Every minute was worth it! Not something I would call too long at all. Very much enjoyed this!
@ultravioletpisces36663 жыл бұрын
I love this style of video.
@saltyred91643 жыл бұрын
Lolol I agree!
@saltyred91643 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic
@bhavyapandey40538 ай бұрын
Hey...i went for a tarot reading n aaked for my life's purpose the card was of creator i.e.king of wands n flower queen of rainbows i.e.queen of pentacles....what does it mean.i was sugegested to follow my joy .i dont get it..can someone explain
@einnockate8 ай бұрын
Why say sorry for it being too long rather than just take your time and be thorough. People can listen as fast or slowly as they'd like. There is an option of stopping and starting at their convenience. I would rather have the details to replay as often as I need than get less info because some have a short attention span or passing curiosity rather than the passion the rest of us have. You can't please everyone so just do Yo thang!!
@anahering99934 жыл бұрын
Also, on the no-thingness, I opted for using the concept of tabula rasa since the Hierophant to me is the ultimate teacher. Accepting an openness to learning with no pre-concepts .
@Sjeel4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this deep dive. It is so unbelievably useful. I’ve had the Osho Zen for a while now, but could never gel with the book at all, despite loving (most of) the imagery on the cards. This has been really helpful to see the interpretations and how it compares to RWS. I’m hoping that working with this deck will now be less jarring ☺️ thanks again, Lisa!
@mynxdeluxe62512 жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@PersonaCorp3 жыл бұрын
Best walkthrough ever on Osho Zen Tarot, one of the best of the best of the classics.
@priyankachatterjee4552 жыл бұрын
I am a very new subscriber of you and a very new person to tarot. I have just started and after watching you and understanding keywords can help, I ordered this Osho Zen deck. Although I am not a pro or not even a great starter potential but I believe No-thingness is an alternative to "God or a messenger of God" which the hierophant is supposed to be. For Osho's teachings, it says No-thingness is the place where everything could be found. Its the ultimate awakening that one needs to trust in. Hierophant relates to set beliefs and ultimate teacher. So, one should have this as their set belief that you need to lose everything to learn what you're capable of. While traditions can teach you how you should be, no-thingness can also teach you how you can be. You can be everything and anything you want if you start with zero/undefined. For me when you have black, you'll crave colors the most. so you'll learn to bring colors using your own thoughts. That card is actually a teacher which asks you to go in any direction you want to. So powerful!
@jiva654 жыл бұрын
Nice overview of a Tarot classic! As for card #5, it may be that the author is highlighting what a Zen master tries to impart to his students: that there is an emptiness, devoid of name and form, which acts as a prelude to satori (enlightenment). This is the antithesis of what the Pope offers his acolytes, with all the trappings and teachings of the Catholic church. I believe this take on the card is consistent with Osho's teachings, resulting in a thorough deconstruction of the traditional Hierophant.
@maryleeloo11382 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I found your channel recently and got inspired to buy this deck today… then immediately started cutting on it right out of the box… couldn’t believe it, it felt so wrong to trim at first but they look so nice that way. And there’s no turning back now! I didn’t even know trimming decks was a thing until I saw some of your videos. I’m learning all kinds of things. Really glad you’re making this type of content. Thank you 😊
@gopalj1233 жыл бұрын
One of the best rendering on Osho Zen Tarot and it's relationship with Rider Waite cards. Many thanks
@Lovethisplace2 жыл бұрын
A couple of days ago I happened to stumble across this video. I could say I have no idea how it happened - which is true - but I know WHY it happened. 😃 As a matter of fact a while ago I had put the intention out to the Universe to show me a deck that was more spiritual. Most of my decks have that pagan or earthly energy and this was something I was missing. So I watched this video and was amazed right away. This was it! Such a lovely, spiritual energy and the cards are so beautiful! I ordered it right away. It arrived today and I am over the moon with it!! The messages it’s giving me go straight to my soul! Thanks for helping me find it! ❤️
@kajalpatel_14872 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained the osho zen n rider Waite together
@Tinasburrito6663 жыл бұрын
I love how you compare the Osho zen to the Ryder Waite. Great for me, a beginner!
@MysticButterfly93 жыл бұрын
I loved all of this video !! I have had the osho zen tarot since 2000 and I love it, but you definitely helped me to read them even better !! Thank you so much !
@kerripowell-holistic_lifecoach4 жыл бұрын
I love this deck sooooo much! I got it during lock down as a little reward for coping! And I was amazed at how deep and spiritual it was! I've really enjoyed this walk through! Thank you x
@designo-bh2dw3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I am learning tarot card and there was so much confusion running in my mind. But after I have watch your video I have got so much clarity.
@AgnieszkaKiermasz6 күн бұрын
Thank you, I've looked for this deck's review and finally found it! Very interesting and worth every minute!!!
@zhenya93023 жыл бұрын
I’ve run out of Anti-Hauls and This-or-That’s to watch. Thanks, KZbin, for recommending this video of one of my favorites! A few minutes in and you’ve already got me wanting to trim my copy! 😄
@zhenya93023 жыл бұрын
The Schizophrenia card is the reason I got this deck to begin with. It means split mind, and I believe the word existed far before the diagnosis.
@daveslacking3 жыл бұрын
Osho is the only deck I've ever used, and watching this video, I noticed not only the differences and likenesses, but also how the osho taro evolved from the old tarot, incorporating what the times require from its tarot, reminds me of the tarot in Dune Messiah
@essentiallytarot46904 жыл бұрын
I purchased this deck quite some time ago and for some reason was totally intimidated. This week, it finally called to me and boy does it just SING. I couldn’t have found this walk through at a better time. It just reaffirmed the whole experience I’m having with this deck right now. Timing is really everything.
@Lisa_Papez4 жыл бұрын
This deck is so full of depth and richness. It never lets me down.
@AL_THOMAS_7772 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa_Papez Sounds w o n d e r f u l and fits well since Oshos books also never ever will let anybody down . . .
@Tarotismagic Жыл бұрын
I think in 6 of swords the burden isn't the people but the swords themselves, our past experiences, negative thoughts etc. Great video, Osho Zen Tarot was my first tarot deck that I got and read without knowing ANYTHING about Tarot. Only years later I started studying Tarot in depth and realised I already own one deck and actually have been working with it without realising xD How funny!
@lesmomo3935 Жыл бұрын
I use this Osho deck as an oracle deck LOL. I love it.
@distortedaydream3 жыл бұрын
i appreciate this video so much! you have allowed me to create a deeper connection to my cards i knew were meant for me. 🤎
@tanqurei3 жыл бұрын
The Hierophant vs. No-thingness..... I have been reading with Rider Waite for 22 years (29 years reading with Marseille) and look forward to using this deck soon. That space between inhaling and exhaling is the connection between them. You have to be in that space for conformity. The Hierophant demands it. Thanks for sharing your understanding.
@instagamrr4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, just sitting down to watch this now. I am so excited
@rochelle1783 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome. I got a copy of this deck from Book Outlet a little while ago and haven't worked too much with it yet. This video is sooo informative, for this deck and for the RWS system too. So much knowledge and understanding on display here! I just have to remind myself how many years you've been doing this lol
@juliewood62706 ай бұрын
I’ve had the Osho Zen Tarot for quite a few years now, but just recently, the Universe has given me signs that I need to get this deck out and work with it. Excited to tune in and watch your video Lisa. I’m super curious with Osho Foundation now!!!
@juliewood62706 ай бұрын
Great video Lisa! I really enjoyed this deep dive so much!!!
@TT-3603 жыл бұрын
This week I bought both decks, so this side by side walkthrough was a great introduction, very useful and inspiring, thanks!
@Lovey-TheVolleyballPopper3 жыл бұрын
So much thank you for this video. I could’ve watched for the entire day and still wanted to hear more. I appreciate you!
@M.E.Gonda11114 ай бұрын
If this video was six hours long I would have still watched every minute! You are magnificent! I just bought this deck and was looking for just this very comparison. Thank you so much for making this video.❤
@thenaturalyogi59344 жыл бұрын
I used to have this deck but when I went on a purge of all of my items it went to the pile of things that were no longer serving me and it felt like heavy energy, but seeing this now makes me remember them fondly like a good friend and I hope it's serving whoever has them now well.
@aimeeheffernan302610 ай бұрын
Just finished watching the whole thing and really appreciated your wisdom with these cards. Thank you for doing this video. These have been my first cards too and I feel really connected to them and loved all you offered to enrich my experience with them. Thank you!
@welltemperedclair85842 жыл бұрын
I also love the “No-thingness” card. Probably my favorite card in this deck. In relation to the Heirophant? The only connection I can think of is seeing the Heirophant as the “Guru” and the detachment of earthly “things”
@rochelle1783 жыл бұрын
I'm always a bit confused when people say the artwork pops more without the border. I just don't get it... the artwork to me pops with or without a border. I can understand why folks don't like really distracting crazy borders (too much going on or garish colours), or when the borders make a deck bigger than it needs to be & therefore difficult to handle. But as always, to each their own!
@simdom2557 Жыл бұрын
amazing video! I was also always focusing on the shadow meaning of the 4 of cups, this positive meaning BLEW my mind!
@feistybutterflytarot3 жыл бұрын
I may have bought this deck because of your video and even commented before but I was thinking of getting a backup and thouroughly enjoyed this walkthrough. I appreciate the time you took it was great!!!
@lisakeane43864 жыл бұрын
I just recently found your channel and I love the depth that you provide. I say no more apologizing for “10 minutes in and I haven’t ..!” You have! The Osho Zen was my first deck as well- gifted to me in 2000 by a friend who,having learned on RW, just could not vibe with it in any way. I have only read for myself, and until recently, thr deck was my only deck. The messages I received through my deck over the past 20 years during the most significant moments of my life have been powerful. In the spirit of change, though, I am SO going to to trim mine down. And Lol- oh heck no could I throw my book away! For the reasons you mentioned on -the left side of the pages!
@exploringdimensions4all8533 жыл бұрын
Yes. I can see a connection between No-thingness and the Hierophant. I view the Hierophant as a person who has attained spiritual mastery. In Buddhism there is the concept of not getting caught up in desires: 'Thingness' to attain enlightenment.
@witchinthemirrortarot3 жыл бұрын
this is amazing, thanks !!!
@barbaraklein.plussize4 жыл бұрын
The first visualization, the first like and the first comment on a video, lol, that's a lot of firsts for me today! Hahaha... I've been waiting for so long for this video, wow... I bought this deck last month but I've been struggling to read with it since then... Thank you so much for this video, I think it's going to help me and others that struggle to understand this deck. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥰
@danac76154 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Lisa_Papez4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@loubray71162 жыл бұрын
Merci, merci. Comme toujours je me suis abreuvé de chacune de tes paroles. Tu vulgarises tellement facilement chacune des carte, c’est ce qui facilite ma compréhension. Tu es une excellente professeur. Merci de prendre de ton temps pour m’éclairer sur mon chemin de l’apprentissage.
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
Vous êtes les bienvenus! 🥰🥰
@loubray71162 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa_Papez I listen to a new one of your videos practically every night... a bit like a bedtime story.
@Harmonicsoul222 жыл бұрын
Wow Thank you 🙏🏼 so much for this very informative video. I understand my Osho cards much better now.
@lizzieh5284 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Im new to your channel. I bought the Osho azen deck a few years ago but havent worked with it that much. Youve reminded me how much I love ut abd am inspired to go back to it.
@BluesBrogio8 ай бұрын
I have this deck, but the more I understand the system of Tarot the more resistant I get to a lot of the choices they made for it, specially in the court cards
@furryfriendsfairydust55952 жыл бұрын
I never considered this deck because of the art. Half the cards are beautiful but the other half are odd to me. When you reviewed the guidebook in another video - I considered getting it. Decided to watch this video first. Half way through i stopped and put my 2 favorite decks in order so i could view this comparing it with decks i use most. I still think I’d love the guid book but not sure I’d reach for the cards. Maybe this video was enough. This was a really enlightening deep dive. Thank you!
@jo4444 жыл бұрын
Love your insights on the cards! I see the Osho Zen tarot as a deeper layer to the standard tarot Meanings.
@janetkenny91052 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I struggle with this deck having learned RWS. I’ll give it another go.
@miscaebeurer3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video. Well done!
@alysg.k.76322 жыл бұрын
It is useful, indeed. Very informative. Lisa, you shouldn’t worry that a video is long. I wish you could’ve given more comments about the cards by being slower and relaxed Great job! Thanks 🌹
@deerycraft60823 жыл бұрын
Love your table covering 💙
@EnduringMelancholia Жыл бұрын
Before you read the guidebook entry, what came to mind for me the with the No-Thingness card and The Hierophant was the idea of faith. The Hierophant provides conventional Earthly knowledge that one needs to follow in order to live a “spiritually sound” life (provided that one follows the rules) (I’m leaning super religiously into the Hierophant right now, though that’s not usually how I read his type of guidance). However, rarely is that knowledge a tangible thing. It’s no-thing. At that point, the supplicants have no choice others than to have faith that he’s steering them in the right direction. The supplicants legit have to wait until they die to figure out if he was right/telling the truth Faith is also no-thing.
@jyotikagupta59253 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great video. Amazing you covered soo much in such short time. Lots of love
@lizzieh5284 Жыл бұрын
I love the concept of Buddhist ideology with Tarot and find your interpretation of the cards so helpful and fascinating.
@learnclub52053 жыл бұрын
I loved this I made notes throughout my book! Can you do some Celtic Cross videos? Oh and you missed the Master card ;-)
@Lisa_Papez3 жыл бұрын
I don't own the Master card - discarded after purchase back in the 90's LOL. :) I've done a celtic cross video as part of a collaboration with Boho Tarot and you can view that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnjHpKyIodCrnqs
@luciev.78444 жыл бұрын
Thank you ~ Thank you Lisa for this video!!! I used to work in esoteric bookstore some time ago and this deck was literally in my face ALL the time and I didn’t get it. No connection whatsoever. Funny enough last year I picked it up on some clearance and love it since. Love your comparisons and explanations for example the Conditioning card. Also the Schizophrenia card totally agree with you about the name. What happened to the Master card?? Went through the video twice but not sure 🤔 if it got mentioned. Hmmm also was not aware of any controversy - have to check. Anyway very helpful and Thank you for taking the time making this! 🌟
@hollie5192 жыл бұрын
I love the look of this deck 🙏
@psychicadrian3 жыл бұрын
I’m app reciting this video so very much!!! I’m Rider-Waite quote familiar and live Oslo Zen, but this comparison really opened a hole new vision for me. I love your approach - if I may; I’d say regarding a possible point of view Hierophant rules more from “world” human logic, hierachy order etc vs No-thingness doing pretty much the same thing but from a spiritually enlightened perspective, continuation vs awakening, which in essence is kinda the same thing ❤️❤️❤️
@No-self_No-problem2 жыл бұрын
1:17:40 the 🐌 in the foreground 😊. Thanks for this video! Got a lot out of it👍
@learudzena47542 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this ❤️
@andrealoreto21823 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you help 😁 I just bought Osho zen tarot and you video helped me a lot to understand the meaning
@Clearsignalwellness2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best review of this deck I’ve come across so far, thank you! 🥰
@vmtoglia4 жыл бұрын
Stop apologizing for the length! :-) If people don't want to stick around, they can fast forward or not watch :-) I loved your side by side comparison with RWS. This deck has always peaked my interest so I appreciated this deep dive. I have the Tao Oracle and really enjoy that deck and its images (and the *feel* of the cards too!), and always wondered about this deck. So thank you for spending the time doing this Lisa! :-)
@CandySoulAndSoil4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a little of this but will revisit when it’s Christmas and I get to open this deck. I scored it second hand for £8 and when it arrived the parcel was sat on my doormat in my porch but another delivery driver threw a huge box of toilet paper I ordered on top of it and cracked the plastic box it comes in. When I informed the toilet paper company they refunded the entire box of toilet paper £40 as an apology!!!!! I was so blown away.... with the extra I brought the many queens Indie deck second hand off a fellow KZbinr, which is now also in my birthday/Christmas stash 🙌🙌🙌 I am so grateful you’ve made this video, it will be so helpful, this was one deck I really really wanted when I first started my tarot journey ❤️💜🧡💚
@mysoulfuel Жыл бұрын
I also received this as my first deck years ago; it's very beloved to me and I lost the book! So I've been using intuition for these cards for a while. I know you said you don't typically get upside down cards, but I'm wondering how you'd interpret them. I have my own way but I'm not sure it's totally applicable to all up side downers. Thanks so much for this. Preparing for my first big group reading and this is a gem :)
@Bront-ki2im4 ай бұрын
Thank you, very helpful, loved your thoughts. ☺️
@hollie5192 жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
@CandySoulAndSoil3 жыл бұрын
Ok so I brought this deck for myself a while ago second hand and put is aside for Christmas. This week I’ve been reading the book and then each suite or the majors after I’ve read and studied the cards I’ve watched the next bit of this video. It’s been quite the journey! I can’t thank you enough for this video. It’s helped solidify what I’ve read and studied also how much I ADORE this deck! The wands suite is the best wands suite I’ve seen ever!!!! I think if you are on a healing journey so many aspects of this deck and it’s push towards mindfulness and self ownership is deeply moving. Thank you Lisa❤️❤️ so happy to finally have met this deck and let it into my heart with your voice narrating the journey. Very very special 🌸💗🌸
@Lisa_Papez3 жыл бұрын
Aw I love that so so much!!
@CandySoulAndSoil3 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa_Papez honestly I’ve had so many profound journeys with you and We’ve never even met face to face. This is the power and love in your space ❤️❤️❤️
@cappyram62674 жыл бұрын
Queen of Pentacles is Queen of Earth, so I see the Osho's card more like a Mother earth card. It make sense to me.
@witchofthewildwoods3496 Жыл бұрын
This was the second deck I ever bought, many years ago, and I ended up gifting it to a niece on the spur of the moment which I immediately regretted. I bought another copy a few years later but never established the emotional/spiritual bond I felt to the first deck. Does that even make sense? I think it might have to do with finding out about it's connection to the Rajneesh movement after moving to Oregon. I haven't trimmed this one but did edge it in black, and I love the way it shuffles :) I know I'm visiting your videos long after the fact but I enjoy them so much!
@VintageMoon-2 жыл бұрын
Lisa I’ve been working with the Osho and I’m obsessed so I was like let me go watch someone talking about him…. And of course I went straight to you knowing this was the deck you learned on and you did not disappoint… loved your take vs RWS (My first deck) and it didn’t seem long at all ❤Loved every minute!!!
@fernandamccormack2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was very helpful to hear about your experience eith this deck! Xx
@TheFifileigh Жыл бұрын
i like the artwork too. they look surreal and fun...
@SoundSista2224 ай бұрын
This is fantastic ,very useful, thank you 💜
@jyotivyas92864 жыл бұрын
Osho is the One who introduced Tarot cards in outer world. .from the year 1990 ...or early.when nobody knows about tarot cards...when they were read secretly ..so Osho tought Tarot cards to the World...I really Appreciate him...🙏🏻👍🏼✌🏼😀🌸
@hexthepatriarchy35984 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and just subscribed. And I love your in-depth thoughts and that you share so freely your knowledge and experience. Please don’t apologize for the length of the video, I wouldn’t mind if was even longer because I find your thoughts so amazing to listen to! With love from Sweden.
@Lisa_Papez3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@lauralevylima33613 жыл бұрын
Just an opinion to the card V The hierophant - both ideals speak of the connection to the spiritual (is an existence that we cannot see with our eyes, its not tangible). Both ideals speak of the capability of create and impose rules and normas (one with rules allready stablished and the other creating new rules).
@judetayyeb46213 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this was so very helpful !! I did realize that the master card wasn't in there. it was definitely not too long. worth every second.
@phoenixrising47193 жыл бұрын
I found this beautiful deck in a flea market it's well loved and used before it came to me. I've been studying Tarot and wondered what card belonged to which suit. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and thoughts. I sat here for a couple of hours like a student taking and making notes in my book. Awesome stuff thanks again 🌺🙏🌺
@lucinda23294 жыл бұрын
The early Mythic and Osho Zen decks were my first decks...I've worn out the Mythic a few times :) My Osho still holds on...
@MysticSunchild4 жыл бұрын
I've been using the osho zen tarot a lot recently and am so excited to watch this!
@rowangreymantle Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this side by side comparison! I want this deck!😂
@feriallahmed835 Жыл бұрын
I love u so much, and i appreciate the time and effort u put in this video ❤
@kaede_jing3 жыл бұрын
Trimmed version is so good! This would be my rooted deck, it makes me feel like coming back home. By the way, pocket edition is coming up. Looking forward to it.
@summerbreeze19554 ай бұрын
Many cards are in sync with the classic Tarot, I think No 4 and 5 are really more like oracle and better used as an adjunct, and the traditional images and meanings kept
@truthinshadowdeed9254 жыл бұрын
Lisa Don't apologize for the length this was exactly what I needed. I bought this deck last year for spiritual and shadow work I LOVE the images. and keywords but for some reason couldn't get a total understanding so it sat on the shelf. After watching this I took it out did a simple reading for myself and WHOA!!! A powerful understanding and instant connection !!! Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!💜💜💜💜💜💜
@AlexanderQuinn12 жыл бұрын
Stunning video. Well done ! I could have watched longer explanations easily.
@estrellabruzualm Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! Loved it
@katherinenidiastrand64432 жыл бұрын
love from Brazil
@lauralevylima33613 жыл бұрын
An opinion of the VII Chariot card - Both decks speak of focus on the objective (one in a spiritual way and other in a more material way) with resilience.
@anandohum35512 жыл бұрын
Amazing! The only way this could be any better was if the video was timestamped to each card, but that's irrelevant, as this was very valuable to teach me about my decks and how to interpret them
@extramail20354 жыл бұрын
Super help... Thank you so so much for this video!!
@MsJRose11 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this I’ve had this deck and trying to connect with it but it’s been so hard cause I learned with Robin wood/RW
@treeshuysentruyt1354 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Just watched the whool vid with my pocket edition. So so helpfully. O do have to save up for the normal version because the book is so tiny in the pocket. Even with glasses on 😂. But eitherway. Thank you ❤
@RomanaVanLissum3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Lisa! Great video!
@cosmicsolutions90604 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Very useful review of the Osho deck and comparison with RWS.
@brianrhodes12283 жыл бұрын
This was one of the first decks I had as well, still use it
@anahering99934 жыл бұрын
AWESOME walkthrough !! Thank you for sharing 👍 💕 My favorite is by all means the Existence card which always brings back memories of Thumbelina's story 🙂
@ginaonthemic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. ❤
@dropofgoldentarot4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this side by side, I have debated this deck and heard such mixed messages about it. one has been about its creators and the other the differences with RWS. I love how you compare and contract the two decks and show you can apply the RWS to this deck and "see it" in the images. And I love your merry-go-round analogy.
@butterflymagicwithhottea92912 жыл бұрын
I loved this whole video. Well done!
@butterflymagicwithhottea9291 Жыл бұрын
I came back to watch it again. Will take some notes when I replay once more because I am doing an in-depth study. Thank you for posting, Lisa.
@snitadey10242 жыл бұрын
Thanks!❤❤❤💐💐💐
@tonylguapo4 жыл бұрын
I think, the meaning of No-thingness compared with the high prist is because as you read the book, It talks about that gap, that moment of no-thingness where you literlly look into the nothingness of your soul and wait to find something. Like waiting for instruction from somewhere, perhaps, the universe? The high prist is the one incharge of teaching us, there fore, giving us the instruction? The bridge between God and us.... Thanks for this review, I have been looking for another tarot other than the rider white, which is the one Im learning with, and I love the system...I've gone through many reviews of many different tarots, and I think, I will conect with the Osho Zen very well...thanks again and I hope it made sense my explanation of the cards...