not so much for anything more that 5 mins of use. Gotta protect the batteries

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

If the specs are correct, it will draw 60A. Not the best way to treat a battery.

[@startmaking1]

Very true.

[@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230]

The smoking is most likely the oil residue burning off. Many tools that have metal on them are greased or oiled to prevent corrosion while being stored. As long as it stops after a few uses, it's not the motor.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you

[@Ed_Robson_1970]

with ref to the power sander, Rag n Bone Brown recently did a comparison between 2 corded sanders and showed how you can change the balance to fix the shaking, which might be worth you having a look at to see if you can do similar with the Mellif.

[@startmaking1]

Oh yes, great idea. I actually watched that one and saw that one has bolts added. I will take a look and see what I can do. Thankyou

[@garyblake3130]

I have the glue gun, really useful for temporary holds as I never think these are a really permanent fix on timber. With regards to the sander my only concern is when you say using a R/O sander for around an hour, take regular breaks when using these type of sanders and if you need to spend that amount of time maybe think you are using the wrong type of sander; there are far better types that will remove stock quicker and better. After a lifetime in the trade trust me you need to limit the time using a vibrating tool.

[@lutherburgsvik6849]

Indeed. Nerve damage from long term use of vibrating tools isn't fun.

[@startmaking1]

100% agree. I hope that I got the point across that I dont really recommend this type for pros. In honesty I dont see a pro using one of these as, like you say, a corded sander and one of the bigger ones, maybe a Festool, Bosch or mirka will do a better job quicker. But for a hobbyist, rounding edges and making smaller pieces, this could be a cheap option. I can't imagine how anyone could use one of these for 3-4 hours a day.

[@peterjohneggleton2011]

Hi Mark, Here`s one for you…. A mate in Norway has a vacuum cleaner tower thing like hairdressers have. Works great for general mess in his shop…. maybe worth looking into. Cheers Peter. When will you be doing next step in your build?

[@startmaking1]

hi Peter. That is a really clever idea. Will have to check it out. Thank you. the shop is in the interior stages. Saturday after next is the last of the exterior videos. Not long now.

[@allystrya]

The light on the power bank looks as if it could be used as a raking light. That to me would be more useful than that battery charging for checking swirl patterns while sanding. However the glue gun is almost exactly what I’ve been looking for. So I’ve ordered that I’ll get it on Monday and hopefully it lives up to my own expectations. 😂 Thank you for showing that in particular.

[@startmaking1]

I considered this but wondered if it would have the width to make it useful. Very good point though. And so long as you have the battery to sand, you have the battery to check for swirls. Good point. the Glue gun is my best in show here. I didn't want to video to sound like a click the link video but I should have said that it is one that most could use. Hope yours functions as well as mine and that you got the discount.

[@allystrya]

@@startmaking1 I got a headlamp that has a stretchy adjustable strap and attach it to my whatever sander I am using. But I have used pen lights all the way up to my actual lamps using the lampshade to get a good view😂I don’t think it’s width so much as getting a good angle with whatever light. Got the glue gun today and in testing it I am over the moon. I think I can finally put away the 4 different plug in ones around my shop. It did kind of freak me out at first as I put the glue stick in, waited about 4 minutes, went to try on my first piece and probably pulled the trigger a dozen times (with little tiny puffs of smoke ) before wondering if it was somehow eating and digesting the glue when I finally got some out 😂 Maybe it has just been a long while since I put a stick into a completely empty gun. Very, very exciting for me as I use a lot of glue especially when planing wonky boards. And, yes, thank you, in the US I did get a $2.00 coupon. 🤗🤗🤗

[@startmaking1]

I found that the glue gun was very effective, went through the free sticks pretty fast though. But I was doing a large ish job.

[@billffromnh]

Most of my hand tools are corded, but I do have 9.6 V Makita drill that needs a new battery. Prior to this video. I was not aware of Mellif or its concept. The US Amazon does carry Mellif tools. I think it's a great concept if someone has several batteries of the same company, particularly in a home hobbyist or part time shop. I might caution that the tools may look similar to a branded tools, but maybe there are some cost savings taken in their manufacturer. This may not even be an issue in the home shop. So i say put them all to work for a while & see how they perform. On the sanders, the Makita motor armature may be better balanced than the Mellif or ride in better bearings/bushings. If you get similar scratch patterns from both don't be concerned about one having more movement than the other. You don't need branded tools to enjoy this hobby. I have quite an assortment of tool brands, not many of which are major brands. I do like major brands for saw blades, router bits, & layout tools. But like many, I don't have a ton of money to invest in the hobby. I did enjoy this video's format & subject, even though they'll probably never be used in my own shop.

[@startmaking1]

Yes, It seems that the glue gun is the only one available in the US. Shame really. And I agree that looks should only be taken as that. The sander is just not the same. Ok for a hobbyist but not for longer term use. I plan to keep using where possible and see. Not sure the heat gun will get massive use but all of the others will. And thank you for the open mind. Like in the last video, I dont expect most to go out and buy a 5k laser but hopefully the content is at least interesting.

[@jezebabe]

Great videos and channel. I'm still catching up on your videos but do you have any videos on wood selection? I get totally confused looking at UK timber merchants about what I need to order to make something i.e. CLS, PSE, rough sawn, sheet materials, heat treated or not etc. Do you have any videos on this subject? Also, I have noticed on a few of your videos (including this one), that the sound is muffled in the left channel and okay in the right - maybe you have fixed this in more recent vids. Keep up with great work! 👍

[@startmaking1]

THank you, None yet on wood selection. Though it is a good idea. It's not something I am an expert in but definitely a good video with research. You are also spot on about the channel sound. I had an issue with the channels on my mic. It is fixed now. Thank you.

[@shane555]

Glue guns are ace! They're one of those tools you end up looking for jobs to do with them 😂

[@startmaking1]

100%. I never know just how handy.

[@barryallin8161]

A little surprised that you didn't look at similar kit from Lidl or Aldi, although I realise that they aren't compatible with Makita batteries. I'm a hobbyist, and I've been using several "Parkside" tools for the last 2 years, and have generally had a positive experience. One small disappointment with one tool, but that could just be a rogue, or my error. Maybe you could do a comparison vid sometime?

[@startmaking1]

I would love to do that comparison. I love a good trip to middle aisle.

[@zapa1pnt]

Mark, there are also battery adapters to be considered. 😁✌🖖

[@startmaking1]

lol. Now you are opening infinite possibilities.

[@michaelwillson6847]

Great video m8 must say they seem like decent tools. Heat gun think always smoke when there new burn off excess debris etc should settle. I actually just bought one from black and decker granted corded but it was 20 although a looked at einhell which is the battery platform of my drill and driver and they do cordless for 27 although was out stock hense why didn't. The blower seems really handy and the charger light think you'll be surprised how much u use the light think routing Extra light sanding give u light to see sanding swirls. Or even for digging through drawers looking for stuff. 😂 May have to look into couple them. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍👏

[@startmaking1]

Thank you mate. They are surprising. The glue gun is great. My dad let me borrow a Black and decker one for the workshop windows. Approx 30 yrs old, worked great but the cord was a pain. Hopefully this one is powerful enough. The blower is actually very good. Used it to clean the roof before applying the rubber but forgot to press record. Great idea for the light too. I didn't think about that until today. Will drop you an email.

[@michaelwillson6847]

@@startmaking1 nah worries catch up soon. Yea must say you hear of people saying shine light across when sanding and will help detect pig tail swirls although you'll have less them than me using the 3m sandpaper. The charger option though super handy. Think the blower will deffo be one a look at. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

[@joep0rter]

The glue gun is £24 at the moment on Amazon UK, I've just ordered one

[@startmaking1]

Yeah, I think that they gave us a discount like. Not too shabby at that price.

[@garylinker69]

I hope those are affiliate links buddy because you made me buy a sander! Thanks for doing this video. I have Makita and unbranded replacement batteries, so I'm excited to finally get a sanding job done soon 😁

[@startmaking1]

I dont think you will be disappointed. Though, take regular breaks if doing a larger job as the kicking will start to make your arm and hands ache. Like I said, not tried it longer term but for small jobs, it will do ok.

[@garylinker69]

​@@startmaking1well, it arrived. Seems my battery type wasn't compatible 😔 So I ordered new batteries 😊 and got to work. After 30mins, I think I've broke the spindle as it makes a clicking noise now instead of spinning. 😂 Oh and my existing charger don't work with the 2 new batteries... all in, I'd perhaps spend more time doing my own research but still appreciate your review video 👍🇬🇧

[@startmaking1]

Hi Gary. I can't believe it. That sounds like such a crap experience. What battery did you originally have. And for the spindle to break. I am shocked. I am sorry that I led you towards this purchase. Have you contacted the seller for a refund or replacement. If they dont do anything let me know and you can have my meliff one. Compatible with the Makita batteries.

[@garylinker69]

@@startmaking1 I've not chased or tested further as I've not got a charger yet lol. I'm not overly worried about it, I did give it a proper work out. The rate at which it worked means that I was bouncing all over regardless of speed setting, so I probably applied too much downwards pressure to remain on the piece. Either way, not your fault or issue but I appreciate your offer sir Have a lovely weekend 🇬🇧👍

[@themeat5053]

Mark, "palava," brillant! Not many of us Americans will recognize Nigerian slang. I'm going to try and incorporate it into my vocabulary (it'll be better than the words I currently use). Nothing to worry about. Good comparison video. Me, I'm a DeWalt guy and some of those tools I prefer in corded versions (my sander, for sure). I could use a small blower, but not if it puts me into a new battery platform. The jersey/jumper it's like, "Where's Waldo" except, I know where to find you. Keep on growing. Total thumbs up!

[@christianwithers7335]

Nor would anyone who isn't a Yank, "palava" comes from Latin dear boy.

[@startmaking1]

You know, you are both correct according to Mr Google.Originally Latin, Parabola. But Nigerian slang in more recent times.

[@startmaking1]

Meat, hope you are well. I heard some one else using it. Possibly Adele. dont ask. sounds great in a South London, lock stock movie, kind of accent. Haven't heard it with a US accent but I think it will definitely work. I think if I had my time again to set up I would go Dewalt. Seems that they are a small step above Makita and similar cost. I should do an easter egg style where's Wally, as we call him over here, Maybe just pop the jersey on for one quick clip and see who spots it. Maybe only you. Not sure anyone else is that interested lol.

[@themeat5053]

@@christianwithers7335 Christian, thanks for educating me. Though I think your tone might be a bit haughty. As a descendant of the Legions (there is a lot Roman blood coursing through my veins, as well as, their wine), I'm glad to see their language live on. Palava, could also come from modern Italian, "parlare," but who knows. And, lastly, since I don't derive from any Dutch ancestry, technically, I'm not a Yank. Drive on...🤌

[@themeat5053]

@@startmaking1 The point I was trying to make is that not only did I learn something new, but I could use it to sound less crude than my normal self. Didn't think it would become a thing, but please continue to keep me on my toes as I feel the inevitable cloud of Alzheimer descending at my age. Happy Weekend!

[@michaelhutin5451]

Shame they don't make anything for the Rolls Royce of power tools, Parkside.

[@startmaking1]

Very true. Joking aside though, I do need to try some of those out. People seem to like them.

[@Tony-mr2jc]

New heat guns will smoke the first few times of use i assume its some sort of protective coating on the tool when new

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Tony. Makes me feel better.

[@EvanDunville]

I have their hot glue gun for dewalt it's so awesome. Those little blowers are awesome too.

[@startmaking1]

Agreed. The blower was the real surprise. Keep reaching for it.

[@jeroenklugt]

would be interested if they have a 14.4v version too.

[@startmaking1]

Maybe in time. Not sure if you can add in an adapter.

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

Important question for any battery tool- is it brushless? Costs more, but longer life and more power for less battery. Cheapees never are. Makita orbital may not be, DeWalt certainly is. Not buying brushless means you are going to end up replacing it... Glue gun is good; will be buying one. Especially as the DeWalt version is £1 cheaper! The heat gun is advertized as 1200W- which means a 4Ah battery (~80W) will last less than 4 minutes...

[@petrokemikal]

I wouldnt necesserally buy into the brushless hype.. Sure brushless motors are a little more powerfull and have better runtime, but your forgetting about how easy it is to replace brushes.. If you do damage to a brushless motor or the controller that runs it, your done for.. Brushed tools are far easier to repair and fix, brushless arent.. Thats a massive disadvantage that you rarely hear about.. For example I own a brushed dewalt 18v circular saw, 5 years old now, still working, just recently replaced the brushes and now its brand new.. Bought the cordless multi tool from dewalt and burnt it out after about a year on site use.. Had to buy the speed cotroller and swich as one unit, cost about 3/4s the price of the tool so I didnt bother... If it were brushed id probaly have fixed it for 30 quid..

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

@@petrokemikal Brushes do not just wear- they loose power. Rule of thumb is 1v per brush- so 2v lost before you start. The electronic switching of a brushless is way more efficient (60-100% more use for the same charge) and more powerful. Example- the Bosch 12v drill is 15Nm brushed, 35Nm brushless. Accurate speed control whatever the load, electronic torque limiting, no commutator sparking, I could go on. Yes, it costs more, and is more complex, but I would buy nothing else. Reminds me of a friend that said 'modern cars are so hard to work on' to which I replied 'but it is very rare that you need to'.

[@petrokemikal]

​@@Tensquaremetreworkshop You can quote all the stats and figures you like mate.. End of the day, brushed tools are so reliable that many still use tools from 20 years ago.. Do you think you will have your crushless circular saw for 20 years ? Dont lie now

[@NathanTalbertWoodworking]

Awesome video. I don't understand why people get so butt hurt over you-tubers accepting free stuff. You worked your butt off to get where you are. Enjoy the fruits of your labor. I do understand when people are upset when people accept free stuff and flat out lie about quality in their reviews to get more free stuff. Your review was fair. It's great for this type of person, not so great for that type of person.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Nathan , much appreciated. I agree with you, and can see how it is easy to get sucked into becoming a product only channel. I personally can't wait to make something to be honest.

[@brentreitherman5268]

I'm still loving your shed videos. I wouldn't mind if you spent the rest of the year making only those as you built out your dream workshop. @@startmaking1

[@startmaking1]

Thank you That would be a lot of fun to make actually.

[@dudlydjarbum2045]

This is why you see ryobi green in alot of shops. They may rock blue red yellow for most tools but chartreuse has everything.

[@startmaking1]

Very true.

[@NitoTerrania]

Okay... I consider this topic a nasty one... Speaking from experience, the name of the brand (Maliff or whatever) does not matter at all. The product almost always comes from china, and to china the money will flow. Hence "the nasty" part of the topic... Apart from the obvious IP Theft...These chinese companies, does not care about their reputation when they're selling cheap product, hence, they does not care much about OUR safety. If their product blow up, hurts or kills people... they just have to declare bankrupcy, pin the blame on someone, and then make THE EXACT SAME PRODUCTS on a new brand. The big brand cannot let their name tarnished like that. That is the main part... --- The second (of three) part is... I believe this is a slippery slope... cheap products get sold easily, and the big brand are losing some of their sales from it. What happens next is... what I like to call "mediocrity ascend to normalcy and innovation belongs to the thieves instead of the innovator". Some may say that this is an exxageration... But I dare say I have learned from experience... not in woodworking tools... but in Video games. Chinese video games makes the most money in this planet... and all of their games are either mediocre, or steals almost everything except the visuals from someone else (example : Genshin Impact, stole the entire ideas from Zelda, and then add in the sexual elements dan the gambling addiction element. The same will happen to tool industry if we keep buying the cheap knock off of the "advanced technology" tools. in the near future, I believe that many woodworking tools will have its digital counterpart (automatic/digital table saw fence, laser cut with easy interface, digital router, etc)... and china will make the unsafer ones while the original innovators won't be able to sell as much. And then.... when all the dust settled... injury to faulty tools and mediocre tools becomes the mainstream (just like Genshin Impact becomes the highest revenue making online video game in the planet) --- The third and final act... I really hope you will fix the audio soon... It's kinda jarring to have it imbalance towards the left ear :)

[@ibubezi7685]

That's not to say that the 'big' brands are not made in China (for a while, there were 3 laptop manufacturers - in the world - in Taiwan - they just produced different 'makes' for different brands/labels - same happens with supermarket 'house-brands' - the A-brand produces the same product (with slight variations) for the 'competition'). But yes, China is stealing left and right - we allowed them for decades and now 'we pay the price' (no pun) as they compete the Western brands out of the market (whereas we brought our factories there to begin with). (EV) Cars are next - and, they built their first jet-liner... Point is, we want cheap(er) - and governments destroying middle-classes, people have less money to spend... It's a race to the bottom and even China is becoming too expensive - moving production to Cambodia and Vietnam (two other great examples of Communism-turned-capitalist). So, nice if you can afford the brands (with their mark-ups, marketing and overhead), but more and more people can not - and paying triple for a machine that might not last three times longer (trying to find parts that are not almost the price of a new tool....), it is not hard to see why more and more knockoffs will come (and go). Rough times for sure.

[@startmaking1]

Hi. Wow, that was a long comment. Thank you for posting it. Let me address the sound first. I think that in videos that have not already been recorded it should be fixed as I have spoken to Rode and put in a work around. Not my thing all this tech. I cna see the issue with the China part. The reputation. It's funny, my contact at Meliff emailed me today to reassure people that they offer a year after purchase where they offer some kind of assistance. I didn't ask details but was surprised to hear that. As for injuries and such, I have to disagree to a small extent on some points as I have tried to contact Makita as a customer and have had multiple emails replied with the same copy and paste reply that didn't even address my initial question. Their customer service is as poor as a lot of others. Shame as I have invested a lot in them and advertise them often and for free. As for the other points, I can see your point of view and you clearly have more experience that myself. All I can say is that in most cases, and you will see this in a future Temu related video, I am becoming more cautious about buying injury producing tools on the cheap, rather more accessories. Marking equipment and such. One reason why I am yet to test the Meliff Jigsaw or circular saw. Thank you for taking the time to comment and it is much appreciated.

[@NitoTerrania]

@@startmaking1 Thanx for reading that long comment of mine, really appreciate it. Yeah, I heard that Makita service center can be hard to deal with. I'm really looking forward to the Temu video and eventual Audio fix Oh I forgot to mention in my previous comment that... for highly overpriced cordless tools, like the cordless glue gun, cordless torch, and cordless soldering iron... I think we should just buy the cheap chinese ones. And some people in my country sell a...uhh... battery adapter ? It's a plastic with some metal strip that goes between a brand of cordless tool, and another brand of battery (so you can use a Makita Battery on a Bosch Cordless Drill, for example) Some even 3D print it (in 2 parts, and you can put a thin bended metal strip that acts as a conductor)

[@startmaking1]

Fingers crossed on the Audio., Its driving me nuts. The Temu purchases were a real eye opener. As many other videos have shown. Some good thought. Fun nonetheless. I agree with your comment too. the glue gun is brilliant and for around £20 it is so much cheaper than others. Worth a shot for sure. I would quite like some adapters as Meliff make a fair amount more for dewalt than Makita. You are right from your original post too. I have already had one person say they got the sander and it broke. So maybe the best ones are the simple cheaper ones like the glue gun and USB torch.

[@doctorbee415]

Unrelated. But on a separate video you posted, which I now can't find, you ordered some planed wood, sold online. Which companies do you use for this please??

[@startmaking1]

I get my wood from toolsandtimber.co.uk. I am happy with their service and quality. No commission lol.

[@6panel300]

Thanks for review, they achieved what they wanted as I now know they exist and will be searching their products for bargains that I don't really need.😉

[@startmaking1]

Very good point. All I will say is the glue gun is the one to try if any,

[@sumeraybuilds]

Nice video!

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Bud.

[@trickiejohn]

Just watched the video, enjoyed it. My comment is on the cost upgrades since this video, considerably more expensive now than 2 months ago, I’ll stay with Dewalt. Thanks anyway 🤟🏼

[@startmaking1]

Oh that is interesting. I hadn't checked. Thank you for the heads up

[@paulmaryon9088]

Great video, thank you ,

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Paul.

[@paulonions]

I've just ordered an electric toothbrush and I don't have any teeth. Now I'm going to buy woodworking tools and I don't have a shed/workshop. Or any hands. The power of the internet. And I don't even have a connection.

[@startmaking1]

lol. thank you Paul. Made me laugh.

[@paulonions]

@@startmaking1 honestly though I'm itching to have a go at making stuff, just playing around. I need somewhere to do it though, but maybe I'll come up with something. Keep up the great work, very informative and entertaining. 👍🏻

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Paul. I started on 2 saw horses and a plank of wood. In fact I started just on a step ladder that turned into a bench of sorts. Hard to explain. But the better the space, the easier it is.

[@GarysDIY70]

great video as always, but not convinced with any of those tools, but maybe a little with glue gun and blower, thanks

[@startmaking1]

Hi Gary. That is kind of my take away. The glue gun and blower will be used regularly but the others are more for people who do less that me I think. Im not really sure I need a heat gun all the time, but may appreciate having it for that one job.

[@christianwithers7335]

But if you leave your charger in the house...you'll have to return to the house and pull the cable from its plug ! Or buy a second cable !! It is a great idea for camping or such.

[@christianwithers7335]

Also you didn't mention longevity linked to replacing parts. One can buy Makita spares, any part they've ever made, cheap and delivered in about 48hrs.

[@startmaking1]

I definitely think that a second cable in the workshop is the way to go. I have a few spares as Amazon seem to sell them in pairs, or at least the ones I get. Spot on for camping. And you know what, I actually took my Makita fan with me, last time I went away, so the batteries were packed.

[@startmaking1]

That is very true. Great point. I guess I see these more for hobbyists, the sander most of all with the theory that under occasional use it would hopefully last until they are improved enough to upgrade to something more expensive. But you are definitely right.

[@Pony5950]

How are they after 7 months and do you still use them? The sander was a definate no no after you said that you could feel it halfway up your arm after only a few minutes but iv'e got the glue gun and would well recommend it. Good video cheers.

[@startmaking1]

Great question. The sander I dont use. Interesting experiment and I'm sure if money is tight then it could serve a purpose. The glue gun, heat gun and torch battery adapter thing are all in my circulation of tools. Like you, I think that the glue gun is fab. And the Blower is superb. Are these affected by the make, I dont know. I could probably find the blower from 10 different brands but having a small one to clear dust and debris from the workshop is really good.

[@Pony5950]

@@startmaking1 I forgot to say that my glue guns led turns green when up to temp as someone commentated that theirs stays on red.

[@startmaking1]

I think that mine stays red. I know when it is ready when I burn myself on the tip.

[@ralphjas3725]

Nice video Mark! How is the shed coming along?

[@startmaking1]

Hi Ralph. Thank you. You will not be surprised to hear that I had a right pain doing the interior last week. Not fun for someone on their own to get the full sheets onto the ceiling. And the quality will need me to think of a cover up of sorts. So it should make a fun video. But overall. In real time, the electrics are wired, just waiting to be connected and once I have painted and done a few other small jobs, it is ready to go. In the KZbin world, the last exterior video is out Saturday week. then interior 2 weeks later.

[@MemphisCorollaS]

Looking forward to more good stuff from you for 2024!

[@startmaking1]

Thank you very much.

[@patbird9694]

Mellif cordless hot glue is awesome. Use mine all the time. So spoilt with cordless technology. To use corded power tools.

[@startmaking1]

That is so true. I love mine.

[@jigsey.]

Love KZbin algorithms... i was Googling a dewalt palm sander... then up popped this video .. Im gonna order the palm router

[@startmaking1]

Wow that js weird. Be careful of the sander. I have had a few reports of the main shaft snapping after heavy use. But people have also said that they were giving it some stick

[@brucewelty7684]

In the cost comparison, you didn't mention battery compatibility. Which is a significant driving concern. A competitor may have the heat gun for 10 pounds less but if it is a bastard battery..YUCK. My guess on the smoking issue: new part break-in.

[@startmaking1]

Very true. I will have to take a look. And I think you are right Bruce about the smoking. will keep using and see if it improves.

[@patbird9694]

UK version channel of Make Something (bizarro world )😂

[@startmaking1]

Now that is a real compliment. He is a far better woodworker though.

[@BobMuir100]

Sanders: have you considered using a lower power battery for the unbranded one? Bob England

[@zapa1pnt]

What would that do but give shorter battery life????

[@BobMuir100]

@@zapa1pnt less power into the sander may make it more controllable? Bob

[@startmaking1]

I was curious about the same. And now you mention that, it may just work. I may try a battery with one bar left as that definitely reduces the power to my Makita one.

[@christianwithers7335]

Zapa Ampage is not the same as voltage

[@BobMuir100]

@@christianwithers7335 ok, but have you tried it as I would love to know. Bob

[@orangeskythinking]

The heat gun shouldn’t smoke…it could be the attachment burning in… with many wood burning stoves, you have to burn them once outside to burn off the chemicals…could this be the case here. Personally I would not use it if it’s smoking. 😮

[@startmaking1]

You are probably right. I will try it a few times and see if it persists. It will only ever get occasional use in. my set up but want it to be safe.

[@LS-uv9gg]

And here I never knew Dewalt was a German company...

[@startmaking1]

Lol. I take it the v caused this comment.

[@ianpearse4480]

Interesting.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Ian.

[@David_11111]

google them they make guns for other batteries.

[@startmaking1]

I think that I have seen the Milwaukee one looked at by rag n bone brown. He liked it.

[@adamford3021]

Copy tools simply undermine the reputation of the originator and they are cheap for a reason. But more importantly the top players invest into new developments, new products, battery platforms etc. The copy companies simply COPY.

[@startmaking1]

Fair enough. You are right. But they are still available and I think that they do need to be considered and if I can help a few beginners find their way, I feel ok about it. But I do understand and agree to an extent.

[@richardstevenson2727]

👊👍

[@BobMuir100]

You need to plan your tests better. And result no surprise was it? Bob England

[@startmaking1]

Why plan it better Bob. Am I missing something.

[@BobMuir100]

@@startmaking1 yes mate you are. You need to know exactly what you are doing now and next. You seemed to be stumbling (rambling) at times. You didn’t set how tests were to be done and why and then clearly show the results, you didn’t. Failing to plan is planning to fail as the saying goes. A chart or something at the end is always a good thing particularly if you allow a free PDF download. Not having opened boxes and looked before isn’t the positive thing you seem to think. Stop the recording and move the camera. Please don’t just move it live. Look you will get there I have faith you will. Just look at what others do in similar situations and not necessarily woodworkers!! Tell us what you going to do, tell us, tell us what you did……that’s the GOLDEN RULE of presentation. If you don’t highlight the 3 steps to us it will go smoothly, do you recall it happening to you at presentations? It will have. Bob England

[@startmaking1]

Hi Bob. Thank you for your advice.

[@BobMuir100]

@@startmaking1 look I am happy to help you……if you want it ……if you don’t then fine. It’s what do you want an OK channel, mediocre one, great one, or top one. A big hitter can never be guaranteed but one can push in the correct direction. A big channel means far more work PRE shooting the video and a lot of I dotting and t crossing. Your life, not mine, choose but you need help (we all do) doesn’t need to be me and mine would be limited. Kindest Bob Manchester

[@startmaking1]

@BobMuir100 hi Bob. First off please don't take this relpy as anything other than factual. No insult has been taken my your message and I hope this is only read as a reply to someone offering advice. I understand that you know what makes a good video. Sadly, I know too. It is what frustrates me when I am making videos that i know aren't quite there. But what you don't know us why. And why would you. The fact is the tool test video was made when I had all my tools locked away and inaccessible . As are my tripods and lots of other items I need in order to make an acceptable video by perfectionist standards. All I can do.is my beat. And please remember this when watching. I make these basically for free with the aim of helping beginner and intermediate woodworkers. I'm not chasing the big channels. If it comes then great. I'll deal with that as and when. Also please remember when criticising my results and performance. You also don't know my constraints. I have just built my workshop. That took a lot physically and mentally. I also have a full time job. I have 2 young kids. My wife is battling long covid. I suffer from ME or chronic fatigue as it is also known. And yet I am still happily making the videos to my best standards. It's all I cam do and I will not apologise if they are not good enough. I just wanted to give it a try. Now, if you are still reading then you haven't been offended by my honesty and that is good. Please do feel free to offer assistance but if you re read your first comment, maybe offer it kindly as so many it others do. Simply insulting a video helps no one. And rest assured I do intend to plan as much as I can in future videos, like I have in ones prior to these. Take care and thank you

[@anthonygriffin3147]

Got a sander like dewalt it's poo don't like it it wobbles the fat to much 😂😂

[@startmaking1]

lol. I did worry about this too.

[@Richardblackdog]

Stop reviewing......Start making!

[@garylinker69]

I'm sure it's "start making... Content". I'm good with it tbh so much so, I've ordered a sander. I am looking forward to a "make" video soon too though 😂

[@startmaking1]

Hi Richard, I would love to but if you watch any of my videos you will see that I am still building my workshop. I dont have the place available to do a build and I really do want to. Thank you though.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Gary. I will get there I promise.

[@petrokemikal]

Im an advocate for just because you have an expensive brand of power tools doesnt mean there all better... Case in point.. I own both makita and dewalt battery and corded tools.. My makita recip saw.. Usless.. Utter garbage.. Somtimes I wonder is it even actually working at all...My dewalt corded palm sander ..Rubbish.. Burnt out after a week of use.. Dewalt multi tool cordless.. Gutless !!! Makita cordless angle grinder.. Gutless No name brand china angle grinder for makita batteries, brillant... No name orbit sander for dewalt cordless.. Brilliant... I gave up convincing myself that you get what you pay for.. You dont.. Billy big brands are charging extortionate ammounts of money for somtimes the same or better tool you can buy from china for far less.. Do you research.. Dont buy stuff just beause its dewalt ect ect... Your pocket and your anger mangment will thank you..

[@startmaking1]

Very well said. We are all doing this differently and different levels of tools suit the individual and the job they are doing differently.

[@pietjepuk9575]

If i was the CEO of Makita i would take those Chineseum brand to court for using the same sockets and model etc.. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@robertspeer]

CEO yes, but literally everyone else making an income under the 95th percentile hell no. Capitalism requires competition, and is very good for everyone else.

[@startmaking1]

tricky isnt it. I reached out to Makita and they offered me nothing but an insulting copy and paste email in return. I wanted to know whether they care basically and all they told me, without reading my email was that they dont want to send me any free tools. And to be clear, I didn't ask. I asked for an email address for someone I could ask questions. I didn't even say I was a you tube channel. I said I had questions about some of their tools. As a customer. Hard to feel sorry for them but I do agree that they have spent the money to develop this tech.

[@robertspeer]

@@startmaking1 legal protections for intellectual property are important, IMHO. The issue is what is novel or new enough to justify a government enforced monopoly? Makita didn’t actually invent much other than a nice product mix, ergonomics. and a proprietary battery connection. The most novel feature is unnecessarily proprietary battery connection. I say this as a makita fan.