Orchid identification - Encyclia chacoensis.. oh no :(

[@adiposerex5150]

I have Anacheilium (Encyclia) radiata which looks like yours. Mine has ovoid bulbs that taper to strappy leaf pairs. It blooms between these leaves. The scent starts as hyacinth and ends as carcass. It fills a room. It is beautiful.

[@helleasc]

It's a funny thing about fragrances. I have a Dendrobium Green Wonder, and it has a wonderful honey-like fragrance, then my kingianum, it should have a honey-like fragrance, too. But we had it in our bedroom and during the day it smelled like pee - really, I was happy to see the flowers drop in the end, even if it was a nice blooming. The most delicious fragrance, I've ever had on one of my orchids is a Noid Dendrobium Nobile. I was sent a keiki from one of my orchid friends, and today - one year later, it blooms with clusters of beautiful flowers, no fuss, no cool period and no dry season, it just blooms and the fragrance is mouthwatering delicious. I have the Encyclia fragrans, at least I hope, and it's spiking now with dozens of flowers. It's quite exciting to find out, if it's the right one. The spots on the leaves is something, a lot of Encyclia are prone to get. I think, it's a fungal infection, but if it doesn't get any worse, never mind. My cochleata was severely infected, but is now treated. My alata is not susceptible to any diseases, it's just blooming ;)

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I love nobile fragrances too :D the spots on my encyclia are mites damage actually. But they stopped when mites were gone :)

[@judithsarcochilus1080]

The flowers are cute - especially the little yellow eyes. And I love your description of the fragrance - it is very clear to me what it smells like (yuck!!). Good luck finding the one you wanted!

[@MissOrchidGirl]

haha well it was the only thing that came to my mind, a horse stable :))) an uncleaned one..

[@ramonanagy8320]

I am crying from laugh, I purchased the same from Schwerter last autumn :D It was on discount for 3 Euro, and till now I hardly waited to bloom, but after you say it smells like horse poop, I just don't want it to bloom anymore :D The funny part is, that I am in love with its roots and the plant itself is gorgeous. So let's hope it will never bloom...

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh no, I hope you won't perceive like that though :)

[@ramonanagy8320]

:D i am just kidding. I will love it when it blooms finally, right now she grows two new bulbs :)

[@biffybilliamson]

Oh no, I still don't know what I have. It wasn't in your video. Mine only flowered once when I got it from the store. It flowered like the D variety it has very long leaves that are thin and sort of look like grass. It has very large bulbs at the base. It hasn't flowered at all in 4 years. I had no idea it couldn't be in dirt. So I'll repot it tomorrow. Hopefully I can find out what it is and get it to flower again. The flowers were gorgeous when I first saw it. It had multiple flower spikes.

[@moonshadow2319]

I have a epic. Green Hornet new only 2 months in my care. I hope it blooms looks good. I have seven phals in spike now wish me luck. Thank for all your help. I found you after my first purchase. Two years ago 40 plants later two death over wateing in moss,no bugs. Now the round balls made of clay with charcoal inside with bark works for me. I Have winters cold and hot summer. I'm looking forward to blooms in winter.

[@denisehofer1229]

Very interesting orchid, thank you for sharing. Hopefully the vendor will replace with the correct plant for you.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I hope so but I don;t think they have a correct labeled one hehe :P

[@birdluvrs]

I had to laugh at your description of this plant's fragrance.."horse poop" :) Maybe you should consider purchasing an Encyclia Radiata - mine is in bloom currently and it's fragrance is wonderfully intoxicating!

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Thanks for the tip I will look out for it, sounds lovely :D well mine really does smell like a barn :((

[@1974supap]

Hi Danny there are three kinda encyclia, prostechea, or anacheilum (this are the always changing names ) the chacoensis with two leaves, the fragrans, and the aemulum wich is exactly like fragrans but buds come out when the pseudobulb is not mature yet. I have bloom the aemulum, the flower open kinda greenish but turns white when the flower mature, fragrance for me is like jazmin and gardenias, also i have the chacoensis but i cannot make it bloom yet so.. will see. But i can tell you that the flowers looks the same in the those three types of orchids. sorry to hear you hate the smell because those flowers are long, long, long lasting. SALUDOS from Peru!

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Oh dear indeed they seem to be long lasting :)) maybe the smell will change in the next few days :)) and yes as far as I understand from www.orchidspecies.com/anachacoense.htm it seems that 3 are very common species in the trade that get mixed up.

[@ΕλεναΔ]

Don't worry about the fragrant Danny she is beautiful !!!!! Maybe close your nose when you are so close : )))))

[@MissOrchidGirl]

haha I need a mask for it :P

[@aribh4929]

lol, the flower looks like a tiny angry owl sitting in the lip

[@MissOrchidGirl]

hahaha aw that sounds sweet :P

[@afanofosc]

I got a rescue orchid at a recent Orchid Society meeting that was labeled "Epi Fragrance". It looks a lot like yours and the one flower that unexpectedly bloomed smells spicy/sweet and quite nice. The flower is less than 1" wide and seems to have a hinged lip. I guess it must be a chacoensis. Perhaps the scent will go bad after a while.

[@felixcuche]

Wow, I have Prosthechea madrensis, their flowers are almost identical to chacaoensis, but pseudobulbs are with egg shape, little bit flattened. The flowers smell marvelous, but its difficult describe, is like... vainilla soap, maybe. I'm surprise that chacaoensis smells Bad. Greetings from Mexico.

[@indoororchidsandtropicals358]

I saw this video and recently got the book" the cattelyas and their relatives: the debatable epidendrums" which...well there are A LOT of species that appear like your orchid. However- there is an identification key, and I throught I'd give a crack at it and see if I can come up with any results. But I think I'll need additional info- size of the flower and segments in mm, the color of the lines (your desc. says purple but they look more brown on video, so a close look at this could be helpful. Is it more brown, red, purple...) the height of the pseudobulbs, length and width of leaves, if it blooms on immature or fully mature growths, color of the back sides of the flowers, and the number of flowers, length of inflo, number of pseudobulb sheaths, does it climb, distance of rhizome (long or creeping). Also, is the lip lobed on the sides (kind of looks that way on video)? The pseudobulbs on chacoensis in the book are very much more round and squat, more like alata, but still compressed. Oh yeah, and are they grooved or smooth?Is there any grayish tinge to the vegetative parts (glacous) Of course, it looks like a younger plant and size and number of flowers and pseudobulbs and even number of leaves can change (many unifoliate cattleyas are capable of growing 2 leaves, especially when younger, so it's not too far of a stretch to think encyclias may do the same.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Oh ok so: the veins are really purple not brown, psb are pretty high and not rounded, elongated rather and blooms on mature psb, short spikes, 2-3 blooms for me.. but it might do more, back petals is.. buttery greenish white, psb are smooth, no gray tinge, green but light, 2 leaves on each cane. As I know radiata has more than 2 and fragrans has only one. The chacoensis has only 2, according to orchidspecies.com Any ideas?

[@pabloalvareztostado3654]

Mmm... I have a Chacaoensis and it doesn't smell badly at all, also its pseudobulbs are a little more rounded but the flower is ptractically identical, the problem is they're very similar (p. trulla, p. chacaoensis, p. baculus, p. chondylobulbon, etc.) in any case, these are not considered Encyclias anymore but Prosthecheas. In the Encyclias you can move the lip and pull it down, while you can't do that on a Prosthechea

[@pabloalvareztostado3654]

I have this pics plus.google.com/photos/115093536178335859967/albums/6289147679150861873

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Actually it's not called a Prostechea :) check description or www.orchidspecies.com/anachacoense.htm oh these name changes I am getting tired of them..

[@pabloalvareztostado3654]

Taxonomy changes are a nightmare indeed! I don't know who is the "authority" on this matter but in any case if you check on the link you shared, they are considered synonyms but prosthechea is from 1997 while encyclia is from 1971. Perhaps we could agree on the following formula: e". chacaoensis AKA p. chacaoensis... :)

[@MatsHalldin]

Interesting, I bought the same plant from Schwerter. Will relabel it Missorchidensis poohorsiada. :P

[@MissOrchidGirl]

bhahahaha oh my that actually sounds awesome :P if I will ever name an orchid it would be that, Missorchidensis :))) lol at the poohorsiada.. suggestion: poohorsiata :P

[@army1206]

I think I have the same plant that has bloomed recently. It was miss labeled as enc. radiata, but it smells like horse poop. Hopefully my unifoliate enc. fragrans seedling won't be a disappointment when it blooms.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh if it's unifoliate it might really be the fragrans :D thanks for confirming the poop smell :)

[@dimitrikeller5979]

I got a prostechea cochleata from them too and it turned out to be a radiata... Mislabelled maybe... But it was in bloom when I got it and the two flowers aren't similar...

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Did it smell bad? was it this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6fNlZWlq6qYd5Y

[@dimitrikeller5979]

+MissOrchidGirl it looks like your chacoensis but doesn't smell bad to me, smells like honey that you would have put under the sun too long (isn't that poetic?😂) well my point is: Schwerter, not good at labelling prostecheas! But we still love them

[@MissOrchidGirl]

haha yeah.. I got 2 or 3 more.. or 4 more mislabeled from them though so.. getting a bit worried :P

[@orquinonos6552]

At first I thought it was Prosthechea radiata, but the sepals and petals are more rounded, they don't have that pointy end to them. So I think it's a Prosthechea chacoensis.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Actually it has been renamed to something else :) check description ;)

[@samuelmondragon248]

Hi Danny, Prosthechea radiata, it grows here in Mexico. :-)

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I actually think it's this www.orchidspecies.com/anachacoense.htm how does the radiata smell?

[@samuelmondragon248]

It smells exactly like you describe in your video.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

ok thank you! :D

[@Misslou2425]

Hmm...it must be sn encyclia thing...what are those spots on its leaves? My enc. radiata has a few spots like those as well!

[@Misslou2425]

**an**

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh those are leftovers from spider mite attacks. but they are a secondary infection I think. they are not spreading though are they?

[@Misslou2425]

+MissOrchidGirl one leaf...when I first got it just 3-4wks ago, had 3 spots. It was shipped bare root from Ecuagenera ( Ecuador) to the USA...long trip with 2 other orchids. THAT leaf has since gotten about 8 more spots! Just tiny brown spots. I sprayed with fungicide--- hoping for the best.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh ok let me know what happens!

[@damianleza1407]

There’s fragrans growing wild in Trinidad and in my opinion they smell like women’s perfume but they only have one leaf on the pseudo bulb

[@CarolinePOviedo]

I had that orchid also I brought it from Nicaragua 😍 mine doesn't smell bad

[@MissOrchidGirl]

hmmm.. maybe it's my nose to blame? hmmm I'll make my bf smell it lol

[@helcio8852]

Isn't it the Prosthechea / Encyclia ionophlebia? I have one of these.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I have reasons to believe it's this :) www.orchidspecies.com/anachacoense.htm

[@nickshah9364]

Lol it's funny that you want the encyclia fragrans as that orchid is actually a wild orchid growing in my neighbors mango tree and the sir of the plant itself is really big. It is very common here but some people find it had to grow. I personally haven't got to growing it myself yet.

[@nickshah9364]

size not sir

[@MissOrchidGirl]

hehe some parts of the world are not so lucky and we find them pretty rare around these parts.. and mislabeled it seems pfff :) how does it smell though?

[@nickshah9364]

+MissOrchidGirl the scent is one that I'll have to get back to you on but I know that it's a scent that fulls up the room.

[@nickshah9364]

my country has few local orchids. when some that I have bloom I'll send a short video of it

[@clarkjamelle]

Hello, Dani. I was wondering what do you clean your Orchid Foliage with?

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Hi, I usually use lemon juice and water if I have salt strains, here is a video on it kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ-zZGd9Z5qAhc0

[@naturalPianoadastra]

The flower is quite pretty indeed!! Not a fan of the Encyclia though... In latin -ch is pronounced as "k" and usually -oe as "ay" ... so you were half right! ;)

[@MissOrchidGirl]

lol a mix of english and latin I guess :P so kasensis?

[@naturalPianoadastra]

ahah it's the first phonetic that popped in my mind :) Kacensis ... that is not as pretty but we have to take it ahah

[@MissOrchidGirl]

someone said it is pronounced like chakoensis.. oh dear who knows :P

[@naturalPianoadastra]

ahah in the end the important thing is to understand what we are talking about :) But I stay with my latin knowledge... or at least what remains of it! ahah

[@BenjaminRodriguez-yn6fp]

it is so sad to know it isn't the one you purchased, the one that it really smells it is the encyclia radiata, and it produces even more flowers and it is pretty pretty similar to that one (Encyclia chacoensis) I have a radiata in my collection and it blooms every year. It smells so good like honey or hyacinth I don't know how to described it.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh.. wish I got the radiata instead of this one lol :) thanks for the tip!

[@robkuijer9273]

Ok so this is a year old. But on the pronunciation: chacoensis means from the region of Chaco in bolivia. Pronounce it the spanish way with the latin -ensis (meaning: originating from) as suffix. In general when you have two vowels next to each other in latin I would go pronounce it as two syllables. 9 out of 10 cases that would be the right way.

[@richardlewis8911]

I had the Enc. Green hornet and it smells musty to me. I got rid of it because I didn't like the fragrance and it kept getting black spots on it's leafs.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh dear :( yes it smells bad to me too that one but it's pretty at least :)

[@rkatika9]

What a bummer getting 2 mislabeled orchids from the same company!

[@MissOrchidGirl]

it's not uncommon to have an occasional mislabeled orchid but these Encyclias are a bit too much.. wonder what my 3rd one is :P it's a supplier issue not a vendor issue actually if we dig down :)

[@rkatika9]

+MissOrchidGirl well, they might want to consider changing suppliers...

[@MissOrchidGirl]

yeah problem is you never know :) so we need to let them know and correct the supplier info.

[@orchidsadutchy4940]

Oh no. :( It's a pity about the smell, because the blooms look so beautiful. I guess it wouldn't feel too strong if you have some space to hang it outdoors. I hope you can find the correct orchid. By the way, some people dislike the perfume of the encyclia fragrans too. I was told it smells like very strong honey, but kind of "artificial", concentrated, and that it reminded the person who told me this of some strong flavored medicine. But some people love it. People's sense of smell varies. I don't mean I think this is encyclia fragrans, because it really doesn't look like it. I mean it's possible you won't like the smell, but the only way to know is to find one. I wanted a Cycnodes Wine Delight, but didn't dare to buy one yet, and one reason being half the people I know who has smelled it said the smell was too strong and reminded them of cough syrup. The other half of the people says it smells like cherries and it's a wonderful smell. I have no idea how it would smell to my nose. I hope I could see one in bloom before I buy it.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I can testify that the wine delight does have a very medicinal smell to it, to me it smells like cherry vitamins, artificial and sharp but I personally love it :P I can see how it might not be for everyone since it's so strong and sharp though :P it's kinda fun to not know how you will feel the fragrance.. except when it smells like horse poop bhahaha

[@miche7032]

It is beautiful though , just look it at from a distance so the smell won't overwhelm you 😊

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I agree it is really pretty.. but hard to avoid that smell it's pretty powerful :P

[@siusaidhchaimbeul5499]

Oh dear - chacoensis made me think 'chocolate'. Are there orchids with that scent?

[@MissOrchidGirl]

yep :D the sharry baby kzbin.info/www/bejne/bamxf5eklrqgj7c

[@siusaidhchaimbeul5499]

Thanks! With so many thousands of types of orchids, guess there had to be. Lovely.

[@teetir1981]

Weeee she's mislabeled! what a shame and if you've purchased it from Schwerter Danny they had them in discount about 3€ for each I guess...I checked them a while ago! :) Love, Puja

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh dear I paid 15 lol

[@elizabham765]

I had a chacoensis and enjoyed the fragrance. Sadly it died last year.

[@andrewusher6442]

I have an encyclia hybrid the green hornet x the miva stole it smells like a zygo so it's all good

[@MissOrchidGirl]

oh dear.. I need to know the source if this foul smell lol who smells bad out of these species?

[@patriciaenglish1113]

My Cochleata only blooms once a year 😣😞😒. And has no fragrance.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

great to know, better no fragrance at all than a foul one :D thanks for the tip!

[@ElizabethNinanDr]

have a similar plant flower similar mild aroma but psbulbs are really globular no id

[@MissOrchidGirl]

ok thanks for sharing! maybe it's a trait with quite a few encyclias of the type..

[@feigegrundman8307]

I have one of these - no scent at all. I grow indoors under lights.

[@feigegrundman8307]

Oh, and also mounted on a stick.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

thanks for sharing, oh you're lucky it has no scent hehe :) it seems there is so much variety with these ones.

[@drangelpsyche]

Hi Danny, I actually just got an orchid at an orchid show yesterday that looks very similar to your orchid in this video, except that the one I got smells wonderful! I came across your video when I was searching on its care. The orchid was labeled as Encyclia Radiata. I thought I would share so maybe you would not give up on this type orchid because the fragrance was actually what made me purchase it! The orchid I have has similar psuedobulbs as yours, and has either 2 or 3 leaves at the top,. The flower itself doesn't have a point on the bottom of the lip like yours does, and turns a bit inward instead. Also, some of the flowers have tiny red dots on the green petals as well. Here is a picture of that orchid from the show: goo.gl/photos/BTkGSqXV8i7ta6sq9 Here is a picture of the one I purchased (which of course is not quite as nice as the one in the show - the lip is not quite as white and flower has thinner petals and sepals): goo.gl/photos/ccgiKQDuLizEZCAo8 goo.gl/photos/P7hdwuXNoVQ4oN9J8 I'm actually surprised that two flowers can look so similar and smell so different!

[@MissOrchidGirl]

Oh that is so pretty :D indeed there are 3 very similar orchids that always get mixed up with each other, one is radiata, second fragrans and third chacoensis.. I got the chacoensis from what I can gather :(

[@florrnln6642]

I received the "Franrans' from another nursery, this one in Italy. I got the same as you! It smells awful during most of the day, I'm so disappointed..

[@adiposerex5150]

The botanical pronunciation is chock-o-ensis.

[@nicu23op]

It's Encyclia Radiata

[@rose2fame1]

Maybe that orchid nursery will either reimburse your money or send you a replacement? I hope so as this is not the orchid that you had asked for and paid money for.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

I am not sure, I hope so :) I will write to volker though :)

[@orquidariocelico9282]

protechea fragans ex encilia fragans

[@andrewusher6442]

It's the encyclia but not all of em

[@andrewfan7526]

Cochleata smells like lemon

[@MissOrchidGirl]

... if I ever get a proper labeled one I'll be happy :)) I am trying to have a cochleata for 2 years now lol

[@andrewfan7526]

MissOrchidGirl lol good luck xD

[@diegopineda8301]

Horse manure......not a pretty smell. :( your other fragrent orchids need to hurry up an bloom so they can drown up the smell lol.

[@MissOrchidGirl]

haha I have 2 in bloom that smell great so they cover it... but they are on a different shelf :))

[@cherylpenn4509]

Hi, maybe you can help me with the full name of this orchid that I've just bought. I cannot find it lol. The name given on the plant is: rchg. chichiriviche orchid. Do you have the full name possibly for me please?????💥