What's Wrong With Being Gay?

[@constantines.9009]

What’s wrong with being gay and if we all are sinners, what’s the difference? Well, according to my spiritual father Nectarios who is a Saintly man his response to me was…. when we sin we quickly try and correct our sin by going to confession and refrain from doing that sin again, the homosexuals accept a lifestyle of sin and do not repent.

[@Blkglssjw]

Exactly! They’ve made a commitment to continue to repeat the same sin over and over again. They’re not trying to change and repent at all.

[@polha4966]

they need psychological therapy to overcome the trauma... instead they try to embrace the gayism to say it s ok that nothing happened to them... because they dont wanna face their demons... They are made gay by enviroment and sexual abuse as kids. There s no gay gene as the biggest recent scientific research in 2022 on gays has shown/ google there s no gay gene and you ll find it for yourself

[@antonyc6816]

This is precisely the case. A gay sinful act isn’t more of a sin than, say, pride or lust- regardless of the sin, we must repent and not justify it as being good, as only God knows what is good. We rely on the scripture and apostolic tradition for truth. Each man must bear his cross, and a man with displaced sexual desire must try to repent and avoid acts of the flesh.

[@polha4966]

@@antonyc6816 find a woman asap

[@DauzatDave]

NGL that hits deep

[@Momonga32]

It's scary how common this is becoming in the west

[@ethansevilla1395]

In the Philippines where I grew up, it’s like every other man, ironic as the country is mostly Roman Catholic. It’s common to see them as babysitters or maids. And they are very touchy especially to western men.

[@daltonlamari9446]

As if there was a time it wasn't? It's always been around. Turkey is rampant with homosexuality, and its not western AND predominantly muslim. Only difference with the West is that it is made more explicit rather than kept quiet.

[@Maaroussia]

My thoughts exactly

[@pierceh.5670]

@@ethansevilla1395exactly it’s everywhere, and even the Islamic world appears to be against it, it is very common too.

[@daltonlamari9446]

@@ethansevilla1395 It's always been common. Turkey is rampant with it. Don't let anyone convince you there's been "the good ol' days", there never was.

[@ProtestantismLeftBehind]

Sinful passions explained by some people are wrongly thought to define their humanity. Such people can’t justify why they think this way, but rather they just embrace their sinful passions and describe them as defining them. It is a subjective opinion they have, which enables a patient loving apologetic to be formed and the truth professed. Ty Fr Peter.

[@seanthompsen4046]

That's an awesome way to think about it. It's self definition in a very base and individual way. I don't think it's too different from someone grounding their being in the fact that they like eating ice cream too much. But it's worse than that because it turns the other person into an object of desire.

[@ProtestantismLeftBehind]

@@seanthompsen4046They become their own autonomous ultimate authority that describes their own image and likeness apart from God.

[@seanthompsen4046]

@ProtestantismLeftBehind sounds like exactly what the servant offered in the garden. Too often, I find myself accepting that offer in all areas of life.

[@Remind_me_to_pray]

Struggling with this myself

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

Remember to pray! God bless😉

[@alexanderuser1282]

May prayer and the partecipation in the life of the Chruch alleviate your struggles. God bless.

[@agisilaoszenempisis215]

Ότι δεν είναι σύμφωνα με το Θέλημά του Θεού είναι αμαρτία.Καλα ορθόδοξα Χριστουγγενα.

[@philippas8422]

Same i know it’s wrong but it’s hard to change atheistic habits developed growing up. Truly disgusted of myself

[@onlyjoshing]

Lord have mercy. Christ says he will separate the wheat from the chaff. We must pray he separates us from our passions so that we may be called children of God.

[@jesseolive7675]

Answer; Everything when acted upon mentality or physically.

[@PilgrimSonnet]

Everything.

[@spungypizzacaker]

Umm.. hello based department?

[@dienekesghost6132]

lol sums it up

[@imananonymoususer831]

And your sinless, correct?

[@nope24601]

Do you know the coals they must walk on?

[@PilgrimSonnet]

@@imananonymoususer831 nah, im the worse sinner to ever live.

[@agisilaoszenempisis215]

Καλα Χριστουγγενα απο την δυση εως την ανατολη.Ανατολης ανατολων Δοξα τω Θεω παντων ενεκεν.

[@riccardozorn1822]

This reminds me of this hilarious ugandan interview. *"Why are you gae?"*

[@billhicks9056]

Came here to make this same comment 😅

[@ElonMuskrat-my8jy]

Who is gae?

[@Ortho-Station]

mista, should i call you mista

[@gknight686]

"PASTAH, PASTAH!"😂

[@maria09mp]

Happy Blessed New Year. Very well explained Pater. I pray for everyone struggling or not struggling to remain close to God and His teachings. Peace and Love.

[@danielgaley9676]

"Detestable in the eyes of the Lord."

[@stevensonrf]

Probably one of the best answers to this question I’ve ever heard. We need to ask who is Christ first and foremost! You are absolutely 100% right😇👍

[@WORKOUTSOLUTIONS]

✝ HAPPY NEW YEAR ✝ 🕊️🙏 GOD BE WITH US AGAINST EVIL AND TEMPTATIONS 💪☀️

[@jackflynn412]

Thank you Father, I know someone who is interested in Orthodoxy but didn’t understand why certain acts are considered sins. I tried to explain that homosexuality wasn’t a part of God’s intended design but you said it a lot better.

[@Ronin-Cross]

Being a parent and partaking in creation alongside God then feeling the love of a parent for their child; that's the most important lesson and experience we can ever have. To understand that love is to understand "For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son". Homosexuality takes away that gift of understanding life and love and replaces it with death; love that does not bring life. That's one reason why God calls it an abomination.

[@ElonMuskrat-my8jy]

Are only parents able to understand life and love?

[@gknight686]

@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy Something tells me you're not a parent lol

[@gknight686]

@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy Lol something tells me you're not a parent

[@elenihelenmelb]

⁠@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy Of course not - we are all a family United in One Tree ( church) with many branches of the Same Church unity + LOVE that Jesus Christ speaks of is not the ‘ love is love’ ( lust) but a Charitable love - Saint Kosmas +1779+ In his teachings said to those parents that could not have children - to love orphaned children and feed the orphaned children as you would your own + ICXC NIKA

[@CursedCommentaries]

Its an affliction not a virtue

[@louisilapan9804]

What’s not wrong with it

[@imananonymoususer831]

Are you sinless?

[@gknight686]

@@imananonymoususer831 Are you?

[@Taison77]

@@imananonymoususer831 No, but it's not ok. Would we have the same discussion if I was a serial killer? Or a pdf file? A scammer? "But it's between two consenting adults!" Yeah, if a person was suicidal and I pulled the trigger, I'm still going to jail.

[@imananonymoususer831]

@@gknight686 No, are you?

[@gknight686]

@@imananonymoususer831 No. So what's the point of your question?

[@Kyriakyriaki-onlyaservant]

Praying for the people who are afflicted by homosexuality to truly repent and find God's mercy.

[@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer]

Thank you!

[@joshevans4322]

Our Lord Jesus Christ's first public miracle was at a wedding. This has profound significance when you really think deeply about it. ☦️

[@iamKONSTANTINOS]

... And as Christians, we are to conquer our flesh.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Another good way to put it is to conquer our tainted nature and bring our bodies in line with our true ordered nature and moral good.

[@nicko9046]

Hopefully this stays up on pro-censorship KZbin. Thank you, Father, for your bravery!

[@colmcille9669]

I used to be a convicted atheist and was educated in biology so I did understand these parasexualities were not the original design and I also saw through a lot of the twisting of genetic evidence to be something that we all wanted it to be - i.e. an innate on/off switch - because I had a better grasp of exactly how genes work than most of my lgbt activist friends, but that didn't matter to me. Things can be repurposed, after all, and I couldn't see the harm in it even though I actually lived out a cycle of development in that direction that felt bad but was impossible to judge until I met God, learned He was Christ, and He brought light to the shadows in my soul. The thing that changed as regards my intellectual "opinion" on homosexuality was that once God is seen as real, ontology suddenly matters. The original design becomes a target that makes even a slight erring to either side less ideal. To miss the mark is literally and figuratively sin. This also shifts the recognition of it as a sin from the hateful judgment I once interpreted Christians as conveying (in fairness, many do) but I do think it is impossible to make a non-believer understand. They don't give weight to ontology. The only thing that changed me was God. First and foremost share God and trust Him to change others. Honestly if He changed me it can happen to anyone who is at least willing to bow to truth.

[@gknight686]

Can you tell me a little bit more about the biology aspect of it? I'm curious what your perspective is

[@danielalonso5026]

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[@colmcille9669]

@@gknight686 Well first thing is that there's a lot of room around what we know for more details. That immediately should stifle any certain statements about a lot of things. Second, what is known is a lot more complicated than the simplified statements used to begin introducing the model to students, and the more complex the organism, the more complex the genome. So where we learn about a gene for tall pea plants and another for short pea plants, or for different colour flowers etc., this is all well and good but if you stop there, it might be easier to believe that there is a gene that makes one "straight" or "gay" when you read headlines that imply this based on papers few read in full or with full context. Even with Gregor Mendel's pea plant experiments we all study in school, if you repeat them you will not get such neat results. He certainly removed the outliers. And that's fine because he was honing in on an as-yet-unnoticed pattern and he hadn't agreed to any sophisticated scientific methodology based on lessons in the future. But in those fuzzy edges of his data set lay clues of more complication, at least some of which we now understand from studies in proteomics or epigenetics. The reality is that, just as in every scale of reality from atoms to molecular chemistry, cells, nervous systems, ecological relationships and politics, a complexity of genes operate in a complex environment. No one factor defines the results. Now some results/phenotypes from particular genotypes will be higher or lower on a structural caussl hierarchy - being human, being male or female, having functioning nervous and endocrine systems, and even these are influenced by the environment in utero and during development. Hormonal balance, nutrition, parental relationships, modeled behaviour, etc. So there are certainly genetic factors that influence the development of homosexual desires but they do not correspond to the level of causal hierarchy in the original design of sexual parts and nor do their environmental or social factors correspond to the level of causal hierarchy of the original design. Rather, they are always modification of an underlying structure designed for sexual reproduction. Now, again this is not a point that renders study of the genetic factors as illegitimate. From a geneticist's point of view, all genomic structures are causal hierarchied developed over time by such modifications. A geneticist can isolate any set of genes associated with a trait (appearing significantly more in individuals with that trait) whether it's high or low intelligence, cancer or cancer-resistance, or homosexuality or gender disphoria. They can then ask if those genes are adaptive - leading to greater reproductive success - or not. There is no reason to dismiss such questions and they can lead to understanding of how things work. They don't, however, have the bearing on moral or spiritual reality that I (before encountering God) and many would like them to have. Whether or not something is adaptive does not distinguish right or wrong. It can be very adaptive to murder all reproductive competition, or r**e. Of course, this depends on context. In most human societies this would not be adaptive because people would group together against such people but it depends. I'm just picking extremes to undermine a supposed principle. A strong hypothesis of adaptiveness for homosexuality is kin-selection. Essentially, if resources are low, or competition high, having a few gay relatives with time and energy to help you raise your children could raise their success in the next generation. If memory serves, there is strong evidence of this in Pacific Island populations. It still has nothing to do with morals or metaphysics, nor does it contradict the Biblical narrative where we see a God who endures a fallen world and constantly knits good from fallen material. Hope this answers your question to some degree.

[@colmcille9669]

@@gknight686 @gknight686 @gknight686 @gknight686 Well first thing is that there's a lot of room around what we know for more details. That immediately should stifle any certain statements about a lot of things. Second, what is known is a lot more complicated than the simplified statements used to begin introducing the model to students, and the more complex the organism, the more complex the genome. So where we learn about a gene for tall pea plants and another for short pea plants, or for different colour flowers etc., this is all well and good but if you stop there, it might be easier to believe that there is a gene that makes one "straight" or "gay" when you read headlines that imply this based on papers few read in full or with full context. Even with Gregor Mendel's pea plant experiments we all study in school, if you repeat them you will not get such neat results. He certainly removed the outliers. And that's fine because he was honing in on an as-yet-unnoticed pattern and he hadn't agreed to any sophisticated scientific methodology based on lessons in the future. But in those fuzzy edges of his data set lay clues of more complication, at least some of which we now understand from studies in proteomics or epigenetics. The reality is that, just as in every scale of reality from atoms to molecular chemistry, cells, nervous systems, ecological relationships and politics, a complexity of genes operate in a complex environment. No one factor defines the results. Now some results/phenotypes from particular genotypes will be higher or lower on a structural caussl hierarchy - being human, being male or female, having functioning nervous and endocrine systems, and even these are influenced by the environment in utero and during development. Hormonal balance, nutrition, parental relationships, modeled behaviour, etc. So there are certainly genetic factors that influence the development of homosexual desires but they do not correspond to the level of causal hierarchy in the original design of sexual parts and nor do their environmental or social factors correspond to the level of causal hierarchy of the original design. Rather, they are always modification of an underlying structure designed for sexual reproduction. Now, again this is not a point that renders study of the genetic factors as illegitimate. From a geneticist's point of view, all genomic structures are causal hierarchied developed over time by such modifications. A geneticist can isolate any set of genes associated with a trait (appearing significantly more in individuals with that trait) whether it's high or low intelligence, cancer or cancer-resistance, or homosexuality or gender disphoria. They can then ask if those genes are adaptive - leading to greater reproductive success - or not. There is no reason to dismiss such questions and they can lead to understanding of how things work. They don't, however, have the bearing on moral or spiritual reality that I (before encountering God) and many would like them to have. Whether or not something is adaptive does not distinguish right or wrong. It can be very adaptive to destroy all reproductive competition, or forceably reproduce. Of course, this depends on context. In most human societies this would not be adaptive because people would group together against such people but it depends. I'm just picking extremes to undermine a supposed principle. A strong hypothesis of adaptiveness for homosexuality is kin-selection. Essentially, if resources are low, or competition high, having a few gay relatives with time and energy to help you raise your children could raise their success in the next generation. If memory serves, there is strong evidence of this in Pacific Island populations. It still has nothing to do with morals or metaphysics, nor does it contradict the Biblical narrative where we see a God who endures a fallen world and constantly knits good from fallen material. Hope this answers your question to some degree.

[@colmcille9669]

@@gknight686 Ok so I've made 4 attempts to reply and none have published. I've tried removing a couple of potentially censorable words but might have to censor the actual H word too. I've copy/pasted it to save and will check back later in case it does post meantime.

[@mariavlahochristos7756]

Ευχαριστώ πάτερ

[@madmartigan1634]

How on Earth did "eros" go from "yearning for God" to its contemporary definition?

[@Andrew_Schaefer]

What is the contemporary definition that you are referring to?

[@fudoshin4407]

Erotica​@@Andrew_Schaefer

[@E45F678]

My guess is it's connection to the word "erotic".

[@tendo_pein]

It didn't. He made that up.

[@elenihelenmelb]

There are 5 words in the Greek language that define LOVE - each has its use … The English language unfortunately has LOVE IS LOVE … All Glory be to God+++ There’s an article about it by Vladimir moss .

[@TheMistAnchorite]

I believe that someone facing such challenges and resisting them truly needs a more comprehensive approach, dear father. What could be the solution to all of this? We can't assume it's easy for them, as these are powerful struggles that can last a lifetime. How can someone find healing in a short period? What prayers should they recite, which saints can they turn to for support, and so forth? Should that individual participate in Holy Communion? You're discussing fundamental concepts here, but the reality is often much more complex.

[@uib137]

Well said

[@TheMistAnchorite]

@@uib137 i also have a YT channel.

[@FirstnameLastname-py3bc]

On the other hand grace of God overcomes all human difficulties If one says they follow Christ, well, it's openly clear, through the Bible, Church teachings, Church Fathers

[@lornadoone8887]

One could invoke any of the Saints for aid, but Blessed Seraphim Rose comes to mind (Georgia has recognized him).

[@nope24601]

I experience same sex attraction and am repulsed by the opposite sex. I reject the term "gay" as I see it as a political identity which is encumbered with a host of ideological positions with which I disagree. I admit, I have not watched this video as this topic can be painful for me and I have listened to many. True, one should keep sexual relations within marriage. But logic has not overridden desire. One question the Church must answer: If not a relationship, then what? Those in a similar situation as me face a life without a partner, without children, without companionship. Father, help us. (I watched the video.)

[@garrettdennis2365]

God bless you. I agree with you. It definitely depends on the priest but in the Orthodox church, the pastoral response to this has been lacking. God help you on your walk.

[@danielsamaan4019]

It has not been lacking. You are simply not listening. Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. (Matthew 16:24) Homosexuality is the cross you must endure. You will suffer. That’s the point. Your suffering is what will lead you to everlasting life.

[@filip-pe6jr]

@@danielsamaan4019You missed the point by a far. What you said is true. However, that's not the topic of the comment. The comment asks what happens next - after accepting Jesus' word as the Truth. Do gay people become monastics, should they still marry a person of the opposite sex, should they be celibate? The Orthodox Church never made clear points on this, it only ever got close to it by condemning homosexuality, which of course is right to do as a Christians, but the Church never explained to the 'gay' people (gay as in having same sex attractions) what to do after that. Yes, someone can repent. Then what? In what way should they live (ways I mentioned before) and the most important aspect - does the person have chance of salvation if they still have those attractions. The Protestants and the Catholics (I'm not an ecumenist) made it clear that attraction is one thing and action is another, which is obviously very logical, but still, for some reason - our Church never went that far in the topic of homosexuality.

[@polha4966]

they need psychological therapy to overcome the trauma... instead they try to embrace the gayism to say it s ok that nothing happened to them... because they dont wanna face their demons... They are made gay by enviroment and sexual abuse as kids. There s no gay gene as the biggest recent scientific research in 2022 on gays has shown/ google there s no gay gene and you ll find it for yourself

[@dealarr]

It's just gross, even when a man acts like a woman without transitioning, how does that not normally irk everyone out is certainly beyond me.

[@imananonymoususer831]

You are in no way superior because of your sexuality. You aren’t sinless. Homosexual attraction is a real thing that people live with and CANNOT choose to turn on or off, and if you think they can, you are don’t know. I’m an Orthodox Christian, and i’m someone who is attracted to the same sex. Your comment was not to teach or inform anyone or to spread the love of Christianity.

[@uruk_bye1232]

It is not of Christ. That's all that we need to worry about. The old man of sin dies and we are born again, divorced from the passions (hopefully). In a practical sense, homosexuality leads to chaos (disease, unbalanced relationships, pathology) and death (disease again, end of a genetic line). The people arguing that it is 'good' don't believe in a rational 'good.' Their objections can be discarded freely.

[@nancycoyle7708]

It’s against Gods design. It matters not what you think

[@eosantigen]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s against the rules of some who are fooling you …… you have no idea what kind of god you worship………. Tragic story…… keep sleeping……

[@NinaBrigida]

@@eosantigen you seem really confused yourself tbh. I mean i’m saying this with love, as I really don’t care what you believe in or what path you have chosen for yourself, but you claim everyone's spiritual journey is personal, but then are out here judging others and demeaning other peoples intelligence repeatedly for not following what you follow. It seems a bit hypocritical and ignorant no? Perhaps let’s look at ourselves first. If this content isn't for you, which I understand, then great, why waste time commenting? Why seek it out? I’m sure one is forcing you to be Orthodox. Also, it's interesting that you’re out here quoting the Emperor Haile Selassie, and as a fellow Ethiopian, let me just suggest please stop. It’s not helping your point as you clearly don’t know who he was. He was literally an Ethiopian Orthodox Christian emperor (yes, Orthodox, the same people you were bashing when you mentioned him) who built churches and was deeply devoted, quoting that we all should love and forgive as Christ did and how “The love shown in Christ to mankind should constrain all of us who are followers and disciples to spread His word”. So quoting him while trashing Orthodoxy is not helping you and just makes you seem terribly confused. You can’t slam a faith and then cherry-pick from its leaders to back your argument. I’ll admit, I got a lot of learning to do, i’m only 20yrs old, but i know that that learning doesint come from approaches like the ones you just took.

[@briankristensen349]

We start with God, we come to Him to be healed, He will open our eyes and ears. Barmhjertige Kristus vær os nådig.

[@tssc1095]

Can you make a video on the Jerusalem cross or on oriental orthodox

[@bonnierennie9862]

You said it perfectly, I wish people would understand. These people that think it is okay do not believe in Christ and that is so sad. 🙏🏻☦️❤️

[@bladerunner6087]

We can not question the word of God. ☦️☦️☦️

[@ChildofGod315]

JESUS grant me courage to overcome every battle I face as a single mom, raising two sons with special needs is overwhelming. They need so much from me. Lord were I lack give me abundance. Please Lord give me courage as I struggle to provide clothing, groceries and rent for my sons grant me strength in Jesus name amen.💕

[@OkieAllDay]

What's wrong with being gay? Um... everything?

[@mindythorn6607]

I work with an active homosexual man who acts very feminine. I am a female and he always wants to hang out with me and talk about men and such. I don't know what words to convey that I don't want to hear these things ( as I see them properly as grave sin). It's very uncomfortable and since it's at work I'm afraid to say anything. I don't want to hurt his feelings either. No idea of the proper words to use. Any suggestions?

[@notyourdoggo7540]

Treat him like your other co-workers and just say “hey, you seem like a nice guy, but I want to keep my work life and friends life separate.”

[@FirstnameLastname-py3bc]

That's though situation that I'd like to know the answer as well

[@pulsare.m.6719]

Некоторые вопросы отвратительные. Такие же , почему аборт это грех. Да потому что это убийство.

[@rise4rumtheeashes987]

I’m curious what your thoughts are regarding the Pope blessing the unions of homosexuals. Some claim he was blessing them and not their union. But priests have always been allowed to bless anyone. It seems like he went out of his way to bless their union to me.

[@NikolasSerpanos]

Αμήν ☦️

[@Andrei_Marg]

Obey the word of God; problem solved. Case closed.

[@bjornbuckley]

One has to admit it can be hard to detest when it’s very normal around you. Two or three of my closest friends are gay. One friend of mine (straight) was adopted and raised by a gay married couple and he believed them to be excellent parents given the circumstances. Of course everything Father here said is correct. What makes it difficult is drawing the line between hatred of sinners and having compassion for them while not encouraging their behavior, and more so trying to prevent the growth of it as a culture.

[@kotp-a]

What books are written about this?

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Fr Thomas Hopko has written a book on this

[@basileiosBbb1]

Very clear! Thank you, pater!

[@GeorgePetropoulos-g8l]

BRAVO !!!!!!✝️

[@stavrouladeessegloria]

Evlogeite Patera ☦️

[@dananthony6258]

God gave us a mouth to eat food with. Just because you feel like sticking a banana in your ear doesn’t mean you’re eating. It means you’re brain or something is broken or not working right. There’s no condensation from me but don’t tell other people it’s ok to eat with their ear or they starve to death. We don’t hate people for being broken.

[@He_Shall_Reign_Unto_TheAges]

In the words of master Yoda: "Everything!"

[@elenihelenmelb]

Fr bless+ For an Orthodox Christian, the subject of the destruction of the antediluvian civilization sounds like a warning about the cause of the ruin and apostasy of the modern world. In the Gospel of Mark the Savior warned about the end of this world and instructed the disciples: Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh (Mt. 24:34-44). The book of the Wisdom -of Solomon-When the ungodly perished, she delivered the righteous man, who fled from the fire which fell down upon the five cities. Of whose wickedness even to this day the waste land that smoketh is a testimony, and plants bearing fruit that never come to ripeness: and a standing pillar of salt is a monument of an unbelieving soul (Wis. 10:6-7). Lot’s wife is called an unbelieving soul. Our Lord Jesus Christ warns His disciples: But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Remember Lot's wife. (Lk. 17:29, 32) Jude 1;7 7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. Jude 11-16 (Vespers) 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. 14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, ICXC NIKA

[@cfroi08]

I could name like 100 reasons ranging from physical health, to spritual ones. The most overlooked reason is that you end up becoming a bundle of sticks.

[@iamKONSTANTINOS]

In other words, it is love of the flesh and not love of God since God himself is love.

[@Etttt4998]

With all due respect, this is not enough explanation on the topic of homosexuality. I have lived a homosexual life for 15 years and hesring this would have never brought me back to the faith. It took me a while and listening to debates on this topic tp "be convinced" about it. Telling someone it is bad because the bible says so is like saying porn is not bad because the bible doesn't mention it. The thing that convinced me is finding the origins of where it came from for me personally. This was through some conversations with Michael Gasparro and others on the same topic. Biblical verses about didn't make sense to me because it can be contextualised and analyses in so many ways. The things that convinced me is realising that i am attracted to basically myself in a different form and that jealousy of masculine people pre puberty was sexualised during puberty and found the origin of the disorder.

[@MrMetsMeeseek]

I genuinely haven’t really cared, they were always there so whatever. But from what I’ve been hearing lately about stuff within that community, the more I’m questioning if they are all like that. I don’t want to pass judgment but IF that stuff is true then may god have mercy on their souls.

[@namedasurname3968]

EVERYTHING

[@sisselrudshaug1106]

Amen😄🕊️

[@filiusvivam4315]

Because it's a violation of nature law and a violation of divine law. Gravely sinful to act out on this disordered passion.

[@GaboH-h7s]

Because of the same reason you don't fill up your tank through the exhaust

[@MalikaIC]

Explaining might help dose who are deeply trapped that the explanation may give them them strenght to persevere..For the absolute beautiful is to surrender in ALL screaming pain on our knees to our Lord Jesus Christ ..but sometimes some people need a little " push"/ help to keep them going weil they are in the wilderness because they are so trapped that they do not know to trust/ surrender..It is a blessing just to trust without " seeing" At te same time i think it is very unloving to emphasize " if blessed" than you humbly obey...What are you trying to convey to the broken..more guilt..shame..that makes us it with the pigs?!? Before my life with Christ i had a relation with a man who made me believe that if i had love in me i just would satisfy his needs even if i would need to take the last train to him 2 hours away ..having to ancounter drugaddicts...( one of a ziljoen challenges to maje me proof that i had love in me) if i an humble enough i just would...sounds a like that, does it not.. It took me years to stop evil to manipulate me and stand my ground thanks to Jesus Christ who showed me my worthiness..but i had to reach the each of almost 50 to move in trust and despite being mocked..and spit on....So please do not abuse our love and desire for God to piss on us wgen we do not know how to trust and thus humbly cry out to our Saviour..Jesus seems in his Holy allmightiness had more compassion with our lack of humbleness than by your simplistic respons if you would be humble than you would just take it by faith.. You read about the lives of the Saints and this is your arrogant answer in your position?!? ...Yes iam getting more angry the more i replay this vlog...May God have mercyvon you and me and tge blessed Theotokos interceed for both of us to meet in oyr Lord Jesus Christ..Because i am absolutly angry with your false attitude because imo you just do not know how to answer this quistion.. i do not think Saint Father Paisios or Porphoryios would ever respond like you are doing.... the more developed the mote humble..fill us with shame for not being christian enough to be humble...Let crawl back in the pit of shame or hang myself because i fall short to Gods Glory....You are doing a great job as a HUMBLE teacher/ sheperd.. As a child my earthly father beat the hell in to us inculding our mother...all he could say God demands me to discipline you to prefende you and ne to go to hell.....you just do it in the nane of the Saviour..way must worse...I will not allow you to do that to Christ nor to me or any human soul... Your way of " explaining" creates a way to shame guilt..( crippleness) instead of a heart that " understands" an repentence....Shame and guilt make me gave my self away to be accepted..If i woyld honour that path i would still be with the man who had perverted sexual desires..who was fullnof horrible jalousy abd envy..with temper tantrums trowing a pan with chicken in tomatosauce straight from the fire...Or i wiuld still be trying to please my family and i would be still bectrapoed in islam/ new age..You are not inspiring to repentence only to guilt and shame..oh boy am angry!!

[@Ltlmscrl]

I struggle with this because of a gay family member. My niece has been happily married (legally) to a woman for several years and they are raising 2 children together that were birthed by her wife. I know so many girls her age who have multiple children by multiple fathers out of wedlock who aren’t able to provide a stable home for their kids. So when I see this happy, loving family it’s hard to perceive it as something bad.

[@MR-ChristIsKing]

Both are wrong. But lesbian "marriage" is unnatural and sin. Period.

[@gknight686]

It's usually my opinion that that's the least harmful version of it that the left tries to assert is the majority/ all of them but in reality is an extremely small minority of the population. If they were all monogamous and modest it would not be as big of a problem as it is but unfortunately that's just not the truth

[@polha4966]

they need psychological therapy to overcome the trauma... instead they try to embrace the gayism to say it s ok that nothing happened to them... because they dont wanna face their demons... They are made gay by enviroment and sexual abuse as kids. There s no gay gene as the biggest recent scientific research in 2022 on gays has shown/ google there s no gay gene and you ll find it for yourself

[@GhibaGigi-z9z]

"if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if He rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard) if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment." ( 2 Peter 2:6-9)

[@Cylyx]

Everything

[@jacobnash1885]

The best sermon I ve listened on the matter is by Metropolitan Mesogaias Nikolaos (just check his CV). It has been translated in English, but KZbin has taken it down as they ve told me. Nobody knows why. Nothing offensive there. Just speaking in terms of science and biology. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGXclJ6Bh9CAZ9E If you are interested, you might try to contact the admins to send you the translation. Also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5-Vl5djj92YfKc God bless.

[@laz92]

It was www.youtube.com/@TheUncutMountain who translated it and KZbin had them take it down ... The most scientific sermon I've listened in my life.

[@OrthodoxBulgaria]

☦️🇧🇬🫸🏻🏳️‍🌈

[@eunanmcnamee]

The watch time on this video should be the worst, for good reason, but watch the rest anyway :)

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Why? It’s one of the best viewed videos that has been posted recently.

[@eunanmcnamee]

@OrthodoxEthos you answered the question simply at the beginning of the video and it was the best possible answer.

[@memesouls8653]

“There’s the simple answer…” *Me: Gaë*

[@AlphaCentCom]

Your way of life is behind us, pray on that.

[@eosantigen]

We can’t even begin to tell you what’s wrong with being a member of the Christian Orthodox Church…….. it’s a huge tragic story….

[@deviant7647]

Mhm..., please elaborate.

[@wwecreated458]

But why did God not make it man and nan can multiple or women and women as well

[@alabamamotionpictureproduc6626]

Why does God allow cancer? Why does God allow stillbirths? Why doesn't God heal amputees? It's our cross to bear brother.

[@tcavalo]

Yhis topic was not handled well, with all due respect.

[@nicp4827]

Question. My Mum is in her mid 70s and wants to get married again. What on Earth has that got to do with having children again and being blessed by God? Nothing! My Mum is a widow and seeking love again with her new man. Sorry father I disagree with you. Also I know the Greek Orthodox Church in 2024 has accepted Gay Marriage. We are all God's children and when I go to see my maker, God, the discussion is between Him and me. It is no one else's business what is right for me or my Mum. We are all blessed children of God. By the way, don't you think the Orthodox church should start saying their prayers in Modern Greek and English? If you live in France then French, etc. This is also another reason why Gen X onwards have walked away from the Church. Modernise and the masses will come back. We are all sinners but is up to us to ask for forgiveness only from GOD. Amen.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

You are very mistaken if you think that the Orthodox Church has accepted “gay marriage” (i.e. homosexual relations)? Where did you get this crazy idea from? It has certainly not and never will. It is clearly and absolutely condemned in HolyScripture. With regard to your mother, certainly what she seeks at her age is not sexual relations per se or primarily, but a true friendship and that is nothing at all resembling a homosexual relationship. With regard to the judgment, you will stand alone before God and your conscience will accuse you of whether or not you loved him and sought to obey him. Those who lived for him and sought to do His will, and keep his commandments, will have a clean conscience and will be united already in love and communion with him. With regards to the question of language, the Orthodox Church has hundreds of parishes in America and Canada and Australia that use the English language.

[@ካ.ደ.መ.Z]

The secular Greek government is the one that accepted same-sex 'marriage' not the Church.

[@pancakekraken876]

The non-religious can never accept this point as it is being argued. Lying, stealing, adultery, even fornication can be demonstrated to do harm to people's wellbeing and society at large but there has been little case for homosexuality. If harm cannot be demonstrated then your stance is ever undermined.

[@Cobruh_Commander]

Increased likelihood of mental illness, STD's, substance abuse, abusive relationships, infidelity, all fit the bill of harm.

[@1ute]

Most of the self identifying homosexuals I know are especially afflicted with lying, stealing, and fornication. I judge their sins as I would the sins in myself. Let our fruits bear witness to the truth.

[@daltonlamari9446]

It's because it is not the proper telos of sexuality. Christ was actually incredibly strict about the topic. The issue is how its being handled, and how the modern world historically has dealt with it. Given the power of the modern state, you even so much as breathe wrong you could have a boot kicking down your door. imagine how traumatized and afraid homosexuals are.

[@AJ0223]

For one thing I would say they are lying, so there's that. But I think you're wrong I think homosexuality is demonstrably harmful, beside the obvious health risks there are correlations between homosexuality and domestic violence, child abuse, and all manner of self harm - including some things that you specifically mentioned. Things don't exist in vacuums.

[@MR-ChristIsKing]

Ask the many boys out there that have been preyed upon and molested by homosexual men, and then tell me it hasn't harmed society. Ask Sodom and Gomorrah...

[@jt9990a]

Everything.