Orion And The Dark Could've Been Great

Orion and the dark could've been great but they messed up, if you wanna know how you gotta watch the video...

[@dearkid_gacha]

I wish they didn’t try to make a “Oh plot twist he’s actually telling the story as an adult to his daughter” and then completely ruin everything by confusing the story, nothing he said actually happened and another “double plot twist! The daughter has a kid and Orion married his crush!” Like it was so confusing and I wasn’t able to relate to the characters anymore 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@dearkid_gacha]

@@TheGoldeneyeOfficial YES! It was so unnecessary 😭 And then they added her kid also that can time travel and shoot aliens? Idk anymore, it just when down hill after we met the daughter in the 2nd scene

[@txwtw]

It all went downhill from there lmao

[@ArtzieKit]

These types of endings kinda just indicate shitty writing.

[@alexv9851]

So let me get it all straight, first Orion told the story, then his daughter told the second half and then his grandson told the rest.

[@neonstix1035]

Like it was cute, but it would’ve been better if she wasn’t added into the story and if it was just executed at a better time

[@epicellableu5245]

IT LITERALLY WOULD'VE JUST BEEN BETTER IF THERE WAS JUST A REGULAR STORY WITHOUT ORION TELLING IT TO THE GIRL.

[@Jaxamation]

EXACTLY BRO I HATED THE DAUGHTER!

[@boxytheboy145]

Ikr

[@meebamsm]

@@Jaxamation hello there my friend (do you want to be friends)

[@CreativeNia]

I agree

[@kiboma4209]

Is there ever a story where that kinda plot twist makes the story better?

[@A_very_good_cheese]

What angers me the most is how they just targeted the dark and not the other fears of orion, really messed up there

[@Sleezy90]

In the sweet dreams scene, he faced them..kinda

[@lucasmatthiessen1570]

Imagine if there was also Heights, Water, Diseases, and other fear entities.

[@neonstix1035]

Would’ve been better if instead of dark it was fear and the elements of fear, and dark was an aspect of that aswell.

[@SinisterElite3Gaming]

As someone who is named Orion and is 12, the only relatable fear is the dogs one

[@berrykenn]

@@lucasmatthiessen1570 6:48

[@Goovdluck687]

The whole idea of him telling his daughter the story would have been fine if it was real. It did happen and he's telling his daughter about his experience to help her.

[@maximoesco]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@insertnamehere_o.o]

That's what I was thinking!! I didn't really like the scene where him and his daughter showed up but then I was like "oh well, at least the story is real, RIGHT?" When Hypatia entered the story I just gave up and realised the story wasn't real after all.

[@mightguy3118]

Exactly. The problem isn't him telling her the story, it's the fact the story isn't real and she's going in it altering shit and it just makes the movie a confusing mess

[@Angel_Auraa]

I think both the timing of the plot twist reveal and the fact the story isn't real are both engagement killers.

[@i_cant_fucking_breathe]

Fr! Like it could've been like "oh you shouldn't be scared of dark he's my homie" 😂

[@lasercraft32]

They could have fixed this in one of two ways... 1. Have a scene at the start of the movie that establishes the fact that he's telling the story to his daughter, or 2. Wait to reveal that its just a story until the very end of the movie. The premise of the story just kinda shifts halfway through so they could have this new meta storyline. They tried to have their cake and eat it too.

[@rosykindbunny1313]

Yeah, it completely throws off the plot to introduce the idea in the middle

[@Just_some_guy742]

Honestly, it would've been better if it did the cliché, it was a story, but his daughter saw the dark, and saw that the story is true.

[@skippyskyro7450]

They also shouldn't have included the whole "Hypatia helping Orion" plotline. It just really muddles up the movie and makes it lose its focus. Like, wasn't this film supposed to be about Orion overcoming his fears? Why did the writers just completely forget that towards the end and have a sci-fi time traveling scene that felt like it was from a different movie entirely?

[@Angel_Auraa]

I AGREE. Jamming it awkwardly into the first 25 minutes wasn't it. It's usually at the beginning or near the end.

[@DannyRBX1]

And not change the story from 3 people

[@rocoscott7195]

I thought this movie would be bad after the reveal that it's a story but at the end it's a family passing a story down until the last kid used his child wonder and makes a bad ending but good for a kid, it's beautiful

[@BreakfastKing420]

Yeah I had the same thought, it’s like something a kid would come up with which doesn’t make sense but he just thinks it’s cool

[@avacado4706]

that's what I was thinking :)

[@Jelllyboi]

Here’s my thoughts on that scene: a nicado avocado hair looking kid ruins the story

[@phantomparasite7026]

I was so excited for this movie when I saw the trailer but then that- DAMNED SCENE OF HIM AND HIS DAUGHTER HAPPENS AND it just feels like all the magic the film was setting up just gets totally washed away 😭😭

[@skincare.34]

frrr after u see taht the fun hoes away and its not intressting

[@Angel_Auraa]

@@phantomparasite7026 Yeah it’s an awkwardly early time to introduce a plot twist. Usually, in 99.9% of film, it’s in the third act.

[@Angel_Auraa]

@@phantomparasite7026 Near the end.

[@bandanarathore]

Also too much verbal philosophy for a child centered movie

[@justinpassing4003]

It sounds like this movie's biggest flaw is that Orion telling his daughter a bedtime story about conquering one's fears, was written as a mid-point twist. If the movie had begun with Orion telling the bedtime story to his daughter, the movie would probably be more cohesive.

[@JustaRandomDunce]

THE BEGINNING WAS SO GOOD UNTIL THE FRICKIN SELF INSERT. WHY DREAMWORKS???? WHY??????? MOM IM FAMOUS

[@frosty4822]

I SERIOUSLY AGREE WITH YOU THE SELF INSERT RUINED THE WHOLE MOVIE FOR ME

[@Angel_Auraa]

You mean the plot twist?

[@frosty4822]

@Angel_Auraa in the later stages of the movie, Orion tells his daughter that Dark kills himself (yes, no joke), and his daughter decides to put herself in Orion's story and well help young Orion out

[@madelinestraumanis219]

I fully agree with you. The minute they showed this was a fake story, that kind of ruined it for me. But I tried to give it a chance thinking that once the story ended Hypatia would still be scared of the dark. Only for Dark himself to show up a few minutes later, and have her realize the story her dad was telling really was true. But no, they decided to keep it fake, and add a disoriented story plots that didn’t make much sense. I think I would’ve actually liked this movie if Hypatia and later Tiko hadn’t interfered in the story, and adding themselves into it as well. That just didn’t sit well with me.

[@shyguygaming3150]

Couldn't agree more. I haven't watched the movie before this video and once he explained how the movie decided to make the story fake it honestly got on my nerves. It doesn't help that it kept getting more annoying the further it got, like it was so perfect why did you just decide to f*ck it all up.

[@JeffDoorsFloor2]

the second the daughter appeared i knew the movie was gonna go downhill, i havent even watched this but i know we are thinking the same thing

[@mayson696]

Bruh

[@ZGlove.]

This is "Had me in the first half, not gonna lie" the movie.

[@Angel_Auraa]

Had me in the first 25 minutes 😂

[@Acrossdalando]

Onion and the dark

[@Orange-tophatter]

Wonderful

[@frying_pann]

Lmao

[@alanhumanguy]

I wanna see that movie

[@KenBot_Official]

Onion and the duck

[@JoeFart-y1c]

Dark and the onion

[@Cryogurt]

Brooo, I agree so much!!! I loved the movie until the ending. The ending ruined it so much…

[@crisananca313]

the ret conning ruined it before the ending!

[@zainabbatool3179]

The things that could inprove and fix in this movie 1.The story 2.the plot twists 3.the ending 4.the other entities 5.a magical land 5.cool dark entity vs light entity lore Thats it,thats how i fix this movie

[@RispGD]

I honestly can't believe how they messed this movie up so badly 💀. Like bro, there is no way they got someone to watch this before releasing it to the public without someone mentioning how the story just falls apart due to everything not being real in the plot

[@Gooferthe3rd]

i like to think that the girl introduced and weird time travel never happened and the movie went along with orion and the entity's just came for him and the rest of the movie happens also why would the story not be real!?!?!?! i hated that part too where he says the story is not real to

[@ediakin4993]

We can just erase all bad part (all tgat include cringe daughter and even more cringe grandson) and just got a good movie😅

[@Gooferthe3rd]

@@ediakin4993 fr they messed it up so hard

[@Dandanthemermaidman333]

I thought it was onion and the dark tbh

[@Tomw1983theidiot]

lol

[@TheGoldeneyeOfficial]

same

[@Noarius_william]

I thought it was oreo and the dark

[@geniuslynormal7213]

it should be

[@jaysmasterpiece]

Oreo and the duck

[@ripmattidk]

if they never added the old orion part and hypatia and the random time boy then this movie couldve been a 7.7 out of 10

[@mathieuleader8601]

the ending felt like a kid version of Rick and Morty

[@masterreece1098]

saw the movie not too long ago, it was alright but it was kinda disappointing seeing the movie being told as a fictional story through the perspective of a grown orion, they could of potentially expanded the universe with a sequel if the night entities were actually real

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

I feel like it would be so much better if he told his daughter it was a story, but at the end scene when he’s really old and he’s sitting all alone on the balcony, I wish dark popped up it was like “hey kid, it’s been a while”. And then Orion just smiles in the movie ends! That would have been so good!

[@SuperFocusYT]

This movie probably could've got 80-90% on rotten tomatoes (audience score) if they literally just removed "the story's not real" and the part where she just jumps in the story like that makes any sense whatsoever

[@Aliengrove]

At first I was so happy seeing the start of the movie bc I have *extreme* paranoia just like child Orion so I can relate to him, but the ''everything is made up'' indeed ruined everything!!

[@Nutella626]

I think that adult Orion is saying “it’s not real” is because he doesn’t want his daughter to try to go on the same goose chase of facelift fears that he has been on. And I also think that the reason why he’s still “afriad of the dark” is because he is still a bit unsettled by it but is not as scared of dark and the others anymore or, atleast not as much as before.

[@ediakin4993]

he realized that he was not afraid of the darkness, but of the monsters that were hiding in it. Like everyone else, I believe we are not afraid of the dark, but because we are vulnerable because we rely too much on our eyesight

[@jaysmasterpiece]

Oreo and the duck

[@maximoesco]

🍪🦆

[@JulianoAJ]

Over the past 10 years i ended up learning to never have much expectations with DreamWorks movies...

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

It's dreamworks they work in ways that should be expected.

[@kazuichisouda2487]

​@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265Netflix film, not dreamworks

[@TheTuffty76]

This story could've been AMAZING! To be fair though, it depends what happens in the actual book (since the movie was based on a book). Still, really a shame how it turned out. Devastated.

[@MisoSanSoup]

This movie was SUCH a mess. It was going alright EVEN AFTER the first Hypatia scene believe it or not. But they just kept pushing this narrative further and further, and forced the future shenanigans down our throats like they're nagging you to remember that it's all not real. WHATS THE POINT OF THE STORY THEN? A story has to be immersive! but no, they kept poking you like they're trying to grab your attention to the fact that this is all not real. AND they always cut to older Orion in the most terrible moments! not only that, but the did NOTHING with Light's narrative when they were clearly building him up to come back later and do something! Also the night entities seemed like such, insufferable, horrible people. They just immediately backstabbed Dark. I'm so disappointed because I genuinely thought it was going great at first.

[@baalfgames5318]

Wait, when was it released? Also, how many movies are DreamWorks releasing in just this month?

[@whoever5526]

Bit ago, on Netflix.

[@superplush9987]

I started it and thought everyone who said it was trash was wrong, then I got to the grandson part and agreed with everyone

[@Logerz-db9te]

Hypacia lowkey looks like a 2d model while orion looks like a 3d model Idk why this is but it looks like this for me at least.

[@larasimoes142]

As soon they introduced that it was actually just Orion telling the story to his daughter, i just didn't care about the film anymore

[@meebamsm]

1:34 SpongeBob Reference? Btw theres a episode where spongebob reads a scary story and he places millions of nightlights

[@Player_2_MV]

For the first half an hour of this movie, i was HYPED. Netflix was teasing me with trailers coming out everyday, and when it finally came out, when it was revealed that it was just made-up? I just dropped the movie as soon as i could. when the flying turtle scene and the daughter self inserting came on, i turned the tv off.

[@danisvircevich6208]

They should've just cut out the whole "surprise-its-all-fake" and the "time-travelling-elves-and-time-monsters" part

[@birajsingha9879]

To me though: The story is almost fine, even when we see adult Orion telling his daughter a bed time story. Maybe that's a story he didn't made up at that same instance. Maybe earlier he tried and told other stories to his daughter but it didn't work out for her daughter to overcome her fear of the dark, so he thought "i think this, the most personal story of mine about how i became friends with the dark has to be told". So he told *the movie version story* to her daughter and simultaneously telling about his childhood life, his parents, his crush, his *other fears*, how everyone didn't understand his feelings about the fear of the dark, but eventually they'll help him, in their own way, and so so, to her. But wait, it's not a ONE DEAL story. He became friends with Dark that's ok but it took time to actually overcome his fear of the dark. I mean, Dark (as an entity) is his friend but overall he's still a little bit scared of the Dark (the natural phenomenon). Ofc, lots of problems will arise eventually, specially "fear of the unknown". The walking down the street scene in the night with his daughter, it could've been a little more challenging if he could've just walk with his daughter to that park. Ofc his daughter will be scared but that same time he will tell the rest of he story about overcoming his real fear of the dark (the phenomenon). Eventually, it'll be a Twilight. His daughter can experience the meaning of both (Dark and Light) at that frickin same time and understand "it's ok to be scared of dark but sometimes dark can show you something that only be possible of the dark; Dusk and Twilight. They'll hug and shed a tear and go their home. ...and Orion's story will eventually pass on to his daughter and to his grand child. But ofc, not everyone will be impacted the same but eventually it'll. It'll take time to overcome the fear of the dark. and at the final scene, Orion and his wife (childhood crush) gazing at the night sky with glittering stars and then cut to the planetarium scene, they'll touch their hands, slightly. Frickin THE END PS- sorry for too long of a post and grammatical errors. Peace 🕊️ ✌️

[@supershoutmonx8327]

That ending was comedic genius

[@Lost_Man_2023-YTKP]

“The Dark” looks like my Profile Picture.

[@hypersniper71]

Not rlly

[@someoneelseishere5964]

Ooooookay........ I'm gonna create a bit of a balance here and say that. I actually liked the movie and how it ended. Even though a little part of me wishes everything was real in that movie's universe, at the same time, I actually like the route they went with it just being a story the dad made up, because usually in movies/shows, the magical beings are real in the cartoon universe the characters live in. I like the more realistic approach they went. And yes I know, not everything has to be realistic especially in fiction, but I like it when some movies add a bit of realism here and there. And I didn't mind that the daughter added herself in the completely made up story her dad couldn't finish, sure it was weird, but she's was an imaginative and creative kid, I didn't expect it to her approach be totally normal I mean, the whole thing was made up from the beginning, with Dark and the other magical entities. Plus, her son and the whole time travel entry wasn't weird or rushed to me (Keywords: TO ME), just another imaginative, creative kid helping his stuck parent finish the story, it was cute in my opinion. Apparently people find the plot twists of it being made up story a dad is telling to his daughter and then the daughter having her own kid and it being revealed that Orion married his childhood crush confusing and unrelatable? But personally I wasn't confused by any of it and I find the reveal of Orion marrying his crush to be more predictable than confusing. Plus, I was still able to relate to the characters. Overall, I'm satisfied with the movie and it's ending. I may be the only one, but 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@TheRodrigoGurl]

Thank you it wasnt bad or good

[@VasquezM09]

thank you! I feel the same way

[@Coughs_up_nails]

Fr

[@noonlolz_x]

I feel the exact same, I feel like what really killed it for everyone is the self insert of hypatia (I hope I spelled her name right) and the fact that they didn't out right tell us it was made up in the beginning. Pretty sure everyone was expecting a magical story that actually happened to Orian

[@scolveldynasty]

a quick fix would have been making it a story that orion told himself as a kid to comfort it. that and giving clues that it was just a story. also do you believe in gosts

[@TheNightshadeThirteen]

I would've been fine with the whole thing if the grandson hadn't shown up and ended the story with time travel.

[@InvasionAnimation]

I hate the scene with his kid in it.

[@-itzkofiartz-8193]

I agree

[@Cage0]

It was fine but I hates all the plot twists I wish it was just a boy who is scared and overcomes his fears what was the whole time travel thing about too 😭

[@lovkarts]

This movie tried to do what Umineko did, but it's really really rushed. I belive they could've done better if they had more time to flesh out the meta aspects.

[@Angel_Auraa]

I just tried watching it myself and when they switch to adult Orion in the first act with zero warning right before a core moment in the movie I was like "... Why did they do that?" 😅 On top of that I felt like unlike Corpse Bride or Coraline I just found it hard to get into, maybe since I'm an adult and this is very much a middle schooler story. I tried watching for Jacob Tremblay but man.

[@K_M_yeehaw]

"Hypatia" Subtitles: "HIPAA"

[@hypersniper71]

Lol had to put the subtitles on to see that

[@flarezizkool8877]

The ending jumbled my brain like a broken rubix cube

[@acalebm]

To be honest, I thought it was deeply implied that the story told by Adult Orion was an exaggeration of what actually happened to him; putting a neat spin on his own personal experiences for his daughter to understand.

[@aidensonpc]

that whole bed time story part kinda didnt hit but still a good movie

[@MooshMakesStuff]

Idk why this movie gave me 2015-2016 analog horror vibes

[@TravisTheGoofball]

I actually thought this was a show😭

[@FunniClapboard]

Watching it I was like “wow this is actually good” until the last half where a literal self insert appears and time travel?…monsters?

[@_Sami__]

Boss baby did a better job with the dad telling the movie as a story to his daughter thing than this movie did

[@TonyPratt-pw3yt]

At least the story is real in boss baby 😅😭

[@MEIMEII126]

They could have had the scene where Orion is telling the story to his daughter at the end 🙄 like don’t mess it up and ruin the movie for everyone 💀

[@kallisaurusrexanimations]

“He just like me fr😭”

[@pinco1749]

the movie was amazing until they changed it to a story being told by orions daughter

[@mrblue___]

Before I watch this, just wanna say that I just finished watching the movie after it’s been in my watchlist for a few months and I loved it. Sigh, alright here we go.

[@Astrolionking]

I only really disagree with Orion being afraid. Fears don’t go away completely, they stay there. That’s realistic!

[@Angel_Auraa]

They showed the plot twist too early, before we could bond with the characters, and right before what was supposd to be a fun scene.

[@Knights-of-Redcliff]

Bro the moment I saw that scene I smacked my table and groaned. They comepletely ruined the movie and said that it was just a story and that it had no meaning or any kind of lesson.

[@BlakerBoi]

This movie was so random. It went from the story of Orion and the dark, which turned into grown up Orion telling the story to her daughter, to the daughter which turns into a tech kid traveling to Orion and the daughter, to the daughter being a grown up and the tech kid is actually her son, which means Orion is an old grandpa- like what

[@rosykindbunny1313]

THANK YOU! I loved the Dark and the Night Entities, and I was wondering why everyone said the movie was mid. And then Hypatia was introduced. Ohhhhh man, words can't describe how much I hate her character and how she's suddenly inserted into Orion's story. She adds nothing to the film, and she had no reason to influence the plot that much.

[@PrestonTheSooza]

So what ur telling me.. is that the main story was a story that was also a story?

[@maximoesco]

yes

[@yipppeeeeguy_512]

if you know. Bfdi you know Woody he is scared of everything. And that kid is woody

[@mathieuleader8601]

this film has stellar voice-acting!

[@the_terminator0357]

I kinda just wish that they never introduced the daughter, which probably would just stop the movie from making no sense.

[@Karonclip]

Orion more like onion it stink bad ads and new risky move

[@HugestPuge]

1. Whenever the daughter joined in, it made no sense at all because that was an old story of Orion when he was young. Yes I know there’s a Time Machine which is why the daughters there but it just ruined it that why she’s there.

[@kruggerjrthe2nd235]

onion and the fork

[@maximoesco]

🍴

[@wackycrazy]

Dark is depressed

[@Scouse_Lad]

They could have made it great if the girl and the girls son did not bump in or He just didn’t tell it to her.

[@HewerIsTheOnePiece]

dark

[@KawaiiHippityHop-cl5bb]

Who the heck is afraid of saying “good morning”? I mean, even Kinger loves saying “good morning”, especially to Ragatha and Gangle. (AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS)

[@LincolnAramayo]

Theory: The story still happened but Orion doesn't remember

[@reignellwalker9755]

this movie was awesome

[@mrkrabshankandersonreal]

Dark, darker yet darker

[@Tahmin]

Omg I’m so glad I found other people that agree with me about the end, it had such a high rating as well

[@rudydoesstuff111]

i'm so glad someone else agrees i recently watched it and i liked it up until the point the daughter joined the story.. even with the time travel part.. it was just.. weird? confusing?? and it killed the whole plot for me.. as a plus i think the dark vs light thingamajig couldve been executed better also there should've been more sally mentions i don't think their relationship was too emphasized oh also dark

[@alexthedemon2203]

Finn from adventure time was afraid of the ocean

[@Littlebitofeverything-l2z]

Nice reference

[@Orion3800]

I like this movie!!!🙂

[@Noarius_william]

Orion

[@Fudgebrowney]

Orion

[@dessaronsmith8943]

Orion

[@TidyBear]

Orion

[@Rapscalllion]

Orion

[@CGStudios177]

Orion

[@NoN053]

I liked the “story is told in the future” plot twist. What I don’t like is that THEY HAVE 9 BEJILION PLOT TWISTS

[@hellothere-dc4ju]

the guy below you watched this video in light mode

[@NoN053]

@@hellothere-dc4ju wut

[@knowledgeableawesome]

Commenting “dark” because you forced me to

[@moniqueperkinsmp]

i feel like the scene with his daughter should've played at the end at the film tbh.

[@dianemarie-is9qx]

The problem I have with going back in time is, how do you know that the kid will still exist?…. because depending on what time it is, his crush could’ve been in a different mood and met another boy

[@YayerSlayer2012]

The film went very out of context

[@CirclingTheDead]

That’s because the GOAT Charlie Kaufman wrote the first 30 minutes of this film and then Dreamworks brought in several writers to change his script

[@LinkBrummell]

I had the exact same idea for this. I thought that Hypatia is just ruining the story, and I was as well devastated when they said the story isn’t real. When I said something about Hypatia, I was called sexist… at least someone here agrees with me.

[@Splatey]

onion and the black people

[@FNAF-GUY11]

It was good until plot twist he was telling the story and he made it all up

[@jocelynecupcake]

Tbh I think Orion and the Dark was better than Trolls 3. DreamWorks should have released it in theaters instead of stupid Netflix

[@ninesevenpotatoes]

While I definitely liked most aspects of the movie, and view it fondly, the "storyline" subplot definitely was the thing that irked me the most about the movie, and ruined a bit of the ending as well. It's like if Inside Out was just a story Riley told to her own daughter. Maybe it'd make more sense if they established it was a story in the beginning. Also, I wish they were more consistent and subtle with the messages; for example, at some point in the movie (and I don't remember what was the quote was but it's similar) Orion's daughter straight up says something like "Why are you simplifying the story? Kids can comprehend more mature subjects" or something like that. You didn't need that. I feel like they added those bits because they were stuck in plot, and simply needed a reason to help connect it together more smoothly. There's so much I like about this movie, but still much more that could've been better.

[@st4rb3rry0l1v3r]

Tbh....they had only one job....make him face his fears.... realize there is nothing to fear....And just end it there

[@ItzChloeeeee]

I do like That Movie but cmon that twist was so random and it made the movie confusing I still don’t properly know what’s going on like he’s a kid oooo guess what? Hes actually an adult!! Jkkkk he’s truly an old man!!!>:33333 idk?

[@ethanbarker5530]

Quite is the best character hands down.

[@alexv9851]

I only wish they hadn’t shown them both old.

[@Blue_Screaming_Bird]

I usually like most movies I watch but this one, this one.. I really agree with you on the “its everywhere” i just can’t understand some parts and had to rewatch it sometimes. I thought it was gonna be about Orion’s school life and how every fear of his has a lil entity but dark is literally 50% of the entire movie. I don’t like any of the hypatia parts as well it’s out of reach yk? 5/10 since I like movies

[@UndeadRooster]

EXACTLY as soon as I saw this scene I verbally said “whaaaaat” and I was disappointed the rest of the movie

[@wonderwanderwithasadel]

Dark