Orcs & Goblins vs Wood Elves - The Wold World Live Battle Report

[@johnbambridge1882]

Nobody likes goblins? Oh darn it, I have a night goblin army haha, one brother has dwarfs and the other has Skaven. Always thinking about the battle under the mountain

[@Erebus-oc9zq]

LOVE when i come across one of your reports guys! My afternoon of hobbying is made all the better for watching this video. Thanks🎉

[@mikelruizlarrea9013]

None of your squig herd should have exploded. They have warband special rule. Both times you had LD 8. Love your battle reports guys! Keep up the good work

[@MountainMiniatures]

oh damn

[@JordanRyner]

i love your frequent ork batreps. I'm new to fantasy, playing orks, and its nice to see your tactics. also you guys have great energy and production value

[@Danthar]

Great game! Wish I knew where that tower came from though! Gorgeous sculpt.

[@aroniusplantonius9108]

Yes we need to know

[@detorrV2]

30:00 One point of the rules for charging skirmishers (and any charge really) is to move the shortest path possible. Wheeling will never be shorter than a straight line.

[@MountainMiniatures]

The diagrams on the same page tells a different story tho.

[@detorrV2]

@@MountainMiniatures yes, it is weird. In the diagram it says to "move as directly as possible" but it actually aligns with the closest model. Maybe what "directly" means here is to move in the direction of the center to center line. In any case, i dont think that being able to choose trajectory is the intent.

[@bob_jim6584]

"No one likes the goblins" whaaat!?!?!? Goblins are such a cool and fun army. I would love to own a goblin army.

[@zzudans]

When squigs go wild each additional 5 squigs adds 1 hit, not D3

[@nicolasperel8026]

Thanks again for your awesome content ! Michael, welcome :) Steve, leave him be ^^

[@eviltables7235]

You don't flee on stubborn, even if you are outnumbered 2 to 1 in combat strength.

[@emilrudnielsen2972]

Why has there only been one episode with the empire so far?

[@rikusvolschenk6476]

Good battle report guys, looks like good fun, but man those fanatics wrecked basically half an army...

[@danielsegal4427]

I want to like old world but idk about the every model in the front rank attacks or the 60+ unit 10x6 might as well just play 40K ?

[@CorporalTunnel]

This has me sooo hype for my night goblin collection

[@JesseNepal]

Have you painted the night goblins Steve? I love the yellow coats 🎉

[@Erebus-oc9zq]

Was just reading rules on Glade Lord/Captain on Stag and saw the Stag has Clumsy. Does that prevent him from joining units like Wild Riders because they don't have Clumsy?

[@jessepigram1039]

It only stops non-clumsy characters joining clumsy units, it has no effect the other way around. So Stag in Wild Riders is fine, but a little foot character couldn't join a clumsy unit like Tree Kin

[@Erebus-oc9zq]

@jessepigram1039 thanks for clarifying! I've seen the argument that characters can only join a unit with the exact same subclass, not just type, but can't finder a counter to thst anywhere in the rules 😭

[@jessepigram1039]

@@Erebus-oc9zq If someone is insisting that characters can only join units of the same type, ask them to prove that. You won't find a counter because it's not necessarily to write that characters can join any unit because that is the baseline without a rule stating otherwise. Note though, there are a few places where characters are restricted in what units they can join. Monstrous infantry/cavalry, chariots, monsters, flyers and skirmishers all specifically restricted characters

[@jacobbodmer3159]

Next time just keep your mage near the wildriders - cast Earthen Ramparts on them and poof! they can't charge, problem solved.

[@LukeTheWise1]

Hey thanks for the BR, really keeping me busy as i rebase my 4000 points of WE. 1 question how can the great stag join the middle of the WR unit ? i thought differnt bases sizes needed to go on the edge (maby that was just 8th)?

[@LukeTheWise1]

2 second after sending the video got to that point lol

[@franpschorr3646]

I really wouldn’t mind it if you replaced the tower with something with a flat profile. Also would love to watch the all cav game that was played live over 18 live streams. Any chance it’s gonna get put up despite the technical issues?

[@kohrinsoulez3604]

Arent Dryads skirmishers ?

[@Cerve909090]

Not mandatory. Both Skirmishers and Open Order, you can choose

[@Cyrsia]

Great Batrep! I think the Stomp attacks from treekin where forgotten 😛 Edit: Should have watched a little longer before commenting 😂 And do the whole unit gets to stomp or only models in base contact?

[@angelx9724]

Ah, treeple! I haven't seen them yet

[@piotrskodowski7544]

I am paiting black orcs right now while watching this video XD

[@andrewlittleton4690]

Mangler squigs have heavy armor

[@MountainMiniatures]

ah thank you! didnt see it

[@sod1237]

"itchy" is the one usefull spell

[@poxous3854]

No way that tower is in the middle

[@MountainMiniatures]

camera is off, not the tower

[@poxous3854]

WE wood?

[@kazgroth1]

GG Was great!

[@Willabrador]

I love this thanks guys! Question: with the rule of three thing, does that mean I can only take three units of night goblins even if some are bows and some spears and others hand w? Does that mean only 9 fanatics max? 😂

[@dreadpiratedan]

if you're using a rule of three that only applies to units with no existing limits, night goblins aren't affected because they already have a limitation of 0-1 per night goblin character. so if you take 6 characters, you can take 6 night goblin mobs

[@MountainMiniatures]

the rule of three is a rule anywhere in the rule book, and we wont implement that house rule here, ever. But if your going to an even that has the rule, its best to check with the organizer exactly how they are implementing it. that is even if they do.

[@Willabrador]

Thank you both :)

[@vyper695]

Didnt manage to catch the end while you guys were live, UK time and all that! Fantatics are so funny! Great unit. Also, just use treesinging if you really need to hold the wild riders back. Normally you would keep the caster further back so she isnt in dispel range. Oaken stave for extra dispel range so she can still dispel too. You can also use walk between worlds to move back after casting. In an all tree spirit army, it's less reliable due to being within dispel range more easily.

[@erikbraun473]

I love goblins!!!!

[@joelockhart6309]

Go green skins!

[@Gage_Welch]

Since y’all are rebasing everything to the exact same base you should consider making a map to match 🤣

[@AllbinP]

WAAAGH! :D

[@SkinkChief]

I really like the Wood Elf player in almost every way, but he moans about dice a bit too much.

[@ollikainulainen9590]

Too bad that rank and file shooting is so bad in this edition that wood elf's play mostly trees with wild riders:// I had high hopes for old world but why, just why GW you did this to rank and file shooting:/

[@pinch1loaf]

I agree, the shooting is weak. Not so much because the very nature of ranged but more-so the dimension of the playing field. You pretty much have to deploy in someone's face to shoot them and in wide formations. You get one or two shots off and then get charged and everything is in combat. Can't deploy behind anything unless you have a wide hill, even then the deployments are cramped. I just don't see the point beside a few token war machines for variety. I saw one shooting army do well and it was basically all shooting, and that's because the opponent took their sweet time crossing the field. So the shooting can cause damage if it has time to fire, problem is, you don't have time to fire and get proper value out of them in most cases.

[@ollikainulainen9590]

Shooting is indeed weak, and especially in wood elf case its waaay too expensive. This edition can be compared in many points to 6th edition, but some points; 1. shooting is very much same as in 6th edition, except wood elfs got nerfs. 2. close combat is almost same, except falling back in good order etc (which is good imo) 3. Movement is more smoother and flexing in this edition, and also charge ranges are longer than in 6th edition. 4. Many other armies melee core troops have gotten buffs or point reductions (or both), meanwhile wood elf points are pretty much same or even higher. If you combine 1,3 and 4 you can see why especially wood elfs are having rough time with shooting builds. @@pinch1loaf

[@l.d.6841]

Sorry guys. 10 min into the Battle Report and you still have not started. I dropped it and stopped watching.

[@MountainMiniatures]

No apology necessary my dude

[@richjohn2497]

Just watch it after the live version... can fast forward then if necessary 😊

[@tam596]

Ok hear me out, Fanatics are units so they should be limited to the rule of 3 (max per army). Why not? Not only I would argue that's rules as written and intended, but it definetly make for better games. With 6 or even more 9 it's just about the random dices, the rest of the battle really doesn't matter. 3 are more than enought to have a big (and funny and random) impact on the game

[@MountainMiniatures]

how is it rules as written?

[@tam596]

Sorry, didn't want to sound blunt. Rule of 3 is not written anywhere, but it seems that is suggested by GW for tournament-play, and that you also decided to enforce it as well elsewhere. So, why wouldn't fanatics count as a unit per se, instead of the unit that the hide into? Anyway keep up the good works, big fan of this battle reports and the armies reviews!@@MountainMiniatures

[@MountainMiniatures]

@@tam596 sorry thats not the whole story,. It was one event. and a learning event not a tournament, and it was at 1500 points.