Atomos Ninja V vs. NEW Ninja and Ninja Ultra (in-depth comparison)

[@sankt.gabriel]

Drinking game: take a shot everytime he says „Ninja“.

[@Gpijus]

I hve liost auut ar rr rround 03:51

[@sankt.gabriel]

@@Gpijus :D:D

[@GS0CK6]

A minute in and I'm already drunk. And I don't even drink.

[@Team974]

I’m now dead

[@ohwowcreate]

i am drunk

[@tek_soup]

there is like barely any reviews/ info on this. thank you for doing your best.

[@kristurner8496]

You should absolutely upgrade, for $79.00. Since the release of this video, with the return of Jeromy Young, the decision was to release AtomOS11 for the original Ninja V and V+ (base OS11 with new GUI but no new features is free). For $79 (Ninja V) and $129 (Ninja V+), you receive it all - EL Zone, ARRI false color, SegmentPro, PlaybackAssist, RecordAssist, Wi-Fi 6 as well as the H.265 and ProRes RAW codecs bundled in for free! Ninja V+ owners also get Wi-Fi 6E, ProRes RAW Dual-Record and SDI Cine (these last are features for the Atomos Connect in combination).

[@ScreenFiends]

Many of the features on the new Ninjas are now available on the old model as of the most recent firmware. It will gice you the latest operating system and for $79 you'll get the other features like EL Zone.

[@handcraftedcinematography1238]

There are so few videos on the new Ninja Models! It's been so hard to find comprehensive coverage on what's new and if it's worth it. I appreciate the video!

[@VictorLaforteza]

Glad it helped share the info! I was looking for info before too and I thought it was a great coverage for everyone who's curious!!

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@VictorLaforteza Do you have any info/idea if the new ninja has less delay lag ? The old one was 150ms-300ms or more if I remember correctly .

[@VictorLaforteza]

​@@thesteammachine1282 still similar but slightly to the faster end

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@VictorLaforteza 👍👍

[@ScottJWaldron]

Great job on the video. How loud are the new ones compared to the original? At 4k30fps the original's fan can get pretty loud so I'm wonder if the new ones are quieter in 4k recording? Also, do the new ones get as hot to the touch at 4k? A lot of the time I do hands-on recordings where my rig is close to what I'm recording and have a microphone recording what I say. If the new ones are quieter that would be a nice plus.

[@VictorLaforteza]

From what I’ve noticed, all three are very similar in fan noise and heat build up!

[@ScottJWaldron]

@@VictorLaforteza thanks for the info

[@skyace888]

Thanks for the video. I have the original Ninja V and have used it occasionally with my Nikon Z6II. Just got a Z8 and Atomos hasn't officially announced support for Z8 (or Z9) so not sure if I'll upgrade (or at least wait a little bit).

[@makatron]

I'm in the same boat, z6ii and z8 on its way. Planning to shoot 8k for corporate gigs for flexibility.

[@SamHernandez27j]

Can I able to get 60fps ProRes raw with fx30 and the new ninja 5 regular version?

[@VictorLaforteza]

4k60, nope. And I’m not sure about 1080p! I think so! Try to check the spec sheets on their sites. It should say there!

[@JacobGagoOfficial]

Can you camera control your camera with this? like Touch to Focus too?

[@VictorLaforteza]

nope

[@JacobGagoOfficial]

@ dang! Thank you

[@JacobGagoOfficial]

@ what’s your thoughts on shinobi II now with the touch to focus working

[@nateichiban]

Did they fix or reinforce the screw posts near the battery screws that tend to break when using a heavy battery?

[@VictorLaforteza]

not sure but looks the same construction

[@contemarcula]

What USB chargner do I need for the Ninja V?

[@MariusMutin]

Any latency observed and measured between the cam and monitor?

[@invisibleadversary]

Does the Ultra do touch focus with the FX3?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Nope!

[@robmccune7949]

What if I don’t do dual recording and only record externally. Will cine EI record external 4k then?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes

[@MiguelDuarte-wx3hm]

Hi, I appreciate your insights. To get the most out of my sony a7IV and Lumix S5IIX, which one would you recommend.

[@VictorLaforteza]

You wont get Prores RAW out of the A7IV but any of these would be clutch with the S5IIX

[@SoJesusChristMusic]

My Ninja has all the codecs except for 1 RAW. But I guess if I send a RAW signal it will activate that option? I also can’t get mine to record 😒 Do I need to format the Atmos drive first? Also, which Samsung drive are you using. The guys told me that I couldn’t use any other external drives…only Atmos.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yeah you’d have to activate it. I used an Samsung evo 970 ssd! They have a list of compatible drives on their site. Not sure why it doesn’t record though. I’d reach out to their support!

[@SoJesusChristMusic]

@@VictorLafortezaI think I must format it first.

[@thesteammachine1282]

From curiosity, how do you delete the videos from the ssd ? Do I manually delete them from the pc as I dont see any option in the ninja to do so . Read a random comment that deleting them from the pc will make the ssd run slower with time and if you want to delete them, you have to format the ssd each time ? Is that true !?

[@cmd728]

If I get the new ninja for my fx30 and use it as a monitoring tool in UHD but still decide to record internal slog 3 will I mess up my footage? By mess up, I mean being tricked by my eyes while shooting and viewing the images through UHD and having an unexpected 4k image when I offload footage at home. I want to use it to preview luts and have a monitor while shooting.

[@evanvalenta7621]

When using the c2c workflow with the ninja v can you record ProRes simultaneously to the h.265 proxies going to the cloud? Is that limited to the ultra?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Limited to new ninja and the ultra. Ninja v can only do h.264 for proxies

[@chris_wsr]

Hi! Does the live view works without a wifi? Can you use the mobile data on an iPhone or how would that work? :) cheers!

[@VictorLaforteza]

It could work but you need the atomos credits and stuff because it all goes through their system.

[@aifotos]

Hey I have the fx30 and that problem that you mentioned does not happen to me. What I do is reacording only in the Ninja.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes, the problem only happens on dual recoding (internal and external) as showcased

[@megthegirlonfire]

were going to be using the Sony FX3 looking at this simce its not really practical price wise to buy SD cards that most are almost as Expensive as this monitor SSD for 1TB. We plan to do 4k 120fps and at the best file recording for best dynamic range and smoothest footage, interally record would be SCine pp5 or PP8, Gamma would be Cine also. but not recording under Cinema Log for coloring. i belive its the inbetween from Slog 3 and the full Cinema Log? (have to go back and look) but If we record only on this SSDmonitor, is it reliable enough??? With out any issues!? Thats why SD cards are the most reiable because no skipping footage and you can have all your correct settings. asking for your opiniom?

[@andrewlutes2048]

Does it record ProRes RAW from an FX3 in 24.00? (As opposed to 23.98.) Or was that Sony holding that up on the Ninja V rather than Atomos?

[@VictorLaforteza]

yeah you need to set the frame rate at DCI 4k 24p and the ninja v will recognize and record 24fps too

[@Soneur]

Thank you for this video !! What monitor do you recommend to get the best out of my FX3 ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

You can’t go wrong with any of them! Basically very similar now. You can get the paid firmware upgrade for the older units. Makes them all similar unless you do Camera to cloud.

[@Soneur]

Great, thank you very much for your quick response, I'm thinking of heading towards the new ninja because the ultra would perhaps be over kill for an FX3 @@VictorLaforteza

[@Bobbylopezcreative]

Smaller and less colorful icons and slower boot times. Great job átomos. 👍

[@TaoCovillault]

I didn't use Ninja's but I am considering getting one as a first monitor. One some tho, what happens if you shoot 4k 50 or 60p ? Does the monitor still shows the video or does it turns black ? And, is it possible to plug the Ninja(s) to the HDMI output of the Macbook Pro, to use it as an external monitor (thinking about multimonitor editing on Final Cut :P) Thank you 🙏✨

[@lowIQstuff]

I was wondering if it's possible to connect a Ninja to Hasselblad X2D (which doesn't have video recording capabilities nor does it have a HDMI), is there a way to connect and record via wifi or usb-c?

[@mick0matic]

Nope, it dont do usb C. SATA all the way unfortunately. Aparently they still think its 2005 at Atomos.

[@dettrax]

Which one would you recommend for a person who has a a6400 at the moment but will be upgrading to the FX3 in the future.

[@VictorLaforteza]

The new ninja would work best I think since it’ll future proof the updates as well!

[@dettrax]

@@VictorLaforteza thank you! This is actually the only video that compares the two.

[@timdanyo898]

Curious if the new and ultra drink batteries like the OG?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yeah, same hardware and added features so it drains it a bit more. You can connect to a v mount to mitigate it though

[@wah0wah]

Will SSD caddys for Ninja V work with the new Ninja?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes

[@jxdinvests8318]

I am filming on a Sony A7S3 camera. If I shoot on 4K 120FPS, Which monitor can playback this footage? Not looking for internal recording

[@VictorLaforteza]

It will playback but it’ll be on 4k60. It still looks decent for viewing purposes

[@themrmanny24]

The Log formats (Cine EI, Flexible ISO) are only available in 4K output resolution if RAW Output is set to On under HDMI Output Settings (which locks you in ProRes RAW which isn’t compatible with DaVinci Resolve…) It is strange that Log is restricted to HD when RAW Output is turned Off You have the right idea though, changing a Picture Profile to SLog3, SGamut3 Cine (with Detail set at -7 to make it accurate) does the trick!

[@VictorLaforteza]

Only on dual recording though but otherwise if you’re just outputting to external (raw or non raw) it’ll output 4k.. once you turn on internal media recording you’d just have HD to the ninja.. sad but the workaround does pretty well!

[@kylophoto.3377]

I just want to shoot ProRes raw is there any different between them because if not I'll go with the old one

[@VictorLaforteza]

EL zone, Arri False Colour, and specific C2C functions

[@NadimALMallah]

i dont know if u updated the info but if u set the RAW OUT ( ON ) U WILL RECORED on both log

[@VictorLaforteza]

That’s right it only works in raw mode but it doesn’t work on ProRes. I don’t always need to shoot Raw. It’s still a small issue when you’re just monitoring at 1080 when you’re supposed to be getting 4k out.

[@wildpatagoniafilms16]

Great vid mate! Questions... 🤔 I am shooting with the R5C... is the "old' Ninja the original Ninja V+ ? if so... the new Ninja is superior in features than the older V+ ? (I think the 5+ allows 8K30...). So 🤔 to use it with the R5C, you think I can get away with the old Ninja, or the new one or the 'Ultra" would give me more options (8K pro Ress raw) and other festures as "pre record" 9I do lots of nature) and better Timelapse options... ? Thanks in advance. Cheers!

[@VictorLaforteza]

I’d say the scheduled Timelapse would be good for you but it’s basically the old units plus the new features which you can get as a paid add on instead of buying the new models! The ninja+ also gives you the 8k raw if the camera is compatible but ya quite confusing 🤪 but basically they’re the old ninja units but with added features.. nothing new about the hardware! hope that helps 🫡

[@TheAugusts]

Hey Victor, can you provide some clarity on the filename matching? I'm wondering when externally and internally recording at the same time, will the filenames match on the Ninja, or just the Ninja Ultra? You mentioned over SDI? If I use HDMI the file names will be different, and there wont be a convenient way to sync the footage? Hope that makes sense! Thank you!

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yeah mostly for high end cine cams with SDI! Hdmi we won’t be able to get the info out from the camera.

[@TheAugusts]

@@VictorLaforteza Okay, thank you!

[@7ofUs]

Is internet required for wireless transmission between monitors or was that just stream related?

[@VictorLaforteza]

internet is required. It's through their cloud subscription.

[@YoussefHallouly]

Sorry but i gotta ask, whats the font you used for your thumbnail?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Nt Wagner!

[@YoussefHallouly]

@@VictorLafortezahell yeah! Thanks :P

[@_markersfilm]

Is it possible to record ProRes RAW with the Atomos Connect, and can files created as proxies be sent to the cloud while recording ProRes RAW?

[@VictorLaforteza]

yes it's the main feature of their camera to cloud. Check if it's part of their free plan but most of the cloud stuff is under their subscription plan

[@_markersfilm]

@@VictorLaforteza Thank you for your response. I have another question: if the size of the raw format exceeds 4K, for example, can the Panasonic S1H's 5.9K raw also record while generating proxy files through dual recording?

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@_markersfilm I'm not quite sure tbh I haven't tested it out on any panasonic cameras. I did get proxies with the raw 4.7K on the FX3 and FX30! Maybe it's the same with the S1H? Hope that helps!

[@_markersfilm]

It was a great help. Thank you for your valuable answer.

[@_markersfilm]

​@@VictorLaforteza I'd like to ask an additional question. Does this feature also work identically on the Ninja V, apart from the New Ninja and Ninja Ultra?

[@TheAugusts]

When you record internally and externally with Sony cams does it record to both sd cards and the monitor at the same time? Or just one sd card and the monitor? Thanks!

[@VictorLaforteza]

both works actually! single or dual internal recording + external recording.

[@TheAugusts]

@@VictorLaforteza amazing! Thank you

[@sicilyusa83]

@@VictorLaforteza I am trying everything to simultaneously recons on my fx30 and ninja ultra but no results! Do you have any guide??

[@GiantRobolove]

Didn't know you were that much into Gunpla. Can't remember your older videos showing them off until recently when you got into that new studio space. Way to go 😎

[@VictorLaforteza]

Ayyy!! I watch your videos 🙌🏽 ya I recently got into it and went in hard hahah finishing my third one soon

[@GiantRobolove]

@@VictorLaforteza Wow, I am humbled! If you have any questions regarding ins and outs let me know :) I stumbled across your channel when I was looking for FX30 content and your video about the rig caught my attention. Ever since then I was working on building up my rig and checked back here once in a while, since I like your style.

[@VictorLaforteza]

do you have IG?! let's connect!!@@GiantRobolove

[@jbe1official]

I’m having problems with it. I’m getting firmware errors each time I turn it on. I returned it and was given a new one and it’s still the same. Do you have any idea of what’s going on?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Probably a bad batch I’d return and get a different brand instead

[@Racontemoilascene]

Hey man ! Thanks for the video. I just bought one, and the record "button" is greyed out. Any idea about what to do ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

make sure the trigger on both the atomos and your camera is set to timecode!

[@treypride3262]

I can't get mine ultra to update or record to monitor! Need help tried everything

[@iKIMshuffle]

For a Leica SL2-s, would you recommend a Ninja V or Ninja V Ultra?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Not sure actually, I’m not familiar with Leica’s external recording output

[@iKIMshuffle]

@@VictorLaforteza I have no idea either. Just one morning, I decided to check the video capability and when I tried it says I need HDMI. Didn’t quite understand what it meant but now I kind of do. Now, I was just thinking if my camera would even be needed something so advance that it won’t able to utilize it anyway

[@iKIMshuffle]

@@VictorLaforteza had this about two years now and just now ventured to the cine side and I realized, I can’t shoot raw and it says it needs hdmi output

[@devincorboy8638]

Will we be able to buy EL zones and arri exposure tools for the original ninja V?

[@VictorLaforteza]

not sure but I'm really hoping so!

[@Dezdirectz]

No

[@426Studios]

is the dual recording with log mode already fixed?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Nope

[@426Studios]

@@VictorLaforteza How about Sony A7s3? Can it dual record in 4k?

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@426Studiosif it’s on the old sony menu, yes!

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@VictorLaforteza From curiosity, how can you power the new ninja from the wall(no battery) ? It only comes with a pd to usb c cable . Do you use a usb c charger or something ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@thesteammachine1282 yeah a usbc charger would work. Not sure if it needs a powerful one or any usbc charger

[@RodCine]

Why is mine not activated only dnr is available on my list.??? I have the gold ninja

[@VictorLaforteza]

you'd have to activate it online. It's a process... :/

[@johnnyweissmuller5838]

Is the fan still loud? Does it still get steaming hot?

[@VictorLaforteza]

still the same performance as before.

[@cooooldude2k7]

Such a fantastically detailed in depth review. subbed.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

Now the video needs an update. Atomos has decided to upgrade the Atomos Ninja V/V+ with a base free OS 11 with companion OS11 Feature Pack that can be purchased to bring all the extra features. While the Ninja V/V+ are End of Sale, clearly not end of support and with the software upgrade available not necessarily a need to purchase new hardware at this time.

[@SebasSant87]

Awesome vid! Hey, does the new ninja is compatible with the AtomX multicam stream thingy?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Should work! Maybe not external recording tho

[@chaptersev7enstudios]

Anyway to stop the cropping with the atomos connected to the camera?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I don't have crop on mine, what camera do you use?

[@chaptersev7enstudios]

@@VictorLaforteza FX30

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@chaptersev7enstudios weird, I don't notice any crop on mine! Make sure HDMI CTRL INFO is off to get a clean feed to your monitor

[@chaptersev7enstudios]

@@VictorLaforteza yea I have that off. Idk, maybe I have to tinker with it more

[@screammachineman]

I'm confused about the Sony 4K. I shoot 4K SLOG3 internally at the moment, no monitor. If I wanted to record externally to the Atomos in 4K, I can't? Or I can?

[@VictorLaforteza]

You can. The issue is only dual recording.

[@screammachineman]

@@VictorLaforteza But that's what I'm trying to ask but I'm failing to lol. Can I record internally in SloG3 like I always do...and record externally in SlOG 3 to Atmos all things being in 4K60p?

[@livestreamchicagoevents9987]

Is there a touch to focus feature on Ninja V+ ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Nope

[@azyzmakhavi1139]

There were many complaints that the Atomos Ninja V screen could not serve as a good color assessment tool. The fact is that its screen had a slightly distorted color rendering. It displayed everything in warmer, yellow tones than it actually was. Does the new Atomos Ninja have this problem?

[@VictorLaforteza]

same with the new models

[@32SIX]

hey man great review! Has sony fixed the Slog 3 problem yet? this is really annoying :(

[@VictorLaforteza]

nope.. not at all haha.

[@32SIX]

@@VictorLaforteza :( that really sucks man…

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@32SIX still waiting for them to get 4k our of SLOG shooting mode... sad times

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@VictorLaforteza From curiosity, how do you delete the videos from the ssd ? Do I manually delete them from the pc as I dont see any option in the ninja to do so . Read a random comment that deleting them from the pc will make the ssd run slower with time and if you want to delete them, you have to format the ssd each time ? Is that true !?

[@Qtr.Prophoto]

You mentioned that you aren’t able to upload 4k h.265 (C2C) , but I can’t find any subscription that allows the 4K upload, can you please explain how to make it work plz 🙏🙏

[@VictorLaforteza]

It’s the highest subscription they have. It’s not listed yet on the Atomos cloud studio but it does prop off 4k h265 to the cloud. You then can switch the setting to 4k on the Atomos cloud studio

[@Qtr.Prophoto]

@@VictorLaforteza thx for your great help, literally the only one who did talk and explain this on youtube 👏 , keep up the great work

[@theoell2049]

Can you touch to focus with Canon cameras?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Only used it on Sony cameras but I assume no as well!

[@pawelwajde]

Which font do you use (this yellow one)?

[@VictorLaforteza]

nt wagner

[@MANGO-FILM]

Hi Victor, thanks for this video. How about time code? Is there a diffence between the three?

[@VictorLaforteza]

time code is the same for all three!

[@MANGO-FILM]

@@VictorLaforteza thanks

[@KamalHarrassePositive]

Can we please have a full guide on ninja ultra How to set it up with Sony fx30 And use ssd card Samsung 860 evo Like a step by step

[@VictorLaforteza]

Gerald undone has a full step by step on the ninja v. The ninja ultra is 90% the old ninja v

[@KamalHarrassePositive]

@@VictorLaforteza thanks a lot

[@mariammayi6483]

Where can I get the Ninja Ultra?

[@shaunZ96]

so which one is the Ninja V+?

[@VictorLaforteza]

not included as I don't have that one. sorry!

[@bobhuynh1974]

Do the newer Ninjas have a pinch to zoom the image on the monitor?

[@VictorLaforteza]

nope! only have the 100% and 200% zoom

[@bobhuynh1974]

@@VictorLaforteza Thanks for replying. That's unfortunate, I wish my original Ninja V had a pinch to zoom function.

[@definingslawek4731]

@@bobhuynh1974 I suppose the chip is too slow to do it, which would explain why its even slower to boot.

[@edjela]

So you telling me that I'm buying a monitor that I can't use to record internal 4k on my sony camera on pp8 while using the ninja as a regular monitor?????

[@VictorLaforteza]

You still can do it. The only issue is dual recording in prores (not raw)

[@JamCinema-f6z]

I'm pretty sure you can send slog 4k to the atamos you just can't record internally and externally at the same time you can only record external.

[@VictorLaforteza]

that's what I was mentioning.

[@ronbackal]

That's very good information, thank you! I feel my Sony FX3 internal footage just doesn't hold grading well, especially if I try to grade for HDR.

[@VictorLaforteza]

FX3's internal footage should hold well as long as you're not pushing it too hard like shifting reds to blue!

[@juansalenko]

Maybe I missed something here, but I shot with my FX3 and the old Ninja a few months ago in Slog-3 and my clip on the Ninja seems to be 4264x2408. At least the clip in my camera was S-log3

[@VictorLaforteza]

What version is your fx3? And are you filming in log shooting mode? Also, would you be filming in RAW as opposed to ProRes? That's where the problem lies.. shooting ProRes externally while recording internal

[@juansalenko]

@@VictorLaforteza Been so long since I change settings, but I am in log shooting setting, where I have flexibel ISO, tbh I'm not sure about my exact settings but I always shoot S-log and then add LUTs. I am now in latest FW but always done that way. I do record both on the Ninja and in the camera at the same time. I don't use my Ninja that often tho. I tend to mainly use the files on my Card and not from the Ninja anyway, its more like I'm trying it a bit

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@juansalenko sounds great let me know! maybe they have fixed it on the latest firmware. I'm really hoping so!

[@MushtaqHussainofficial]

Very good explanation but with Sony fx3 and 35mm T2.9 Full frame cine lens must be very good.

[@dcmk_629]

Does it support fx3 external recording 24.00p?

[@francis2339]

yes

[@FollowTheJohn]

I love your comprehensive review. I have the Ninja 5V and it is MEH. I only say that because I can not do touch focus on the display like I can on my Sony A7s iii. It is hard to believe that Atomos cannot write software that allows this function.

[@VictorLaforteza]

I wish it had that function as well!!

[@rvoykin]

Great review, you answer all the questions someone would have on the benefits of getting the new version or not! Its so annoying to pay for services on a device you already own and paid for. They give you deliberately an unacceptable version of a service (720p for example) and have to pay to get a usable quality and it’s BS. So sick of getting subscription fee’d to DEATH!

[@vladyslavlitvin8200]

Is the noise level of the new Ninja the same as the Ninja V?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes same

[@vladyslavlitvin8200]

@@VictorLaforteza And the same heating? I just don't understand the difference between a Ninja V, considering what the Ninja V got OS 11.

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@vladyslavlitvin8200 yep same product just different features. You're only paying the the new Cloud features if you go with the new one especially if you get the paid firmware update. That's the only difference :D

[@Th3wobbler]

Okay can it record 4k ProResRAW externally and sLOG internally at the same time? (A7siii)

[@VictorLaforteza]

yes, that it can do!

[@bloodswarms]

Maybe my brain is just rotted, but I'm taking it that if I have a Sony A7 IV I can't record log footage to the SSD in the Ninja Ultra?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I think ProRes you can but raw you cannot

[@andersistbesser]

Why you dont mentioned the price? Its very important to decide which one to buy.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Listed on the web

[@dariusrevera7809]

you need to enable RAW out...

[@VictorLaforteza]

I think you missed the point. The problem is dual recording with different codecs on the ninja. Not all the time I want to shoot in RAW on the ninja and again, this works before the LOG shooting mode update.

[@AtomosChannel]

Thanks for this amazing and comprehensive video Victor! Well Done!

[@VictorLaforteza]

Many thanks! It was a blast testing and getting to know the new products in and out!

Now that you are offering OS11 and the Feature Pack for the V and V+ can you tell us if there are any hardware differences between V and the new model or V+ and the new Ultra model? There seems to be no information about whether you will get a better experience/extra features with the new models and they look identical... Cheers!

[@MLee-vcrr]

I just upgraded my Ninja V to the new one. Atomos has a special right now for $79.00. If you switch your old Ninja V to OS 11(Free) and buy the H.265 codec, you now have the new Ninja. I did have some issues with the tokens at first but Atomos corrected the problem. I'm still testing it but so far it works great now.

[@rameshsk702]

atomos didn't change the HDMI port placement. it should be bottom to avoid cumbersome cable

[@definingslawek4731]

Atomos ninja is the only gear to have ever failed me on a shoot, I had 'skippy' the kangaroo symbol meaning the 'media was too slow' but I was using the 5 x mark up from retail 'angel bird' ssd so the media wasn't too slow. This new one looks cool and I'm considering getting it but idk after getting burned like that.

[@VictorLaforteza]

😢😢 sorry to hear about your experience with the ninja! I’m still taking the new one into productions and see how it is. Only time will tell if it does do great long term!

[@hellolau]

Same…

[@JensMowatt]

Yeah, it's happened once to me. I always dual record externally and internally because of that issue. I think it's maybe due to the card slowing down when it's almost full? Or perhaps overheating?

[@countdracula2533]

Can they record 1080p 30fps?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yup!

[@KeithSklower]

@@VictorLaforteza The monitor supports 1080p 30fps, but some cameras will not output it (like the Sony A7S3). I have both that and an older lumix S1 which quite happily outputs 1080p 30fps.

[@stevenv.gwarlock2078]

The Ninja V got the OS 11 update very recently. It's optional so if you want to stay on OS 10 you can, but OS 10 updates will stop ;-)

[@VictorLaforteza]

yup! paid firmware update is out!

[@solidroc7entertainment49]

False colors is on the ninja v correct?

[@VictorLaforteza]

On all of them! the new products have three types of false colour

[@BryceMiguelWilliams]

Great Video! Is anyone else bothered by the gold color of the Ninja V and Ultra models? Why couldn't they make them black or let us choose?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I had the same thoughts in the beginning but it grew on me! BUT ALSO if I was dealing with product shoots that have reflections... I'd definitely prefer black over gold.

[@jeffszurgot]

So it's not worth upgrade?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Depends what you need in a monitor

[@BrandonTalbot]

Had they updated the Brightness of the screen I would have grabbed one.

[@VictorLaforteza]

I would've loved that as well. Would help on bright sunny days!

[@michelluong1208]

Hi, I have a question. My camera is connected to my new ninja but it is not using the full screen of the ninja. How do I change the setting to use the full screen of my monitor? Thank you!

[@VictorLaforteza]

you should turn off HDMI info display! That's if you have a Sony camera. Other brands, I'm not too sure how to do.

[@jamilrosarioarias1597]

What makes ARRI FC better than the atomos FC??

[@VictorLaforteza]

It’s measured by middle grey and light stop values. You can do a search about EL zone or arri fc why cinematographers use it

[@AlexMelendez]

Does the EL zone & arri false colour come included in the new ninja/ninja ultra or do u have to pay for them like the old ninja v?

[@VictorLaforteza]

they come included on the new ones.

[@wenjun_n]

Awesome video! Can you also do one on the newly updated shogun and shogun ultra?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Thanks! I'll see if I can!

[@GoddSpeed]

Im Confused, so the Brown One is the Ninja V? I Ordered the Ninja V and they sent me a Browon one ...

[@VictorLaforteza]

Nah, the black is the ninja V and then brown ones are the ninja and ninja ultra. It’s quite confusing at first

[@GoddSpeed]

@@VictorLaforteza So the Brown one is Better than the Ninja V (Black One) ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes

[@7thHill112]

Wait what? They charge you per hour to use it as a wireless transmitter? That's horrendous

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yeah, most of their new wireless features require the connect module then a subscription or credits.

[@Swole_Cole_]

Like the $800 ninja ultra and the $400 connect wasn’t enough. Companies are only out here to rob people with subscriptions now. They don’t care about customers.

[@OFFBUCKS]

They need revamp the build of the monitor . The screws and pins that hold back of monitor in place are made really cheap and I hope they did something different with new one

[@jr_productions91]

Bro, thanks for letting me know about the new models. I was about to buy the old one! Nice comparison video!

[@VictorLaforteza]

🙌🏽🙌🏽 EL zone is good on the new models

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@VictorLaforteza Do these (old or new model) have the ability to manually place at what bitrate you want to capture cmpress ? Lets say 1080p at 60 000?

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@thesteammachine1282 nope on both new and old!

[@thesteammachine1282]

@@VictorLaforteza Thank you. Still, are there any good compression settings in the atomos in order not to get a blown out 10min = 100gb videos ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@thesteammachine1282 you can do the h.265! It'll be compressed but you already have that internally from your camera. ProRes will always be super large files unfortunately :( even the RAW will be bigger too

[@morello90]

FINALLY an in-depth video about the new Ninja. I was wondering why there was pratically nothing out there... THANK YOU! One question if I may.: I have the new Ninja on my Canon R6 ii and for some reason EL-Zone and Arri false color are both disabled (grey) and I cant switch to them. Do you have by chance any clue why this would be? I might have to contact Atomos about this.

[@VictorLaforteza]

You’re welcome! And for the question hmmm I’m not too sure.. check the little settings in terms of inputs and your external monitor settings for the r6! Maybe there’s something there that’s causing it. Aside from that, check with Atomos!

[@morello90]

@@VictorLaforteza Thanks man. It was indeed "hidden" in the input tab. I had to activate "LOG/HDR" over "Legalize". I understand that gives me less acurate colors on the live preview, which shouldn't matter when I rely on false colors for exposure anyhow?! Is that somewhat correct? 🤣

[@gkochanowsky]

Why Atomos? Why? They figured out how to stream to the cloud but couldn't figure out how to stream to a USB drive? And still with the standard form factor SSD drives? It's like they are oblivious to what is happening to storage in the 2020's.

[@VictorLaforteza]

definitely would be nice to have other options

[@definingslawek4731]

You'd rather to m.2 drives yeah? Also clearly the chip isn't faster cause it boots even slower than before.

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

EL Zones + 8K Raw support make the Ultimate the obvious choice for me!

[@MikeBSalazar]

Bro. The atomos ninja ultra looks cool and all but that luffy really caught my eye. I just started One Piece a month ago and I’m hooked. I have Demon Slayer figurines that I shoot samples from sometimes but I’m gonna find me some One Piece figurines hahaha. Great video though hehe

[@VictorLaforteza]

hahaha we got it from one of the claw machines in Japan!! I think that one took more than 10 times... lol I was hoping to get the gyutaro vibration stars version but ran out of coins..

[@MikeBSalazar]

@@VictorLaforteza Dang! That's so cool! I say it was worth it haha. Then again, hard to get that stuff here in States

[@AnonymousOG]

Why do you start out your video saying "hello everyone" in Mandarin?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I live in Taiwan and it's the language here

[@jamieandrei]

Why didn't they just push an update out for EL Zones etc? This is silly.. OS / UX is a simple sortware update..

[@VictorLaforteza]

That definitely would’ve been nice