OSCAR DE LA HOYA: Ryan Garcia, Future of Boxing, Legacy || Pound 4 Pound Kamaru Usman Henry Cejudo

Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo sit down with Oscar De La Hoya to meet the man behind the legend. On the agenda: magic mushrooms and forgiveness, Ryan Garcia, Dana White, the state of modern day boxing, sex symbolism, childhood trauma, and lessons from fatherhood. And will someone tell Henry he's pretty.
0:00 - Intro
3:30 - Making Sense of Early Life
13:30 - No Handbooks for Fatherhood
16:00 - Behind the Gold Medal
20:30 - Mushrooms and Forgiveness
26:15 - Finding Success, Purpose, and Identity
37:15 - Dana White
41:30 - Álvarez, Benavides & Passing of the Torch
48:00 - Breaking Down Crawford vs. Mayweather
50:40 - Ryan Garcia
55:25 - Sex Symbols, A Curse?
1:00:00 - More Reflections; Fatherhood and Life
1:08:30 - Debrief with Kamaru & Henry
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[@none_the_less]

What makes this podcast good is the fact that Usman and Cejudo often have different view points but they manage to keep the conversation interesting. Both know their stuff, both have touched gold. What a gem.

[@MrMIDWEST323213]

Yes but sometimes Henry strays away from topic or asks an irrelevant question not related to the conversation or he wants to one up the guest. This show would be better with someone else besides Henry. I’m surprised how well kamaru handles this podcast 🎉

[@El.broder]

​​@@MrMIDWEST323213 you tryna get dropped or what ma boy

[@MrMIDWEST323213]

@@El.broder lol naw I take it back just finished the cast and my boy Ccc is improving for the best.

[@none_the_less]

@@MrMIDWEST323213 👏👏👏 Thanks for coming back with your updated view on Cejudo. What made me comment is the fact that I see Cejudo really taking this very seriously and putting his gimmick to the side. Both are very accomplished, so as they say, iron sharpens iron.

[@kasrasaddad925]

Not just touched gold but.. Henry a double champ + olympic medalist, and when hes not cringe hes chill in general. Usman the former p4p (covid and his activity definitely helped with that status) but regardless I think Usman had a 15 fight winstreak or smth, only 2nd to Anderson. We got two pretty dope co-hosts

[@dashworldwide]

One of the best oscar interviews ive heard

[@beaualoevv]

15 years old & casual

[@stopbullshitin]

Oscar does good interviews wherever he can have a common deep rooted hate towards canelo

[@aramguerrero1093]

You havent seen “Un Round Mas” podcast with Erik Morales.

[@benk6391]

Usman is a natural at this

[@beaualoevv]

3 fight losing skid😂 bozo needs to retire that’s why he’s a podcaster same with coconut cedoodoo

[@beaualoevv]

‘headshot dead’

[@benk6391]

@@beaualoevv you’re irrelevant, nobody cares that you exist

[@TVGiooo]

@@beaualoevvhating for no reason

[@fbi2795]

​@@beaualoevvyour cool

[@carloscastro355]

This podcast is shaping up to be the best listen to in the mma community

[@beaualoevv]

yeah they can’t show it the octagon , that’s why the became podcasters

[@Matis92]

@@beaualoevvget well soon

[@ErnestoMike]

lol​@@Matis92

[@bennybackwoodz]

@@beaualoevvwhat r u on Henry’s pfp one the greatest

[@Brantendo64]

They have surprisingly great chemistry

[@DavidRobledo22]

Idc what anyone says about Oscar, he seems like a stand up guy. Love the authenticity in this interview. We all face those internal struggles sometimes. Keep fighting. Blessings and love 🙏

[@naterichardson8169]

This generation has no idea how absolutely fucking badass this dude was.

[@hassanrao3576]

Oscar is a LEGEND of the sport. His fights against Quartey, Vargas, Mayorga, Whitaker etc. are iconic.

[@Fatfithealth]

Henry is so good, also Kamaru. So rare to have this caliber of ppl to do a podcast. This is truly caviar for us.

[@elizabetho6506]

Podcasts are kicking espns ass. Does anybody even watch tv anymore?

[@LitPenguin713]

Been like that the past 5+ years lol

[@o.j7408]

Lol. So true

[@ReNeDesCartes782]

What's espn ?

[@cobracommander9138]

It’s mostly us men watching podcasts 🤷‍♂️

[@mxlv92]

That’s why Tucker Carlson is hanging with the podcasters lol

[@Dwitwitty]

Kamaru and Triple C's podcast is lit

[@beaualoevv]

they became podcasters after all the back to back losses 😂

[@FactsandReelsForall]

​@@beaualoevvwhy tf u hating they're both legends in MMA

[@MMAUniversityTime]

Kumaru gave Oscar a great intro, you can tell Oscar actually appreciated and didn't just say he did.

[@illest6267]

Best Oscar De la Hoya interview in my opinion, great job guys!

[@t1nma5k22]

Kumaru is no doubt a natural at this & the Break Out STaR!

[@Cud1Zon3]

if you watch the first episode he sounds awkward he definitely needed to warm up, now he's got it down like a champ

[@darrenblackwood2616]

Kamaru is good BUT Henry is the one that comes in with the hard, direct questions. Kamaru is very thoughtful in his response's. You can't have one without the other. That's why they work so well together. Brilliant interview. Oscar was being very open and heartfelt! This is turning into the best MMA podcast out there!

[@whydopeoplealwayssayuhm]

@@Cud1Zon3what? Does he sound awkward when he sits at the ESPN table discussing UFC fights? He's been seemingly comfortable for a while now with this media thing.

[@cozy9918]

This Henry and Usman dynamic is really good. I actually look forward to this podcast.

[@joey_ricciardi117]

You know why? Aside from being fighters, they're two intelligent mfs.

[@antonioph861]

Loved the pod, awesome conversation. A little bit of everything. 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@OzzzyKane]

Damn this was such a great conversation, Henry and Kumaru are letting each other speak. The conversation was light hearted but also very deep with great questions

[@CaseyJacksonVille]

Not gonna lie This is my favourite episode for this podcast. Now I view Oscar De La Hoya from a different lens. And I will be back and looking forward to see Dana and him debating.

[@o.j7408]

New respect for oscar. Must have been tough being so real about this

[@gregrios6044]

Usman is a gem lowkey. Ok I'll watch the documentary

[@raztek13]

Fantastic documentary One of the best I've seen Must watch for any fight fan, or just people in general 🔥🔥🔥

[@gregrios6044]

@@raztek13 yea it was great. Took me back to those times

[@rickbruintjes2393]

Best mma podcast for sure 👌 Keep going strong 💪

[@DamianAlvarado13]

🔥 thanks for sharing. Was supposed to get back to work but caught up listening to the whole video. Crazy 🤪

[@wesleymorris5671]

This was so refreshing seeing Oscar be able to relax and open up! Way to go, Cejudo and Usman!!

[@robertflores9515]

3 legends within feet of each other.

[@dma917]

really great episode. love all the points they hit on and the overall tone of what they're talking about. not all the typical fight pod stuff

[@hillboy1611]

Think this is the best episode of the podcast so far, really special!

[@ChristianHart-ne7fk]

This was a great podcast. Respect to all 3.

[@toothbudz2896]

Set up the Dana/Oscar pod boys!! It’ll be legendary

[@beastboiiskates]

Wow this was a good episode Oscar is the goat 🐐

[@DiegoRamirez-qy3xu]

Kamaru is so good at this, I love his insight and humor. Keep it up boys 🔥

[@Toddpicogram-aka-Satan]

Deen Snoozeman should fight Marvin Vettori

[@adanbanuelos1266]

Super cool convo. Thanks for sharing the emotion and the passion about fighting and life in general.

[@ronpino6336]

From a former USMC Olympic caliber athlete to Pound 4 Pound...you both work well together and bring out the best in your guests. Killing it!

[@beaualoevv]

both 3 fight skid. retirement incoming

[@eliasoliva6418]

@@beaualoevvwhat are you on about ? 💀

[@32hernandez93]

Great job Kamaru 👏

[@m3nace1023]

Great interview, guys! Y'all are well on your way!

[@milesb2111]

love this

[@mishaguitar]

you guys are great, keep up the good work

[@flightplanstan144]

Kamaru always so insightful. Love having this podcast for him💯

[@wholesomet3930]

Amazing podcast🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@alexandergarza921]

Great pod, respect all 3 of these men

[@Spectonimous]

Usman told so many spooky stories with that voice during this episode lol. On a serious note, this was a great episode. This and the Jaxxon Podcast are my favorite MMA podcasts now

[@TheLeeks24]

Great sit down

[@Alexander808.]

ANOTHER FIRE PODCAST

[@paulacevedo6430]

I LOVE YOUR PODCAST!!! always looking forward to the next episode. Need to change NOTHING. Killing it as usual champs! 💪💪💪 love all your fights too! a big fan of both of you from Peru… yeh random 😂

[@Alexander808.]

The only podcast I’ll sit all the way through every time 🔥🔥

[@BabyPanda74247]

One of the new Podcasts that’s shaping to be one of the best around. Kamaru is a natural at this. Guys, please never downgrade on the caliber of guests you guys bring inn to interview. I love this interview and others resonates with me as a father and so forth…keep up the amazing job fellas.

[@CombatSportsInsider]

After notes of the interview was incredible. Hope you guys interview more people from other sports.

[@Hildelano73]

Excellent podcast, I have to say.

[@waltertupou]

Questions were on point, you guys really gave us viewers great insight on Oscar. No talking over, no obnoxious behavior for more views. You two are great at this for real.

[@trkddy]

GREAT POD !! ❤❤

[@865style]

Amazing show. This is great insight into de la hoya's life and why he made certain choices. Usman is a great human being. Its impossible to not like him. Henry on the other hand can be unlikable because he will say things that push the boundaries. One could even say he's a troll lol. But the both of them together is a perfect combo. This podcast is definitely going to be insanely huge.

[@Jc-si6pj]

Good interview guys ! Respect to Oscar ! I didn’t know what was going on

[@lamarsampolia2852]

So much positive energy in the comments, love it. Great show guys.

[@theBoxingfan1]

This podcast is good man

[@PrincevincentiusEL]

I learned a lot today 😮

[@user-bi2kz9jb6c]

Henry is so fuckin good at this he was made for this and usman keeps growing

[@RyanLago1994]

wow lowkey a fire conversation only 25 min in

[@AbdullahYA-]

Indeed

[@tayloadedtrucking157]

Great podcast tbh 👌🏽👌🏽

[@jonathanmccane]

Not the podcast I was expecting, but bravo 👏🏻

[@El-gordo_]

One of the best interviews yet 🔥Oscar is a LEGEND 🔥 Usman killed it

[@PrinceTheBoss]

Big fan of these two 💎. Kamaru is another level and Henry is top a notch. I really hope a growth in this channel and hope all of can share this to further.

[@gerardschaefer6495]

Best episode so far. Hope Dana does this together but would be surprised. Great job fellas.

[@jonvon2044]

You guys are doing great. What a stellar interview with the Golden Boy!

[@lmar1965]

Incredible the level of communication of Kamaru, he is a natural. It wouldn't surpriseme if he becomes as big in the commentary world as he was in fighting.💥

[@Alexander808.]

THE BOYS ARE BACK ‼️🗣️

[@jaymoar3561]

Henry and Kamaru are good at interviews because of their different opinions. Loving the podcasts and guest boys!

[@J77CR]

This interview was great. This is a room of champions with no egos, This sets the bar high. It made me smile and laugh early morning and will now watch Oscar's documentary. Great show guys

[@daeffinguy8108]

I really enjoy this podcast. Henry comes from the point of a single mom upbringing and Kamaru comes from a place where his father was a huge influence. Kamaru knows how to listen and share insight, Henry comes from a place where he’s always had to prove himself. Both perspectives create this magic. Can’t wait for the next one.

[@spidey677]

Between this and Jaxxon Podcast these are the 2 best pods for the fight fans. I can watch this all day

[@YDreams93]

This one was good

[@antz19coyote73]

Great Interview, like Oscar.

[@curthley1]

Must command Usman for acknowledging Oscar de la hoya on his legacy ! Usman did such a good job by setting the stage! 👏

[@MarkoTiano]

3 cool dudes! All 3 of them magnificent fighters. And yes Oscar is a boxing legend and Kamaru is killing it at this podcasting and ofcourse Henry is Henry.

[@matkomilic8382]

Great podcast..

[@AdroitTom]

Great podcast. Fudge.

[@cameronscott6044]

This has become my new favorite pod. Usman is killing it in his role. Henry says some stupid stuff but it works cuz Usman calls him on it. Keep it up fellas!

[@Pootie_Tang]

Oh my god, I was not ready to hear this... f-ing tears...

[@N.O195]

Man what a great interview 😄😄😄 for sure everyone story should be looked at before judging them by their cover…

[@ConcernedCitizen0]

Damn triple C and Kamaru are definitely gonna be some podcast legends down the line. Great work guys!

[@Polar-pencil]

i fooking luv Kamaru

[@WarriorSeeker7]

Yeah this is one of the best oscar interviews. Kudos to triple C and Usman 👏🏽

[@talesfromthetrailz]

Love this episode fellas. Fkn Oscar is funny AF!

[@judoka_125]

LEGENDS!! Champions forever!! Martial arts rules 🫡

[@DH-vy8hw]

This combo just works!

[@donnadonna124]

Can’t believe I watch the whole show it’s fantastic

[@johancruijff335]

Great interview❤️🦾

[@andrewsantillan6020]

I like the reflection at the end of just you two.

[@Ryomniz]

Bro Kamaru's personality really showing during those podcasts, bros really funny and genuine

[@Toddpicogram-aka-Satan]

can u aks de ufc 2 book a few fights between strongmen @ open weight?😊

[@alcapo3696]

Kamaru well done… bring people together like Dana with Oskar that will best what can you get love your work killing it 👏🏻🤙🏽

[@jds8manu]

Kamaru usmans a smart business man! Wouldnt suprise me if your lining up some boxing fights for you in the near future! Very smart 😎😎

[@moisesgalaz9390]

One of the greatest of all time, never ducked anyone. Took his Ls in the ring and out the ring like a man.

[@Juiced4444]

Great podcast host duo haha

[@gstarmma]

good dynamic between these 2

[@acatnamedscamper3307]

This is giving jaxxon podcast a run for its money. I’m just glad I get to watch both!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@beaualoevv]

washed up ufc journeymen lol , usman, cejudo, rampage all washed up losing streak

[@Isaac-ro1jl]

@@beaualoevv 🤡

[@acatnamedscamper3307]

@@beaualoevv tf? Has nothing to do with the interviews lol. I mean “ok” 👀

[@jpl1393]

Ain't no journeyman in the ppl you called

[@calimolotov2000]

This episode has opened my eyes to how my middle son gets the short end of the stick in many ways. Thank you all for providing such a good discussion and wise words for me to be a better father.

[@enricogarcie]

Usman is a natural at interviewing.

[@Sumea_Saukko]

His mothers a legend. 👊

[@toothbudz2896]

Cejudo should get a legit replica of his Olympic gold medal and ice it out

[@anthonykhiran3948]

I must confess kamaru you are a really good interviewer and a psychologist hats off to you guys. 9JA NO DEY CARRY LAST!!!

[@mjn92]

This Pod DESERVES more subscribers… yall need to hop on Jre and promote this!

[@beaualoevv]

cringe kid

[@Bahir1]

Why people hate oscar de la hoya? Its a cool dude i like the guy. Tanks you usman and cejudo for this amazing podcast. ❤ peace and love✌🏽