Orthodoxy, Fairy Tales, & Neuralink (Jonathan Pageau)

[@pintswithaquinas]

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[@RootsofOrthodoxy]

Jonathan Pageau is the man! God bless you both

[@RussianLionboy]

@@RootsofOrthodoxy Yes, the pagan Gnostic man, along with his Postmodernist false prophet JP.

[@RussianLionboy]

The fact that all you western so-called EO here defend that blasphemer & his pretentious pagan farytales & think that is orthodox is the proof of how bad the state of the Church in the west.

[@stefanlouw6395]

This is probably the most relaxed I've seen Jonathan in an interview, so great.

[@hellomate639]

Give him more alcohol and cigars, apparently. He does often have this sort of low-level anxiety that you can feel through the screen.

[@noelhalvordson6465]

Scotch and cigars do the trick haha

[@tashatash3626]

The cigar and low lighting. He also had his hair tied back lol

[@RussianLionboy]

☦️He is always relaxed when he preaches his pagan farytsles & "symbolic world".

[@JoePalos91]

Definitely, this really speaks to Matt Fradd as an interviewer too.

[@Heathrlea]

Who else is here because they found Jonathan Pageau through Jordan Peterson? Love to both those men!

[@letruweldonothsa2622]

@@Heathrlea Peterson to Pints to Pageau and here I am again at Pints

[@SireTomWalker]

I also!

[@blythemajors9193]

Two great Gents

[@Pally-Main]

Hasn’t it been fun getting into this universe and then watching all your favorite people start talking to each other, I remember the days I prayed for Bishop Barron and Peterson to talk and now they’ve got a whole Gospels seminar

[@baselius662]

My path was Peterson -> Pageau -> Pints

[@casualchatwithamanda5996]

I just spent the last 6 months taking care of a lady who was Russian orthodox she was raised that way. She had 13 brothers and sisters. She died right before Christmas but she was absolutely amazing and I gleaned so much from her ❤ just wanted to honor her.

[@rosefincher7631]

🥰😇😘

[@thesampo]

Glory to God! May her memory be eternal.

[@adriandrozdek9769]

Jonathan played the most important role in my decision to get baptized in the Church. I will be forever grateful for this!

[@easternRomanOrthodox]

Jonathan & the American "orthodox" celebrate according to the new calendar! I can't believe it!! "Some Orthodox"? No, all EO suppose to celebrate according to the Julian calendar. What a buffoon your Jonathan!))

[@erica_mSoFla]

@@adriandrozdek9769 same 🥰

[@RussianLionboy]

@@adriandrozdek9769 The fact that you "EO" in the west think that the Gnostic Pegeau & his pagan farytales or blasphemous pretentious allegorizing is Orthodoxy is a proof of the low state of the Church in the west...

[@RussianLionboy]

Jonathan the so called "EO" played the most important role in eradicating Christianity in the west.

[@jonahanderson9101]

As an orthodox Christian who loves Pints/Matt Fradd this is a nice new years gift!

[@EOShorts]

Same!

[@RussianLionboy]

​@@EOShortsAnother westerner larping...God help us all...

[@EOShorts]

@@RussianLionboy I don’t understand your comment 🥺

[@RussianLionboy]

@EOShorts My point is no one has the right to call himself an EO when he cheers for a Gnostic pagan false prophet as Pegeau. Why aren't you outraged with the abomination he promotes?

[@RussianLionboy]

@EOShorts My point is: if you are EO why aren't you outraged & instead cheer for that Gnostic pagan false prophet?

[@TheDonovanMcCormick]

Getting Jonathan to talk for 3 hours. This has got to be the record. Love you gentlemen, good conversation. God bless.

[@ericjacobs7795]

He had a good one on Theories of Everything a few weeks back. Not as laid back as this one but very good.

[@naikhanomtom7552]

As an Orthodox man with two kids and a wife, this conversation was absolutely brilliant. So deep in so many ways. Thanks gentlemen.

[@benjaminlquinlan8702]

The Brothers Pageau should be remembered in this time...

[@DerekJFiedler]

💯

[@joshranowsky8083]

In a fairytale like the Grimm brothers.

[@wasumyon6147]

Bring on mah boy matthieu!

[@LevDavidovichCampos]

​@@joshranowsky8083☦️Yes, the pagan trash that your Gnostic pseudo-orthodox promotes.

[@yungjethro7248]

Love seeing Pageau all over. Definitely helped me understand Orthodoxy years ago and now I'm in the church! Bless this man. ☦

[@alexlight4178]

Glory to God

[@Pally-Main]

This is the best I’ve ever heard Pageau articulate himself and symbolism. Matt seems to be a perfect fit to bring out the best in him.

[@RussianLionboy]

@@Pally-Main Do you like his pathetic pretentious pagan blasphemous allegories as much as the clown Trump's nonsense?

[@marcschaeffer1584]

​@RussianLionboy if your calling people pagan that means you are... Christian? Most people who voted for trump wanted to stop wars. I don't think I would take criticism from a Christian who thirsts for blood and trolls for fury. Change your tactic and I would listen to what you have to say.

[@midmomom2490]

@@RussianLionboywow & happy new year to you too 🥴

[@RussianLionboy]

@midmomom2490 Marry Christmas tomorrow not a happy new year🙏❤️

[@midmomom2490]

@@RussianLionboy bot

[@Dasha-c4s]

I feel like being in the Orthodox church, the mere presence there during a liturgy, the mere reciting of the prayers from the Bible, because it's all biblical, just always brings me to tears. Standing and sacrificing yourself for Christ, embracing the goal of theosis, bettering yourself for your brethren, there's so much depth to that. It feels so much bigger than the self. I love Catholicism too because of Mary's deep and pervading love of her children, and bring that understanding of the rosary to my veneration of the Theotokos. This ultimate respect for God in Orthodoxy is so special. As an Orthodox person who regularly goes to Mass and Liturgy, I wish the church was united because I feel like the Orthodox faith misses out on closeness with Jesus through his mother in an emotional and familial way and Catholicism could gain that emotional humble sacrifice of the self. In the same way that I think that Catholicism could stress more the process of theosis and cleansing of sins through compassion, to see sin as a disease and not a legal act. If people experienced both sides, there is so much understanding and growth that can come with that.

[@mikeoconnor4590]

I attend / worship primarily in the Byzantine rite but absolutely love the traditional Latin Mass as well Words cannot adequately express the beauty of those rites and the closeness that one is drawn to God while worshiping in these traditional rites

[@Marsalis_CW]

Kinda crazy how similar me an Pageau's story is. I am a Cajun from Louisiana. I have a strong Catholic family history. I was raised protestant, never baptized as a Catholic. Around 19-20 yrs I found and fell in love with Orthodoxy(never gave Catholicism a fair shake) and now i'm Roman Catholic. But I still love Orthodoxy. I came to the conclusion that Catholicism and Orthodox differences are so little, that it didn't make sense to remain separate from the Church that is rightfully mine. This is my church that was taken from me. I feel this is my people and this is my heritage. But Louisiana didn't abandon Catholicism like Quebec did.. It's still pretty strong here.

[@SirMemesAlot71]

I’m different because I’m a Cajun that did decide to convert. There are significant differences between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. And I don’t think Cajuns abandoned Catholicism, but Catholicism abandoned us. My grandparents were beaten by Catholic nuns for speaking French. The Bishop of Lafayette was known for refusing to do funerals for people who committed suicide, but frequently took bribes and did funerals for suicide victims whose families paid enough. Annulments come by easy. Priests don’t commune mentally disabled people. And on the larger scale the Pachamama debacle proved that the Pope isn’t infallible with regards to faith and morals. So why even be Catholic? Some say that’s my heritage, but Saint Paul tells gentile converts to Christianity that Abraham is their ancestor. So I’m comfortable with Orthodoxy being the true religion of my ancestors because my ancestors are the Church Triumphant

[@Marsalis_CW]

@SirMemesAlot71 I'm not gonna deny the bad things you speak of, but are you really abandoning Cathaolicism because of corrupt hierarchs and sinful people? When you undoubtedly encounter corrupt and sinful Orthodox hierarchs, are you going to abandon them as well? That's not a good reason. I am aware of the bad things Catholicism has been a part of, at least the corruption. But I am determined to be a part of the solution, to fight for the Church, not abandon it. That's what commitment is.

[@laurmhayes]

@@SirMemesAlot71 Was Pope Francis kneeling before a statue of Our Lady of the Amazon, which has already been proven NOT to represent Pachamama, an ex cathedra statement? Even if the statue were an idol of Pachamama, he wouldn't have been infallibly defining dogma on faith or morals. Papal infallibility doesn't prevent the Pope from ever sinning or doing anything inadvisable. That part of your comment alone demonstrates that you were severely lacking in your understanding your Catholic faith. You are always welcome back in the Church! If you're going to remain Orthodox, I'd encourage you to at least comprehensively understand the faith you left.

[@AugustasKunc]

​@laurmhayes it's hard to understand Catholicism when it doesn't understand itself. It's been constantly changing for the last 1000 years and is not backwards compatible with itself through time.

[@laurmhayes]

@@AugustasKunc What's more coherent - That the scope of the Papacy grew over time as the Church grew (Catholicism), or that the One True Church has been out of its own 'First Among Equals' for 1000 years? (Orthodoxy)

[@TeamDiezinelli]

The way Jonathan thinks, talks, how he explaines the fairy tales and how it arches into our lifes it’s just excellent. Thank you!

[@DerekJFiedler]

Jonathan Pageau, fine way to start the new year 🥂

[@RussianLionboy]

@@DerekJFiedler Yes, with pagan farytales & pretentious Postmodernist blasphemies, yeah real "orthodox"...

[@peppy619]

"The children who were raised to get anything they want anytime they want, now they want meaning." Powerful

[@jessiebeveridge742]

Very clear and true statement. To drill down…now [some] want meaning.

[@user-tp7wi4lt2b]

That was like the Pageau version of that quote from Fight Club 😂

[@stevennewberg9993]

Watching Matt help Jonathan with his cigar and Jonathan help Matt with concepts is just a perfect representation of the current structure (and the hope for reunity!) in our schismed church.

[@KilluminatiCT44]

What a podcast-haven’t watched a podcast that was 3 hours in a long time. What a great conversation!

[@bygonerenewal6278]

This is such a beautiful conversation between two men trying their best to live a life of righteousness. Thanks to you both and may God bless you.

[@AbrahamFramirez-hr5zu]

Συγχαρητήρια Greetings from Corinth 🇬🇷☦️

[@1bonatsos]

Χαίρετε η μάνα μου κορινθία. Καλή χρονιά από το καναδά🇨🇦☦️

[@LevDavidovichCampos]

🇷🇺☦️Then why are you happy with a western Gnostic pagan like Jonathan? You like it when he promotes the demonic worldly farytales & impose that trash on Scriptures?

[@LevDavidovichCampos]

​@@1bonatsosYou like it when the fake "orthodox" Pegeau imposes the pagan farytales on our faith?

[@RussianLionboy]

🇷🇺☦️Have you no shame cheering for a Gnostic pagan who spews heresy?

[@HandsomeMonkey-King]

As an Orthodox myself (who is a Pageau fan) I've got to correct him on the "Old Calendarist" thing. There is a difference between churches using the Old Calendar and the "Old Calendarist" movement. Old Calendarist are a schismatic group that split away because they made an idol out of tradition. You can maybe think of them as the Orthodox version of Sedevacantists. The names get confusing. I myself prefer the Old Calendar but I'm not an "Old Calendarist" in the sense of being that schismatic group.

[@BarbaPamino]

@烏梨師斂 I think Pageau is under rocor. Which would put him in the old calender. I'd imagine he would've known that.

[@TheHolyOnes33]

Irony

[@Mike-tz4cm]

​@@BarbaPaminoHe said in the video he attends an OCA parish

[@BarbaPamino]

@Mike-tz4cm yeah. I thought I remembered him saying years ago he had been in rocor. Either way, a fair portion of the jurisdictions still use the old calender. I can't fathom he didn't know that.

[@stephencotter538]

Wow, I just started listening. Anyway, I found your comment very interesting and I have never heard of the old calendarists or anything relevant to the topic. Thank you! Gives me something to read about today. 👍😇

[@jordansauer1678]

Jordan peterson is THE reason I’m a Christian today. If he needs more time than I do it’s probably because he’s 10x smarter than me. He’s also the person who introduced me to Mr. Pageau who then introduced me to orthodoxy. Then I saw an Orthodox Church and I had to pay a visit. First time in a church not for a funeral or wedding in 20+ years. Now I just need to work out my overnight work schedule so I can get back there every Sunday without staying up all night.

[@alexlight4178]

JP also helped me become Orthodox

[@greyforge27]

Jonathan Pageau is the only one who still gives me pause in my ongoing process towards becoming a Catholic (from the starting point of being non-religious). It seems like he may be on to something extremely important that I don't want to miss out on

[@EOShorts]

I learned that cemeteries bury the dead facing East, specifically because of the resurrection, when they rise they’ll be facing eastward. I hope that’s true, I learned that when I buried my mother, memory eternal 🕯

[@Que.Miras_Bobo-d2j]

@@EOShorts yes it is true. All the graves aligned east to west and it is mandatory that the deceased are facing east

[@benry007]

I wonder what the current teaching is on those that have been cremated or who's bodies were destroyed? The bodies of many early Christians will be dust by now. Personally I think the state of your body doesn't matter and God will be easily able to ressurect anyone he wants.

[@hooklineandsphincter1467]

This is definitely one of my favorite PWA episodes ever. My goodness, just absolutely incredible. Thank you!

[@ItsWithakayLee]

Peterson on his phone in liturgy 😂 that was gold

[@benry007]

The irony of him talking about orienting to the divine while ignoring the divine and orienting to his phone. I think Jordan struggles with sitting still and not overanalyzing everything

[@troothseeka4116]

Jonathan and Matt has to be the best podcast combo ever. My two favorite KZbinrs.

[@FoodFreedomUSA]

17:02 I’m 44, the first time I used a computer was at 19, in college. I got my first smartphone in 2006 and my first iPhone in 2010. My mom typed my papers on a typewriter for me in middle and high school. My kids are being raised without “technology” at all. Farm life, real work, writing and reading. Life is so calm and natural for them!!

[@emidior7948]

Jonathan really flies high when talking about stories.He explains them so concisely and in a readily accessible manner.Go JP.

[@reeferfranklin]

The Chasuble is called the Phelonion in Greek...for anyone curious.

[@LHWakefield]

I became Catholic largely due to Jonathan’s influence. Thank you for having him on!

[@ExerciseForLifePls]

Interesting, why Catholicism than John’s Orthodoxy then?

[@LHWakefield]

@@ExerciseForLifePls There is a lot to it, but probably the biggest reason came down to Pageau's descriptions of head and body as fractal realities. A functioning body has those two elements: head and body. Obviously Christ is head of every part of his body, but the Catholic Church is the only functioning body that also has a visible head at every epistemic and ontological level. Assuming you're familiar at all with Paguea's work, that's probably as short an answer as I could give.

[@aident.4165]

@@LHWakefield I think you are forgetting that Christ is physically present in the Church, and that Bishops represent Christ, and at the top of that ladder is patriarchs. The pope is just one Bishop, in the early church the Bishop of rome didnt have universal jurisdiction. Each patriarch was that representation of the one head which is Christ.

[@LHWakefield]

@@aident.4165 no, I am very aware of His presence!

[@LHWakefield]

@@aident.4165 no, I’m very aware of His real presence!

[@randomjake1488]

As an Orthodox convert from Catholicism, I’m very happy you had Jonathan on the show! ☦️

[@RussianLionboy]

@@randomjake1488 Sorry to break it to you but you are a convert to Gnostic Postmodernist new-age paganism not to Orthodoxy. Repent.

[@AndyReichert0]

HELL YEAH!!! dude, I have never seen Jonathan ever once get worked up and emotional about anything EVER, so when he finally got passionate about the bodily resurrection, that was amazing. like JP, you never know if this guy really believes anything actually happened or not, so that was awesome to see him do. Thank you for this video.

[@jm0005-mm]

The guest that I want to see but didn't expect to happen!!! Awesome collab!!!

[@colinbower1115]

Orthodox priest here offering a clarification. "Old Calendarist" is a term used to describe schismatic groups that broke off from local Orthodox Churches that adopted the new calendar (essentially this is the Gregorian calendar that retains the Julian calculation of Pascha) in the early 20th century. Not all Orthodox Patriarchates adopted the new calendar, and those who remained on the Julian Calendar do not identify with or call themselves Old Calendarist, as this is a schismatic movement within other Orthodox Patriarchates not associated with them. This is a common misunderstanding for those who haven't looked closely in this issue. Old Calendarists aren't in communion with Orthodox Patriarchates who are still on the Julian Calendar (Russia, Serbia, Jerusalem, and others).

[@theotokos84]

Amazing conversation gentlemen! It’s such a pleasure to listen to you two. Matt: anytime you have someone on to discuss fairytales it is AWESOME! Your interview with Nicholas Kotar was phenomenal in this way as well. I’ve always loved fairytales but was raised Protestant fundamentalist so I was never really allowed to read them. The most I was allowed was The Chronicles of Narnia, only because I wrote a paper defending it and pointing out to my mom that it was an obvious Christian allegory lol. Rediscovering them as an adult and hearing a deeper analysis of them has been a beautiful experience ❤

[@MrWeebable]

15:43 that such an interesting little remark: "you know as a protestant you have to find a conversion moment"

[@ejbrucal8304]

Good conversation. I love the part when they talked about the most significant argument for atheists. Then the discussion led to the role of sufferings in our life. Then, the discussion went to “carrying the cross to follow Christ.” Excellent.

[@benclark1482]

I think Jonathan is a very profound thinker, but I enjoyed this conversation because it seemed to be more about just Jonathan as a guy.

[@stephencotter538]

I like Pageau's artwork. I stumbled upon him a few years ago, i think i was looking up iconography or something. Yhen he started appearing with Jordan Peterson a ton, now he's on Pints. I just started the interview and I like how he didnt know answers to several questions and he responded humbly and confidently. I know he's super smart, but its always refreshing to see these rockstars are regular people like you and me.

[@DennisChaves]

Jonathan's explanation on interpretation of miracles stories is the best I've heard yet.

[@sarahburke8955]

This is the best Pageau interview I've ever heard, thank you fellas!

[@martinjoseferreyra1961]

Thank you Matt, great interview! Greetings from Argentina

[@m3o4u0n0t]

Wonderful interview! Brings back all the wonder I felt reading Jung, Campbell, Eliade. I’d love to see Pageau, Iain McGilchrist and Bishop Barron on the same stage!

[@jawokenn8766]

There is nothing in the world like Orthodoxy

[@jawokenn8766]

it is not of this world

[@psalm_11]

​@@jawokenn8766 😮 whoa

[@alexlight4178]

Amen to that

[@johnalexis8284]

@@jawokenn8766 are you born again?

[@TheFeralcatz]

Wonderful seeing this, from an Orthodox viewer.

[@daniebeth]

I actually didn’t find him through Peterson. I was YouTubing literally “ why I became Orthodox “ and found a short video of him. In my searching on Orthodoxy he kept coming up and then found out he traveled with Peterson and that was just a cherry on top.

[@JMisSC08]

Man, I don’t watch all the episodes, but this has possibly been my favorite. Pageau makes these stories so beautiful and fascinating.

[@pammac9899]

Thank you for this conversation! I have listened to Jonathon on the Exodus, Gospel, etc. series, but I didn't always understand his explanations. This was so helpful!

[@ocdchristian]

31:34 No no no! The Old Calendarists are not the same as the Orthodox that follow the Julian calendar! The Old Calendarists are a sect of the Greek Orthodox that broke with the church to follow the Julian calendar...

[@jonboatwright7777]

This was a beautiful and thought provoking conversation. Thank you guys. God bless.

[@shanedilanchian4668]

Great conversation between two great men! Thank you to both of you!

[@j2muw667]

Love fairy tales in their original form! So good to hear the interpretations of them as an adult! Going to have to find his books! Hadn’t heard of him before this interview!

[@joycethevoice-joycefarrell9043]

Love the interview. The last few minutes about Canadian politics. Trudeau just resigned! 🎉💯🔥

[@randomjake1488]

As a convert to Orthodoxy ☦️, the faith has been such a light in my life and brought me closer to Christ. As a former Catholic working in the church, I felt no where near as close as I do now. The liturgy, mysticism, and emphasis on prayer has changed my life.

[@syntheticsleep]

This was an amazing conversation. Loved every bit of it.

[@EmileMocachen]

2025 opening up with a banger!

[@tashatash3626]

I enjoy the time i get to dive into anything Jonathan is saying. Such a relax and educational conversation

[@LuIsSaNcHeZ510]

My God, this was enjoyable. Thanks guys.

[@AndyReichert0]

I wish the section breaks each got their own video. these are such awesome discussions.

[@GioLeoLopez]

You have no clue how long I’ve been waiting for this to happen

[@JoeyG-o8r]

Amazing episode, thanks fellas, God bless.

[@MelissaGilmerSalamanca]

Yesss!!! Can’t wait!

[@sizesmall1756]

You two are such nice guys. Such a nice hangout.

[@OrthodoxFamilyLife]

"Rigor is applied to ourselves." Exactly.

[@MsChitterchat]

Female here who has turned from atheism to Catholicism.

[@yvonneleblanc4492]

Really enjoyed listening to Jonathan Pageau. Excellent podcast.

[@RedFlowas]

It’s funny, I just started binging Jonathan Pageau vids the last week, now this. Interesting timing..

[@lauragiles4245]

Loved the many insights I cleaned from this fabulous conversation

[@outoforbit00]

Well lets face it, what Christian Church would accept someone who said they are not a sinner. Cardinal Nichols of England, some years ago said that because of the scandals in the Church, some who had left years earlier returned citing that their apostasy was surely a part of the problem. They hadn't forgotten they were a member of the mystical body of Christ. Btw I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thanks to both of you.

[@dozerbwt]

My favorite Catholic and Orthodox Christians in the same podcast!

[@aaronrohrke9019]

3 hours of Jonathan Pageau and Matt Fradd? Hell yes!!

[@michelechandler9630]

So so so good! Thanks for this conversation

[@katherinewagner6023]

Harsh and 19th century - I agree with your take on FSSP. I went there several years and also a bit of time in SSPX when I returned to the church in 2017 only to finally come to that conclusion. The 19th century art especially started to feel so cloyingly sentimental it shutdown my sense of wonder. I progressively kept having the CS Lewis book -"Till We Have Faces" come to mind. Until we have faces, until we have faces I kept thinking. Always popping in mind. I'm looking forward to Annie Crawfords lectures on that book that starts this coming Friday.

[@peppy619]

I'm so glad you two are meeting again. I have the feeling that the first time didn't go very well, the second time was far better, let's see how this one goes. Happy new year!

[@MarcAupiais]

Two of my favourite people having a wise discussion. More of this, please.

[@RodrigoMera]

Lmao, this was funny. God bless Jonathan Pageau. I've learned a lot from this man.

[@gc3563]

Wonderful interview 👏🏻👏🏻

[@janetbolden597]

Holy hell, I never noticed that in the story of Jacob. He gets birthrite from his brother, his gets a blessing from his father, then he gets a blessing from the angel. It's such a clear progression, but I missed it amongst the details of the story.

[@ocdchristian]

Love you guys both! But having lived in Russia, Israel and Jordan, I can say that just "soaking in the culture" 9:37 does not translate to a well catechized "flock." They 100% need catechism or Sunday school and all the rest.

[@Athmoneus]

Extremely difficult to enjoy this conversation when Matt interrupts all the time, especially when Jonathan is just in the middle of saying something interesting. Matt! Stoooooop!

[@Swordbringer]

2:12:44-2:20:00 is super vital, I feel, for a lot of skeptics and even doubtful believers who are wrestling with the all encompassing reality of Gods sacramental nature of the faith, and how he operates through the church in the material world. You can’t come to an acceptance of the reality of the Eucharist, if you don’t have eyes to see what’s literally in the story of the gospels. It’s so profound and even I can’t say I truly grasp its nature.

[@brodmitkase]

I like these guys a lot. Thanks guys.

[@Surface_level]

Would really like to hear someone talk to pageau about apokatastasis. Especially considering his interest in maximus the confessor, who believed in apokatastasis.

[@lucashardy4481]

Yes, this needs to be discussed seriously.

[@oza1302]

I’ve heard a bit on how suffering may be the atheist’s best argument. I strongly feel it is one of the best refutations against atheism. Jonathan and Matt lay it out so well @ about 1:28:24. Well done!

[@davidaladro6898]

Great to have Jonathan!!

[@aleksandrablaszczyk5971]

Polish fairy tales are amazing!! Long live Baba Jaga. 😂truly an awesome interview. Thank you both. ❤️🙏

[@m.end777]

Please pray for the Church in Quebec ⚜

[@heatheradamson1364]

Best episode ever!

[@user-ratatat]

An excellent conversation.

[@OliviaLondon1980]

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[@jeremias-serus]

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[@both-and]

Amazing conversation

[@tashatash3626]

Thank you Matt

[@MarquesGoetsch]

I love Jonathan Pageau! He has the saintly spirit that they were talking about around 27:00.

[@BigJamesGraham]

He's a special guy for sure.

[@bradleyperry1735]

Just a note. All Orthodox Christians celebrate Pascha on the same date, except in Finland.

[@ibelieve3111]

Thanks

[@ljordan1714]

Jonathan with no filter - LOVE it

[@Rome_77]

On the RC vs EO thing: One thing that people always overlook when doing the “side by side” comparison is the great disparity in terms of size. Not only that but they ignore the difference in success, structure, and position geographically in the world. Anyone can admit EO has some curb appeal. But comparing the curb appeal of RC vs EO is unfair. Not apples to apples. RC is >5x the size of EO. 1.3 billion RC compared 260 million EO. In the U.S. we have ~70million RC compared to ~7 hundred thousand EO. The Greek Orthodox in America is the biggest EO church at 400 thousand. Americanized mainstream Catholicism in the U.S. is so much larger than the immigrant diasporic EO churches we have here. Naturally, you would expect to find a more serious, intimate, and otherworldly experience in a foreign community from “trad cultures” containing a highly-committed self-selected educated class of converts. This is like comparing a Trad TLM community with mainstream novus ordo Catholicism. The little EO churches are not burdened by our kind of failures because they have not been victims of our kind of success. They have not been in direct dialogue/confrontation with Protestantism/Secularism and they are not as widespread around the world. All these reasons are why the centralized Catholic Church decided on liturgical “reform”. EO has not suffered from modernizing “reform” because it is still underground and off the grid. It never felt the pressure to, AND it isn’t set up to execute reform on such a level due to its differences in structure (decentralized). A blessing in our age but definitely not something that proves it’s the “true church”.

[@marklefebvre5758]

Great talk, really appreciated it. People want the great war, or any kind of acceleration for one of a few reasons, either, they want the end, because they think it will end suffering, they want the end for clarity, so the will know what to do, or they want the end if they cannot have what they want. Lots of people would rather have no world, than give up the world inside their heads, their fantasy. Occasionally some people would rather the world burn than anyone have things they don't have. Equality doctrine indeed.