ORICO o7000 vs WD Black SN850x - Should you spend more on an SSD?

[@mghz01]

always pay extra for the brand that comes with customer service and good warranty, $20 is nothing these days

[@IslandaBoi]

In some countries it can be more then 20 bucks difference aswell. Need to consider ppl who live in places which parts aint cheap n just need something cheap but good.

[@IslandaBoi]

Also just cause its a name brand doesn't mean they are better. Asus for example who has a terrible track record for customer service n RMA.

[@isseichang269]

great, send me 20 dollars since ite nothing

[@Ajay__Gaming]

In INDIA, WD Black SN850x is 190USD vs ORICO o7000 is 117USD For 2TB Versions. But i Still Prefer WD over some Chinese Shenzen Product.

[@holo2869]

My personal rule when buying components with memory chips is to only buy brands that also manufactures memory chips since they have the longevity experience. They are the following brands: Sandisk, Transcend, Samsung, Micron/Crucial, Teamgroup and Kingston. WD and Seagate are also ok since they have been in the storage market for very long.

[@johndelabretonne2373]

This is a fairly good rule to follow, although (at least as far as I'm aware) both Crucial and Samsung have swapped cache sizes or swapped controllers without changing the Model# in the past; IMO, this is a disgusting practice that I've personally been a victim of, and I will no longer trust these companies in the future...

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

@@johndelabretonne2373 This parts swap is something that Kingstone also did way back when SATA SSD's were the thing. Don't know if they have done this with the M.2 drives. Another thing to look for is the TBW rating. A high TerraBytes Written rating mean the drives should be more durable. And at least to me that is pretty important. I might not have the most write intensive software but it's onw less thing you have to wonder about. Currently I think the Kingstone Fury Renegade is pretty nice, with a TBW of 2000 for the 2TB version and a TBW of 4000 for the 4GB version. They are also pretty well priced, though they are not the fastest drives out there.

[@multirajyt]

Wd is a manufacturing brand and orico is a labeling brand 😅

[@agustinusalvinwicaksono]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂true

[@cheekster777]

Thank you. Happy New Year Lauri and team.

[@johndelabretonne2373]

Your video has convinced me that Oricco is not a company I want to be purchasing SSDs from. If a company wants to use a different controller in their SSD, then they should create a new Model#/SKU for that item. We need to stop rewarding companies for very bad behaviors like this... There are companies out there that don't secretly swap controllers and have reasonable prices.

[@louisstanwu]

My game box has the WD Black drive, nice to know it's a great drive. Happy New Year.

[@lindsaybruce1396]

A lot of this is going to depend on your use case. Ingesting footage is very different from being a boot drive, as is active project storage, NAS caching, and medium term storage. Hard drives also have different use cases, so this concept should be familiar to experienced PC users. Buying the same drive for all these use cases would be... sub-optimal. Best to learn what to look for, and then you can optimise for how you intend to use the drive and save yourself some cash. This is particularly true when considering data transfer speeds of PCIe gen 3, 4 and 5 drives.

[@aallien]

What do you actually determine if an ssd has dram or hmb? This information isn’t shown on all SSD’s. This drive shows HMB and SLC cache. The SN850x doesn’t show having either.

[@partyheartyboy]

Hi. Great video! Always buy reputable nvme drive brands with dedicated dram cache. The nvme drives without dram can be used as secondary storage drives not as primary OS drives. Cheers!

[@Jadders-pr3me]

What about the ORICO e7400 and the ORICO-IG740PRO.

[@dante4358]

I have 2TB orico ssd, got it for a great price. using it as game drive so that even if it goes bad nothing important will be lost....

[@sm_003]

Could you pls review the KIOXIA EXCERIA Plus G3 SSD 1TB/2TB SSD & compare with all other leading brands like you did in this video? WD use the same memory controller from this KIOXIA brand.

[@LeaveittotheMattster]

I stay away from SSDs that doesn't have any kind of DRAM on them, and relying on OS-dependent HMB can be flaky and has recent reports of Windows crashing due to bugged HMB implementation. DRAM-less SSDs store their data map on NAND dies, causing general performance issues as random reads and writes are heavily penalised. They also cause more wear on the NAND dies which in turn die sooner.

[@Jamie71q]

I have 3 2TB WD drives in my system, the SN770 rock solid, Id rather have peace of mind warranty than some Chinese SSD

[@DavidGoben]

One thing I also pay attention to is the manufacturer's "K" size assumption. For example, of the WD_Black SN850's I have, they all calculate 1K as 1000 bytes, not as the "official" 1024. Thus, 1MB is calculated as 1000x1000 instead of 1024x1024, 1GB is calculated as 1000MB and 1TB as 1000GB. What this boils down to is all my SN850's are each 99,511,627,776 bytes (92.7GB) shorter than an official 1TB drive, like the drive that usually comes pre-installed on a stock PC. Still, this should still not present any significant usage issues, except when we are trying to clone a fast and easy mirror backup. Suddenly we discover that we also need to rejigger the partitions on a boot drive, for example, which typically has 3 partitions assigned (EFI System, Recovery and Basic Data), to actually be successful (fortunately, the 260MB normally assigned to the EFI System Partition can usually be safely trimmed down to 99MB, or whatever the disk cloning software's actual content measurements permit). Of course, this variance in actual physical memory capacity can also affect benchmark test results.

[@marvingrecia4516]

Can you test Orico's new nvme which is ORICO E7400? It is faster than O7000 and has twice the durability 1TB has 600TBW. In my region i can also buy it cheaper than O7000.

[@najahamid]

I just bought 2TB E7400. Might run some tests later.

[@YashTheDon]

Trust me Orico O7000 is really great it's quite cheap and performance is amazing i am using it's 1TB comes with a decent heatsink too and Price Difference between WD Black SN850X 1TB or 2TB and Orico O7000 1TB or 2TB is quite huge in India not sure about US Pricing. It's literally 2X the price of Orico lol 😅

[@GregM]

Have you been using i for more than a year?

[@YashTheDon]

@GregM not for year but yes for a couple of months, around 5-6 months

[@truenorth5072]

Good luck…make sure you buy another one to back up the first one. You will need it. 😂😂😂

[@YashTheDon]

@truenorth5072 jokes on you my main drive is Adata Legend 960 Max 2TB 😉

[@bongkem2723]

why dont you choose a 2TB WD like the 2TB on Orico, bigger ssd usually has more cache and perform better.

[@collectedmind3653]

OR, you could just budget $20 extra, and not deal with off-brands.

[@jeremycarter]

I couldn’t care less for speeds. I prefer more reliability than speeds. I have had two Crucial P3 drives get bad sectors in a matter of a few months of use. I love the reliability of Samsung and will only use Samsung from here on out. I have also used Kingston, Sabrent, Corsair, WD and nothing beats the reliability of the Samsung.

[@DanielRamm-w2y]

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[@IndianCitizen04]

Apple with Orange. DRAM based SSD always superior particularly for System Drive but when you choose it for secondary drive with external enclosure Orico probably better choice as this is cheaper.

[@neville_bloody_bartos]

I have the heatsink version of the sn850x, it also has an annoying orange flashing LED.

[@sunwalker4017]

Just for my understanding. When did English speakers stop using the plural? There is deals? Is that colloquial language or slang?

[@tadejdanev5030]

i bought NETAC 2TB NV7000 with heatsink, does it have cache? ;)

[@danp2306]

Is it the one with the red stripe in the middle? It should....be careful, though - Netac has changed controller hardware with that model.

[@tadejdanev5030]

@@danp2306 yes 2 red stripes

[@ExpanderDJ]

I paid 40€ less for an ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 2Tb instead of the SN850x 2Tb. Am I screwed?

[@YashTheDon]

no I don't think soo

[@ExpanderDJ]

@YashTheDon thanks 😀

[@abdulshabazz8597]

I rendered out half of a 4 minute 4K HDR 10 120 fps animation sequence in Unreal Engine 5 using 10-bit EXR, and other quality settings, and it required 1TB !!!

[@omnymisa]

Orico should have enough experience and skills to produce vey competent storage units, they are not new around and in the past they had some excellent performing devises

[@kingneutron1]

Personally I would never waste my money on a 1TB drive if it had 600TBW rating or less. I went with Lexar NM790 for my Proxmox ZFS data disk and it's ~1% wear - been running nearly 24/7 since Feb 2024.

[@thomaskatt4450]

Picked up an 850x 8tb on Amazon during black friday for $580, the deal was too much to resist

[@johndelabretonne2373]

I'll bite on one of these when they reach $50 per TB

[@Sykeye7]

You don't buy electronics from accessories brands just like you don't buy watches from fashion brands. Appreciate the video though.

[@rallyscoot]

If it is just a scratch drive, it really doesnt matter. For more data safety would prefer an A brand.

[@peterwstacey]

Exactly - it's ok to mix and match based on use case. Hard Drives for archival use or backups, basic SSD or NVMe for scratch drives. Don't get me wrong, if you want to go all out for high speed branded flash storage, then go for it, but you don't have to

[@mutenroshi109]

thanks

[@amitpandya6827]

The best kind of pleasure is the one for which you have to pay the least amount of compensation in life. I choose Orico O7000 2tb M.2 Nvme Ssd

[@benyaminaser]

Nah. Just going to stay with WD Black. Just got myself an 8TB version. I was looking into FireCuda 530R, even though they are 4TB; their TBW is insane compared to others. But I haven't seen reviews of it on the internet yet.

[@declice]

My WD black sn770 is now incompatible with windows 11 as a C: drive so never buying WD again. I have seen about a billion blue screens by now... even after registry fixes and a lot of tinkering the ssd is now out of the system.

[@AshtonCoolman]

Windows 11 isn't innocent in your scenario. It definitely has problems

[@williamlusdoc4986]

i have that specific orico and it is not consistent if you copy a 70gb game its speed will go down to only 30MBPS which is super slow... it fast in the first few seconds but slow down overtime don't buy that if you are moving large games or files

[@AshtonCoolman]

If it doesn't have a DRAM cache then I don't want it. There's other red flags slot this drive too like its endurance.

[@Happy-g3e5d]

Past 1 week I am waiting for B580 video 😔

[@GregM]

You hopefully have current backups with either NvME drive you use. If the Orico packs in in after several months I think you will wind up tossing it in the garbage. No one does long-term tests or determine whether support is going to be around for warranty.

[@tonyjim7616]

Amazing.

[@yvliew]

Capacity Options 512GB / 1TB / 2TB / 4TB TBW 300 / 600 / 1200 / 2400TBW Clearly the 300TBW is for 512GB. 600TBW for 1TB drive. You can do a lot better than this..

[@theTechNotice]

Look at their website...

[@yvliew]

@ @ dude I can’t believe you asked me to look at their website while you FAILED to look at their website properly. The O7000 is 600tbw for 1TB drive. Did it occur to your that you may have clicked on the wrong ssd? The J-20 Pro does have a 300TBW for 1TB drive. You really should have double check again before posting this reply.

[@yvliew]

@@theTechNotice even on amazon website it’s claiming 600tbw Stronger and More Durable - O7000 series SSDs have an MTBF of over 1.5 million hours. 1TB model has an endurance of 600TBW, 2TB model has an endurance of 1,200TBW and 4TB model has an endurance of 2,400TBW

[@cloud-ce6qv]

no real copy test..

[@NoMisteR_RHF]

WD has DRAM on... this Orico thing doesnt...what else to say....from my subjective perspective ...apples and oranges

[@williamlau7179]

Always go for dram when price is justifiable. Faster n more steady speeds.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Nice

[@poljackph]

I will just buy the WD40

[@happymann1000]

I don't know why I ever watched anything from this channel. The more I see... the more I understand it is just about his feelings. The content typically doesn't provide the value I'm looking for like data driven results. It's typically very shallow. Normally I would expect to see this type of content in the Apple fanboy space.

[@agustinusalvinwicaksono]

sorry but i still prefer wd

[@toonnut1]

WD_BLACK all day long

[@dreamremover4864]

මම මේ වගේ බටහිර නිර්මාණකරුවන්ට කැමති නැහැ. ඔවුන් අපේ සමාගම විනාශ කිරීමට ලැබීමට ඉඩ සලසයි. අපගේ රටවල අනාගත ආර්ථිකය ගැන සිතන්නේ නැත. I don't like this type of western content creators. They promote any cheap junk that will pay them to destroy our companies. They only want money and do not think about the future economy of our countries.

[@silverghost3506]

had a bad experience with orico... 1tb... it died after 3 hours of hammering it.,... heavy reads and write..

[@charbtious7262]

comparing the performance of a 2tb vs 4 tb is apples and oranges. Why would you do this? Are you shilling for oriico? Compare comparable products dummy, if you wanna make ads then be honest about it.