Mossberg 590 SBS Review

I don’t know what it is about SBS’ but I can’t help but love them. Got my hands on a shockwave and immediately filed a form 1.
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[@markavaldez11]

I'm watching this in July of 2024. I purchased a SBS mossberg 590A1 in May and the Form 1 only took 3 days to come back approved. Now is the time to get one if you've ever wanted one!

[@keepaglockonme2805]

How much did the process cost and where did you purchase the SBS?

[@GBGuns]

I think an SBS is just one of those things everyone wants. I've got a non-NFA "Firearm" in 12 gauge that I enjoy.

[@OreGear]

They’re just so satisfying

[@joesmith-mt4ll]

How’s the vska holding what’s your take on it...you’ve ran 5,000k thru it looking good?

[@alien_x8062]

Pump or semi

[@eliescobedo9711]

Definitely. I’m looking to start a Benelli M4 breacher build. I’m definitely not a vet or even LE but having that much power in a small package seems super fun.

[@WINDSORTOWNSAV]

​@@eliescobedo9711unless you have a $3000 AR and a couple nice pistols then spending 2k just to start a build on a shotgun that is not for hunting is crazy lol

[@marzcapone9939]

I also Form 1'd my Shockwave, added a Magpul SGA stock, Surefire fore end light, and a Meprolight tritium front sight(screw in). Magpul sells a butt plate adapter (for the SGA), allows for Remington 870 butt pads, I put a Limbsaver on mine. I can shoot slugs off the bench with that pad, without the pain.

[@user-zp2vn6fn7f]

Yes that's the best build I've seen yet

[@havoc5564]

I run the streamlight on all my shotguns and love it. Ran it through multiple classes and currently for duty use with no issues.

[@OreGear]

Glad to hear it!

[@tylerzmistowski5867]

I have the same big dot on a 590a1 marinecote. Made it 100% more usable.

[@ADRIAN65078]

OMG…WOW!!! Just when I though Ive the best shockwave…I came across yours and you good sir…have the best shockwave vid on here!

[@guillermomaguire5394]

Over our years of working with the Shockwave, we at OPSol Texas definitely agree with "the feel". If you care to, get one of our Flex Adapters and run some minishells. Probably Federals are the stoutest. Nice video, thank you.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Does your adapter work with the Nobel Sport Mini Buck shells? Those shells are 2 1/4" while the Aguila and Federal shells are 1 3/4". I lean towards the mid length 2 1/4" Mini Buck as they fit in shell holders and bandoliers much better, and oddly are easier to handle overall.

[@guillermomaguire5394]

@@Hjerte_Verke Technically no. In my experience with them, they usually run okay without the adapter. If you have a need for "adaption", you can try cutting back the "flex" rubber a little at a time until they run. I have done this, but only for my personal interest......

[@trynagetbanned8483]

GG&G makes a nice pic rail light mount for these. Installs at the end of the magazine tube.

[@TheTacticalRabbi]

That really looks surprisingly smooth to run. Really great video!

[@OreGear]

I’ve always had good luck with getting Mossbergs to run smooth. This one I did have to hand cycle quite a bit before it smoothed up.

[@EastCoastMan603]

Hey man, I enjoy your videos. Appreciate your insight being a “regular guy” and not a former spec ops super hero. I love the looks of mossbergs NightStick model with wood. Practical wise I like the streamlight and maybe you can tap for a dot.

[@OreGear]

Thankfully the receiver is already tapped. I may mess around with a red dot on this thing at some point, but I like how slick it is now.

[@thebigmoizt3270]

You probably shoot a taurus and have an olight on it

[@1madmaxx80]

Mossberg has a 590s model that cycles the 1 3/4" minis, 2 3/4", and 3". No adapter necessary. You can mix & match loads N/P

[@kevo875k]

Just bought the 590s shockwave.. wish I could sbs modify it..lol

[@AttentionDivision]

@@kevo875kThe $200 NFA tax is a good deal if you look at it as a fee authorizing you to pick any parts you want for your gun. There’s no fee to buy or build a non-NFA firearm, but the ATF gets to decide which parts you’re allowed to install on it (and they occasionally change their minds).

[@arturoharvey9733]

@@AttentionDivision Though it’s also worth considering you can’t travel out of state with an NFA firearm without the ATFs permission given by individual location you want to travel to and only good for one year at a time.

[@WolfNRaven]

So you can just pay the fee and make your gun a sbs?

[@josephmerkler7778]

Go with the Wood furniture for much more adaptability of the gun, such as length of pull, and sling mounting. My 590 is std.18" Bbl marinecote, ghost ring&ramp, sling pnt. is on mag tube support under the barrel ahead of the forend grip perfect for a left handed shooter. I care over my right shoulder, muzzle down for ez transition to my left, to sight,and fire safely with 4 points of contact.

[@jmartin9059]

*Slugs "nearly always" have some sort of wad under or attached to the slug... Yes, SOME wads are under and NOT attached to the lead. Some Wads are attached to the slug, somehow. IF you are making more holes than your number of shots fired... The extra holes might be made by 'unattached' wads.*

[@argentinedogo7702]

Man, you have all types of people who can handle the Shockwave with the birds head grip. Woman US Marshall's use them all the time.

[@koumakyo]

LMAO

[@AntifaareFascists-zv6xk]

There's a big booty woman who's got several videos on the shockwave here on KZbin.

[@ayekaythagreat]

thanks for the info about the magpul forend not fitting. I was about to make the exact same mistake myself

[@robolive123]

Nice! I keep threatening to SBS my braced 870 Tac-14 but haven’t gotten around to it yet!

[@tylerc9809]

I’ve been wanting to cut down my old 870 for years. I’ve just never done the paper work to actually do it. Great video I’m gonna go spend some money I guess lol.

[@OreGear]

Nice thing with 870s is usually shorter barrels are readily available.

[@matthewcarlson5505]

I like your idea with the flashlight. I would mainly want to do that and either Vang Comp or Mag-Na-Port it especially if I ever put magnum turkey loads in the tube.

[@winburna2075]

I have one myself. Such a good little bush gun.

[@williamnantz5604]

Since you aren't using the front sling mount, I'd throw on a +1 mag tube extension... it's not much longer, you get an extra round, and it can be used as an improvised 'stand off' device. Just use a good, tough one like the S&J Hardware or another seamless steel piece. Awesome sbs.

[@OreGear]

Interesting. I hadn’t considered that. I’ll look into it

[@CiviTac]

Also, there are some good flashlight mounts that are secured through the magazine tube cap. That's the easiest way to mount a streamlight imo

[@kellydavis4330]

Defender Tactical mini adaptor is a game changer

[@beck4218]

I filed on a Benelli M4 SBS and it's my favorite shottie by far.

[@OreGear]

Interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an SBS’d M4

[@jjgibson3409]

Crimson trace solves the aiming issue with the raptor grip

[@jasonsims9680]

GG&G has a Magpul pump handle that they have already modified to fit the Shockwave. FYI

[@jeremiahcherry5283]

I tune in every time my dude. One those views on each video is mine. Us Oregon folks gotta represent.

[@OreGear]

I appreciate it

[@SuperUncleRyan]

I put a Magpul forend on mine. It did take some mods but it wasn't that bad. I have a disability in my left hand so I really need a forward verticle grip, so putting the Magpul forend was nesessary, and of course it makes a great place for a light. I have everything filled out and I was just waiting on my ATF fingerprint cards to finish my NFA paperwork to put the Magpul stock on instead of the dumb pistol brace. I have a 590A1 with the Magpul stock and it is a great feeling stock.

[@OreGear]

I really like the Magpul forends. I had one on my 590A1 as well

[@jzatt-gp7cb]

I was just coincidently looking at red dot mounts for Mossbergs and fount that Monstrum makes a $20 mounting plate that bolts to the pre tapped holes on the receiver so you can mount a RMR footprint red dot. A Holosun 507c circle dot might be pretty good for a shotgun.

[@gunnutbikenut6939]

GG&G actually sells a modified magpul one I think for around 50 60 bucks

[@SudsMcDuff007]

Thanks

[@swatofficer9513]

GG&G also sells the Magpul foreend that is already modified for the Mossy Shockwave. I just bought one for my Shockwave about a week ago. it is about 20 bucks more than the standard foreend but you can find it under their Mossberg Shockwave parts section. only comes in FDE, Blk, or Grey.

[@MinutemanMedic]

I really want one of these but with wood furniture

[@Test-nd1qo]

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[@pjoffrion]

I think it"s worth it to form 1 590s shockwave, add some type of light mount, Optic mount or ghost ring , magpul stock, plus one(?), AND thread the barrel for chokes to get much better groups with mini shells. Ultimate truck gun and formidable hd weapon.

[@Sigfofosauer]

You said something about stripping the paint off and add some wood furniture. I'm currently waiting for a 590 Shockwave and I'm thinking to do just that. I have (somewhere around my house) the wooden stock and pump that I took off from my 590 Retrograde. I do like the Magpul modern design, but at the same time I feel that some "classic look short barrel shotgun" is a must have in any shotgun collection. Keep that shorty beauty of yours as it is. But get another one and start a "Classic Shotgun 2023's project" 😉

[@CodyRhodes410]

10:22 totally agree with that. I don’t like having to adjust my grip to hit the release. I have relatively small hands and the Remington release in front of the trigger guard is uncomfortable for me.

[@abdullaex4119]

Good vid with one concern. The short shells are great however the shockwave needs an adaptor to shoot the short shells. Installed in the magazine well to properly feed from mag tube to barrel. Cheap and quick fix. Guys out of Lubbock Texas, I think? Now use 9 rounds instead of 3. I think that's the ratio? My shockwave/adaptor works well. First model adaptors came lose, not good. Next gen 2, like mine, worked well. Put some simple adhesive on it so it does not move. I cleaned everything good and applied contact cement both on the adaptor and mag well. Worked great, handled the vibration, dirt, etc. Easy to come off if you want to run full length shells. OPPPS... glad you covered the needed. Peace from Texas

[@douglasmoore3034]

Look up defender tactical they are out of Texas they created a adapter that is permanent where u can shoot shorties to 3inch mixed together with no issues I have adapters for both of my shotguns and works flawlessly

[@mattmccard3543]

Shockwave industries makes a nice M-lok for end for that firearm. $14.99 on sale now!!!

[@jacobmanalang8162]

i prefer the mossberg safety to the remington as well. now that im on the hunt for a shockwave again i cant find one in 12g. no remington either. really like your sbs setup!

[@OreGear]

The weird thing is the last batch of 12ga shockwaves we got where I work had 18.5” barrels. Kind of defeats the purpose.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

@@OreGear wth? maybe thats why when i called one of my lgs they said they had a maverick 88 shockwave. DONT JUST SLAP A BIRDS HEAD GRIP ON IT AND CALL IT A SHOCKWAVE next im gonna see it on a 28in barrel lol

[@bodazaphfa]

Smokey Mountain Guns and Ammo usually has them in stock.

[@trizzetta]

Thank you, this was very informative. I recently brought this exact model home just over a month ago (after waiting 13.5 months for a tax stamp) and I am very happy with it minus one exception: it is difficult to find accessories for it because it is an SBS. For example, I purchased the Stream Light racker with the 1000 lumen light and was greatly disappointed because as you mentioned in your video, the racker is not a standard size because of the barrel length and therefore, does not fit. I am also having a very difficult time finding a full length rail system for this unit. Everything that I have found so far is made for an 18" or 20" barrel. I did however find an AR style stock with a buffer tube system that I installed which bolted on without any issues. (I've not tested it yet and I am hoping that it take more recoil out than expected...) Otherwise, it is a fun but punishing gun. If you have and manufacturers that make accessories specific to this SBS, I would greatly appreciate a few links.

[@OreGear]

Streamlight makes a Racker model specifically for the shockwave.

[@trizzetta]

@@OreGear unfortunately that unit doesn't fit. the racker is too short. I know for a fact because it was a Christmas present and has already been returned... the Shockwave racker is longer by about 2 inches... Also, i don't own a shockwave, it's an M590A1 SBS.

[@kentuckyjustice1408]

I'd love to SBS my Shockwave with a Magpul stock, but I can't stand the thought of paying $200.00 for a right that I believe is already mine. I'm not going to violate any laws, so my Shockwave remains in "out of the box" condition, sling mounts and Opsol adapter excepted. Those mini shells are great. Good video.

[@iamcondescending]

I've got a 590M and just ordered a 14" kit for it... Might have to do a video of it on my other chanel. Personally don't like the sling stud on the end cap. I took it off and screwed it in from the inside of the cap.

[@jeffadams9807]

U Need To Use Federal Flight Control Ammo For Ur SBS... U Also Need The Streamlight TL-RACKER 1000 Lumen Foregrip Light...

[@kenshin034]

mossbergs only shotgun worth SBS beside the M3 entry 😩 the 18.5 500 XS persuaders /tactical are cqb 👑 no hand to face any LOP shooting from cqb/vehicles, just take the shell saddle off and side Velcro it, med.classic limbsaver slip fits wrap edges w/etape for dismounts, cut/ZipT 1/4 pipe insulation for the best cheek rest 😭works great on Sub2k buffer tubes but most importantly KEEP THE STRAP!!!!! Most fights hand/arm hits common it adds no weight works as a vertical grip if needed

[@DanielBoone337]

I've been going through sbs phase also... I don't know why because I like an 18 inch "tactical" shotgun but they're really cool so I might have to give in one day... LOL Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!

[@OreGear]

I used to watch mrgunsngear’s SBS videos whenever I was feeling the urge. I’m glad I finally did it though.

[@Sarge0311]

Nice 590 SBS sir I am looking to do the same soon

[@18wheeler77]

I have friends that work at Maverick Arms. I’ll be sure to see if they can speak to quality control to take care of the sharp edges.

[@caddilacjim]

GG&G makes a Magpul forend they modified to work on the Mossberg shockwave.I too have went back and forth on a sbs haven't got one yet foresee it my near future.

[@davehill7771]

i really like the streamlight racker

[@TX1836]

GG&G sells a Magpul forearm that is modified to fit the Shockwave.

[@rico989]

SBS my shockwave waiting for the mossberg ghost rings to be in stock.

[@LiveLaughJordan-oi6tg]

Great video! Thank you!

[@nishnabie8798]

Love to see you test federal flitecontrol 00buck 8 pellet at 30 yards. 40 yards and 50 yards with your sbs😊

[@gokhancinar7096]

Hi. Thanks for the great video. I have a quick question if I may. I saw some videos people adding a brace called SBM4 from SB-Tactical. They say they don't need Form 1 for that Pistol Stabilizing Brace. I wouldn't belive it so I wanted to ask a professional. Isn't it a felony? Thanks.

[@kilonine]

GG&G sells a modded magpul forend just for that.

[@BlurryBlooper]

Sweet shotgun

[@curtisogden3965]

It looks sleek with the factory pump. One day I'll move to a free state and SBS one of these.

[@shainshartershwate7421]

That would be a great camping gun for sure

[@OreGear]

Definitely

[@danieldotter6077]

commenting for the logs

[@indymac7]

I would go old-school wood simply for looks. I have plenty of shotguns including tactical. And I wouldn't want to go tactical without a full shoulder stock with which I trained. Very good video. I just hate to go the form & stamp route to let the gov goons know I have anything. Final comment...Disband the ATF!!!

[@edsweeney6843]

Love your set up. I have tge Streamlight Racker. Bomb proof. Im interested in your sling adapter and sling. At least the name and links if possible.

[@cryptomnesiac]

I found the magpul mod easy, took me an hour maybe. I think it's worth.

[@ericsolis8571]

Defender Tactical has a mini shell adapter that you don't need to remove to run both regular and mini shells

[@OreGear]

Have you used them? Do they work well?

[@ericsolis8571]

@@OreGear I have it installed on my 18.5 590. Runs great no issues cycling at all. Runs mixed shells no issue

[@708outrage]

2:24 🔥

[@Pipesandstooges]

Great video thank you

[@stevenkennedy4130]

I bought the Shockwave for a breaching tool. That and some bolt cutters. ;-)

[@LiveLaughJordan-oi6tg]

What is this OD green reinforced softshell you have? I can't find those ANYWHERE

[@yetisuncle666]

All guns need a paint job. The black that most guns come from the factory is a primer layer basically. Ready for you to customize yourself. Black weapons stick out like a neon sign

[@pewbrothers4806]

Makes me kind of want one.

[@OreGear]

Do it! -Darth Sidious

[@mr.lovell3645]

I am getting one but putting a brace on it instead 🤠

[@timowens7214]

Could have gone the pistol grip route and a brace for $200 less and 130 something days shorter wait

[@OreGear]

And worse ergonomics

[@2nd_a_dad4791]

Wicked. I want one.

[@Whack.Attack]

Great vid. What chest rig are you running? I like those flip out shell cards.

[@crowsbridge]

I think gg&g sells a modified magpul pump grip that fits the shockwave.

[@OreGear]

That’d be convenient!

[@zacharnish5392]

Yes they do and it's only about 60 bucks. I just installed one on mine and works fine

[@TJR1357]

So it’s meant to be a hip fired weapon. I’ve noticed you change the stock on it and you’re firing it like a rifle stance.

[@Watching-hb7pb]

I am interested in knowing your thoughts on the 590A1? I'm a fan from Canada and we don't have that paperwork approval process for putting a stock on a Shockwave; which is surprising in a way because we have a lot more process and paperwork for firearms ownership than you folks,

[@RickNethery]

Very cool shotgun 👍

[@OreGear]

Thanks Rick!

[@bradclem6226]

I always preferred Winchester Super X slugs they seem to be more accurate n my shotguns.

[@timbersniper2084]

Subscribed for more sbs videos. very cool.

[@SmokesKwazukii]

i get not wanting a pistol grip (tho the birds head is pretty comfy tbh) however u kinda made it boring with the regular stock. i wouldve put a folding stock at least tbh... just to keep it compact. it still looks cool tho. the streamlight pump will complete it for sure. idk i guess the classic stock does look pretty sick with the short barrel tbh

[@PrayingPanda]

I disagree with the usefulness of the shockwave in its factory configuration. With practice and a red dot any one with a decent amount of strength can use it just as good a shotgun inside of 30 yards. Let the firearm recoil into the reload cycle, use the strap, and you'll do fine.

[@OreGear]

False -Dwight Schrute

[@christopherbarrow7397]

Demonstrated concepts disagrees

[@scottc9601]

I've had mine for 4 years. Lots of practice. 2 3/4 loads in 00 buck and a few slugs every now and then works fine without a full stock. I even practice with 3 " 00 buck ( which can be a bit painful, but do able) Maybe because I'm a big guy ( 245 lbs and 6'2") it's a breeze to shoot. Have thought about SBS filing, but figure I'll use the money and keep shooting.

[@weezem]

People aren't using stockless shotguns in competitions for a reason. Sure you can use them but a stock will always be better in a real world situation.

[@PrayingPanda]

@@weezem folks aren't using factory guns period in competition. Your point is moot.

[@krishnacarub5778]

have the same setup but i mounted a red dot on it its fun to shoot until you get into high brass then the bastard punishes you i usualy put 20-30 shells of high brass before im packing it in for the day lol

[@MrHeat1up]

Did you mount the crimson trace? Or another laser sight?

[@krishnacarub5778]

@@MrHeat1up i mounted a red dot optic no laser haha

[@emeritustagarino703]

Optics and weapon lights

[@johnsheldon3664]

Very nice firearm and fantastic video. I too have a shockwave, but took a different approach. The gun is in stock configuration but have added a CT laser saddle which makes shooting from the hip accurate.

[@randallbryant9456]

"590 SBS".👍💥👍

[@skylinefootball]

I want an origin 12 sbs or the AOW version without the stock.

[@EMFSafetyZone]

Let's get to the dark side without hesitation. With this stock, which everyone seems to like so much, you cannot get the trigger assembly out, or get it back into the gun during takedown on the Mossberg 590A1, without having to loosen the stock quite a bit. This requires more time and an additional hex wrench. Whereas with normal takedown you do not need any additional tools. I like my Magpul stock, but this is really a stupid design flaw!

[@clarkrichards1907]

And that is why none of my tools are ever in the shop.

[@donesixfour]

I want to see that with a folding stock

[@flash333g]

Just saw you video great...I my have one...I am looking for a plus one or zero with the retaining ring sling mount. I am not willing to put anything under the barrel nut....and maybe red dot some day...Help if you can Thanks

[@GabrielBaker-nj8zl]

That thing is begging for a Vang Comp optic mount

[@MLoges86]

What's the chest rig set up @1:51

[@bowieupland6112]

Beauty.

[@bruce5648]

Did you put the Streamlight for arm on it

[@rustymiller194]

I have owned a shockwave for about 2 years now. I going to Form 1 it now also. Do you have any advice about the form 1 process? ? This will be my first experience with it and I’m not sure what I’m getting myself in to?…….

[@SVTBansheeman]

If you know a buddy who can run a lathe, I can give you the dimensions to thread it. I had my shockwave threaded for chokes. I reverse engineered the threads off my mossberg 500 28" barrel. Does yours require a 6 o'clock hold? Mine does and I hate it which is why it has a red dot.

[@juanzuniga5976]

Great video, can I get more info on the shell holder/chest rig you are running

[@OreGear]

It’s an Original SOE Gear Shotgun micro rig

[@anthonyclaudio1189]

I have a 590A1 18.5 bbl. Wonder if 4 in. Really makes that much of a difference

[@jonstafford7609]

Was wondering the same thing

[@rilo_dippin3650]

What brand receiver sling mount is that?

[@OreGear]

It’s the Magpul sling mount that goes between the receiver and stock

[@rilo_dippin3650]

@@OreGear thanks man I’ve been trying to find out since you dropped the video 😅

[@laxdrew9]

GG&G light mount sling combo

[@raulloredo1628]

Do you have a video on how you installed the stock ? And where did you buy it please

[@bigbadjohnpesek9894]

Doesnt hold enough rounds for me. I will stick with my bullpup shotguns. Smaller than this. Can be shoulder/aim fired and takes 5 or 10 round mags or a 20 round drum. And no pumping. Semi auto.