Interview with Fr Josiah Trenham on The Orthodox Ethos and Catechism, with Fr. Peter Heers

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~ Archpriest Josiah Trenham was ordained to the Holy Priesthood in 1993, and was awarded the Ph.D. in Theology from the University of Durham, England, in 2004. He has served as pastor of St. Andrew Orthodox Church in Riverside, CA. since 1998. Father Josiah was married in 1988, and has ten children. Father is the founder and director of Patristic Nectar Publications, where his homilies and additional theological reflections are published weekly and listened to by thousands all over the globe on The Arena podcast. Father Josiah's books and articles have been published by St. Herman Press, New Rome Press, Zoe Press, St. Vladimir!s Orthodox Theological Journal, Logos: A Journal of Eastern Christian Studies, The Journal of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, CIVA: The Journal of Christians in the Visual Arts, Divine Ascent, The Word Magazine, OrthodoxyToday.org, American Orthodox Institute, Sourozh, Pemptousia.com (Vatopaidi Monastery), Eastern Churches Review, and more. Father Josiah has conducted numerous diocesan, parish, and clergy retreats and seminars for every Orthodox Christian jurisdiction in America and in Canada, and has spoken at international gatherings. He has also spoken at numerous colleges and universities.
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[@andys3035]

I'm a catechumen having been a Protestant for 20 years. I thank God for leading me to Holy Orthodoxy ☦️

[@orthodox1717]

Glory to God!!!! ☦️

[@LadyMaria]

☦ 🌹 💗

[@Cp6uja]

Welcome home! ☦️

[@HudsonFamily7]

Protestant all my life 48 yrs old. I am SO ALIVE IN ORTHODOX I COULD SCREAM or chant while doing jumping jacks.

[@andys3035]

@@HudsonFamily7 a little blend of Pentecostalism? 😁 Jk Glory to God!

[@mkultravictimbf]

The absolute gigachad energy eminating from that room could solve the european energy crisis

[@MrChi31]

Lol 😂 that was awesome 👏🏼

[@attkdriver]

That is the funniest comment I’ve seen all day😂. But oh so true!

[@Lord_Have_MercyX3]

All Glory to God. ☦️

[@missinterpretation4984]

That just made my day 😂 👏

[@nathanbell6962]

Nice comment but remember the last will be first

[@MrKChris1]

I am 44 years old Greek- Cypriot. I am Orthodox all my life and the things I learned about my faith from this 30 minutes video are more, than my whole life. Big thanks to both fathers! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@saltygreenapple1394]

which village in cyprus im a refugee from kyrenia

[@katherine3486]

It's great you are becoming the Faith you were handed in your young life. Now it's real And you have found the Pearl of great price

[@غاليةعيدوعجم]

Humiliate like this to resurrection

[@varvarapapadopoulou6003]

I am a Greek Orthodox and I so feel the same like you. These two priests are the true Orthodox Church so hard to find in Greece nowadays….😢

[@Smeltervillain420]

Father Peter forgive me plz, but what is all this controversy of people online persecuting you saying you have no church, and that you don’t believe there’s the One church…!! Is this just persecution or is even my ONLY truth now being bamboozled as well..??? Plz forgive my trying to find out but plz get back to me if u are able… Kyrie Eleison

[@ConstantineFtw]

As a Greek, I express my utter admiration and love for those who convert to the Orthodox faith, in my eyes, you are all warriors that will be crowned Kings in His name. Had I been born elsewhere probably wouldn't have had the same persistence or passion to find Him.

[@nicodemuseam]

Brother, from an American convert who became Orthodox almost five years ago, I thank you and ask your prayers for me and my wife and four daughters; This year, God has been particularly good to me, helping me to break the shackles of sinful habits, but i feel my inadequacy as a Spiritual infant. Though I am a grown man, I lack Christian maturity and I have spent much of my life chasing the passions. I have truly drank the emptiness of sin, particularly the lusts of the flesh. I hope, by and for the glory of God, to be a light for my daughters(recently baptized) and my Protestant wife(She allowed our daughters to be baptized because she realized my conversion wasn't "a phase"). Glory to God! May He have mercy on us!

[@KyleNewsom-v8x]

Blessings brother I'm not fully Orthodox yet but my heart is

[@medeasamkharadze8989]

@@nicodemuseam glory to god!!! May the lord grant you strength to move closer to him. Through prayer, anything is possible!

[@diarmaidobaoill4141]

I absolutely love that these 2 are together here. My favorite ministries in one place. Glory to God!

[@annawray2220]

I’ve watched most of Fr Josiah and Fr Heers sermons and lectures, they have helped me greatly in my path to Orthodoxy, I’ve since become a catechumen here in Cambridge, England, I’m on the path to leaving Anglicanism and becoming part of the Orthodox Church.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Anna! God bless you! Good strength! Come home. We await you! ~ Fr. Peter [I grew up as an Anglican. My father was an Anglican priest for 28 years before he and most of his parish became Orthodox in 1992.]

[@annawray2220]

Amazing! The first person I spoke to when entering the Orthodox Church is also an ex Anglican, the priest is ex Anglican,, I am in good company! I can’t wait to become part of the one true Orthodox Church! Thank you Fr Peter for all that you do.

[@si-zelotes]

Likewise from Oxford, UK! 😊🙏☦

[@annawray2220]

@@si-zelotes Wonderful!

[@t.l.ciottoli4319]

My priest is an ex-Anglican bishop. Welcome Home Anna!

[@paulr5246]

Wow, two of my favorite people in one conversation, glory to God!

[@mamafortuin]

I’m thankful for true shepherds such as Fr. Josiah and Fr. Peter who convey the unadulterated fullness of the Orthodox faith. 🙏❤️☦️

[@paulk8072]

Amen. These men are Holy. Fr. Trenham is in a particularly difficult area, where lawlessness abounds he has so much strength it is humbling, what a great man. God bless father Josiah.

[@electricrevenue8131]

Happy to see Fr Josiah and Fr Heers together. Love both of their channels

[@Georgios1821]

Κύριε Ιησού Χριστέ ο Θεός ελέησον ημάς☦

[@orthodoxruss556]

Two modern day greats together! I'll be getting back from liturgy just in time for the premiere too. Amen

[@orthodox1717]

What a wonderful blessing from God to have these two Pious Orthodox clergy together! I have learned so much from both of them, Glory to God! ☦️

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Glory be to God! Consider sharing!

[@adambenedict6155]

I am so thankful to see these two fine teachers speaking with each other. Fr. Josiah stated, “So much of Orthodoxy is skewed because we want to talk before we live.” 14:29 - 14:35. One thing I was instructed to do during inquiry and catechesis was to pick up the prayer book and begin using it daily. To this day I remain grateful for that instruction.

[@antonioj.castaneda7377]

This will be incredibly spiritually rewarding to watch. I watch both channels. Fathers, bless! IC XC NIKA ☦️

[@Thicknchunky]

I love listening to Fr. Trenham. His passion for our faith is amazing. I also really appreciate Fr. Heers in this interview. He is sitting there listening taking it all in like I am doing while watching this. He understands that this interview is not about him but about his guest. Thank you to both.

[@FirstnameLastname-py3bc]

You had worse of view of Fr Peter (Heers)?

[@nathanwilliams9704]

If only this conversation went for 4 hours... Thank you Fr Peter for this discussion!

[@d0g_0f_Christ0s]

Thank you for your time & your wisdom Fr. Josiah & Fr. Peter. I have no words to describe the privilege of even being shown Christ's true church let alone being allowed in to His blessed embrace. Thank You so very much, please Lord bless these two Frs, bless & keep them for Your glory. Amen.

[@itsmelorijayne6574]

Glory to God in ALL things. Patiently waiting!

[@Osafune2]

Fr. Josiah reminds me to pray to St Paul and ask his prayers for the growth of The Church in Britain so it can better accommodate the increasing numbers here

[@joer9156]

Amen

[@ApostlesOfOurTime21]

It is a true blessing for everyone of us to be a part of this wonderful talk. May Holy Spirit enlighten us to understand the topics presented

[@marieegypt7091]

Glory to God! Thank you Fathers for being the light that shines in the darkness.

[@NightDangerRPG]

My wife and I were received on Pentecost last year, and I can attest to what a serious difference it made to take the full 3 years as catechumen. By the end of our first year I still had so many hesitations, misconceptions and holdovers from my protestant background and the formation I received in the subsequent 2 years was invaluable

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Thank you so much for this. Very helpful and encouraging. The Saints don’t make mistakes much. The apostles had three years with our Lord. The ancient church three years for most. It’s not hard to see we need to go back to this today in this pagan world and very heretical west

[@constantinekarampelas9954]

Well said. It is really something surprising to see how Orthodoxy is growing in America. I simply hope that the programs maintain an authentic feel and routine that remains deeply connected to the original churches. I pray that Orthodoxy doesn't become "commercialized" or like another tacky religious movement that is so rampant in our society today.

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

I haven't converted yet, but my heart is Orthodox. I'm learning what I can through PNP and Orthodox Ethos, doing recommended reading and such, getting my prayer life together and fasting, and growing the cajones to actually go to a local Orthodox church 😂. I'm socially awkward but know God will guide me.☦️🔥❤️

[@joebagadonuts1547]

I was in the same boat brother, God bless!💗

[@living_orthodox]

This interview was a blessing and an inspiration, as well as a source of guidance for this young priest. Thank you Fathers!

[@OrthodoxEthos]

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[@flawlessvic]

Lord have mercy. Such a blessing to see these two together.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

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[@gingerdefilippo]

So thankful to God for these two Men of God. May God bless their efforts in all they do for Orthodox church.

[@HudsonFamily7]

I've been in the pond that is Protestantism 48 years all my life. I am swimming like a fish in the ocean that is Orthodox Christianity now. Swimming for the first time I might add.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Glory be to God! Swim! Swim for your life! The time is short. Focus and make progress on the path of return, of repentance, of increasing the love and the humility.

[@HudsonFamily7]

@@OrthodoxEthos i got baptised and chrismated about 3 weeks ago.

[@st.maximusvstheuglies1309]

God willing, I know how I will be spending my Friday evening. I look forward to this!

[@GeorgeLiavas]

Happy Oxi day to all the Grecs

[@hh8222]

No!

[@GeorgeLiavas]

@@hh8222 huh?

[@hh8222]

That's what oxi means...it was a joke.

[@anitar150]

@@GeorgeLiavas 🤣😅

[@GeorgeLiavas]

@@hh8222 haahhahaha I'm slow today. I'm in oxi- mode

[@paulk8072]

I can relate to the part where there is difficulty for the catechumen to reconcile the self knowledge of being utterly wretched and sinful with God's love for us. God bless the Orthodox Ethos and Patristic Nectar channels,I get most of my knowledge regarding Orthodox theology from those two channels.

[@vanessac.7040]

Glory to God! Wonderful interview. Beautiful to see two priest who I admire together and who you can see have zealous love for Christ. I believe they are helping in revealing the need in our times for true zeal and seriousness it takes to be an Orthodox Christian. To walk towards the path of salvation is a serious life process. And like Fr. Peter said we are so impatient. Lord have mercy and help us! I pray God continue to strengthen and help Fr. Peter, Fr. Josiah and all priest for the salvation of our souls. O Most Holy Theotokos save us. ☦️💕

[@denholmreynholm9030]

Thank you! May God bless you both in everything to continue in your pastoral duties, and everything you do! I loved, as do many these interviews, as with recently with Metr. Neofytos.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

Glory be to God. We are grateful to be able to be the bridge to bring you to the confessors and lovers of Christ and successors to the apostles.

[@TheHackingWeasel]

Two Powerhouse clergyman and our Orthodox Faith here in America thank you for this interview☦️

[@petes6521]

May the Lord continue to bless Father Peter and Father Josiah and their families and ministries. Through the prayers and intercessions of the Most Holy Theotokos.

[@mrsapostate]

Thank you, Lord. While listening to this and meditating on my own sin, the Lord showed me that when my children overstimulate me, I can react poorly by speaking cruelly to them. I am so sinful. Forgive me, Lord.

[@taranmurray7046]

So great. Some very good catechism going on in this interview. Also if anyone isn't yet, go get free access to the full Synaxarion in audio format at Patristic Nectar. I have been following along the daily Saints since late July and it is truly transformative. Glory to God.

[@tomiascarnahan4889]

His glory be forever! May Christ our God bless you both. I’m forever thankful for you Fr Peter and Fr Josiah,you’ve helped me in my faith more than anyone else, Glory to God. Wonderful video!

[@bahretibebmuche4466]

I am from Ethiopia, Orthodox church , it is really a nice time thank you very much !!

[@nicolaj622]

such an edifying talk, and how Father Josiah opened my own wounds, as a fresh convert I wanted to talk about it all the time, but I learned that Orthodoxy is nor talking, it is doing, to get being, thank you both for amazing 30 minutes, I love you both! May God bless you and all those who were attending there again, and again, and again! Christos anesti ek nekrom!

[@TheDroc1990]

I will be received into Christ's Church this nativity. I'm so thankful for Patristic Nectar and Orthodox Ethos.

[@bendixon8704]

Thank God for these two phenomenal defenders of our faith. May God protect them in these times.

[@1natehill]

I was baptized in 2017, after 3 years of catechism and this video made since of why it took so long and I thank God every day for the journey and the future!

[@rigavitch]

Praise Jesus. Thank you Fathers! You can count me and my son! As soon as I can find a Church we will be catechumens in UK!! It's been a struggle but my faith grows every day thanks to teachers like you! ☦🙏🏼

[@airone50]

I am a catechumen at 65 and I am coming up on my liturgical year. Very eager to complete the catechesis or so I thought. Recently I have been called to care for my parents as they are ailing with mobility and cognitive failings. I found how spiritually undone I was. Such attachments and passions within me was so wrenching to my soul. There was such anger such exhaustion I am so incomplete.. Although I am praying morning and evening and I have read the dogmas of the Church but I have not become as a child. I have learned through this season that I now see that this is a time of purification and development of the Phronema in my personal life. Do I want to take of the spoon and experience the mysteries or receive have absolution and confession. Absolutely! I want transformation and change. If it takes 2 years or 3 years or the rest of my life as a catechumen I am committed to becoming. I was so encouraged to see these men who have spoken Apostolic truth into my life. Former protestant/pagan for 60 years....

[@OrthodoxEthos]

God is with you in your desire to be united to Him! Patient perseverance and you will receive the crown.

[@airone50]

@@OrthodoxEthos ☦

[@glorytofathersonandholyspirit]

Two of my favorite priests in one video, can’t wait to listen after I get off work!

[@missinterpretation4984]

I became a catechumen during Covid as well. Now baptized this year. ❤

[@jmlc61]

What a blessing it is to see the two of you having such an interesting conversation. God bless you.

[@robbratcher4675]

Our family was chrismated on Oct. 1st after over 2 years of being catchumens. My entire soul thirsts for God now. After many years as Protestants, we are so thankful to be home.

[@Orthodoxi]

God bless you Father Josiah!

[@brassteeth3355]

I appreciate all of the Orthodox resources on forums like this and many others. There's no shortage of places on the Internet to find Orthodox information and inspiration. The shortage is apparently in Churches. So I'll continue taking my family to the local country church that we attend. I've got no alternatives.

[@northstar2358]

What a blessing to listen to the words of wisdom from these honorable servants of our Lord Jesus Christ! Thank you fathers.

[@RevDeaconMichael]

To very blessed Fathers of the Church today! By your prayers, Fr's! Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on us!

[@maysoonnimri3259]

God bless you fathers

[@eleftheria9179]

glory to God!Your blessings fathers!I'm very happy for all the converts in America! Eleftheria,from Athens,Greece

[@TheLoyalCatholic]

I’m a Catholic who is heavily debating on becoming orthodox, I’ve been studying the early church fathers for a while, and watch your videos (on KZbin and tiktok) to help teach me more on the faith of the apostles, thank you for your beautiful and amazing content!

[@OrthodoxEthos]

God bless you! Stay tuned, as we will be coming out with a number of books that you’ll be interested in, analyzing Catholicism and the differences.

[@TheLoyalCatholic]

@@OrthodoxEthos definitely will!

[@junesilvermanb2979]

@@TheLoyalCatholic You should watch the documentary series Byzantium: The Lost Empire, created by John Romer. It is available on KZbin... ❤️

[@TheLoyalCatholic]

@@junesilvermanb2979 I’ll look into it thank you :)

[@andreas2218]

What a joy! Glory to God for all things!

[@VincentTamer]

excellent talk! so glad to see these two Fathers together!

[@Theophotini]

Please pray for me. I am having a big struggle with my faith. The devil is trying to draw me away from Orthodoxy. Lord have mercy! Please

[@austinfurgason3634]

Coming into the Orthodox recently, reading rock and sand and receiving so much instruction and overcoming obstacles through the teachings of Fr. Josiah Trenham. I’ve come to a place where I just find so much joy when I hear him speak.

[@purebloodanglochristian8207]

Thank you, Fathers.

[@AustimosPrime]

This is a collab I’ve wanted for awhile

[@alexie1910]

Δόξα Σοι ο Θεός ημών!!!

[@vladimirjokicic7609]

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. ☦

[@SaltShack]

I was raised in the mormon Church went to Roman Catholic School and was introduced to Orthodoxy when my wife to be, not yet engaged, took me to Holy Friday Service after not being in any Church for nearly a decade. She thought if he can handle this he might be worthwhile. To this day I can’t express what happened to me. I only know my life was changed and that I would never be without Christs Church. I left my law enforcement profession for her and the Church. I have been blessed by your comments because I’m a perfect example of the perpetual Catechumen. Unlike my wife I don’t wake up on Sunday excited about going to Church. But once I get there early for vespers because of my wife’s duties in the choir, little mis perfect, just kidding my love and I have a chance to reflect, usually cry and beg forgiveness I change momentarily to a person that has a chance to keep the whole day without sin and leave thankful and recommitted. I know if I plug away, chip away at my hard heart, that one day some Sunday maybe not every Sunday but some Sunday I will experience the Joy my wife experiences every Sunday, God willing. The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church has been the greatest gift I’ve ever received from God through a Greek emigrant family and am so blessed. To those thinking about Orthodoxy do one thing before anything else, before reading a book or watching more KZbin videos, go to an Orthodox Church. Try to spend several Sundays before interviewing the Priest or parishioners to see if they are to your liking because regardless of how important they are to the Body of Christ the most important thing that happens inside an Orthodox Church is between you and the Holy Spirit. God forgive me a sinner.

[@elainapoochie2734]

Wonderful interview! I need to listen to it over and over....

[@arthurncube4348]

My two favourite priests

[@seandowney2338]

I wish I had a more developed community so that there would be daily services to attend. It would also carry with it the implication of there being a priest we would not have to share with other missions as well as an actual catechismal service for our church. I feel like our priest is stretched too thin between his family and the four missions he serves to be able to do everything we need for good and consistent spiritual growth, but I will also heartily say that this is still truly better than nothing, and I'm thankful we have what we do.

[@chad14533]

You two are making a HUGE difference!!!

[@crbgo9854]

I learned in august of orthodoxy thru Andrew tate been going to local parish ever since been a catehuman loving everything. I've had so many issues with protestantism for so long and to discover this is a blessing on my soul

[@lindsaypeek63]

That is so interesting I never heard Andrew tate talk about orthodoxy and yet I feel he had a major part in leading me here. He made me realize I want to surrender to God and I can trust him. So beautiful

[@strugglingathome]

Glory to Christ!

[@gingerkelly7257]

Glory to God!

[@raulromero1251]

Thank you Fathers for both of your channels and all of your ministries. Thank you for this content and all the work you both do. This is truly a goldmine.

[@roughhands305]

So nice. Thank you.

[@anon.carpenter4201]

I am inquiring to the orthodox church nearest to me in Montana. This video came at a great time, as I have questions for the priest and deacon about catechism. God be with you Father Trenham and Father Heers.

[@damachinen]

Isn't Fr. Deacon Ananias in Montana?

[@gerardgrywacheski1418]

May God bless Father Peter Heers and Father Josiah Trenham and grant them many years!!

[@effiekyriacou4351]

Amen, I thoroughly enjoyed and was moved by this discussion. Thank you and God bless

[@spacemonke5595]

Thank you Fathers☦️

[@MrRickkramer]

Can’t wait....👍🏻

[@JoshuaMichael53]

Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He Loves all of us very deeply. Thank You Jesus for coming to bare our sins and be our Saviour on that Triune Cross of Calvary.

[@Orthomimi0604]

Fr. Josiah and Fr. Peter were instrumental in my recent baptism and chrismation into the Church

[@E.OrthodoxMHNIN]

I love that Fr. Josiah made it very clear that he loves and supports Fr. Peter clearly for the benefit of those who make unjust criticisms of Fr. Peter for literally no good reason.

[@djz9584]

Awesome! Glory to God ☦️☦️☦️💪

[@si-zelotes]

What an extraordinary blessing to see you both together. As a new convert PNP and OE have been so helpful and edifying. Thank you so much for your labour's! 🙏☦

[@saint5203]

Thank you Fathers. I am a catechumen. Recently I became a Subdeacon! What a beautiful experience.

[@OrthodoxEthos]

If you are a catechumen you cannot become a SubDeacon. Did you mean you were catechumen and now you were baptized?

[@karens.8194]

This interview is a blessing. Thank you Fr. Peter for the amazing work you do. I have been an inquirer in The Orthodox Christian Church for about a year. Born into Catholicism and became mormon(LDS) about 30 years ago. I got to say that when the pandemic started and our church closed doors was an eye opener and I was done. After two years of searching I decided to assist to The SS Peter and Paul Church. I got to say that the joy I feel when we participate of The Divine Liturgy on Sundays is undescriptable. I love to witness all what takes place during this time and the fact that we are standing during the service makes it even more special to us. Thank you Fr Josiah for your inspiration and wise advices during this important time of my life.

[@pelagonianlion8276]

Thank you Father Josiah and Father Peter. This video was very edifying. Glory to God!

[@jcmustian]

Father Josiah's words about living before you speak to your spouse and loved ones was a blessing to me. Thank you fathers. Pray for me.

[@mrlozano]

I really appreciate this talk. Thank you both for doing this!

[@anthonyally4390]

Very edifying and encouraging interview. Thanks for sharing God's Love in Christ Jesus and leading us to be transformed by The God's Power and Grace of The Holy Spirit ☦🕊🔥Love Jesus' lesson to us, vulnerably revealing God to us in Person: "Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart; and you will find rest for your souls..."

[@Bobthe0strich]

Loved this vid, especially the last 6-7 minutes. Thank you fathers

[@JMRolf1]

Father Josiah's book was instrumental in my conversion to Orthodoxy from the Lutheran tradition. His catechism lectures are also amazing. Love to see this interview!

[@Stechino]

Two great priests who are doing so much to bring educate others on Orthodoxy.

[@slim1one]

I have been Orthodox all my life as my ancestors before me. It makes me so happy to know that others are embracing the Orthodox faith.

[@sshizas6986]

Wonderful discussion. Thank you Fathers.

[@byzantineladybug9471]

☦🙏 THANK YOU both and God Bless you both! I am very grateful to learn from both of you and you have helped me tremendously. Fr Josiah, I am subscribed to your channel and have always wanted to thank you but have had no way to do so (as I am not on any other social media platforms) so I am thanking you here and maybe you will see this. Father Peter, I have thanked you and your wonderful team on the Tuesday live streams (along with many others sharing the same gratitude!) and on other videos and hopefully those messages from us are relayed to you. 🙏☦

[@feeble_stirrings]

A great conversation, thanks for sharing it!

[@craigculwell9177]

Grace and Peace to you! 🔥⛲️📖❇️🌬🌐🕊☦️