Tik Tok Protestant Vs Orthodoxy

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Kyle

Kyle

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@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
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@xHollow.
@xHollow. Жыл бұрын
You should talk to him like you did Redeemed zoomer. Also you ever think of making a tik tok? It may not be your taste in content style but i feel as though short reposts of your videos on there would be more then enough to rack in a lot of viewers
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
@@xHollow. Redeemed Zoomer is very open minded and willing to learn.. This guy seems very stubborn tbh.. people are saying that he blocks anyone that disagrees with him..
@Robin-sf3gk
@Robin-sf3gk Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyle Hello Mr Kyle, thank you very much for the video. For the most part, i found it really stringently argued, while the gentleman from tiktok was hardly convincing. But I don't understand the text at Minute 7:50 or the biblical passages in the last paragraph in the context of the prayers for the dead. In my opinion, the three listed are hardly applicable to the deceased, even with a loose interpretation. I always thought that the prayer for the deceased was essentially based on verses from the apocrypha. (oh just lookeed few seconds further and seen you referenced the 2. Macabees :D but still the thre verses at Minute 7:50 don't mention that topic, not even indirectly in my opinion.)
@robithesir
@robithesir Жыл бұрын
Can we get the link to Fr Josiah Trenham's talk on faith alone
@autumnk9342
@autumnk9342 Жыл бұрын
​@@OrthodoxKyle Do you think we should read the Bible
@clumsyrival1589
@clumsyrival1589 Жыл бұрын
I was an atheist recently converted to Christianity. Your videos led me to orthodoxy. I attended my first liturgy last Sunday and was almost brought to tears multiple times during it. I’ve never felt anything like that at any other church I’ve attended. You are making a difference
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God! this is amazing! thanks for sharing! God bless! reach out if you have questions
@ThomasG_Nikolaj
@ThomasG_Nikolaj Жыл бұрын
Glory to God ☦
@RotneybotOfficial
@RotneybotOfficial Жыл бұрын
Axios!
@brumalogresteer4124
@brumalogresteer4124 Жыл бұрын
Based!
@TXTigrovi
@TXTigrovi Жыл бұрын
☦️
@KingTonyBatts
@KingTonyBatts Жыл бұрын
Yoo Kyle! What’s up man, just wanted to thank you brother. I been attending a Orthodox Church these past months, and just yesterday I received my Catechumen prayer from my priest. You along with a few other KZbinrs helped me become more open to orthodoxy, and have helped me understand it. Once again thank you, and God bless you! ☦️
@Gabsboy123
@Gabsboy123 Жыл бұрын
Amen and glory to God
@OrthodoxMidwife
@OrthodoxMidwife Жыл бұрын
Welcome home ❤️☦️
@67I36
@67I36 Жыл бұрын
I made my first visit to a Greek Orthodox church yesterday. Glory to God ❤️☦️
@nikolamilinovic1230
@nikolamilinovic1230 Жыл бұрын
Woohoo🎉🎉🎉 Happy for you bro😊
@KingTonyBatts
@KingTonyBatts Жыл бұрын
@@67I36That’s amazing, glory to God! I’m at a Greek Orthodox Church as well brother ❤️☦️
@jeremyfirth
@jeremyfirth Жыл бұрын
"Once saved, always saved" is similar in spirit to "once married, always married". If you don't act faithfully in your marriage and remain faithful to your spouse, your marriage can definitely come to an end. You can lose your marriage, in other words.
@evans3922
@evans3922 Жыл бұрын
Once saved always saved refers to the human nature. Indeed the human nature was once and for ever redeemed by Lord Jesus Christ. Human nature is now deified on the right of God Father in the person of Logos Jesus Christ. But all of us as persons as individual Hypostasises need to be saved by personally being connected and United to Christ and this is actualized in His Church through the Holy Mysteries Holy Communion Confession and our personal ascetic efforts.And this is possible exactly because Our Saviour Jesus Christ saved our human nature in Himself otherwise there would be no way for us to be saved.
@Charlie-gk1uq
@Charlie-gk1uq Жыл бұрын
And Christ taught that there were some grounds for divorce. If someone is unfaithful to God, they risk being divorced from His church.
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
@@Charlie-gk1uq yeah most hyper gracers tend to demonize that.
@RhiannonSenpai
@RhiannonSenpai Жыл бұрын
@jeremyfirth Wow, that's a brilliant analogy!
@ZonexNT
@ZonexNT Жыл бұрын
Kind of a bad analogy in my opinion since the gift of God you don’t deserve or earn, as where marriage you earn it. Remember it’s by “Grace” remember God was faithful to us when we were not to him.
@IAmDawnPatrol
@IAmDawnPatrol Жыл бұрын
Protestants be like: "This gave me anxiety 😞, so I created my own denomination!" 😀
@jirizelona485
@jirizelona485 10 ай бұрын
Hail solus scriptorium
@sickowhale6861
@sickowhale6861 9 ай бұрын
One true church will never call their leaders a "Father" because Jesus told us not to call them father since there is one and only Father, The God of Israel. It is pretty blatant naming like worship of Mary which Jesus Christ Himself prohibited(worshipping His biological family members). Also one true church will never blame other bretheren who are currently dying for Christ, being persecuted for Christ, being spat at, tortured, murdered for Christ. The one true church would never do that, Jesus Christ Himself would never do that, Peter would never do that, Christians, would never do that, because that's what demons do. There are people in North Korea right now, at this moment, being brutally murdered and beaten up just becasue of the name of Christ, and there are protestants in my country still trying to get into North Korea risking all that just to spread gospel of Jesus Christ. If God put you and them in front of Him, do you think your naming of yourself "Orthodoxy" would add anything to you? You are nothing when you stand next to those saints, and if you think just being proud of being a part of a denomination would cover all that arrogance, your conscience as christian is dead. What about underground churches in China? First of all in a denominational sense they are protestants, but they don't have their fancy buildings(not that I'm saying owning one is wrong), they just gather around and worship God biblically. They don't think about being protestants or anything, they just serve Christ and their neighbors. What do you think of them? Oh, real christians MUST BE orthodoxy so you're gonna dress them a black robe and until then they are not gonna be saved by God? How about Mr. Richard Wurmbrand? Locked up for years by communists government because of his underground church ministry, tortured, and died helping persecuted christians? You would say he is not a christian? I never say Orthodoxy is not christians, but you need to be careful between being original and arrogant.
@OrthoYhos
@OrthoYhos 6 ай бұрын
@@jirizelona485sola scriptura?
@We.are.all.human.
@We.are.all.human. 6 ай бұрын
​@@OrthoYhos Sola scriptura is claiming that the bible is completely fact. Orthodox, I believe, don't remember Jesus telling anyone to read the bible.
@dallasbrat81
@dallasbrat81 6 ай бұрын
more like protestants are full of ex Catholics who felt uneasy with the lies
@Gabsboy123
@Gabsboy123 Жыл бұрын
I had been charitable to the TikTok Evangelical dude till the part where he insulted the Theotokos. Coincidentally I saw another video on my feed of a Prot street preacher accusing an Orthodox man of worshipping Mary because we call her the mother of God. Many Protestants aren't even aware that they're Nestorian when they attack these titles for Mary. Mary is the mother of God because she gave birth to the Divine Logos, the second person of the Trinity. That means that God was born of a human virgin. And if Prots deny this, then they would have to deny as well that God died on the cross. I think that they have this presupp that calling Mary the mother of God means that she is a god, or that she created the divine nature of Jesus in the Incarnation, both of which we Orthodox obviously reject. Acknowledging that Mary is the mother of God is necessary for a Christian, because that's tied to acknowledging that Jesus is both fully God and fully man. Otherwise you end up being either Arian, Nestorian, Monophysite or polytheist
@icxc1233
@icxc1233 Жыл бұрын
A guy at my parish recognized the Nestorian leanings in Protestantism. I never recognized it until he brought up good points about it. At least for Evangelical Protestants this is true.
@presupping4eva
@presupping4eva Жыл бұрын
David Lynn? Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy, and glory to you for the Theotokos, our Queen Mother.
@B3nluke
@B3nluke Жыл бұрын
Honestly it seems he doesn’t take correction super well (from personal experience), and he also called me a “Roman Catholic” for saying I would rather trust someone more knowledgeable than myself (assuming they aren’t a heretic) with what scripture means, but apparently we shouldn’t have someone else teach us what scripture means, and we shouldn’t lean on our own understanding, so that is kinda a contradiction there
@harrygarris6921
@harrygarris6921 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfirth Catholics do not believe Mary is the 4th member of the Trinity. Give me a break. If you’re going to get upset about Protestants straw manning your position don’t turn around and do the same thing to Catholics.
@jeremyfirth
@jeremyfirth Жыл бұрын
@@harrygarris6921 I might not be using the correct phrase in saying she is considered the "4th member of the Trinity". However, issues with the doctrine of Immaculate Conception (which is, indeed, a Roman Catholic innovation) leads to her being called a "Co-Redemptress" with Christ, and Malou, Bishop of Brouges, wrote that "the Holy Virgin is exalted to a certain equality with the Father, to a certain superiority over the Son, to a certain nearness to the Holy Spirit" in his book called "Immaculate Conception". St. John Maximovitch expands on this heresy and its implications in his book called "The Orthodox Veneration of Mary, the Birthgiver of God".
@michaelsmith8028
@michaelsmith8028 Жыл бұрын
The early Protestants almost switched to Orthodoxy, but they clung to the Filioque. One of the saddest events in history.
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake Жыл бұрын
Also the correspondency letters between Luther & The Patriarch of Constantinople was halted for a quite long time. By the time The Patriarch's reply letter to Luther arrived, Luther already passed away & Protestanism already expanded its own theology & hit the point of no return.
@Hypogeal-Foundation
@Hypogeal-Foundation Жыл бұрын
​@@P.Whitestrake Damn, sweden was almost normal
@arturmonteiro8541
@arturmonteiro8541 Жыл бұрын
i doubt it would work because of the rejection of the sacraments and Luther literally trying to remove Hebrew from the Bible?
@lukericker8325
@lukericker8325 11 ай бұрын
@@arturmonteiro8541Luther didn’t reject the sacrements
@arturmonteiro8541
@arturmonteiro8541 11 ай бұрын
@@lukericker8325 im pretty sure he rejected most of them, except baptism and communion.
@way2tehdawn
@way2tehdawn Жыл бұрын
I'm in the "protestant" community as you would call it and it's funny because when I bring up points of Orthodox ecclesiology individually, they agree with me on everything individually but when you advocate for ALL of it together they object. At my churches AGM I managed to convince them using the Bible that we needed to celebrate the Lord's Supper every Sunday and they agreed (even though it contradicts the idea that having the Lord's Supper every week is a superstition), then I argued for the acknowledgement of the real presence (which my denomination should anyway by the very words of their own catechism) and they agreed, I brought up then that the first article of our catechism is to have scripture as our chief authority and that given there's agreement on these 3 things we should acknowledge the real presence and practice the Lords Supper every Sunday, they said no because it's "catholic". There's other baffling contradictions too like someone telling me that Constantine turned Christianity from a relationship with God into a religion, I asked him what was so bad about the edict of Milan he said "what's that?" so I just dropped it, I could see where that one was going. I'm kind of going insance in this community.
@aaronwolf4211
@aaronwolf4211 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like Truth is knocking at the door. Find an canonical Orthodox parish near you and begin attending the Liturgy. Ideally ROCOR, OCA, Antiochian, or Serbian. If those aren’t nearby then Greek, Bulgarian, or Romanian. Get an Orthodox prayer book and start doing the prayers and ask God to guide you into Holy Orthodoxy. There’s no point spinning your wheels where you are!
@lolsing2205
@lolsing2205 Жыл бұрын
well to be fair i think most people(normal) would agree that Constantine more or less used Christianity for political purposes to deal with the crisis that had began before him but he did do good by Christianity so you are right . whether or not Constantine Really cared about the faith we dont know but it was a good move for both him and Christianity
@olubunmiolumuyiwa
@olubunmiolumuyiwa Жыл бұрын
Yea bro, you demonstrate 2 key problems in Protestantism. 1) NOONE has to listen to your interpretation of scripture. Your understanding is NO authority over anyone else because "men are fallible". It can even be correct interpretation, but again noone is *bound* by your reading. 2) You should start to realise from this experience that Protestantism is simply a reaction to catholicism rather than a "reformation" of Catholic doctrine as it started to be. Protestantism is concerned with simply *Not being/looking catholic.* They don't care about the Truth of Christ or correct worship. If correct worship means to them that they "look" catholic, they'd rather disrespect and disobey Him than "look" catholic. This is actually why Protestants don't like the Orthodox Church. Orthodox looks to "catholic" to them, so they group them together, when they're completely different in Theology, Liturgy, Worship, Monasticism, Structure among many other things. The solution here is to become Orthodox, you won't have to deal with this nonsense. Find a local Orthodox parish (look for one in english if you can) and after the Divine Liturgy, simply walk up to the priest and ask him questions about things you don't understand. Orthodox understand that the Church is the piller and ground of Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). Hope this helps :) 🙏🏾
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
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@austinwalker1069
@austinwalker1069 Жыл бұрын
@@olubunmiolumuyiwa On that topic of protestants rejecting practices because they "look catholic", during the 16th and 17th centuries, the puritans and pilgrims established colonies in North America to practice their religion, as I'm sure you know. The puritans were reformists, meaning they wanted to "reform" the Anglican church (i.e. they wanted to get rid of all the "catholic elements" still present in Anglicanism), while the pilgrims were separatists, believing that the Anglican church had completely defected because they still had "catholic elements", and they wanted to build a new church with no "catholic elements". Countless sects of protestantism (baptists, methodists, quakers, etc) were literally started because protestant reformers and separatists actively tried to create new churches devoid of anything that resembled Roman Catholicism, which in turn actually led to hatred and bigotry against Roman Catholics in these early colonies. Protestants rejecting teachings because they "look catholic" is far from a new thing, it is literally the reason why probably thousands of protestant denominations and heresies even exist, and you can also say is part of the reason why America even exists.
@_Amarin
@_Amarin Жыл бұрын
It cracks me up everytime protestants complain about the catholic church when all of their denominations are literally a product of catholicism😂
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
ya haha they both need to become Orthodox. pray for them!
@michaelau5159
@michaelau5159 Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyle how about just being a Christian? Do you think that would work? You know identifying with Christ not anything else that would fool people.
@markhavick7115
@markhavick7115 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelau5159 When they say Orthodox, that's just another way of saying original. They are claiming to be the original followers of Christ's teachings without reform. The original following of Christ's teachings in congregate is called the church. So they are saying in essence that they are the "original church(following) of Christ". In other words, they are claiming to be what you suggest when you say "identifying with Christ (more specifically Christ's commands as well) not anything else that would fool people".
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard Жыл бұрын
@michaellau You're talking about post reformation non denominalizationism. That's just cringe when you have the choice to go to a church that predates all that heresy.
@michaelau5159
@michaelau5159 Жыл бұрын
@@markhavick7115 They are claiming to be "better" because of a name. Peter and Paul were Christians not Orthodox not Catholic but Christians. The naming convention ignores Christ.
@Fallen_2003
@Fallen_2003 Жыл бұрын
The more I watch videos, the more I’m starting to believe that the Eastern Orthodox were right all along. I can’t believe Martin Luther removed a book from the bible. I just checked mine, and low and behold, it wasn’t there. Thanks for the book recommendations as well.
@voxlknight2155
@voxlknight2155 Жыл бұрын
A book? Try _several._
@Fallen_2003
@Fallen_2003 Жыл бұрын
@@voxlknight2155 you’re right.
@ofauvi2089
@ofauvi2089 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t just one book 💀
@voxlknight2155
@voxlknight2155 Жыл бұрын
@@sentinelUSA05 Well, there's Sirach, Tobit, 1,2 and 3 Maccabees, 1 Ezra, Baruch, Judith and parts of other books, like sections of Daniel and Esther, and Psalm 151 (actually, it's Psalm 150, as the Psalms were for whatever reason numbered and split differently by the Protestants. Psalms 9 and 10 are actually one Psalm, for instance).
@Fallen_2003
@Fallen_2003 Жыл бұрын
@@sentinelUSA05one thing is for sure: the book of Maccabees he referenced was removed. A quick google search can help you find which books were removed.
@curiousclicksofficial
@curiousclicksofficial Жыл бұрын
Protestantisim is like coffee without caffeine
@star-bit
@star-bit Жыл бұрын
Decaf is Blasphemy yuck
@evans3922
@evans3922 Жыл бұрын
​​@@star-bitwhy? I like the taste of coffee and it's antioxidant benefits but I can't stand the caffeine effects on my heart and nerves... I enjoy decaf
@star-bit
@star-bit Жыл бұрын
@@evans3922 fair I just drink it for the boost
@fadikhoory5350
@fadikhoory5350 Жыл бұрын
No, that's Catholicism, Protestantism is just coffee grains.
@curiousclicksofficial
@curiousclicksofficial Жыл бұрын
@@fadikhoory5350 🤣🤣🤣 my g , couldn’t have said it any better
@caiomegaverse5590
@caiomegaverse5590 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was raised in Protestantism, and now is studying Catholic and Orthodox Churches, I can only think of one thing: "now it all makes sense!!!!"
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
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@ThePreacherman9
@ThePreacherman9 10 ай бұрын
you've just fallen into heresy
@Phantom-xp2co
@Phantom-xp2co 10 ай бұрын
​@@ThePreacherman9he fell into heresy the moment he stepped into a protestant church
@FatKat911
@FatKat911 10 ай бұрын
​@@ThePreacherman9 Protestantism is heresy my guy
@ThePreacherman9
@ThePreacherman9 10 ай бұрын
@@FatKat911 who is a protestant?
@burger3856
@burger3856 Жыл бұрын
I got the chance to visit the Orthodox Church I mentioned in one of your previous videos, I loved it! It was so much more reverent than Protestants, which is actually saying a lot because the denomination I grew up with isn’t known for most of the shenanigans Protestants are stereotypes for. I plan on going more often now that the ice is broken, God bless!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God! reach out if you have questions
@OftheDay777
@OftheDay777 Жыл бұрын
The parable of the 10 virgins absolutely destroys the notion of “once saved always saved”
@BrotherInChristDK
@BrotherInChristDK Жыл бұрын
How it looks to me that the virgins didn’t carry extra oil aka the holy sprit
@rl_henson
@rl_henson 8 ай бұрын
Not at all.
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard 7 ай бұрын
@@rl_henson It absolutely does. Even what Christ said about "not all who say "Lord, Lord" will be saved. "Did we not prophecy in thy name?" And yet he denied ever knowing them.
@rl_henson
@rl_henson 7 ай бұрын
@@eddardgreybeard Yeah in that verse he says “I never knew you” not “I don’t know you anymore” which means these people weren’t saved to begin with. Look at the reasons they think they should get into heaven. Their works. All the things they did in His name. They trusted the works of their own hands and not Jesus for their salvation. Not only does this verse you mentioned support once saved always saved, but supports salvation by faith alone.
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard 7 ай бұрын
@@rl_henson Yes, you thought you were saved, he never knew you. Pretty proud of you to assume he knows you. Obviously up to him to decide, not you.
@living_orthodox
@living_orthodox Жыл бұрын
“We can read the Bible for ourselves”. Does he not realize that when the Bible was written and until well after the printing press was invented, that most people weren’t literate nor could one just get a Bible? Protestantism is ultimately anachronistic.
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
Many Protestants say scripture alone, read with the holy spirt guiding you . But teach many different things. This was my final straw with Protestantism. Who do I believe the Baptist the Calvanist, sda, the Hebrew Israelites etc. 😂😂😂
@BecomeAnOrthodoxChristian
@BecomeAnOrthodoxChristian Жыл бұрын
Great point, Father Mikhail!
@Luuv_Jesh
@Luuv_Jesh Жыл бұрын
@@yoshiavrianyou don't believe the Holy Spirit can guide a person for the Word? Interpretations are bound to cause denominational splinters, evidence that we still live in this sinful world. I've been looking at denominations lately and I'm not convinced by many of them. The Catholics said they are the truth, and you Orthodox say that you're the truth. The Catholics say that Orthodox people are heretics, and the Orthodox to the Catholics reply the same. That's why I'm now simply content with Non-Denominational Protestantism. God be with all of us. -Davidtin
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
@@Pizzacat.25 “read it your self” that’s what I did when I first became a Christian. plus this isn’t a papist channel so the pope is not relevant, Many people to bring up verses to justify what they believe (predestination, osas, salivation is only Israel not the everyone, Jesus isn’t God, the holy spirt is an it and created, etc…) saying believe this because sola fide the Holy Spirit told me this correct they are fine with it. It’s so many contradictions when people say this. Regarding what you said about I need no one/tradition to read it but to read it myself, how do I know if I’m correct. Just like building legos you need a instruction manual. Without it you can mess up. With it when you follow it it comes out perfect. Same way with reading scripture with tradition
@living_orthodox
@living_orthodox Жыл бұрын
@@Pizzacat.25 we don’t have a pope. If you weren’t so ignorant or Gnostic you would see that in Acts the word overseer is the word episcopos in Greek. The root of the word Bishop. Explain to me then if God is solely spirit. Provided you can understand contextual references to the Father Vs references to the divine nature (God), which we also say, Christ is God, then how did the Word become flesh in your wooden reading? You can read the words on the page but the Spirit eludes you o spiritual atheist. Explain St Paul’s warning on the unworthy reception of the Eucharist (communion) in 1 Corinthians, or what Jesus says in John 6:56-67? I assure you if you avoid the incarnational reality of what is written then you are indeed a Gnostic who has taken the name Christian, to which he has no right. The greatest lie the Protestants tell themselves is that no one else reads scripture. Oh we do and the difference is we don’t lean on our own understandings as you have presupposed by your crass statements. Does it not take “works” to spew the demonically inspired heresy you are trying to”preach”? What of the “works” to print the Bible? Translate it? Read it? The effort to overcome sin? Jesus established a Church (Matthew 16) and no it didn’t need reformation, unless you think Satan had a 1500 years (+) victory depending on your sectarian leanings on what man made/centred nonsense you believe. Christ established a Church. Not a Bible. In fact reading the Bible is never exclusively spoken of as a means to salvation. So how do you suppose the poor vast majority of illiterates got by with no printing press? You realize that for the first 100 plus years many wouldn’t have heard all the Pauline epistles? Or how about this? The first book of the NT which was written was 1 Corinthians and that was not addressed to a vast public via a printing press. St Paul wrote to a local Church unified to other local churches in true faith and doctrine. Something your cult of one fundamentally lacks. Your faith is in fact man centred. Your means of salvation is mere mental ascent (what you believe and emotionally feel about God) and removes any means by which God can interact with you in materiality. The incarnation has a distinct purpose. It wasn’t to teach but to heal for Christ never wrote a single word. Timothy also says the Church is the pillar and ground of truth. Not the Bible alone. In fact the term Bible is never found in the Bible. Protestant “churches” with their rock concert “worship” bands (of the self) are also pretty lacking in scripture. As is Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura and all the solas. None of them are by themselves. Rather faith, grace and works are synergistic and with true faith works will manifest and with effort faith grows. Salvation is a work. In fact St Paul says to work it out with fear and trembling which given your arrogant reply, is safe to assume you lack. Fear of the Lord is beginning of wisdom. The rejection and reduction of what He came to establish is the opposite of wisdom. Do with my reply what you will. But you didn’t say anything in good faith.
@Paddle-N-Fish
@Paddle-N-Fish Жыл бұрын
I am Orthodox and still didn't understand why we called Theotokos the Queen of heaven! Thanks for the very helpful and easy to understand explanation!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
No problem. God bless!
@redeemed354
@redeemed354 Жыл бұрын
If Jesus is The King, who physically/bodily sits on David's Throne forever, then it follows biblically/logically, that Mary, The Blessed Mother, sits at Christ right hand as The Queen Mother, as almost all Israelite Kings did in appointing their Mothers as Queens instead of their wives
@perelium-x
@perelium-x 9 ай бұрын
@@redeemed354 So you equate her Place Next to The Almighty? Next to his Throne? Never in the bible was she called Queen. By your traditions you have corrupted the word. There is no Queen of Heaven. There is only King of Heaven and his name is Yeshua The Almighty
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard 7 ай бұрын
@@perelium-x *So you equate her Place Next to The Almighty?* Christ sits to the right hand of God and His mother to the right hand of Christ. There's only one throne for the King and Christ is sitting in it. To suggest there's no biblical basis for a Davidic King to have a Queen mother suggests you never read the book of Kings. *There is only King of Heaven and his name is Yeshua The Almighty* WHO CALLED MARY KING?!
@cgabriel777
@cgabriel777 6 ай бұрын
this title is related to the most common orthodox prayer dedicated to the Mother of God (Axion estin), where is said the She is above cherubim and seraphim. "More honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the seraphim". That means She is the Queen of angels. This prayer was learned by an athonite monk from an angel.
@thatsriiiiight4170
@thatsriiiiight4170 Жыл бұрын
It must be so humbling getting refuted by an apple
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Apple Apostle is great
@RotneybotOfficial
@RotneybotOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyleVeggieTales for Adults
@mango38628
@mango38628 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@odisho100
@odisho100 6 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@redcenturion88
@redcenturion88 Жыл бұрын
I've begun to venture into Orthodoxy mainly through study. But my wife is a convicted protestant so whenever I undertake to attend liturgy we argue and I end up staying home. Please pray for me. I feel like I'm going to miss out on the true practice and is deeply saddening.
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 Жыл бұрын
Pray for her first and foremost.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Be patient, pray. do not argue. watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3mZhqqhaN9gg9ksi=Bm_NuOxU--DX4bAK It will work out, just give it time, gotta win over their MOOD first, then their heart / mind
@redcenturion88
@redcenturion88 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both 🙏
@jollyroyale1590
@jollyroyale1590 Жыл бұрын
Same situation. You're not going to argue her into the Church. Pray and be patient. Long-suffering and love are the key. It's not going to happen on your timetable. Attend when you are able, and cling to the Faith.
@m1nas953
@m1nas953 11 ай бұрын
The best way to learn about Orthodoxy is to experience it.
@apollosantaniello4862
@apollosantaniello4862 Жыл бұрын
Love the Joshua Graham voice. Found a good Orthodox girl at my school. Glory to Christ.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
It is Apple Apostle voice and glad you found! God bless you both
@lbwnova6654
@lbwnova6654 Жыл бұрын
“The Holy Spirit helps us interpret scripture, we don’t need to go through some church” then how does he explain the millions of “Christians” who are pro abortion, pro LGBT etc etc. Obviously people need discernment to recognize what is told to them by the Holy Spirit vs by the devil. And I would much rather trust the discernment of the holy people of the past 2 thousand years, who’ve fasted and suffered and prayed their entire Christian lives, than even my own discernment
@order_truth_involvement6135
@order_truth_involvement6135 Жыл бұрын
This should be common sense
@cgabriel777
@cgabriel777 6 ай бұрын
people that are "pro LGBT" and "pro abortion" are not real believers, they are atheists that consider Christianity a set of moral rules invented by the people who lived in the past, and can be modified or "improved" by the modern people as they like.
@TheOrthodoxK1ng
@TheOrthodoxK1ng Жыл бұрын
That liar blocked me after i refuted 2 of his video😂😂
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd Жыл бұрын
I suppose nobody told him that the Orthodox Church gave them the Bible & it didnt even exist for at least a full generation after the Church & our oral & ritual traditions were set. Lord have mercy.
@xertzi9182
@xertzi9182 Жыл бұрын
How to counter sola scriptora 2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
@razoredge6130
@razoredge6130 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean you can't value scripture over tradition.
@olubunmiolumuyiwa
@olubunmiolumuyiwa Жыл бұрын
@@razoredge6130 It shows that they're equal.
@razoredge6130
@razoredge6130 Жыл бұрын
@@olubunmiolumuyiwa It says hold tradition. Not that they are equal.
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 Жыл бұрын
​@@razoredge6130 Scripture is part of Tradition. The Canon is Tradition, Exegesis is Tradition, even the Attributions of the New Testament are Extrabiblical. Separating one Tradition, Scripture, from another Tradition, the Apostolic Faith, is not how the Church is to operate.
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake Жыл бұрын
​@@razoredge6130 The Scriptures exist because of tradition. If you don't value tradition as you do on The Scriptures, then you're ironically don't value The Scriptures. Also in Protestanism, you actually follow a tradition of men, such as Martin Luther & Johannes Calvin, on how to understand The Scriptures. I'd rather follow the tradition of The Apostle that has been mantained since the 1st century, than follow the tradition that only came like 15 centuries later. Very ironic.
@bobbobb4804
@bobbobb4804 Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of conversations with the other Christians in my class, and now my friends who used to be baptist or non denominational have become Orthodox.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God!
@vitaignis5594
@vitaignis5594 11 ай бұрын
Non reformed Baptists are definitely opening up to Orthodoxy. Good signs with them
@emperorjustiniani8158
@emperorjustiniani8158 Жыл бұрын
Saint Ignatius wrote SEVEN LETTERS stressing the importance of THE CHURCH AND THE BISHOPS as well as the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist in the face of the Docestists. But the Protestants cope by going straight to the secular authorities for anything after Acts, so ironic
@wjckc79
@wjckc79 5 ай бұрын
Protestants are so hung up on Sola Scriptura, they refuse to investigate early Christian writings. As a former Protestant, now Orthodox, I only ever looked at Christian history starting now and working my way back. I had no idea how limiting this was. It was only when addressing a certain issue that I started with the New Testament and slowly worked forward. When I read the letters of Ignatius I was dumbfounded. I kept going from there. My earliest impression was the feeling that I had been lied to about Christianity in its Protestant form. The biggest disaster in Christian history was the adoption of scholastic theology in the West in the 12th century. All the bad things the Reformers fought against were born from this. The Reformers did not understand and basically said to the Catholic church "hold my beer: behold Reformed Theology!".
@Ohtiaraa
@Ohtiaraa Жыл бұрын
You should make a vid debunking Buddhism and/or Hinduism
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
He kinda did in orthodoxy and religion of the future
@Carmen.2001
@Carmen.2001 Жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle. I been watching your videos for some time since I accepted Christ a couple months ago. I was brought into Catholicism at a very young age, and now I am Protestant and have forgotten what the catholic traditions were like when I was a kid. I now have a deep interest in orthodoxy and would like to learn about the traditions, process into the orthodox denomination and the practices of it(explained) so that I can be educated about it as well as use the practices in my prayer life
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
watch these if looking into Orthodoxy: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8f7aOVmFtDRBBdTxpfO7k4w&si=uTSOtwJvqPmbUk32 watch these if Protestant: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8ceRe-hveesAjWERK3Rj8eV&si=b7nA-RUfRrj9MNBE Come visit a Church: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ God bless
@Carmen.2001
@Carmen.2001 Жыл бұрын
​@OrthodoxKyle thanks man! May God bless you
@krenteverlast8913
@krenteverlast8913 Жыл бұрын
Been seeing this guy a lot on my fyp, glad you’re addressing him!
@rjdXx.
@rjdXx. 9 ай бұрын
hey kyle idk if youll ever see this but just wanted to tell u n whoever else may listen that i went to an orthodox vesper service today. it was beautiful, felt very at peace and very comfortable. my biggest fault with orthodoxy n catholicism is the icons n im learning that theyre basically as veterans honoring fallen brothers in war. we recognize the heavenly host for they endurance in the walk of life. still not sure on the kissing n kneeling to of the icon when we walk in but possibly id come to my own on that. i met a very nice man there not sure if it was bishop or priest he was wearing all black n was the reader for the service. he gave me a booklet for tomorrows service n i will be going back for sunday worship. God bless brother
@orthoslavie
@orthoslavie 6 ай бұрын
When I saw this quote: "Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly." I thought it is a jock but when I googled it…
@Flavio-ts
@Flavio-ts Жыл бұрын
I don’t even know how much my heart gets troubled when I hear about protestant church it’s truly heartbreaking and I pray that many may leave that church because let’s be honest that’s not a church.
@valerios05
@valerios05 Жыл бұрын
The most enjoyable thing about your videos Kyle is literally the outro. Imagine destroying all Heresies in the world and finishing of with that outro just amazing. Also God bless you man you are the reason I realised all this time,even though I was baptised in the Orthodox Church, I was defending Christianity and believing in it like a Protestant. Now through orthodoxy I can defend the faith better and I feel more closer to God and the church then ever before and for that I thank you
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God!
@david11krdzavac
@david11krdzavac Жыл бұрын
Thank you our beloved father Applenarius for helping us understand our Church and Faith better.
@galvaizedsteel
@galvaizedsteel Жыл бұрын
James 2:24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
@tomtemple69
@tomtemple69 Жыл бұрын
James 2:23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God. Abraham BELIEVED AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS your good works contribute exactly ZERO percent to your salvation, its 100% God your good works are like filthy rags Isaiah 64: For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
@matejmizak7585
@matejmizak7585 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you're funny@@tomtemple69
@mariorizkallah5383
@mariorizkallah5383 Жыл бұрын
@@tomtemple69using Abraham to justify not working out your salvation with fear in trembling shows that you don’t understand the Old Testament yet alone the New. Please stop believing in traditions of men.
@pennsyltuckyreb9800
@pennsyltuckyreb9800 Жыл бұрын
​@tomtemple69 Your issue is your skewed and wrong definition of "belief/believe." Abraham DEMONSTRATED HIS BELIEF THROUGH HIS WORKS. "Belief" is not some mere mental consent. "Even the demons believe." Works are attached to "belief/believe." Even baptism is a work demonstrating belief and obedience.... "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?" ~ James 2:17-21
@olubunmiolumuyiwa
@olubunmiolumuyiwa Жыл бұрын
@@tomtemple69 Have you actually read Abraham in Gensis? Abraham is first called and believed in GENESIS 12:4. "So Abram departed *as the Lord had spoken to him..."* But the verse that that says: "Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness." Comes in Genesis 15:6, AFTER he had already DEMONSTRATED his faith/belief in his works when he rescues Lot.
@Brody-Aleksander
@Brody-Aleksander Жыл бұрын
Kyle, your work lowers my blood pressure.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God! pray for them!
@rl_henson
@rl_henson 8 ай бұрын
It raises mine
@Brody-Aleksander
@Brody-Aleksander 8 ай бұрын
@@rl_henson ?
@siervodedios5952
@siervodedios5952 Жыл бұрын
Every single person has the right (and responsibility) to read the Bible for themselves. However, not everyone has the right to interpret and teach the Scriptures.
@vladvlad11299
@vladvlad11299 10 ай бұрын
Subscribed the moment I've hear you're preaching Orthodoxy! God bless you and hope you're having a good time this Christmas Season!
@galvaizedsteel
@galvaizedsteel Жыл бұрын
That TikTok guy has spaghetti hair
@galvaizedsteel
@galvaizedsteel Жыл бұрын
@alfredpersson-br7yk True
@friedchickenlover7291
@friedchickenlover7291 Жыл бұрын
He blocks people who debunk him he’s blocked me and countless other Catholic/orthodox people.
@SgtPiper
@SgtPiper Жыл бұрын
Give me some proof of that
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake Жыл бұрын
A typical tiktok apologist moment. It shows that he's lacking of understanding on what tradition, The Scriptures, history, & The Church are. He, like other anti-Catholic/anti-Orthodox Prot apologists on tiktok, can't even back his argument up, thus chose to block & ran away to hide in his own bubble.
@friedchickenlover7291
@friedchickenlover7291 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtPiper idk what you want a screenshot of me not being able to pull up his account?
@KingTasos
@KingTasos Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣@@friedchickenlover7291
@Demi.d3mi
@Demi.d3mi 3 ай бұрын
he blocked me too 😂 and i was being respectful i think
@Magnus47362
@Magnus47362 Жыл бұрын
I am still a student (17) and want to visit an Orthodox church but my Parents do not allow it (because my family is atheist). What can I do?
@Orthoindian
@Orthoindian Жыл бұрын
wait and pray... go when God opens the door.
@tomtemple69
@tomtemple69 Жыл бұрын
don't listen to them, God says to honor your father and mother, but when they try to force you to deny God, they get no honor for that and you are obligated to tell them their error and disobey their sinful commands
@neilrex
@neilrex Жыл бұрын
You should try to go there anyway. It's better to be scolded by your parents than the Father almighty. Keep praying that your parents change their heart and pray for yourself. I'll pray for you too!! Keep us updated.
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o Жыл бұрын
Go to church, pray for your parents, and read the Scripture. Do not argue with them even if they punish you. Be good to them, honor them for their virtues and forgive them for their discrepancies. Remember that they love you and they believe what they are doing is good for you. God willing, they will gradually understand that this is your conscious choice just as disbelief is their conscious choice. If they respect your free will as a person, they should let you practice your faith.
@evans3922
@evans3922 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine a 17 years old in USA can not do something without the parents knowing about it... Yo can fool them as if you could fool them for other sinful deeds like alcohol or going to a bar... At least in Greece youths do it regularly...
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK Жыл бұрын
Prots lean on their own understanding, so that’s wild for him to say that.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
pray for him
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
It’s like learning to bake a cake without instructions, or building something with out the instruction manual.
@Aussstttinn
@Aussstttinn 3 ай бұрын
Ex Muslim here . Orthodoxy is The truth 🗿☦️🗣💯
@euloge996
@euloge996 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Catholic but I still watch your videos, nice work
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
thanks! I used to be Catholic, watch these: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8dRxtTvcdACuo3AOkvB9eb3&si=51eNmzzrSQjpdvxu Look into Orthodoxy! God bless!
@jackphalon880
@jackphalon880 Жыл бұрын
Same he’s got an entertaining delivery
@WolvesBaseballNine
@WolvesBaseballNine Жыл бұрын
The way the Appleman says Protestant is perfect. 4:30
@makingsmokesince76
@makingsmokesince76 Жыл бұрын
Everyone has a protesting aunt.
@JulianYbarra-g3u
@JulianYbarra-g3u 8 ай бұрын
Your videos lead me closer to orthodoxy and I recently converted to orthodoxy from Protestantism, god bless Kyle
@AimiliosChristidis
@AimiliosChristidis Жыл бұрын
I love patristic nectar. Cool that you brought him in!
@evans3922
@evans3922 Жыл бұрын
Fr. Josiah Trenham is a pearl
@kalebsmith3942
@kalebsmith3942 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Kyle for responding to this guy. God bless☦️🙏
@nathanbean8763
@nathanbean8763 Жыл бұрын
5:45 that’s why I came to orthodoxy from Protestantism. Thought Calvinists were nuts and read a lot of scripture and debated with them, but realized eventually how futile it was, one verse could look strong for Calvinists, one for me, and another could look good for either of us. Realized we needed a correct lens through which to view scripture, which is tradition
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Amen
@yolkonut6851
@yolkonut6851 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear an Orthodox priest on salvation, I can't tell you how confusing it is being interested in Orthodox while debating an agnostic and a Catholic/Jehovah's Witness family member.
@Call_Me_Trinity
@Call_Me_Trinity Жыл бұрын
This is a great break down. Thank you brother x
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
God bless!
@SeraphimWebster
@SeraphimWebster Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this video, I sent you his when I found it hoping you’d make this!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
thank you. I will respond to his newer video when I have time
@SeraphimWebster
@SeraphimWebster Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyle did he respond to you? Or make a second one about Orthodoxy?
@lukedeutsch1601
@lukedeutsch1601 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend and I are starting out Catechism in orthodoxy!! Thanks Kyle and bless you!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God!
@xSAINTPERKx
@xSAINTPERKx Жыл бұрын
The first KZbinr to introduce me to the Orthodox Church God bless Kyle!!!!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Glory to God! Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ watch these: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8f7aOVmFtDRBBdTxpfO7k4w&si=obSFubmkUtyFKR53 reach out if you have questions!
@catty5757
@catty5757 Жыл бұрын
ain't gon lie even not agreeing w/you on a lot of things (im becoming eastern catholic though), your protestant videos are hilarious and good. btw, no protestantism EVER will resist 30 minutes of a history lesson, specially if you read the early creeds and the church fathers.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
But why not just become Eastern Orthodox? I used to be Catholic, watch these: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8dRxtTvcdACuo3AOkvB9eb3&si=qOiIltQ8xLdfnQkq Look into Orthodoxy: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8f7aOVmFtDRBBdTxpfO7k4w&si=Z3ClzThIb7yTlknz Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
@MrWesford
@MrWesford Жыл бұрын
People don’t stay eastern Catholic long, it’s just a stepping stone to The True Church.
@exposingtruth600
@exposingtruth600 Жыл бұрын
I have just been getting into orthodoxy and this seems like the correct way I hope to become baptized in the Eastern Orthodox Church
@JohnGeometresMaximos
@JohnGeometresMaximos Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kyle.
@M.O.N.K.3
@M.O.N.K.3 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I discovered your channel and Orthodoxy, so many Protestants Christian churches make more atheist and Muslims then Christians, pray for them all to come to the truth amen brother ☦️❤️
@bobbobb4804
@bobbobb4804 Жыл бұрын
Most Protestants who convert to Islam become atheist
@tbnrcreator.official
@tbnrcreator.official Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to convince my Pentecostal/Non-denominational friend to join Orthodoxy. Can you make a video about why non-denominational is wrong? A little in depth on how you need a Church and you need the Sacraments? And also who speaking in tongues isn't biblical. Please make a video on this if you haven't already and if you did, please link it below. God bless ☦
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Send this: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8ceRe-hveesAjWERK3Rj8eV&si=Ca5-HmdClsseMOdJ First video is good because Non-Denominational is low Church and without key sacraments, without priesthood. "speaking in tongues isn't biblical." kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIqUfJh-fqihbMksi=4r1CCRF-t1KkVSd- send this also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZWzZaOmq7aNprcsi=jy7kMpEtj9lBYy4L do they know about Orthodoxy?
@tbnrcreator.official
@tbnrcreator.official Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyle Thanks so much brother! Your ministry is inspiring many. Yes, my friend does know a little about Orthodoxy because we talked about it a little. I told him about the sacraments (which are in the bible) and how you need them, while most Protestant churches don't have them. He said he was interested in history, so this might be a pushing point to get him to Orthodoxy
@TW-fs3fj
@TW-fs3fj Жыл бұрын
8:09 The title is Gebirah. She is the Queen Mother of Heaven, because her Son is the King of Heaven. If you don't think Mary is the Queen Mother of Heaven then you're basically affirming that you don't think Christ is the King of Kings.
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 Жыл бұрын
Or you hold to a Nestorian Christology
@TW-fs3fj
@TW-fs3fj Жыл бұрын
@@acekoala457 Sucks to be them
@OrangeMonke14
@OrangeMonke14 Жыл бұрын
Can you do an MCU movie tier list? I love Marvel btw😲😲😲😲
@Phil_Simpson
@Phil_Simpson 10 ай бұрын
This video is awesome, you should write a book, God bless
@demkillerus
@demkillerus Жыл бұрын
Its so weird listening to an apple give a good answer to the protestant, great vid!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Apple Apostle is great!
@budubam123
@budubam123 6 ай бұрын
Amazing channel. Keep up the good work, please ! Its great that you have kept your highly productive Protestant work ethic 😊👍
@jagdmeisterschuler1323
@jagdmeisterschuler1323 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Kyle! Keep up the awesome work!
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
thanks! God bless!
@songbird11332
@songbird11332 9 ай бұрын
As a catholic considering to convert to thr Orthodox Church. Thank you for this video
@trashpanda7195
@trashpanda7195 Жыл бұрын
I love the apple man, he always speaks the truth and presents it as it is.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Apostle Apple Strikes Again
@RevelationOne1718
@RevelationOne1718 10 ай бұрын
I was recently a Southern Baptist, and now Orthodox. In the Southern Baptist church I just didn’t feel like I was getting the actual purpose of the church, and I wanted to grow closer in a relationship WITH GOD. I wanted more understanding of context from the Biblical scriptures. That understanding and context is EXTREMELY lacking in the Southern Baptist church right now. I can already see this by just reading the Bible alone (on my third reading). I’m not here to say I have more knowledge than a Protestant pastor, but some of them have scared me with their interpretation of scripture. I’ve been reading and searching resources for the last FOUR YEARS!!! I finally came to the conclusion that the Orthodox Church gets as close to biblical scripture that you could possibly get.
@TSBDale373
@TSBDale373 Жыл бұрын
Hello Kyle. It is difficult to live out the Orthodox Christain life in my household. As a teen, my parents don't let me look into religion that much. They claim I'm "too young to start on that journey." Conversation with them is pointless as they just shut me down immediately and they don't seem to want to talk about it. I've been trying to go to my local Greek Orthodox church every Sunday to get in contact with a priest, but now it seems that my parents make us go somewhere conveniently during the Divine Liturgy, so I cannot attend. I want to tell them about church, but at the same time I know I can't because they'll probably just ensure that I never go there while I'm living with them. Do you have any advice on what to do? In the meantime, you and Fr. Josiah's videos have been a very helpful guide for me.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
This video is somewaht related: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3mZhqqhaN9gg9ksi=olx_N_VJg59Z72_f Just be patient, pray. do what you can at home! watch this: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8f7aOVmFtDRBBdTxpfO7k4w&si=NdpQPMrUWoCLiRc6 Join the discord (lots of people going through similar struggle) God bless!
@TSBDale373
@TSBDale373 Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyle Thank you.
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal 11 ай бұрын
​@@TSBDale373fucking materialists and modernists amirite.
@severianmonk7394
@severianmonk7394 14 күн бұрын
Maybe you could get out on Saturday night to attend Vespers ir, in Russian church, part of the Vigil.
@goaway7163
@goaway7163 4 ай бұрын
I think for majority of protestants (myself included) we NEED your patience and love. Mocking us isnt helpful and has the opposite effect. Although, I love a good meme. I have been immersed in understanding the Orthodox way for the past few weeks. I don't think i can ever sit in a protestant church again.
@lukaspersson4051
@lukaspersson4051 Жыл бұрын
He thought I was a universalist because I don’t believe God predestines people to go to hell
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
😭 tinfoil hat moment
@ileanagheorghisor
@ileanagheorghisor 9 ай бұрын
Hearing the prayer towards our beloved Mary, Mother of God in greek has absolutely left me in tears!!! I have only heard it in my native language and as beautiful as it is in it, the greek version is simply divine! 😍😍😍😍
@physicalgrafiti12345
@physicalgrafiti12345 Жыл бұрын
We are not praying to the dead when they are alive in Heaven.
@arcwiz
@arcwiz 7 ай бұрын
It's just odd that prots will simultaneously believe in an eternal afterlife in Heaven whilst saying that people are dead when you bring up saints.
@mewnny7477
@mewnny7477 4 ай бұрын
no where in the Bible does it say that people go to heaven when they die. Only Jesus acended to the father
@physicalgrafiti12345
@physicalgrafiti12345 4 ай бұрын
@@mewnny7477 Um...did read past the Gospel and Acts? It quite implicitly states we will "live with Christ." Both referring to life and a location.
@mewnny7477
@mewnny7477 4 ай бұрын
@@physicalgrafiti12345 we will live with christ after the ressurection 😭 Jesus preached the ressurection of the dead
@physicalgrafiti12345
@physicalgrafiti12345 4 ай бұрын
@@mewnny7477 Did you skip the part when Jesus is asked about marriage after death?
@sharkskin3448
@sharkskin3448 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@sharkskin3448
@sharkskin3448 8 ай бұрын
+1
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o Жыл бұрын
This guy talks about protestantism as if it's a single movement and doesn't have thousands of denominations that contradict eachother because everyone is following their own understanding of the Bible. It's incredibly dishonest.
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
Actually your comment is dishonest.. Protestanism started from a few movements in Western Europe trying to reform the Catholic Church (like I clearly said at the start of the video). There are fundamentals that nearly all Protestants agree on aka Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura. Half of this video was refuting the KEY idea of Sola Fide.. Which Protestant group does not accept it? I also LITERALLY word for word on screen that there thousands of denominations, some are more traditionals then others.. I also talked about radical reformation which informs a lot of American "Christiantiy"... Please address the content of the video instead of just calling people names...
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o Жыл бұрын
@@OrthodoxKyle I'm talking about the guy in the video you are commenting, Kyle. Not you. I just don't know his name, so that's why I'm calling him "the guy". God bless! :)
@Chherrycats
@Chherrycats 11 ай бұрын
I’m a Protestant Christian and have been thinking about Eastern Orthodoxy.the more I do my research on it the more it seems that Eastern Orthodoxy is the true church established by Jesus Christ. Pleas spray for my conversion to Eastern Orthodoxy my family are Anglican and wont allow me to convert or get baptized(I’m underage)
@barkobunga2276
@barkobunga2276 Жыл бұрын
0:00 can we just soak in the absolute irony of that statement.
@sti4493
@sti4493 Жыл бұрын
The memes might be amazing, but what really gets me is the sound effects
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
haha
@RhiannonSenpai
@RhiannonSenpai Жыл бұрын
19:33 This meme will never not be funny lol.
@Justeelisjust
@Justeelisjust Жыл бұрын
Kyle, what's the name of the AI voice generator you used (8:16)? I would definitely have use for that. Thanks & Blessings
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
there are a few popular ones... I think people like elevenlabs.io
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake Жыл бұрын
He claims Orthodox & Roman Catholic value more on tradition than The Scriptures. He doesn't understand the history that The Scriptures are the byproduct of tradition. Tradition came first before the written scriptures. That's why The Gospel in its original term is *Euangelion* that's literally meaning "a good announcement." It came from *the announcement* by The Apostles. It was a verbal tradition. How does he think The Scriptures were compiled/canonised into 1 Bible? It was checked using the established tradition of The Church as its benchmark. If there was a book that didn't fit The Churches tradition, it couldn't be included. That's why The Bible doesn't include books such as The Infancy Gospel of Thomas, The Gospel of Judas, The Gospel of Mary, etc. Those books didn't fit The Tradition & the teachings of The Apostles. In conclusion, how did The Church Fathers know which books to include because it's true? Because of tradition! That's why we should read The Bible through the lense of The Church's Tradition. Lord, have mercy. 🤦‍♂️
@SaphieaUwU
@SaphieaUwU 10 ай бұрын
I found the most interesting part of this was the part when you said you couldn't really know what would happen to the unbelievers when they're dead and that we should pray for the dead. For the longest time, I thought ALL Christians believe that the unbelievers would DEFINITELY go to hell, no and or but or whatever. Just now discover that this sect of thinking more or less comes from Protestants. Would you mind making an entire video dedicating on that matter and go more in depth into what the Orthodox church teaches about that? Thank you for your work ❤.
@Calebtheidiot
@Calebtheidiot 11 ай бұрын
I am Protestant, and I think Protestants are showing the wrong message about Protestantism. Martin Luther started the Protestant denomination in order to correct the Roman Catholic Church who were not teaching about Jesus properly, because as in the video, you showed that the Roman Catholics fled away from Orthodoxy leading to Catholicism. The reason why we follow the scripture only is because it was made by God, it is perfect and needs no correction, or help. I also think im kinda iffy because I researched on some of the *modern* Protestant beliefs and my dad and I didnt agree with them, such as confessing alone saves which I think is wrong because you need to live on the path of Jesus. Also some things like once saved always saved, you can lose your salvation if you dont believe Jesus died for our sins. I think Protestant has changed a lot from Martin Luthers attempt, the reason why my church is different from other protestant churches. Ours is more closer to Martin Luther.
@AKPolo-yk5zh
@AKPolo-yk5zh 7 ай бұрын
actually Catholicism is the first church not the other way around and you’re clueless
@Calebtheidiot
@Calebtheidiot 7 ай бұрын
@@AKPolo-yk5zh I never said that. I said Protestantism fixed it. If youi dont want a history lesson just skip this but in the roman empire about a century after Peter died the catholics and orthodox's split because catholocism worshipped mary and hung pictures of her and prayed to pictures of her. So Eastern orthodoxy then formed. After that, Protestants didnt completely agree with the Orthodox christians as they focused on tradition=scripture. What you said there was not a fact, it was a belief and you backed it up with an insult. Read scripture and understand history befeore calling someone else clueless
@whitemagiktiger
@whitemagiktiger Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you. God bless you. 🙏
@μιμηταὶτοῦθεοῦ
@μιμηταὶτοῦθεοῦ Жыл бұрын
Well done Kyle
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@iamjonah869
@iamjonah869 Жыл бұрын
As a prot looking at the Orthodox Church, brother I love your videos 😊
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
watch this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL6eyVWFC0v8ceRe-hveesAjWERK3Rj8eV&si=Sl_ddPSouZygK1N8 Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ God bless!
@jankasen7039
@jankasen7039 8 ай бұрын
I am a protestant and I love most of your videos but the hate between sects of christianity is so silly. Maybe don't see us as the church we are from and as individuals instead. The upmost important thing about being a christian is your personal relationship with christ. I don't think tradition is wrong I just don't see it as important to salvation. I think if you walk into a good protestant church you would find the teachings to be the same as your own. Of course all churches will very because people are evil at heart and corruption is inevitable. I've actually been really interested in orthodox christianity but the main reason I won't commit to it is that many orthodox christians treat the orthodox church as the one true church. A church is simply the gathering of believers to discuss the wonders of God. Have faith in God, not your church. edit: I am in no way defending the guy he is reacting to
@johnnyd2383
@johnnyd2383 7 ай бұрын
Christian sects are hideous... but this guy is member of the original Lord's Holy Orthodox Church.
@jankasen7039
@jankasen7039 7 ай бұрын
@johnnyd2383 so do I not have salvation because I am protestant according to you? Because I believe both you and I have salvation if we acknowledge Jesus christ as our lord and we repent of our sins.
@johnnyd2383
@johnnyd2383 7 ай бұрын
@@jankasen7039 We Orthodox leave that question to the Lord. However.! Mark 16, 16 spells out requirements for salvation. And if we unpack Baptism, for example, we will find that due to a non-existent Apostolic Succession in Heterodox communities, there are no valid Sacraments either, including Baptism. Remember story about foolish and mart virgins in the Bible. You do not want to be the one w/o oil in the lamp even though you are awaiting Bridegroom just as we smart virgins do.
@melonyrobinson9944
@melonyrobinson9944 2 ай бұрын
i don't like the hostility either but if i walked into a good protestant church it would still definitely not have the same teachings as us
@ty_m02
@ty_m02 10 ай бұрын
theres are some things i couldn’t even argue against. i recently became orthodox because after reading church history there were things i couldn’t refute against that Protestants always had confused on. and i used to be Anti-Catholic or Anti-Orthodox but now i understand church history. even reading the old testament i can see the history in that as well.
@Mystik_Wok
@Mystik_Wok Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Orthodox Christians praying the Rosary? The online Orthodox community seems to have mixed opinions on this so I asked my local Orthodox parish priest and he said it was okay because it’s a “devotion to the Theotokos”.
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o Жыл бұрын
The text of the rosary prayer doesn't seem to contradict Orthodox theology and belief, but it's always good to confirm with a priest before practicing it.
@david-468
@david-468 Жыл бұрын
I mean if you use it like a prayer rope I don’t see any problems with it
@raymondrider5337
@raymondrider5337 Жыл бұрын
Your priest told you it’s fine; don’t listen to some dude on the internet that you don’t know.
@evans3922
@evans3922 Жыл бұрын
Why to pray the rosary? You can pray with the Orthodox prayer rope in Greek κομποσχοίνι komboskini yes this black woolen rope with nine crosses woven in each knot ,no beads and say Most Holy Theotokos save me the sinner. What need to interfere with Roman Catholic practices we Orthodox have our own genuine prayers🎉
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK Жыл бұрын
People who like the rosary are too in love with Western Roman practices. We have prayer ropes and prayers of our own.
@THE_one_and_only_Nick
@THE_one_and_only_Nick Жыл бұрын
4:31 I am now gonna call Protestants (PROTO~STANT) 😂
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
@Zachery_Jiran
@Zachery_Jiran Жыл бұрын
Love learning Christianity from a talking apple.
@basedchump
@basedchump Жыл бұрын
3:02😂😂😂 yo that meme is an S+ tier meme
@stevenmcgown6552
@stevenmcgown6552 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, do you know where I can get a paperback copy of Rock and Sand? Everywhere I look online is sold out!
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
It’s coming out next month
@stevenmcgown6552
@stevenmcgown6552 Жыл бұрын
@@yoshiavrian thanks, how did you find that out; where can I get updates?
@petrisorblaga5506
@petrisorblaga5506 10 ай бұрын
The Orthodox faith is the true faith and Orthodox Church is the true Church ! ❤You brother ! Amen !
@nikkilengyel
@nikkilengyel Жыл бұрын
20:01 You debugged Protestants? Yeah, maybe they have a bug in their software and need to be debugged. 😄 Just messing with you. Great content as always! ❤ I'd love to see you make a video on Biblical defense of Icons and Saints (if you haven't already) citing scripture for that because Protestants say things like "Icons are demonic" and "saints are dead, you're praying to dead people and it takes away from The Father and it's idolatry" etc. I would love to hear your take on it, based in scripture for the Protestant crowd. Then I will refer them to your video. 😉 God bless you 🙏☦
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations Жыл бұрын
Crusades are our best!
@kardzYT
@kardzYT Жыл бұрын
bruh I ordered that book off of amazon and it got cancelled because they were already sold out, its sold out everywhere the only places i can find its listed for minimum 200$ 💀
@OrthodoxKyle
@OrthodoxKyle Жыл бұрын
dang. They should have audio books and I think Fr Josiah has lectures online about it!
@Ark_3311
@Ark_3311 Жыл бұрын
​@OrthodoxKyle he has the audio book in 2 parts of. On his channel at least I think he does
@yoshiavrian
@yoshiavrian Жыл бұрын
Hey I messaged them, it’s returning next month.
@MrWesford
@MrWesford Жыл бұрын
Your local Orthodox Church probably has a book store and will sell it for like $30
@kardzYT
@kardzYT Жыл бұрын
@@MrWesfordI wish they had that, i bought a wall cross from them was like 15$
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations Жыл бұрын
UNITED against islam
@orthonews2176
@orthonews2176 Жыл бұрын
Protestantism is relying on your own private interpretation of scripture- it's literally relying on man made traditions
@supermanandbatmanishere
@supermanandbatmanishere 7 ай бұрын
you guys do the same thing
@mariaarcheaellinida941
@mariaarcheaellinida941 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow man , im a young orthodox who confronted my own people , bc i only learn from protestants instead of considering that im alteady good where i am, God bless you, i love you ❤
@puromichoacan4213
@puromichoacan4213 Жыл бұрын
Protestants : u can't loose your salvation.. Geez : I wonder why the bible talks about hell 3x more than heaven and emphasizes that hell is a real place and it's forever.
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK Жыл бұрын
They’ll reply “you were never saved then!”
@puromichoacan4213
@puromichoacan4213 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealRealOK i was baptized as a baby (thing that they deny also) .. so if i was baptized as a baby and accepted Jesus father and holy spirit as a baby .. and since a baby i had faith .. how is it even possible to not be saved in the first place lol ?? I was saved as a baby so how would it be possible to "never be saved then lol" 🤦🏻🤦🏻
@puromichoacan4213
@puromichoacan4213 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealRealOK Jesus died for all our sins and they believe somehow,, we were never saved ?? This is protestant logic lmaoo 🤦🏻🤦🏻 we BEEN saved due to the sacrifice of Jesus,, so there's no way to have "never been saved " impossible lol.. .. its possible to loose salvation (thru your own sins,, but u were ALWAYS SAVED and always will be saved thru Jesus if u FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS THRU FAITH AND WORKS . AMEN 🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️✝️
@puromichoacan4213
@puromichoacan4213 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealRealOK im Catholic but I assume you are orthodox.. god bless you brother in Christ. The ORTHODOX adhere to the TRUE TEACHINGS of the apostols. (Even tho filioque and pope seperate us) we are STILL UNITED IN CHRIST AND HIS LOVE and TRUE TEACHINGS. . LOVE U BRO HAVE A GOOD DAY ♥️🙏🏻✝️☦️👍🏻☺️☝🏻
@TheRealRealOK
@TheRealRealOK Жыл бұрын
@@puromichoacan4213 No, I’m Orthodox. I was simply saying that Protestants will say you weren’t really saved if you lost your salvation because they don’t understand that once saved, always saved is a heterodox teaching.
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