Orin Nano Super + SSD - No Host Required!

[@JetsonHacks]

In the video, I state that the 80 in 2280 stands for 80 centimeters. It means 80 millimeters, of course. 80 centimeters would have much more storage! What can I say, I'm an uneducated American 😉

[@Kw1161]

I'm holding out for a 80 kilometer SSD...! Happy New Year JetsonHacks!

[@sansmojo]

Maybe the Super Duper will support 80 cm SSDs.

[@JetsonHacks]

@@Kw1161 I like it! Thinking big! Happy New Years to you and yours, and thanks for watching!

[@JetsonHacks]

@sansmojo One can only hope. Thanks for watching!

[@JohnWindberg]

how much storage could we get in 80 furlongs?

[@matthew247]

THANK YOU!!! I searched for this resource all day. I picked up my Jetson last weekend and have been playing with it using the SD but realized the SSD is pretty much necessary. I didn't want to put together an Ubuntu workstation to flash the new SSD (Crucial P3 1TB Gen3) thinking there MUST be a way to just move the SD data over and thankfully found your video and scripts. Worked perfectly on the 1st try! THANKS AGAIN!

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome, I am glad you were able to get it to work. Thanks for watching!

[@SuperStenfeldt]

the moment of truth, I followed you instructions and despite I missed a couple of recommendations during copy/paste, this one of the best upgrades ever. NVIDIA support forum do not provide this information, but its all worth and now this machine has received a turbo charger in 6th gear with the Samsung 990 PRO 2TB (PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD) thank you so much for your video and instructions, I appreciate your assistance

[@JetsonHacks]

I'm glad you were able to get it to work. Thanks for watching!

[@Tokolabs]

This worked FLAWLESSLY thank you soo much!

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome, I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching!

[@keanraw]

Thanks so much for all of your work, I've found it to be much better than the official resources!

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome, and thank you for the kind words. Thanks for watching!

[@garykingston1662]

I’ve been waiting eagerly for this! Not only did you make a video, but you wrote scripts to do it. Bravo! I can’t to get this running. Excellent video, as well. Update: just completed the steps and it works exactly as described in the video. Perfection. Thanks again!

[@JetsonHacks]

Thank you for the kind words. I am glad you were able to get it to work. Thanks for watching!

[@mapletux9675]

Thank you for an excellent tutorial. I followed the steps and everything worked flawlessly. The question now is what to do with the newly redundant SD card 🙂

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome, I'm glad you were able to get it to work. As for the SD card, that's easy. You keep for when the inevitable bad day happens and the Jetson won't boot for some reason. Thanks for watching!

[@Limo88]

This works without issues first time! Only thing was I discovered this video after I had already configured docker to use my nvme ssd as a volume, had to undo all of that before I ran the scripts but it works like a charm!

[@JetsonHacks]

I am glad you were able to get it to work. Thanks for watching!

[@kh5lil]

Worked like a charm! While my sd card had different name I had to use the -s flag to use mine, everything went on smoothly afterwards. And a great shout to resize the memory at the end 👌🏻

[@JetsonHacks]

I am glad you were able to get it to work. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@kh5lil]

@@Tr3xShadsuper! December 2024 release

[@RobertKulason]

Worked perfectly for me. Thanks!

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. I'm glad you got it to work. Thanks for watching!

[@wouterverhoeven7527]

Thank you so much for your amazing tutorials on the Jetson Orin! Your video on the SDK Manager and jumper method from a year ago was incredibly helpful-I was able to successfully install everything on a 1TB NVMe SSD thanks to your clear and detailed instructions. I also found your Jetson Docker Containers tutorial to be absolutely superb. Your effort to make these guides accessible and thorough is truly appreciated including your humor. I was wondering if you might have any tips on setting up a dual-boot configuration? I’d like to keep my original installation with JetPack 5.1.1 and add the option to boot into Nano Super as well. Any advice or resources you could share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all the knowledge you share with the community!

[@JetsonHacks]

Thank you very much for the kind words. As far as I know, there is no dual boot method for different versions of JetPack. The issue is that the version of JetPack is dependent on the firmware. The firmware required for JetPack 5 and JetPack 6 is different. There is currently no practical way to switch firmware versions when switching between the JetPack 5 and JetPack 6. Thanks for watching!

[@wouterverhoeven7527]

Thank you so much for your quick and detailed response! What you said makes a lot of sense, and it’s probably saved me an entire weekend of trying to make an impossible dual-boot setup work. I really appreciate the clarification-it’s clear now that the firmware differences make this a no-go. Instead, I’ll likely just order a second SSD to keep things simple. I really enjoy the stable and reliable setup I have with JetPack 5.1.1 (especially for running Stable Diffusion) and definitely don’t want to lose that. Thanks again for all your help and for the amazing content you continue to share!

[@JetsonHacks]

​@@wouterverhoeven7527You are welcome. Good luck on your project!

[@julianvanderkraats408]

You can also use SDK Manager to flash eveything to NVMe, works well, no scripts needed.

[@JetsonHacks]

That's a great (and approved) way to set up your system! Unfortunately some users (like me) have not had the same 'works well' experience. Thanks for watching!

[@JohnWindberg]

I tried that several times, and I could get a working machine, but never that third super power level. And, as mentioned above, I've lost the bios startup screen, so no way to get into config any more.

[@mikew2883]

Great tutorial. Thanks! 🙏

[@JetsonHacks]

Thank you for the kind words, and thanks for watching!

[@ChicagoBob123]

Thanks a bunch this worked great!.

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. I'm glad you found it useful, and thanks for watching!

[@brianpearson2532]

Worked perfectly, Thank You!

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. I'm glad you were able to get it to work. Thanks for watching!

[@ThomasAmsler]

Thank you very much for providing the scripts. It worked perfectly

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. I am glad you were able get it to work! Thanks for watching.

[@SteelyEyedH]

Thanks for this, for some reason I needed to run the format step twice for it to work, 1st time the copy failed, even though the partition structure looked ok

[@JetsonHacks]

I am glad you were able to get it to work. Thanks for sharing your experience, and thanks for watching.

[@jreicher]

Thanks so much for this video! Things flaked out a bit for me, but the second time around everything worked fine (I think I had a bad spot on my SSD - it was one of those losely Kingston ones!)

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. If you can't trust your memories, who can you trust? I am glad you were able to get it to work, and thanks for watching!

[@ramkumarkoppu]

Thank you, what's the best method to upgrade to newer version when it is available for example jetpack 6.2 once we migrated to SSD if possible without using the host?

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. The upgrade path won't be known until the release. Thanks for watching!

[@ramkumarkoppu]

@@JetsonHacksnow it’s the time to upgrade to 6.2?

[@Zor3nd3r]

Thanks you 😂

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome and thanks for watching!

[@theartvark]

Thanks for the video, worked great! In theory it should be possible to use the scripts to make a backup of the NVME to a USB drive by changing the source and destination, correct?

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. I haven't tried it, but I think so.For best results, boot from the SD card and make sure that the NVMe SSD is not mounted. Then make the backup. It's always a little iffy trying to clone a running system, and should be avoided if possible. Thanks for watching!

[@TondeVreede]

@@JetsonHacks I will give it a shot and report back here. I just know I will mess up that installation at some point ;-)

[@JetsonHacks]

@@TondeVreede That's the spirit!

[@TondeVreede]

@@JetsonHacks EDIT: JUST DID THIS AGAIN AFTER INSTALLING JETPACK 6.2, GOT A MESSAGE 'Destination partition /de/sda1 has no file system. Skipping copy for safety'. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS DID NOT WORK (could even have failed before and I just missed the message...) I have made a backup, I have not tested a restore though... All storage device names are what they were called on my device, always doublecheck. Steps: 1. Get yourself a 64Gb SD card and USB drive (64Gb is fine for a basic Jetpack install, if your main partition is over 64Gb simply get a bigger one). Note: try to get a thin/slim USB drive. I got one that is kind of thick and had issues plugging in mouse, keyboard and the drive at the same time as the USB ports are close to each other. I got it to work but would 100% not recommend force I had to use... 2. Flas the latest JetPack 6.x onto the SD card, which was 6.1 for me. Aaaaand now I see it was just updated to 6.2.... sigh 3. Start up the Jetson Orin, went into the BIOS and set boot to the SD card. Went through the initial setup, get all updates etc. 4. Clone the github.com/jetsonhacks/migrate-jetson-to-ssd repo. 5. Open disks and make sure your USB drive does not have any partitions. 6. If you have expanded your NVME partition, shrink it back to a few more GB than you are using, to make sure it will fit on the USD drive 7. Run the make_partitions.sh script, with options -s /dev/nvme0n1 -d /dev/sda 8. It turns out the partitions on an NVME are named 'p1', 'p2' (so you get nvme0n1p1 etc). But partitions on a USB drive do NOT have that 'p' in the name, and the resulting partitions are named 'sda1' etc. The copy_partitions.sh is not designed for USB drives so a small change is required (be warned, I know practically nothing about .sh scripts but this worked for me..) Line 66, remove the 'p' in the DEST_PARTS: DEST_PARTS=$(lsblk -ln -o NAME -p "$DESTINATION" | grep -E "${DESTINATION}?[0-9]+$") Line 79, similar, remove the 'p' in DEST_PART: DEST_PART="${DESTINATION}${PART_NUM}" 9. Now run the copy_partitions.sh script with options -s /dev/nvme0n1 -d /dev/sda again and wait for the copy to complete. 10. Resize your NVME partition if you have shrunk it, shut down the Jetson and remove the SD Card and USB drive. It should boot from the USB drive when powering up, otherwise fix that in the BIOS. 11. Your USB drive should now contain a backup of your NVME drive. Restoring it is a matter of copying the USB drive partitions back to the NVME drive and probably running the configure_ssd_boot.sh script.

[@geppetto3244]

Hello Jim - Jetson hacks , i have a question... can we revert this ? So we can make a (backup-image?) of the ssd to an sd card and retrive it from sd when its neccesery? Thank you 🙂 ... just to know you have saved us a lot of times ....

[@rreybier]

Thank you for video , you mix cm and mmm by the way

[@rreybier]

No problem is am un uneducated européen i only understand inches (because of my thumb ) 😅

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. You caught me! All this new fangled metric stuff here in America always gets me. Thanks for watching!

[@JetsonHacks]

Lol. Americans don't have much less of an education, that's why we used our feet instead of something reasonable like a meter for measuring.

[@abdshomad]

I've been waiting for this 🎉 So, firstly, we needed to install JetPack in our Jetson Super on SD CARD, then when installation completed, we move it to SSD. This is because we can not "burn" the JetPack directly to SSD?

[@jakesullivan3017]

I used the SDK manager and flashed on the SSD directly. This is for a host free setup

[@JetsonHacks]

You could write the image to a SSD if you have the hardware to do so. However, and the part that is tricky, is updating the firmware/QSPI. It should be straightforward if you are running firmware version 36.3.0 or above; there is a program in the image which will schedule the firmware update on the next startup. However, if you have an older firmware (as many current Jetson Orin Nanos do), you may need to do the upgrade multiple times, using older versions of JetPack. I don't know how much testing has been done on SSDs as an upgrade path from older JetPacks. Instead, what is presented here is a firmware upgrade method which people have been using for several months, the SD card approach. Once you get the firmware upgraded, you're most of the way home. Of course, the only NVIDIA approved way to run from SSD is to use SDK Manager to download JetPack 6.1 rev1 and install it. This is in part because this is an interim release, and should be fixed when the next JetPack version is released later in January. Thanks for watching!

[@JetsonHacks]

That's a good way to do it, but is more painful for more casual users. I noticed that the SDK Manager had some major hiccups over the last week. Hopefully the next JetPack release will be smoother. Thanks for watching!

[@crismo7753]

Thanks for the nice Video! Before I make a wrong buy I have a question to you. I am very impressed by the huge computational power of the Jetson Orin Nano Super module. I have a Perl program which makes a tremendous number of computations with very long integer numbers. I couldn't find anywhere the right documentation about how to profit from the computational power without using CUDA and rewriting the whole program. I am afraid that only one CPU (and one GPU) core will be used and that's all. Does anywhere a parallel Perl program exists? If yes where can I find it? If not, how can I make a minimal effort for rewriting the program and/or using CUDA? Many thanks in advance!

[@JetsonHacks]

You are welcome. As to your questions, I don't have enough experience with Perl to answer them. In general, in order to profit from the performance boost on a Jetson, you use CUDA. I don't recall Perl being used in that context very often, though there are certainly ways to incorporate it by calling C Code. The Perl implementation will determine what steps need to be taken for using it on more than one CPU core. You have to remember that the Jetson is an ARM architecture, so code designed for x86/Windows machine may be difficult to port. Thanks for watching!

[@kincho4504]

Would this also work on the jetson orin nano

[@JetsonHacks]

The Jetson Orin Nano is the same as the Jetson Orin Nano Super.

[@bhaveshdamania750]

Thank you very much for this video...I was having hard time running thru SDK Manager due to GUI Display error. First try following this video the FAt32 partition was not copied because I had Swap memory as well as used the SSD for Docker following the guide...Formatting the SSD caused the nano to go in Emergency mode. Using Chatgpt it gave me steps to update the Fstab file and commenting out the entries... That worked and then I followd your steps and now I am sucesfully able to login thru the SSD. but using the JTOP commmand I still SWP as OFF in red how do I resolve that ?

[@JetsonHacks]

Sounds like quite the process! You can use jtop in the MEM tab to create a new Swap file. Thanks for watching!

[@bhaveshdamania750]

@@JetsonHacks Thank you will google for steps..your videos are very helpful for a beginner like me...

[@JetsonHacks]

@@bhaveshdamania750 You are welcome. I am glad you find the videos useful.

[@jpinyon]

Thanks for the vidoe. Do you think this will also work for AGX Orin's eMMC to SSD migration?

[@JetsonHacks]

I have not tested that particular case, but I think there is a high probability of success. However, the AGX Orin is such a different class of machine that it's worth it to invest in learning how to use the BSP and rootfs tools and/or use the SDK Manager. Thanks for watching!

[@jpinyon]

@@JetsonHacks Thank you for your kind reply. I will try it when I have the opportunity and report back.

[@geojaya]

Where I can buy Orin Nano Super

[@JetsonHacks]

Right now they're on back order, here's the link: nvda.ws/3OVTwBj Thanks for watching!

[@airatooo]

I have Orin nano dev kit from a year ago. Would this work on it? Is it the same hardware as the new super? Thanks!

[@JetsonHacks]

The hardware is the same, this method will work on it. First, you will need to upgrade the firmware and create a bootable SD card with Super mode enabled: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWmynKWLf92hh8U Thanks for watching, and let us know if you get it to work.

[@JohnWindberg]

I'm understanding that the super has faster ram, but this gets you the full OS and that third higher power level. Worked for me on my older orin nano

[@jethrobodean8585]

What would be the advantage of using SSD for robotics projects

[@JetsonHacks]

Several reasons. First, it’s much faster storage. Second, it’s more reliable as discussed in the video because it’s designed for operating system use. Third, and the reason I use a SSD, is that it is much more reliable because it’s not as reliant on the mechanical of the SD card reader. SD card readers are not as reliable as a simple connector on the board. Thanks for watching!

[@TT-it9gg]

Thanks for the vidoe. Seems mm? not cm?

[@JetsonHacks]

Yes that's correct. My American is showing. Thanks for watching!

[@JohnWindberg]

worked like a charm. However, I still do not see the green Nvidia bios startup screen any more. That went away after doing the install via sdk-manager, and I've found no way to get it back.

[@JetsonHacks]

I am glad you got it to work. When the JetPack 6.2 release comes out, it's probably worth flashing it to see if you can get the startup screen back. Thanks for watching!

[@jayeshfasate9380]

Will this process enable the CUDA?

[@JetsonHacks]

I'm not sure what "enable the CUDA" means. The SSD will have everything the SD card. The default SD card has CUDA and all of the support libraries installed. Thanks for watching!

[@geppetto3244]

Ευχαριστούμε!

[@carlodemicheli8278]

I just tried it with the latest version (36.4.3-gcid-38968081) running in super mode. I ran the scripts, but when I try to reboot from the SSD it scrolls through the usual messages and when it gets to Started RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service that's the last thing I see on the screen before it goes dark and starts blinking weirdly. The next text that appears is unreadable as it blinks quickly in super low resolution in the top left corner of the screen. I guess there's another line there, but can't read it. I tried ctrl+alt+f* at that point, but no luck. It boots fine if in the boot manager if I select the SD card, but if I select the SSD it does that. Any suggestions?

[@JetsonHacks]

How did you prepare the SSD? Were you using the SSD on the Jetson beforehand?

[@carlodemicheli8278]

@@JetsonHacks I removed all the partitions like shown at 8:21then I ran the three scripts, I think the partitions were ok because it loaded all the "scrolling text" after the nvidia screen, but then it stops and shows a black screen before showing the login screen. I tried flashing it later directly to the ssd via the sdk manager and it works fine.

[@kh5lil]

Do you know how to make jetson Nano runs on headless mode, no monitors please ? Easier on raspberry pi5 but wanted the same, thank you ❤

[@JetsonHacks]

I am not sure what you are asking. You should be able to SSH into it with nothing more than a network connection.

[@kh5lil]

@ Now that I’ve got your attention, let me restate my question: How do I access a Jetson Nano remotely via VNC without plugging in an HDMI monitor? One common workaround is using a dummy HDMI plug, which generally works well-but plenty of people online seem to be looking for a more direct solution. Of course, SSH is often better, but I don’t remember all the commands by heart, so I’d prefer using a VNC viewer and seeing the desktop directly, without having to hook up a monitor.

[@JetsonHacks]

@@kh5lil I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish. NVIDIA has instructions on using VNC on the Jetson: developer.nvidia.com/embedded/learn/tutorials/vnc-setup You can use NoMachine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYrVhHR6p9mGl8k It depends on the host machine you are using. You should ask in the official NVIDIA forums, where a large group of developers and NVIDIA engineers share their experience.

[@kh5lil]

@ I’ve got multiple machines running in different locations-like a Mac mini, Raspberry Pis, and a Jetson Nano-so I like using VNC with a vnc viewer to keep everything organized in one place. On my Jetson Nano, I installed a VNC server that works fine, but the moment I unplug the HDMI monitor, the connection drops because VNC needs an active display (either a real monitor or a dummy HDMI plug). Since I don’t have a hdmi plug. I’d really like to access my Jetson Nano remotely via VNC without needing to keep a monitor plugged in. There might be other ways to do this using no machine as pointed out , but I prefer VNC since it keeps things consistent with how I manage all my other machines.

[@JetsonHacks]

@@kh5lil One thing you might consider is asking your question on the official NVIDIA Jetson Nano forum. For example, if you look at this answer: forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/accessing-jetson-nano-with-vnc/170706/3 you might find something that resembles the task you are attempting to complete. If you read through the suggested README-vnc.txt, there will be more information there to help better inform your question. Good luck on your project.

[@xiangli1983]

what if I want to change back to Micro SD boot? what should we do?

[@JetsonHacks]

If you just insert the SD card, it will probably boot from there. If it does not, you can change the boot order in the boot manager. To access the boot manager, hit the ESC key when the Jetson first starting to boot and you are at the green screen. You can also reformat the SSD which will remove all the information from the SSD that it would use to boot and everything else on it.

[@PatrickLaffertyR]

👍

[@BenjiNotknown]

has anybody been successful running a jetpack .img in a virtual machine? is there anyway to change an .img to an .iso in order to try it?

[@JetsonHacks]

That's a good question, hopefully someone here sees it. I think the issue people run into is the way VMs handle USB. During the flash process, the Jetson disconnects and reconnects, and VMs tend to have trouble handling that. Over the years, people have come up with workarounds, but it is very dependent on which VM you are using. Thanks for watching!

[@jatu4180]

I think you mean mm, not cm?

[@JetsonHacks]

Yes. 80 CM would have much more storage capacity. I'm a silly American, I always seem to get that meter stuff wrong. Thanks for watching!

[@jatu4180]

Same here. Love your channel, thanks for all your good work. It makes my job so much easier.

[@JetsonHacks]

​@@jatu4180 You are welcome, I'm glad you find it useful. Thanks for watching!