or, Why I Ditched Atomos for smallHD

[@JustinPhillip]

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[@jdjr3640]

Just got a steal on a used 501 and it's pretty epic. The feature set is extremely similar so I really appreciate you going through and broadening my knowledge of the product.

[@ImaginationVFXhouse]

Yeah smallHD due to the camera we use supporting sdi out. I feel like it’s the little things that separates professional feature/TV gear and technology from people starting out. The ability to save profile presets and transfer it from one monitor to another is a must when working with lots of rental houses.

[@BadKarma714]

That monitor is really good I live in Garden Grove so I know how the sun make my phone where I can't see anything and I can see your monitor better from this video then my phone in real life

[@JustinPhillip]

that's awesome!

[@mathiasertnaes9388]

I work on high end commercials as a First AC and have had one of these as a daily driver for About two years now. To me this is 70% of a 703/TVLogic, having the build quality and a lot of the pro features. That said the lack of Lemo in and passthrough is a Big let down. Just make sure to watch for Color accuracy, as these tend to go wayyy off after 3-4 months and need to be re-calibrated. I’ve now gone over to a 703UB because I need those^ features and more brightness. The 702 OLED is really an overlooked monitor, just cheap enough to let you enter into the pro monitor world without having to spend €2500+

[@pixmediachfilmproductions5841]

Thanks for your review Justin! I also switched from Atomos to SmallHD 702 (standard version) Since bmpcc4k I do not need an external recorder. What to speak against Atomos - build quality - Touchscreen (fingerprints) - Got hot like a toaster - Battery life - Personality of Atomos CEO ;)

[@AaronTYang]

like the last one

[@joshuamartinstudios]

I actually just picked up this monitor. And you're right there are no other reviews out there but I got it because of your recommendation. It gets here Wednesday. Are you still using it?

[@JustinPhillip]

Joshua Martin Studios Hey brother!!! Sadly, i’m not...7 inches was too big for my style of shooting, with the ready rig & everything. But boy was it a beauty. I just really love smallHD’s OS, there’s nothing else like it. I was gonna get the 503 UltraBright but it arrived to my house damaged from Adorama, but it was like serendipity because PortKeys sent me the BM5 2 days earlier...so i was like...i’ll just keep my $1800. 🤣🤣 The BM5 and UltraBrights have the same amount of nits, and the build quality is very similar. But nothing beats smallHD software. 😎🙌🏼

[@JustinPhillip]

Things i miss most about that 7” oled, is the OLED technology and those soft keys, and the build quality of that thing. Superb!

[@penfex]

Thanks for a great overview and diving deep into how much you can get out of these monitors :)

[@PhenomenalPictures]

Did you see the pocket 4K/6k build video that has black magic EVF hocked up

[@JustinPhillip]

Cas Films Whaaat?? Like the EVF from the URSA??

[@PhenomenalPictures]

Justin Phillip 😂😂Yeah I was surprised as well here's a link kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWiZqp94jLyjfNU

[@WanderlustPhotographyOrg]

I am a standin too and videographer --- same all Small HD even on a 150 million dollar film i've worked on.

[@daylight5500]

the term you are looking for is that it cross converts from SDI to HDMI and vice versa. Sorry, don't let me interrupt you. Wow, that is a lot of good info. Cheers!

[@ReggieABrown]

I prefer my atomos over smallHD and I've worked with both. One the set of the first feature I worked on the DP running A cam had smallHD and I was using my shogun inferno on B cam. He hopped on to my cam for a few shots. After using the atomos and playing back the footage I shot and previewing it on the atomos, he liked it so much he said it's a good chance he's going to switch. I've seen pics of atomos on sets for big budget movies that's been in the theaters. But I do agree that I've seen smallHD on sets more. I believe it all comes down to preference. I didn't really care for smallHD because it was too contrasty and the menu system was complicated.

[@JustinPhillip]

Reggie A Brown The newer ones, like this OLED, are great for dialing in contrast and calibrated looks. i hear you tho. they’re both great companies

[@ReggieABrown]

@@JustinPhillip Yes sir, I'd use either one of only one was available! And keep up the great content bro!!

[@jaybillups2063]

Yep, I just switched. The EL zone system, multiple SDI in, to name a couple thing, are game changers. I talked to Atomos before I switched … EL is not in the near future.

[@Dezdirectz]

Available now on there monitors!

[@jaybillups2063]

@@Dezdirectz thanks

[@BLThackrey]

I bought the Smallhd OLED AC7 for £60 used . there are bargains to be had , even on eBay .. Older gimbals and Sachtler Tripods are also cheap as chips and worth looking out for .

[@JustinPhillip]

B.L Thackrey That’s what’s up!

[@Canoneosmiami]

Very good review,I am new to it all ..

[@frostybe3r]

Yeah sorry but where's the 4K HDR ProRes RAW on this? Your entire idea behind using this monitor is the OLED, lol.

[@JustinPhillip]

yah, old video lol . Been using the newest HDR Video Assist. Tutorial is up

[@GeneralGarvel]

how do you feel about this monitor compared to the black magic video assist?

[@JustinPhillip]

12G HDR all … the… WAY

[@GeneralGarvel]

@@JustinPhillip This would make for a really interesting comparison video because we are looking at buying a handful of high end Small HD monitors

[@bj888rn]

Nice video Justin! What would you recommend for shooting skateboarding with my A6500, SmallRig cage, top handle (etc)? Bright enough for being out in daylight, but with latency low enough for shooting action stuff real close to an obstacle or person. So you know, I'm looking to get a monitor that does exactly that without breaking the bank. Cheers

[@JustinPhillip]

Probably a PortKeys! 🙌🏼🦾

[@JustinPhillip]

Check out this one! : amzn.to/3cK8zcc

[@bj888rn]

@@JustinPhillip Thank you so much!

[@NewerSing]

This video made me think, I already got Fotga DP500 for my BMPCC6K, is ot worth it to get Atomos for A7s III? I have Fuji X-T4 and plan on getting C300 Mk3, so it is really odd to think how atomos would integrate into my system. It seems to me that perhaps I don't need it if I am running mobile, 10bit is quite enough for a small camera setup. Is ProRes worth it in a small setup that can shoot 10bit? I would appreciate your opinion on that, thanks! P.S I ditched not only Zhiyun Crane 3S, but also Ronin S after your video. Apparently DJI focus on Apple devices and my Sony devices are not compatible, I went for a Glidecam :) Less features, more rigidity, no electricity.

[@JustinPhillip]

С И I use the nee HDR Video Assist. ProRes is a dream to edit with compared to any other codec

[@NewerSing]

@@JustinPhillip thanks! I like how you keep up the interactiveness! It means a lot to us viewers, I wish you best and infinite creativity! Thanks again!

[@JustinPhillip]

С И Thank you! 👊🏼

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

Does the ninja V hav screen overlay and screen capture

[@PatientZeroBalisong]

Appreciate ya boss!

[@NelsonsReview1]

What do you think about this compared to the black magic video assist 12G?

[@JustinPhillip]

I prefer the HDR Video Assist, the scopes are better, 2500nits, HDR, can record ProRes proxies from my P4K simultaneously...what else? The main things i miss from smallHD are the custom false color, screen grab/overlay, and being able to send custom screens/LUTs downstream.

[@NelsonsReview1]

Justin Phillip Thanks for responding!

[@krischanrudolph6005]

Hey Justin, was the (lower) Resolution enough for focusing without peaking? I dont like to use peaking for focusing because you tent missfocus more and would like to rely on imagesharpness alone. Thanks for your answer

[@JustinPhillip]

im not sure this is an old video and i dont have that monitor anymore

[@krischanrudolph6005]

@@JustinPhillip ok thanks

[@joshtran1483]

@@JustinPhillip what you use now

[@thepyrex8307]

Would you go with 5 inch oled (focus) or 7 inch (702) Oled?

[@JustinPhillip]

five inch. this one is good for directors monitor, but i found 7 inch to be too large for onboard

[@beeftownz]

Can you please help me? I'm in the market for a monitor upgrade and I would love to use it as a secondary color grading monitor (as apposed to my computer screen. That's been a brewing idea for a while so happy that other people are doing it) I'm not trying to be this brand vs that brand. But no video mentioned this before I saw it, that I can calibrate the atamos shinobi with its remote input using a spyder. Would that make it a good color grading monitor? & if so at what comparable standard? (that's a weird question i know) &if you were to go that route how long would you be there? I just want it to last a long time hah! and more importantly through your understanding/expertise/guesstimintation how would that be compared to a monitor such as this? That was a lot I know sorry! I just want to hear your opinion/expertise since you've been around the block.

[@JustinPhillip]

An OLED monitor like this will be MUCH more reliable if you are in fact using it as a reference monitor for color grading. Atomos are toys compared to smallHD, IMO and in my experience.

[@beeftownz]

@@JustinPhillip aaagh! Duly noted! I have BIG Question at the end! I'm just scared cause apparently the shinobi has better build quality and I'm a clutz compared to these other youtubers. Also ive seen cracked focus's:( it could just be the fact that there's more in the wild. &I excitingly WILL be using it for reference. I did however just find a cage for the focus 5. Do you think that would be useful or useless when it comes to protecting the screen when its in storage say like in a bag on tour. I appreciate YOUR input. ONE MORE BIG BIIIIIG THING So.. oled is out of my price range. BUT!!!! (I know.. Excitement) BUT I did see am OLED focus 5 on sale with the caveat of it using SDI. Do you think pairing that with a black magic converter box would be a good lossless idea?

[@beeftownz]

@@JustinPhillip not to mention the HDR capabilities of the shinobi. Is that even important for the future?

[@JustinPhillip]

Jo Cr I wouldnt get the focus. I would get the 502 or 702 . Also, smallHD are known for making indestructible products, that’s just another reason they are used on so many professional sets. Check out their youtube page, they have whole videos of them just kicking their monitors around

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

Ohk my nmbr one reason for a having to get a monitor is... SIZE, the Bigger the better for focus pulling and exposure... but “my Second” nmbr ONE reason for getting a monitor is to maximize and SUPERCHARGE my cameras output... I need the best video, BETTER than my camera can bring to the table... I’m currently shooting with a Nikon d3100 , with all types of limitations, recording time limited 29min, 1080p, slow motion, etc... I need to be able to see exactly what it is that I’m ending up with while I’m recording, instead of having to wait to color grade , luts in post after the edit... so my question is... “”” My Nikon d3100 (an 8+yr old camera) will it do better paired with an Atomos Ninja V, exposure-wise, image-wise, luts, kodac, dynamic range, and all, will it unlock any performance ? “””

[@JustinPhillip]

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[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

Mannn, you just recomplicated everything all over again... lemme explain... first of all your review of the 702 oled was *awesome* but now I am on the fence again... atomos ninja v or small hd 702... smh, now I’ve got like a ton of questions... well maybe 5... and I’m doubtful on which one to get...

[@JustinPhillip]

smallHD will allow you to monitor the picture with pro level scopes. Something better than an atomos is the BMD HdR Video Assist

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

@@JustinPhillip just watched tht video you sent... I guess, I haven’t yet decided on which way to go yet-but thanks for the advice... I’m definitely subscribed and ranging the bell for more videos pls... #keepem #coming

[@JustinPhillip]

@@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE sweet man!

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

@@JustinPhillip I was just about to spend over $600 in just memory cards for the Atomos and almost $150 for the smallrig cage and sunhood... this ninja V is gonna be a costly upgrade... if I pull the trigger... I’m literally looking at almost $2000 recorder, batteries, charger, ssd cards, wires, mounts, cage, etc, etc... all included... Damnnn

[@dab7963]

300 Nit for that price. Sorry no way. It's 2020

[@joshuamartinstudios]

James Bandes it's Under $800 on b&h. I just ordered it

[@dab7963]

@@joshuamartinstudios that is a great price but no record and only 300 nit would not work for my workflow. Let me know what you think after you get it

[@frostybe3r]

@@joshuamartinstudios Atomos Ninja V is under $600 at the moment and records in 4K 4:2:2 HDR ProRes and has 1000NIT... It's not a stupidly oversized size either. How is this even a competition?

[@spetsovich]

I enjoy my fw279 1200nit! !!! LOL

[@JustinPhillip]

spetsovich 🤣I know you do!!! 🙌🏼

[@spetsovich]

@@JustinPhillip tft vs amoled, with the world's worst button placement! Lol

[@JustinPhillip]

spetsovich 🤣🤣 Whaaa???

[@spetsovich]

@@JustinPhillip feelworld fw279 7 in field monitor. You have to feel buttons when adjusting it, lol. Hence, feelworld.

[@JustinPhillip]

spetsovich HA! Never had one! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@MrBighairyass]

Atomos rocks...I love mine...

[@TheBlackJewelz]

What about the fan?...

[@rdanalytics9197]

@@TheBlackJewelz I use the Shinobi. I don't think it has a fan.

[@rdanalytics9197]

This guy is probably right, but he does this for a living. I'm just a hobbiest and the Atomos is fine for me. Most of the features he is pointing out are amazing, but only a professional would need most of that stuff.

[@TheBlackJewelz]

RD Analytics oh ok. I’m a bit of a hobbyist as well, though I do music videos and stuff. Is the monitor just as useful for taking photos?

[@MrBighairyass]

The Black Jewelz what camera do you use?

[@BadKarma714]

Good video Bro I will take you Atamos lol JK I wish I could afford a monitor/Recorder

[@JustinPhillip]

BadKarma 714 Dude, look on facebook market, you can get Atomos’ for $400 right now

[@BadKarma714]

@@JustinPhillip I do there's no one near me selling Atmos and 400 bucks is a good price but still can't Buy it 😔

[@Filmmaker809]

I agree with you on the OLED technology. But I feel SmallHD is missing the boat with not including recording capability. I`ll stick to my Atomos Ninja V for recording Pro-Res HQ. Plus the fact SmallHD monitors are way too expensive. I think 300NITS for that SmallHD is mean of SmallHD, should at least be 1000NITS.

[@JustinPhillip]

Shark Yea i think at the time, OLED was fairly new, so it probably would have pushed the price way too high. Their new focus OLEDs are brighter i believe. Seems weird they havent dropped the price on this one tho.

[@TheBlackJewelz]

How’s the fan noise for you?

[@JustinPhillip]

i dont ever recall it being an issue

[@Filmmaker809]

For the Ninja V?

[@BadKarma714]

300 Nits lol I am out of here lol JK I will never click off your videos bro I don't care what you say you can call me an A hole by name on a Video and I would just Lol and say yeah he said my name 😂

[@davidlovephotog2]

With a warranty of just one year, do not buy from smallhd. My focus just powered off and will not power on and out of warranty so garbage. Expensive doesn't mean pro.

[@JustinPhillip]

Yeah you know this video’s out dated, i myself had a bad experience with smallHD as well :(

[@briangoh2403]

@@JustinPhillip Hi! Would you mind to tell me a bit about your experiences with the smallhd 702 oled? I'm considering picking it up used. Thanks!