Orthodoxy in America - with Fr. Josiah Trenham

[@16K-L2]

Pray for the Orthodox Christians in Syria

[@user-tg3tj2nq6v]

Well this priest who says belongs to that Church is not saying a word about it. I stopped listening to him because of that.

[@johnadams8322]

So true. Who knows what will happen, now... 😢

[@user-tg3tj2nq6v]

@@johnadams8322 Well I don't see anyone from the Orthodox churches saying a word, right? are they christian zionists too?

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

I just spoke to a Syrian emigre widow who came here 20 yrs ago. She sounds so despondent about the departure of Assad I don’t know what to make of it. She focuses on the fear that the Sunni majority will be unkind to the Christian minority.

[@user-tg3tj2nq6v]

@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 Unkind is not the word I would use.

[@kristenp5835]

I am a catechumen and will be baptized Eastern Orthodox on January 4. ❤

[@MTech07]

I’m from a small country in Latin America. I became nihilistic and a little bit woke. I was miserable and resentful. I started watching a ton of Dr. Peterson videos and that got me to Jonathan Pageau. I’ve started really listening to Orthodox content (Patristic Nectar included) and decided to convert. I’m in the process and going to liturgy. Thank you for all of what you do 🙏🏼

[@jamesdiluzio9906]

Glory to God. God bless you and guide you on your journey. Christ is Risen! ☦️

[@eetuerrenor5757]

Maybe you can contact bishop Timothy of Assos, he is Colombian and generally helps with people to convert.

[@rafaelnunes3628]

Orthodoxy is really powerful, right? I'm from Brazil and I really wish we had more orthodox churches down here.

[@2ichtwerker]

You are not alone. I am from Europe and could have written the exact same thing. Christ is risen!

[@ISAYWORDS1]

The famous Jordan Peterson to Pageau to Orthodox pipeline

[@hitsquad_gaming]

15:30 I had spent the last 13 years as an atheist. Now I can happily say that my wife, my kids, and myself were baptized into our local Orthodox parish 3 weeks ago this Saturday.

[@cre8509]

Aren’t we baptized into Christ himself? (Regardless of where we attend.)

[@PaulaODowd]

@@hitsquad_gaming congrats! Many years!

[@bobbiefluffy]

Where can you find Christ's body? Is it real and truly present in the Eucharist and in those who partake? Who did Christ give the command to "do this in remembrance"? Is there continuity between any institutions on Earth and the apostles who recieved Christ's commandments and the great commission? Does that institution still hold to the ideals, beliefs, and practice of the apostles? Would the apostles recognize it? Sounds like The Orthodox church.

[@RageMagikarp]

"That you're not a saint, that the Lord is going to make you one" why did that instantly bring me tears thanks Father

[@JHoyle-o8y]

It's a grace

[@Itasca1]

@@JHoyle-o8y Forgive me, It's God's Uncreated Grace...☦️

[@Itasca1]

@@RageMagikarp Thank you for your question... God brought me to tears as I read it...☦️

[@stpaulphillip]

Tears? Toughen up..

[@Itasca1]

@stpaulphillip Thank you for the opportunity to add, Glory to God for giving me tears when it is truly appropriate in His Kingdom. 🙏☦️

[@RootsofOrthodoxy]

Fr Josiah is a gem ! Great video

[@MajorMustang1117]

Hey, your work is incredible too!

[@rafaelnunes3628]

@@MajorMustang1117 It is indeed.

[@nmichaelmurphy]

Your channel does superb work!!

[@hvalenti]

As a former atheist, I've always appreciated that true believers had something in common with me: we both care about the question.

[@Panda-jv7tt]

Jordan Peterson started me on the Journey! Today I am a Cathecumen in Cape Town! Thank you for all the amazing content! ☦️ICXC

[@IanBelcher]

I spent half of my life as a Muslim, and now I'm planning to become a catechumen next year. It was you, Mr. Pageau, that inspired me to learn about Orthodoxy. Please keep up the good work and God Bless.

[@carlotapuig]

All Glory to God 🙏

[@aprillee83]

Glory to God! Welcome home. ☦️

[@MicahMarshall4Truth]

Glory to God, brother! Our Lord is rich in mercy indeed.

[@D20034]

Awesome 👏 welcome to the family of believers in Christ ☦️

[@mmtt2866]

May Christ lead you to life everlasting.

[@philipgraybill811]

I love studying STEM: Spirituality, Theology, Eternity, and Meaning.

[@shandor2522]

Put that on t-shirts!

[@michiganjack1337]

As a life long agnostic the shutting down of churches during the lockdown was the first time I had ever stood in solidarity with any religious group. Now that has lead me down the path of exploring the faith in earnest.

[@wilder11]

What a wonderful thing to be celebrating. I'm a new Orthodox Catechumen. It wasn't COVID that brought me to the faith, though I'm sure it had an influence. If I had to pin it on one thing or person, it would be Jordan Peterson. Specifically his biblical lectures. For most of my life I was an atheist, God forgive me, and I was very anti-religious. But as I grew older, and found myself unable to cope with my life choices and the world I was participating in, Jordan Peterson's talks began to open my eyes. His talks on Genesis cracked open my heart and mind to God, and began to convince me that there was much MUCH more to God and Scripture than I ever knew. But, I only sought out Jordan Peterson because of the completely failed culture we live in. I couldn't explain why, but I began to hate the crass consumerism, the pathetic and passive aggressive politics (particularly of the left), and the worship of technology and science, which seemed to create more problems than it solved. I began to hate my own conduct and thoughts, knowing, somehow, that much of my life was going in the wrong direction. I'm still learning, but I'm ever so thankful for voices like Jonathan's and Father Josiah's, who, after Jordan Peterson, continued to build the bridge, so to speak. Online Orthodoxy, for all its pitfalls, is what finally convinced me to attend Liturgy and meet my spiritual father. Two months later I began catechism. While there are many questions that are still unanswered, many sins I have yet to fully grasp and repent for, I am glad to be on the path. God bless you both, and may God grant us many years and many more catechumens. Personally I'm hoping more women get in on it. haha I think the majority of us catechumens are single and male. XD

[@connorm3946]

I, too, spent a few years in the "Jordan Peterson waiting room" on my way from atheism into Orthodoxy. As I've met more new converts, I've discovered that this phenomenon is actually quite common. Hopefully, our experience will continue to become less unique and pull more people into the church!

[@wilder11]

@connorm3946 Ha! I love that. "Jordan Peterson Waiting room". He is a psychologist after all. Glad to hear I'm not alone and that you found the true faith like I did. Glory to God and God bless you.

[@tulganandvaldyavin6930]

Yes, Dr. Peterson was also a catalyst in my return journey to my faith. My husband converted to Catholicism two years ago. I took a little longer in my journey and celebrated my first mass last Easter. Blessings 🙏

[@jazzywayz9773]

​​@@tulganandvaldyavin6930 former Roman Catholic here. I recommend reading "The Truth" by Dr. Clark Carlton. Dr. Carlton is an Orthodox convert and a professor of philosophy at Tennessee Tech university and he explains the differences of both churches in depth. And "Two Paths" by Michael Whelton does this on a comparison of doctrines basis. You are welcome to research the books

[@cre8509]

It might be more appealing to women if they weren’t separated in the congregation. If they didn’t feel like they had such a restricted role in the church. 😢

[@James.NewYork]

3 things that completely changed my life 1. I stopped thinking about the past 2. l read the book: Your Life Your Game by keezano 3. I started believing in God.

[@MisMariaRosee]

great book...

[@riccky707]

l need to start reading

[@St.MartinofToursPrayToGodForUs]

Scam.... Go promote your book somewhere else.

[@jawokenn8766]

@@James.NewYork botted ‼️

[@jbsweeney1077]

"Please keep enchanting us, Jonathan." Truly!

[@chrisrobinson34]

Some "Orthodox " enchantment that American capacity for self delusion. "Putin's a nice guy""who are we to police the world."."corrupt Zelenskyy". Trenham is uncritical that over 2000 Ukranian children have died and how many other men women and children? Why "because " .Putin is Orthodox.

[@shadow6543]

Pray for the Christians in occupied Syria 🙏☦️

[@okiebasil]

The Church in Tulsa is reflecting the same growth described. We are about to expand our chapel for a third time to accommodate all the new members and catechumens. We built a new large hall within the past couple years, which is now crowded each Sunday. Thanks be to God. I converted to Orthodoxy in 1995, at which time there was only a trickle of new catechumens each year. The growth since Covid is inspiring.

[@TomBombadil89]

I'm a Southern Baptist but recently I've been feeling drawn toward Orthodoxy. I plan on attending a service this Sunday. Gotta say, I'm a little nervous. I've been having it drilled into my head that Catholicism and Orthodoxy are damnable heresies for years now. First step is the hardest, I suppose.

[@unlklavier]

God bless your journey.

[@fujikokun]

Praying for you!

[@haleymather9226]

God bless Fr. Trenham and Jonathan. My husband and I had the honour of visiting his church in Riverside, and I was brought to tears for two days straight, overwhelmed by the profound presence of God’s work and glory shining through the students and the services. He does it right.

[@TheTransfiguredLife]

Fr. Josiah is a fountain of wisdom. Thanks to you both for this robust conversation! ☦

[@festivetosho7376]

"Lord, that's in me, too. Please get it out." So good! I needed that section (around minute 49). Listened to it repeatedly.

[@Sonmz]

Merry Christmas, Jonathan! It was with great pleasure that I watched the interview. I must say that I am very happy about the development of the Church in the USA. It gives hope for a spiritual revival in your country. As a Russian, I have no sentiments about the today's USA and the West as a geopolitical object, but I have great love for ordinary Americans, who are the salt of the earth. I would like to wish the American people to discover the real Christ and his Church. Thank you so much for the work you are doing. -Russian Orthodox subscriber from Kiev, The Failed State of UA.

[@zdravzivot3016]

Best wishes from Ortodox Serbia!!!❤❤❤

[@gavigaviman]

Ajmo braco

[@pajcka]

I also listen and follow. I am amazed at the Lord's grace at work in the USA. Greetings from Serbia.❤❤❤

[@caintapia8255]

I absolutely have you Jonathan to thank for introducing me to orthodoxy and to Fr Josiah who I happen to live very close to and am now planning on becoming a catechumen at his parish

[@ReadiusMaximus]

I hope to see you soon dear brother!

[@caintapia8255]

@@ReadiusMaximusthank you, everybody at St Andrew’s has been so welcoming

[@daniebeth]

Learning to endure yourself, wow. That is so deep.

[@jonnyschaff7068]

Pageau. I’ve been here since the beginning. You have been a wonderful voice of this holy tradition. God bless your ministry to His glory ☦️

[@francestaylor9156]

8:59 - SO LUCKY. We lived in LA city and county and so many churches were closed for a very very long time. 2020 was quite the wake up call. I wasn’t Christian at the time but even my husband and I thought it was extremely unconstitutional to shut down churches.

[@taracox3857]

This was a pure blessing to listen to. Patient endurance is something I’ve never heard of or considered before. I could listen to this man all day. Wise and succinct and incisive. More, please!

[@orthodoxboomergrandma3561]

I am a wreck! And will try to endure myself BY GODS GRACE!!! ❤

[@rexgloriae316]

That intro spoke to me. Spiritual pride is a pernicious vice that leads to despair. "Pride goeth before destruction". Ad Jesum Per Mariam.

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

[@julijanacvejic517]

It looks to me I will be haveing another great American Ortodox priest to listen to ( Non American Ortodox here) 😊 Thank you for the introduction Jonathan ❤😊

[@hannahbaker3080]

He has a good channel, Patristic Nectar, but give Patristic Nectar Kids a look, too, it has wonderful content for kids, we particularly love the stories and Children’s Homilies.

[@CursedCommentaries]

It can be easy to forget to have mercy on oneself

[@mattgregory9316]

Fr. Josiah is awesome. Insightful and, ha!, just a cool dude!

[@joannemcnamara4346]

As a fairly new convert, I needed to hear this so very much, thank you!

[@Itasca1]

I listened to this discussion before, but not with the focus needed. I was moved to listen again! I am thankful that I did! It is full of meaningful teaching. My understanding was illuminated in a number of ways, and God helped me in prayerful contemplation as I played it.🙏☦️ I would like to add one thought to Fr. Josiah's exposition of Justice Antonin Scalia's insightful warning: For those who may not know, the U.S. Supreme Court Justice who was known for his staunch and uncompromising defense of our Constitution, in its original intent, Associate Justice Scalia died unexpectedly on February 13, 2016. The official report claimed apparent death by natural causes. There were many undercurrents questioning that report... Fr. Josiah's reminder of his great loss to our Nation, brings me to say, Whether natural or nefarious, a formidable Warrior against the enemy of us all, was removed from the Battlefield... Thank you both, for this enlightening discussion.🙏☦️

[@stephaniemodavis]

51:13. Speaking from my experience with spirituality. I was a product of poor parenting and emotional abuse. I found yoga and fell in love with that "caring" environment. Eventually God found me and walked me out of that especially as it kept seeking other new age forms of "enlightenment". The never ending loop of idolatry. I see it as part of my path. And I see many condemning others process. We should teach the truth but also leave room for God with his own creation in my opinion. I see it as the path I needed to open me up to the massive love and truth of our Father...lots of new age testimonies out there....I couldn't get there from where I was at at 17. I am grateful and can see an inner process I am grateful for.

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

Man I wish Fr Josiah had been on on the Gospels seminar panel. He's the best public clergy ambassador for the Church I can think of. You do a great job on there Jonathan, not trying to say you don't and that we are insufficiently represented lol

[@adeporter3999]

100% agree. JBP and Fr Josiah need to have a conversation, God-willing

[@markomarko494]

100% agree

[@haleymather9226]

Praying that this can happen with JBP.

[@stevobear4647]

I really like Fr Stephen DeYoung also

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

@stevobear4647 totally, love Fr Stephen and Fr Peter Heers too but to me Fr Josiah is the best public clergy at being uncompromising while simultaneously showing the love of Christ to everyone.

[@Asgutenasen]

“The darkness has appeared, and that has awakened people to the reality of the unseen world…” YES! I’ve been thinking exactly about that the last 5 years. I think it’s true.

[@orthodoxboomergrandma3561]

Grace changes us!!!! It’s ALL GIFT! And we make effort…

[@PeskadorDHomes]

Потрясающе. Отец Иосия выглядит совершенно, как классический русский священник.

[@ПроститееслиобиделЯсваминесогл]

Это ортодоксальная культура христаинства

[@watercave4905]

Thank you so much for this discussion, Father and Jonathan !

[@blessedpursuitofmotherhood]

Wonderful talk, thank you!!☦️

[@angeliquesourtzis2392]

Smiling happy people...all because of their faith in God ❤😊

[@orthodoxchristianprayers]

So many strands of wisdom in here. Thank you

[@lindaphillips4646]

Learning to endure yourself. Yes.

[@Invest4Cashflow]

With love from a Serbian orthodox sinner :) Jovan !

[@DikaVBlok]

Bravo, real people. From my perspective, America experienced its greatest prosperity and became the 'promised land' when it had the strongest belief in God and adhered to moral principles. I am an Orthodox Christian from Serbia, and I would like to tell you about one of our cultural traditions connected to Christianity. In Serbia, every family celebrates a specific saint as the protector of their home on that saint's feast day. It's a family gathering where you can also invite friends to share a meal together. I would be interested to hear your opinion on this tradition in relation to biblical teachings in one of your upcoming shows. Today is my family's saint feast day, Saint Nicholas. God bless you.

[@witherfinger]

Thank you gentlemen.

[@rafaelnunes3628]

Great video, Jonathan. I love Fr. Josiah's videos.

[@jneener67]

Our church is within us in our home and Jesus , God we fear and love.

[@lydia4516]

I'm Serbian Orthodox and I enjoy listening to Fr. Josiah. I'm happy to know that Orthodox Christianity is getting bigger and bigger in North America and that many people are converting. Us Serbs suffered so much from NATO bombing and West & American politics in previous years. Please keep us in your minds and prayers and don't let that repeat.

[@davidmoore1370]

Thank you for your leadership.

[@naikhanomtom7552]

Have more clergy on. This was brilliant as always.

[@Adam_Wilde]

Regarding how many Orthodox Bishops does it take to change a light bulb joke, I have been reading the Desert Fathers. And a fictional answer based on that would be, the answer given makes sense because they decided it was too luxurious to have a light bulb, and so they became grateful that the light bulb had been taken away from them, so that they could remember it is dark in the world, and that Christ is our light, and so they returned to their prayers.

[@dumbidols]

I love this.

[@jawokenn8766]

Glory to God

[@kurtbansag935]

Amin

[@Christisking1911]

Perfect answer 😂

[@MTech07]

I’ll be honest because this is a very common mistake, a joke should be funny. It should reflect reality but with a twist of witty remark that’ll make you laugh. It shouldn’t be preachy. If not, you loose the audience. 😊

[@grantkelbrick2554]

What an absolutely fantastic discussion!

[@Day_Jyer]

Wow what a great and timely interview!

[@jelenapetrovic5876]

Greetings from Serbia.Wonderfull interview.Thank you.

[@andyscheurer6336]

Having to endure yourself was a great quote, I can relate.

[@grantg8638]

God bless Fr. Josiah, his parish and family, and all those Jonathan is able to touch in his modern ministry! ☦️

[@HelloIAmHunter]

This was an excellent watch! Love both of you ❤

[@ProtestantismLeftBehind]

Former Protestant now Orthodox. I found Christ in His Church, I found life, a living faith versus a rationalist faith.

[@CalebThornhill]

I totally agree. Much of Protestantism is rationalism. The Protestant Reformation coincided with the so-called Age of Reason and matured during the Enlightenment.

[@cre8509]

What, specifically, makes your faith living now that you didn’t have before? Thanks

[@ProtestantismLeftBehind]

@@cre8509reread my original post you responded to, there lies the answer

[@anthoulla100]

God bless you all

[@dt6822]

The growth we have seen is just amazing! We now have 125 Orthodox in USA. Soon we may have 130!

[@riapresley5446]

So awesome....many interesting and important topics. Absolutely wonderful guidance for me personally

[@tulganandvaldyavin6930]

I needed to hear this today. Thank you both so much! God bless! 🙏

[@angyt1070]

Wow this was so good. I would love more discussions with you two! Thank you ❤🙏

[@shandor2522]

Yes, at minute 45 or so, is the same thing an elderly priest explained to me-that when we confess and repent (of a temptation or bad habit) repeatedly and all the while repenting or turning away from it-at some point God simply takes it away! Then we can go on with what God reveals to us. The more foundational sin we can repent of, the more outgrowths of it we’ll be free from.

[@virginiaday2934]

I completely agree. Things will get better when they have to acknowledge God. You can’t meditate and pretend it’s science, there should always be complete understanding of the “diety” you are worshipping before you engage in spiritual practice.

[@WesternRenaissance1]

God bless you all!

[@aaronbaca]

Impressive conversation. 🙏

[@TheGerogero]

Pray for the Orthodox Church of Finland. Our new archbishop wants to expand discussion on female priesthood and other progressive topics.

[@hairytentacle3924]

The goal is to find pretext to outlaw Orthodoxy in Finland, I guess. They see it as a Russian cultural influence.

[@mamafortuin]

What?!? Oh, good grief! The other bishops need to issue a statement to shut it down!

[@nuns8126]

​@@mamafortuin The Orthodox church of Finland belongs to the Patriarchate of Constantinople. Bart plans to reunite with Pope Francis at the Council of Nicea in 2025.

[@TheGerogero]

@@mamafortuin We have a good bishop, Metropolitan Arseni, who has opposed these progressive efforts and the previous archbishop issued harassment complaints against him.

[@ddlmytwat]

Then they won’t be orthodox for long

[@darthcalanil5333]

Cheers from a fellow Roman Orthodox Syrian. It makes me so happy to see the church flourishing in America.

[@alkistx8267]

Brother is everything good there i read here in Greece that turkish backed jihadists just took over Syria.

[@St.MartinofToursPrayToGodForUs]

Lord have mercy on the suffering Christians in Syria. I hope it doesn't get worse. 😢

[@kingdomkid7225]

Father Turbo from The Royal Path touched on exactly the same point regarding the Hindus being appointed right now

[@PaulaODowd]

Time stamp?

[@russellhoward3866]

It's late for me tonight, it's a long video, & I'll probably forget about it tomorrow... what did they mean by that?

[@soundsnags2001]

Yes! I'd love to hear him in conversation with Jonathan as well. I think they could go down some interesting paths.

[@PaulaODowd]

Found it, it’s by the end : 1:14:40

[@russellhoward3866]

@PaulaODowd Thank you!

[@gailsingle2624]

I totally enjoyed this chat. Looking for a spiritual home. Will be seeking out my local orthodoxy community.

[@ReadiusMaximus]

Father Josiah's parish is over flowing with young men I am there and one of them haha

[@AmericanOrthodoxFilm]

Looking forward to the American Orthodox film.

[@ПроститееслиобиделЯсваминесогл]

Glory to The God The Savior our Lord Jesus Christ!

[@JamesWhite-s8y]

Very insightful, good to know people are coming from darkness to the light of the Truth.

[@JanBear]

As a practical matter, beauty ennobles-and a homeless man can come into a church and have his life lifted.

[@vickykentrota9031]

Mery Christmas to you both wonderful people🙏✨️✨️ Love from Greece 🇬🇷 🩵

[@sammarchant2703]

Please set up a conversation with Jordan Peterson and Father Josiah Trenham. I feel two of my worlds are colliding right now. It would be really fun to see the father go on the Bible lectures as well.

[@PaulaODowd]

They have met in the past just no recorded curated convo as far as I can see. Going to a Peterson show in Riverside in 2019(2018 🤔?) is when I took the opportunity to check out St Andrew, Fr Josiah’s church. I then became a catechumen and became baptized in 2022. My only advice to people is to avoid rigorism and focus on the useful parts of the rules and not get too bogged down in performative piety. Use th good parts of it; Fr Josiah is right, endure yourself. Some people are already prone to religious OCD so just be careful not to be too harsh on yourself, the good thing is that Orthodoxy does provide needed rigor compared to Protestantism. Just don’t burn out or forget Gods love and grace, that’s just my advice for what it’s worth 🤷‍♀️

[@Alexander_Isen]

God has blessed two great minds. Thank you.

[@emilianohermosilla3996]

I truly am extremely curious at how future Western Orthodoxy will be influenced by it's latter culture. Seeing testimonies of those that come from the Balkans, Russia and Greece, we see how these peoples have been influenced/affected externally by the politics or conquests by external powers. There's lots of works and advances done by great Western intellectuals, I suspect these advances won't get erased from common memory but adopted by these cultures, giving to them a new foundational pilar through which growth shall stem from.

[@TravelingPilgrim-ct6mh]

Pre covid - we were dependent on the clergy to lead us to faith Post covid - we decide to take it onto ourselves to learn & find the faith ...There are 3 reasons for this I think: 1. Scandals of the clergy made us verify 1st before trusting them 2. Atheists forcing us to move from just feelings to using science & logic to find our faith 3. The years of fear & uncertainty that came from covid

[@olubunmiolumuyiwa]

I wonder if Jonathan Pageau was asking on the behalf of Jordan Peterson with that qurstion around 50:00. I think he was trying to ask what the common pattern is for getting people like Jordan into the Church

[@Pokemon23491]

I converted to Orthodoxy in June of 2020 and am a member at a Greek Orthodox parish in Omaha,Nebraska. My cathechesis as a chatecuhman happened during covid. Before this, I was more of an inquirer from 2018-jan 2020. Fr. Josiah has been a blessing to me as I did a lot of solo reading my priest assigned me to do. We had some one on one in person before covid bans. I wish we could have catechism classes like what is happening at his parish. If I were any less committed as a Christian at the time of my conversion, I'm not sure I'd still be Orthodox. The support from clergy and parishoners is highly lacking. This doesn't seem to be an isolated issue in the Orthodox church due to the ethnic divisons and structure of authority among parishes. I was hesitant to commit to an Antiochian parish due to large amount of converts as I wanted to be around Orthodox Christians from birth to learn the way of life. Thank you for everything you two are doing to help bring awareness to Orthodox Christianity in America.

[@grimstuff1]

Most cradle Orthodox are not as devout as converts. They're the ones only coming during Holy Week and the ethnic festivals. Consider yourself blessed that you're with other converts who have the curiosity, energy, and drive to expand their faith inward. Not trying to put people in boxes here, but the ethnic dominated parish is not ideal.

[@johnsambo9379]

Before the war, there were 2.5 million indigenous Christians living peacefully in Syria or 10% of the population. Since the US & its allies began funding and arming terrorists in Syria in 2011, the indigenous Christian population has fallen to less than 500,000.

[@heluphicclovanass8954]

I find it psychologically quite interesting that the youth in traditionally orthodox countries (Serbia, Greece, Russia etc.) isn't particularly fascinated by Orthodoxy and their religious participation is declining while the Eastern Orthodox Church in America is growing. There are also some funny trends like Buddhism declining in Asia while Christianity (Catholic and Protestant mostly) is growing and Iranians claiming they're Zoroastrian to protest the Shia regime.

[@maksimborodajenko9930]

They will be back. Orthodoxy does not offer too much for teenagers or young adults.

[@Daniela_Velinov]

Dont forget that we, Balkans and Russia were comunist country. The Church was forniden. The Prists were making fun of them. So 40 or 50 year of that does damage. But we still have young people in Church, we still have Monks, so we are not lost entiraly. Lots of love from Macedonian Ortodox !

[@terrymattingly6843]

The late Father Gordon Walker of Tennessee used to say: “Keep walking toward the altar. … Keep going to confession.”

[@aprillee83]

In my opinion, as a 2021 convert, 2016-2020 primed the pump of the people who ended up showing up in Orthodoxy once covid hit.

[@nathanfilbert2649]

You two are favored folk - thank you for letting us into your conversation & dialogue 🙏🏼

[@Simon-ts9fu]

30:15 Similarly to how the church makes us feel better, I have noticed how videos such as this one make me feel better, even though by any objective measure they should not be any more interesting than other KZbin discussions about more “interesting” things such as politics, science and technology. In fact, any analysis I could make of this video would tell me it is boring and does not provide any useful information. Yet I feel that it did me some good, whereas those other videos might grip my attention but then mostly just abandon me. Evidently, putting the cross first works in all domains (even though it’s only a low tech piece of dull ordinary wood…).

[@Bella11264]

❤ showing love from Ethiopia orthodox!

[@BarryWillBuck]

I was also an atheist before becoming Christian

[@michaelbarber5633]

Even as a Protestant it always blew my mind when some…not all…but some would say, the church should not be elaborate or have “beauty”; Christ spoke out against showy rich people. My mind always went to how God wanted His temple adorned with gold and beauty. Apparently somewhere in the reformation He changed His mind…

[@Frauter]

Thanks so much for your generosity jonathan. Could you recommend a book about memory?

[@andrewward5891]

I read a good book on memory but I forgot the name of it

[@Frauter]

@@andrewward5891 Remember to drop the title here when it comes back to you ;)

[@amertlich]

1:14:57 interestingly it’s not the polytheistic Hinduism that’s rising. There are bridges to build here. Advaita Vedanta (Ramaswamy) emphasizes philosophical monotheism and unity with the divine. Vaishnavism (Usha Vance) focuses on devotion to Vishnu/Krishna as the Supreme Being. Gaudiya Vaishnavism (Gabbard) blends monotheistic devotion with ritualistic and meditative practices centered on Krishna.

[@shandor2522]

Thanks for these vital tidbits-where can we read more in depth? On the Buddhist side, Fr Seraphim Rose’s book Christ the Eternal Tao explains that in Buddhist & Taoist temples is an altar before the main temple. It’s dedicated to Shang Ti, the one true God. This original monotheism predated polytheism & tradition, having begun in the Hsin, the first dynasty.

[@jpodolski6078]

I’m Catholic but love the Orthodox Church . The Orthodox stick more to tradition and Catholics looks like are waved bit too much to the do call “progress “. The progress imply something better , positive but I think what really is I would call it “ change “ and not really for anything better . I’m attending Latin Traditional Mass in small Ontario community . The positive thing I see is …lot of young people attending! Thank you . God Bless !

[@ArmwrestlingJoe]

I did mushrooms a few times and the last time I did them I did way too much and was completely overwhelmed to the point where I couldn’t see anything and then I felt intense heat and saw bright yellow light. I saw Christ and then proceeded to puke all the mushrooms up which made me feel a lot better and may have saved me from a psychotic break. I’m not claiming it was the real Christ but it was just a true experience I had.

[@shandor2522]

Pageau is one of the few proposing more work in class, to obviate “CheatGPT”. I suggested to a college prof at a dinner, who decried students’ abuse of Ai, that he have all tests in-person, and no take-home projects for credit. I remember taking the Ordinary Level exams in England in late 1970’s and they were 2-3 hour epics! You either had the knowledge by then, or washed out.

[@chrisrobinson34]

No change in the Orthodox traditions or belief's? "The Church also understands that not everything is perfectly clear; therefore, it has always accepted a fair amount of contention about certain issues, arguments about certain points, as something that will always be present within the Church. It is this contention which, through time, clarifies the truth. The Church sees this as the action of the Holy Spirit on history to manifest truth to man."