WCW Final Nitro (March 26, 2001) - OSW Review #51

Part 3 of the X7 Saga with WCW Final Nitro!
Featuring the historic Simulcast, where Vince McMahon appears on WWF RAW and WCW Nitro at the same time!
Special Thanks to Tri.Moon for the incredible WCW Desire video
• WCW Desire - Lonely Ro...

[@Spamfish]

Going thru a tough period, and re-watching all the OSWs to get me thru. That WCW tribute tho. A masterpiece of editing.

[@Tasiturne]

I Hope it will be ok for you, don't forget brother : " Bad Times don't last but Bad Guy do! "

[@samuelwoods164]

Yeah me too.... really hard times and I've been rewatching a lot of episodes... it's been helping me get through them too.

[@SandywellProductions]

Stay strong mate, OSW helps all.

[@Segwo]

I hope times have gotten better for you! Or at the very least, the OSW vids are helping you get through

[@bttv1465]

OSW helped get me through the darkest times of my life. sometimes it felt like I might not make it. Like gets better my fellow nogger

[@SuperDevolution]

"Don't hate the player. Hate the game" Just wait a couple of years, Booker. Then everyone will hate The Game.

[@Vinitroy2016]

Don't worry kid the era gonna start again aew vs wwe

[@Vinitroy2016]

Everyone gotta love it back

[@notchinham316]

AEW has no big names.

[@notchinham316]

@V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate even TNA had better chances to compete

[@MichaelSmith-fq6hz]

I wonder if people arguing about AEW in these comments realize OP is clearly referring to HHH's reign of terror and not NXT or HHH's backstage roles?

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

That WCW Tribute, 10/10 Would watch again all day everyday anyday

[@donbrewer3904]

Very Very well done 👍👌

[@Christlockhart1]

Yeah I come back about every six months and rewatch just for this alone.

[@markwrenn5965]

I'm watching it for the first time right now and yes. All that

[@lonegear]

RIP Tri.moon, we miss you bud

[@rajveerkanojiya2985]

@@Christlockhart1 come back after 4 months

[@sephjnr]

1:02:07 - the absolute middle of classic wrestling's Venn diagram - The ECW owner at a WWF show on WCW TV. Once in several generations.

[@erisi236]

one of those things about Nitro that I miss is how many different venues they'd play in, Malls, beaches, having the ring in the middle of a pool, fun stuff

[@adammiller9366]

definitely

[@rajveerkanojiya2985]

WWE sucks

[@tonykennedy8592]

HHH doesn't drink. That's why he was allowed hang around with the Kliq initially. They needed a driver and someone sober to talk to the police if they are pulled over.

[@Allen7]

That WCW montage at the end was perfection.

[@razwanakram4446]

Very true indeed such respect was giving to WCW in the montage very well crafted toghether Brought tears to my eyes 😢😢😢😢😢 Loads of great memories as a kid watching this them days will be missed

[@michaelkeller5927]

RIP tri.moon, what a genius compilation. That Hogan leg drop transition is so smooth

[@robgbaby]

It was, but I would've died if they snuck in David Arquette at the end.

[@gadget00]

amazing tribute at the end; truly deserved for WCW

[@timbartschwolfman]

gadget00 yep

[@killdeer]

RIP TriMoon. I'm sad you had to leave us but I hope you're at peace.

[@Thebossstage1]

He died?

[@killdeer]

@@Thebossstage1 Yeah he did.

[@Thebossstage1]

@@killdeer Proof?

[@OSW]

Special Thanks to Tri.Moon for making that incredible WCW Desire video for us! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZawaJpooZ1reKc

[@LordBarros]

+OSW Review HD That really should have been the end of the Final Nitro. It was amazing, had me glued to the screen in total silence just marveling.

[@obnysalt]

+OSW Review HD That was beautiful.

[@mattmcgee645]

+OSW Review HD So Triple H and someone named Moon made the video? Awesome! :p

[@salerno7726]

OSW Review HD y'all fuckin suck and need to stop making videos

[@marvinwilloughby]

OSW Rev

[@alestorcrowley]

WCW Desire is truly beautiful and brings a tear to my eye.... rest in glory Tri

[@gluesniffer2]

This is really sad to watch knowing that pro wrestling would never get to this level of popularity again :(

[@SammyCSection]

AEW

[@catnip8896]

@@SammyCSection AEW is popular right now, but wrestling isn't.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

The popularity was a double-edged sword - the drive to out-perform the competition led to climate of one-upmanship that made the business shoot through 30 years of progression in about five. It'd all been done. A candle burning bright, and lasting half as long. They killed the town, except the town was the entire industry. The thing that'll save the industry - not bring it to a level of renown like prior but at least sustain it and keep it healthy - is the internet. The ability to sustain a niche thing through hardcore support from informed and passionate fans is possible in ways today that it wasn't before for products like ECW. Fans, as much as disgruntled wrestlers, created AEW. Almost as if it's been willed into existence. I'm not a big fan of it myself, but I think it - and increasingly the stuff they're doing with the NWA - as well as the increasing market for NJPW here in the states - will make the business SUSTAINABLE. Which is always how it's best - not massively popular - but a business where a normal bloke can put in the hours and make a living. To me that's a beautiful thing. Just need the WWE to keep shooting themselves in the foot and botching their plot to put an NXT in every Starbucks the world over. They haven't let me down yet, so here's hoping.

[@dimes3634]

@@fuzzydunlop7928 do you think the WWE will ever fall from grace? I mean I know it's popularity and it's production has deteriorated over the last decade, but do you think it will ever completely die the way WCW did?

[@ralph8677]

@@SammyCSectionAs popular as AEW is with today's wrestling crowd, it wishes it was half as popular as wrestling was during the Monday Night Wars. That's not a knock on AEW, that's just how white-hot the industry was then. Think of how much attention & hype WWE gets for WrestleMania each year.... now triple it & imagine that year-round. That was the wrestling business in the late 90's.

[@manmadeaids]

Buff Bagwell gettin the second biggest pop when McMahon asked what wrestlers to keep shouldn't be that surprising, me and my homies were always walking around high school doing buff's taunts and poses. He was so over and his finisher was also amazing.

[@JennaLeigh]

ok....that WCW Desire package was absolutely incredible.

[@LoganSewell83]

That WCW Desire montage should have been the final image for WCW. The Wrestlemania promo and upcoming invasion ruined the company's past value.

[@Kanefan701]

same here

[@At0micPunk90]

"The contract says SHANE McMahon!" That was a great moment. Too bad the Invasion ended up being so badly done.

[@rogerscott8211]

sad to see no WW3 if you don;t get it WCW, ECW, against WWF, "at war"

[@119Agent]

I would have liked to see Ric Flair in Shane's role. Basically take his promo from when he returned to WWF and use it here.

[@SamA-cw3be]

@asantos128 the plan was to see a wwf/wcw split. Vince wanted to give wcw Monday night but the network wouldn’t allow it. It didn’t want to give up raw. I have o agree, it still could have worked wit better booking. speaking as a wcw fan, how they were booked made me turn away completely from wrestling besides for osw... that was until aew!

[@cjvaye99]

nah man why spend money to get the real WCW like Sting, Flair, Scott Steiner Goldberg and the nwo when you can spend that money on the XFL and WWF New York? but seriously Vince lost like $65 million on the XFL idk how much on the restaurant I'm sure it was around the same. for just half that he could of got all those guys and he would of easily made back that money (and more) from the ppv buys and attendance at shows from the dream matches they would of had.

[@mikeperry7335]

@@cjvaye99 those guy were getting millions to sit at home WWE would've had to significantly over pay to get them off the couch

[@superby1]

Not only do I have Stasiak’s “Do It Now” stuck in my head but I am FLOORED by how amazing the WCW Desire was at the end! I’ll forever remember this night. I was 18, it was my mom’s birthday and the shock of the situation with WCW hadn’t settled in. I guess all those Vince segments helped numb us all to the reality that WCW was gone.

[@OSW]

🎵 Do it now! 🎵

[@superby1]

HAHAHA! Thank you! Not only is it awesome to get a response but I really needed that laugh. As always, keep up the amazing work, guys!

[@rrt1592]

Vince McMahon wasn't playing when he sang "Stand Back".

[@Mget41]

Goosebumps while watching the WCW Desire video. Well done another great episode.

[@BoltUnagi]

never realized that the zodiac sang Booker t theme.

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Did he? Yes...? No....? Lex: I DON'T KNOW

[@gabraggs2]

Nice.

[@matthewlane518]

Lol yes no yes no i get it

[@matthewlane518]

T-shirts are too tight too!!

[@dukeingraham6530]

Jimmy Hart wrote the music. He also wrote Hogans WCW theme and Shawn Michael's Sexy Boy theme.

[@ipleasenothing]

He's as quick as a cat, and he hits them with a bat!

[@WhiskeyPieSometimes]

Somehow it seems appropriate that WCW and the Sega Dreamcast died around the same time.

[@chefmastershake]

Both due to mismanagement of what had been a great product.

[@BuiltbyF]

@@chefmastershake both also died due to a far superior competitor. I loved the dreamcast but it was already obsolete when it came out. Shit timing really

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

The day.....the niiiineties....died

[@mechayamcha]

@@cognitivedissonance8406 less then a week from each other dreamcast was discontinued march 31 2001

[@ChaosTheory9]

ArchmageJodah gotta love Jet Grind Radio!

[@11nytram11]

Looking back this was one of the darkest days in wrestling. There was no longer a mainstream alternative to the WWF/E and McMahon became lazy and complacent with his assured monopoly, and wrestling has suffered ever since. Sure WCW was a mess by the end but they were a different brand with a different style and a different fanbase which kept some diversity in mainstream wrestling. Without them it was WWE or nothing, and many chose nothing.

[@drewgamezzz8482]

Yeah it really broke my heart when this happened, of course I was only maybe 9 or 10, depending on the day since my bday is October And I feel this was before then in the year, so I was 9 lol and it brine my heart to know that my favorite wrestling company was going to be no more after this show. Like I live in Mississippi and tho I did get and watch WWF at the time, I was always into WCW more, which I didn’t even watch WWF until my grandpa ordered and recorded the 1997 Royal Rumble for me and let me watch it when I come back to their house and I got to see what them became my favorite Rumble of all time tbh. Like the whole show was amazing from start to finish, but the whole Rumble and how they put Stone Cold over so hard and they way they got him to win by “being eliminated” the refs missing it and he gets in and takes out taker and Vader I think and then eliminates Bret to win, it was amazing tbh, amd Rock was still the fresh baby face, but he actually had a significant run to the end as well lol. This is when they both were starting to get really big. Then the Main Event in HBK’s hometown against Psycho Sid, it was a great match too Imo. If you ever get the chance you should check it out lol. But yeah, sorry about all that randomness, but yeah it made me so sad that I was losing what was my favorite wrestling show, tho I had started watching more and more WWF, WCW was still my favorite almost all the way to the end, though the angles were pretty rough most of the time, but that’s Russo for u lol. But at the same time I was actually really excited cause I thought maybe since they bought it they would still run it as a “competitor” to their own show and would let it run on the same channel, or find a new home for it since I doubt Turner wanted to work with Vince lol. But yeah, or I thought they would do what they ended up doing, but like everyone else I thought it would’ve ended up being sooooo much better and on a bigger scale as far as the talent they signed and brought in. Like I immediately expected them to buy at least a good main few of them out of their contracts to where they’d have more notable faces and stars to not hsbe to pull their own stars over, but we all saw how that went. If you ever wanna see a really cool video about The Invasion, you should look up Adam Blampied How I’d Book The Invasion Part 1 and 2, and also check out some of the other Fantasy Booking videos he has, cute man hearing the concepts he comes up with in these videos and thinking back to like this is how WWE should have done it knowing they deff could if they wanted to, makes you wonder what could have happened had they did the booking the way he put it. But Yeah, deff check those out, though they’re old af lol. Also there’s the 2 new guys out I started watching who do wrestling content mom thr wrestling channel they just started a month ago and other wrestling stuff they do on their company’s main channel, the company main is called Lumberlend, but their strictly wrestling content channel is called Mustache Bros Wrestling, and you should check them out too. They just started doing videos like I think maybe a year ago, but they’re actually really entertaining Imo anyway. And all of the other content on the main channel is pretty legit as well tbh. They do a lot of pike Wrestling quizzes and stuff, but they’re not like the super easy ones most do lol.

[@jamesoneill2929]

@@drewgamezzz8482 `s

[@TitaniaBird]

I've grown to believe that Vince winning ultimately led to Vince's ego overinflating, giving us the whole Vince-is-power-mad era from 2001 until 2022. He felt like he was proven right in being the "winner", when really what happened is WWE just didn't *lose.* WCW killed itself, but Vince's ego would never let him realize that. And so, he just grew into more and more of a control freak, leading to WWE disrespecting its fans repeatedly over the years and alienating viewers old *and* new. Only once he was forced out did WWE finally start respecting the fans and their time, and that was only because Triple H gained wisdom in his middle age that Vince didn't have. And even then, Vince's ego wouldn't allow him to go quietly and not try to exert his will. Because he won, he was right, and he's always right. Like a certain bad-haired buddy of Vince's, any evidence that Vince has gone mad is false to him, no matter how true it is to everyone else.

[@11nytram11]

@@Turnheadcough At the height of the Monday Night Wars around 10million people across America tuned in to either RAW or Nitro - each getting over 4million veiwers regularly - today AEW think they've had a great show it gets over 1million viewers and last year the WWE struggle to attract an average audience of over 1.8million - for the whole of 2022 RAW only got more than 2million viewers 4 times. It is undeniable that viewership of wrestling has declined massively since the boom days of the Attitude era. The WWE is still a hugely viable company that makes a massive profit, but it's audience has more than halved over the last 20 years as millions of people have stopped watching.

[@glennwelsh9784]

And yes, that WCW tribute montage was expertly put together and could've very well appeared on television after Nitro that night. Some truly great editing, particularly the transitioning of the various iterations of Sting and red-and-yellow Hogan transitioning into nWo Hollywood Hogan mid-legdrop with the nearly identical camera angle. Superb.

[@killwalker]

Wow. That WCW vignette thing was amazingly done.

[@OSW]

Thank you -- all credit to Tri.moon, he's responsible for some of the best internet wrestling vids and gifs - like Vince/Gary Strydom (wow!) and the Botchamania Intro! RIP Tri.moon 💚

[@killwalker]

@@OSW as i watched it, i was thinking it would be neat to have a similar one made that moreso showcases the talent jumping ship. Lex showing up at the mall Rick Rude on both Nitro and Raw on the same night. Radicals. But yea..good stuff. I miss WCW sometimes

[@timloss5423]

My 5th time watching this episode... You guys are awesome and i still find new things with every viewing

[@OSW]

+Tim Loss aw thanks Tim! A winner is you 😄

[@andymares3594]

Tim Loss dude I watched this at least 16 times lol.

[@timloss5423]

Andy Mares ive watched your mum just as much

[@johnnesbitt688]

Can't believe how late I am finding this channel. Simon Miller's list brought me here. Absolutely brilliant stuff lads. Such a great laugh watching these reviews. Fair play to you!

[@reygalvan6175]

The saddest day in wrestling

[@EvaIowaCubsFan]

15 years ago AJ Styles was doing matches as a cruiserweight in WCW. Now he's the WWE World Champion. Holy shit wrestling is weird

[@FireProMMA]

Not really. He was way undersized compared to the standard wrestler at the time and just starting out. In 2017 your body doesn't matter in wrestling which is quite sad.

[@Cokedlr]

Triple h, steve austin, undertaker, Jericho, all in wcw before wwf, so not as weird as you would think

[@purodeathcore]

Cokedlr yeah but besides Jericho they weren't cruiserweights which is damming

[@Mrmightyturtle]

FireProMMA How is that sad at all?

[@ehmiguel7602]

FireProMMA skill should count more than body anyway.

[@Sammy4549]

18 years later, Rey Mysterio is STILL flying all around the ring to this day.

[@rajveerkanojiya2985]

20 now

[@skyblaze2156]

Having the same matches and no good promos

[@tobznoobs]

his son is a better promo than he ever did. dominik carrying the feud vs rey.

[@codycurry52]

"T N N Turner Network Television" You had one job Vince

[@ECLMPD]

Omg. I was not expecting the WCW tribute ending but was blown away by it. Amazing and awesome. You guys have the right idea it should’ve ended exactly like that ugh. It sent chills watching it. Thank you OSW. I love you.

[@OSW]

Thank u brother. Tri.Moon made it for us, I was blown away seeing what he created, it has a special place in my heart. RIP Tomi 💚

[@ECLMPD]

@@OSWoh okay. RIP Tri.

[@WrestlingSmarks]

I personally liked Stacy's WCW gimmick much more than most of what she'd go on to do in WWE.

[@danmann861]

retrostyleNINJA Duchess of Dudleyville was a highlight of my teen years, but yeah, some of the stuff she did with Test in 2003 was pretty bad in retrospect. Still incredibly gorgeous though

[@JWS1985]

That's so true about Flair looking younger here. He looked pretty good until about 2003. I agree about cutting out some of the Vince segments. They could've been a little more fan-friendly and given more guys some screentime.

[@jaystockman7087]

This exact day marked the beginning of the end of the greatest time in professional wrestling.

[@TheCamSays]

Now considering the fact that we are 23 years on after this moment, a ridiculous fact to think about is this. Vince spent more money on the hush money scandal ($12 million) than for the $2.5 million spent on WCW minus the tape library.

[@pigs18]

The biggest problem that the invasion angle faced was the guaranteed contracts that WCW had offered the top stars. Because they were tied to Time Warner and not WCW, headliners like Hall, Nash, Hogan, Sting, Flair, and Goldberg were able to collect a paycheck for sitting at home with their only commitment to show up for any wrestling program that Time Warner put on the air. WCW offered to buy them out of their contracts but only for 50% of any remaining amount due. Only Flair took them up on the offer (with Vince paying the remainder) so that he could pay off his alimony. Everyone else just sat out the remaining year or two of their contracts.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Makes me hate Vince less whenever I hear about him and one of the talents actually having each other's backs. 😇

[@CulinaryJoey]

Welp Hall and Hogan gone from wcw in 2009

[@pigs18]

@@CulinaryJoey uhh...everyone's contract had expired long before that.

[@AndreThisIsTheWay]

Your editing skills are so good Jay. My dream is for wwe to give you a job creating all their wrestler biography and historic dvd content. Give that man a contract wwe... put that cigarette out.

[@johnny40000]

wow your wcw send off brought a tear to my eye. brovo.

[@hotrockhudson]

Same it got me

[@comradet0m]

American Lexpress Credit Card

[@Mr_Gray_Sky]

If you note that there was a cut between every line of Sean O'haire's promo, you get your answer as to why he sadly didn't make it.

[@cjvaye99]

yeah but he was awesome. a guy that size doing F5's and swanton bombs. He just needed a manager that could talk. not a crazy off his tits roddy piper

[@NitroNEXT]

Always thought it was a shame they did nothing with Vampiro. He had a lot of potential.

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

According to Vampiro himself, they called him up and told him they weren't interested in ever aquiring his services and not to bother looking for a job. They made a preemptive strike because of how bad his backstage reputation was. I myself really liked Vampiro and it was obvious he had a bright future in the business throughout 2000 and was destined for bigger things. It's a real shame how that worked out. WCW also appeared to have some real future stars in Shane Helms, Sean O'Haire, Chuck Palumbo, Mark Jindrak among others and looked to be really reviving the cruiserweight division which had WCW gone on would've included the likes of AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels and other future TNA X-Division talent. They were gradually turning things around and things were actually looking up again for WCW and then it all just ended abruptly. Bischoff seemed to have some great plans for a WCW revival but sadly we'll never know how that could've turned out. WWE squandered pretty much all of the bright young future WCW stars besides Booker T and Shane "Hurricane" Helms. Within a year of this angle WCW was already an afterthought. DDP, The nWo, Steiner, Goldberg and years later, Sting when they finally did come to WWE were all horribly wasted and misused. The wrestling business isn't some TV sitcom that has it's run and then comes to an end. It's a cyclical business that ebbs and flows. WCW may well have stayed down for a while longer but it inevitably would've picked back up again. The ratings by the final show weren't exactly in the toilet, they just weren't at the dizzying heights they used to be. It was just a short-sighted decision from some suit that didn't want to be associated with wrastlin'. At the end of the day Jamie Kellner - 64 million dollars vs 200+ BILLION dollars. Fuck you!

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@@Bubba__Sawyer The business ebbs and flows, but the late 80's to the early 2000's were NOT normal for the industry by any measure. The territories were stable as a landscape - a way of doing things. You could make a living like that - more niches for more people - localized, but not vacuums unto themselves. Then network television and the need to feed the promotional monster helped to change everything. Since that time it's been all ebb, little flow. The booms get shorter in duration and everything seems bust - so pretty acclimatized to this world of ours.

[@countof3everybodyOD]

Lol what

[@gordonirvine726]

According to Vampiro Vince begged him to join WWF but the next night an elephant dressed as a banana came to his house with a contract for him to sign but when the ink touched the contract it turned into a birthday cake with six lit candles on it. And due to this he was unable to sign.

[@JobboFett]

Sting in a cold room filled with baseball bats. I didn't realise he was Bruce Wayne.

[@anglefan85]

3 Count is pretty much the definition of "Boyzone"

[@davidhartding800]

One of them and His Super Hero in Training are in my Stable.

[@JennaLeigh]

Jay, your editing skills are undeniably superb. But that "WCW Desire" segment may be your Magnum Opus. The edits of Sting through the years.... the shooting star press/450 splash edits.....the red and yellow Hogan legdrop into the Hollywood Hogan legdrop gave me goosebumps. A case of Coke for you, good sir!! Thank you (and of course, huge thanks to V1 and OOC) for all of the amazing videos/podcasts!!

[@OSW]

You're very kind my dude! That particular slice of fried gold (the WCW Desire vid) was made by Tri.Moon, who passed away last year. Been a fan of his for a long while so was stoked to do something with him. He also made the GARY STRYDOM WOWWW gif and the famous Botchamania intros!

[@ChrisHominski]

Just noticed that Sting has Flair's poofy hair and Flair has Sting's spikey hair

[@LexTan]

"Not only is it being broadcast on TNN... but simultaneously on 'TNN'... Turner Network Television"... I guess McMahon isn't perfect after all..

[@chippydippy1530]

delfin garcia He’s pointing out the mistake not actually saying it’s owned by Turner

[@GazCT]

@@reggiefields6551 Wow

[@remixchild]

@@chippydippy1530 true During this time time Warner owned wcw all the way to the end

[@SkycoastermanFollowOnTwitch]

I love WCW... Thanks for the respect shown OSW!

[@SuperDevolution]

"Next week could be the last night of wrestling on Turner networks." Well, for about 20 years anyway.

[@Thechezbailey]

And Schiavone was there both times, too

[@jayanxiety]

One thing Vince never EVER got was it was competition that made wrestling great. When there are two promotions duking it out for supremacy that's when you pull out all stops, outwit and outsell your competition at all costs. The product is exciting and fans tune in. Now that the war is over, theres really only one big game in town. Everyone knows that it's no fun to run a race when there's nobody behind you attempting to catch up. Vince believes that "competing with yourself" is still "competition", but many fans disagree.

[@PatkaBoy831]

You know what is funny?.. in 1995 Vince voiced his displeasure in a meeting about WCW trying to kill WWF and, believe it or not, Vince himself said that a wrestling business without competition would be bad for business. So he knew. He fucking knew. Something I always found haunting was that a guy on an internet forum back in 2001 said that wrestling would be in the toilet after WCW and ECW went out of business. People knew and could see it coming.. and yet it happened anyway. Unbelievable. Jamie Kellner deserves a lot of shit too for canning wrestling.

[@ChaosTheory9]

Oh correction...I think Vince DOES get that competition drives the product. He just doesn’t care and would rather have none around lol

[@philiptucker7590]

I believe that Vince knew competing with WCW made the WWE put out better content. Vince just really didn’t care, he knew he was about to monopolize the wrestling industry and fans would have no choice really. Then tna blew up but still only drew around a million or so at their peak.

[@WrestlingSmarks]

That ending "WCW Desire" video package was glorious. Thank you.

[@ohnoanotherputz]

That was a great montage at the end!

[@ultrapipi1]

Good to see you back on KZbin !

[@mercermac1]

Incredible job on the WCW sendoff at the end. I loved it. The transition of Hogan's legdrop was so smooth too. I had to back it up and watch it again!

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

The OSW lads didn't make that video, they just splicey'd it in.

[@PatkaBoy831]

I finished a rewatch of WCW 2000 and 2001. Sean O'Haire is a standout from the get go. He and Jindrak were fantastic. I loved the Natural Born Thrillers.. but the booking is all over. I don't think the Devil's Advocate would have worked past vignettes. How do you go about booking that for week to week television? He also couldn't cut a promo without getting lost and laughing at times. Shame. He was a ridiculously talented wrestler.

[@TeemoQuinton]

Necropost - Very easily one can book a Devils Advocate gimmick. Push the opponents into a different situation, a move they don't often do. a mat-based wrestler going to the top to get countered in amazing fashion ,a high-flyer having to go low and slow to get out-worked and out-moved... For promos? It'd get old if it's the only aspect to the character, it should have been given the time to evolve. A "Flipper" character like the Devils Advocate would be, a good intermediary mid-carder for flipping other wrestlers from face-to-heel [or vice-versa] is something very much always in need, if you can evolve that basic premise to a main-event level character for when you want to shuffle the mid and upper card? Even better. Want a great example of a flipper main-eventer? Bray and the Fiend.

[@jonathanruvalcaba6568]

Happy Days Are Here Again

[@jonathanruvalcaba6568]

Also Sean O' Haire is part of my boys Question Though Can a wrestler be a boy even though there not with us anyone more

[@jonathanruvalcaba6568]

+Dan Hammonds He definitely had talent to be so in the WWE but we all know whats happened theee

[@MrLeedlesProductions]

+Jonathan Ruvalcaba HEY O'HAIRE IS MY BOY! Also yes he still counts as long as he never won the WORLD title

[@jonathanruvalcaba6568]

+mr leedles Thats True Forgot about that thanks 👍

[@MrLeedlesProductions]

+Jonathan Ruvalcaba NP

[@LeYt0nG]

that wcw desire...that was all i was asking my entire life..a decent good bye ..thank you guys

[@dannyinoakpark9095]

Please make The WCW Desire Segment a stand alone video! That was so awesome!

[@apocrypha5363]

Danny In Oak Park it's already on KZbin as a video, just search WCW Desire.

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

i just wanted whoever reads this to know.... i feel like i learn so many little things watching these videos. like when Hogan or Warrior immediately got their hands ready for a kickout. and its good to hear 3 very different opinions on certain matches, instead of just 1 guy saying how great/terrible it was

[@OSW]

Thanks brother! Glad ur digging the show. It's a tough balance as sometimes I don't know if some things are common knowledge or not. Appreciate ya watchin. Sláinte!

[@balwanidipesh1197]

Happy that i got here before this one's taken down and i have to watch it on vimeo.

[@planescaped]

"You've gotta grab your competition by the throat, and you've gotta squeeze the life out of your competition. Just like I did to WCW" Yep, Vince really did personally kill a good million+ wrestling fans with this one episode of Nitro and went on later to a couple of decades of running wrestling into the ground. >__> Also what was 'off' about Sting here is that he was dressed as Crow Sting but the promo was 100% surfer Sting, which was the right call honestly.

[@autobotstarscream765]

And then, once he was finished destroying the competition, he went back to his daily business of destroying his own business. "If anyone's gonna destroy what I created, it's gonna be me!"

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@autobotstarscream765 record profits last year says otherwise

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@alfa01spotivo Money ain't worth what it used to be, while wrestling sports entertainment doesn't occupy the place in cultural consciousness that it used to, having shrunk down over the years to a meme and now a niche thing, and considering he basically had full control over it over those years, what does that tell us, is he just in a bad situation doing damage control for a living?

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@autobotstarscream765 not really. Wwe is doing great

[@DaleEarnshark3]

@@alfa01spotivo Now WWE is being investigated for multi-level marketing schemes. So yeah, them, "doing great," really came down to selling the Network to NBC, the UFC/Endeavor merger, Saudi Blood Money deals, and Ponzi schemes. Meanwhile their product sucks shit and has since 01. The only reason they're still on top, is because everyone else is just that much worse.

[@mattdotsonapg1851]

Hearing Sting come out to Seek and Destroy 20 years later gave me chills.

[@Greedyselfish97]

So does this count as the first Night Of Champions event?

[@rogerscott8211]

wwe stoled that, too and one night stand from ECW and December to dismember, in 2006

[@PokePub]

Roc Flair’s hairstyle is clearly inspired by Super Sonic.

[@anthonym.3562]

First OSW I ever stumbled upon, still kills me every time the "Don't hate the player" exchange hits

[@Jex2112]

It cost Vince just around 2 million for WCW? He must of bought ECW for 20 bucks...

[@cjvaye99]

I see it as more of a picking up a couch left outside near the curb for the garbage man to pick up

[@alfa01spotivo]

500,000

[@thatoneguy668]

Did anyone else notice that Vince says TNN twice even though when he's talking about TNT, he's says the name "Turner Network Televison" correctly? One of the most groundbreaking moments in wrestling has a super obvious gaff. I don't think, however, that this had and effect of the impact of this promo.

[@M.S.Fitness]

He's so used to the Turner news network Im guessing thats why

[@FamousMovieScenes09]

That WCW tribute at the end never fails to make me misty eyed. Bravo

[@wrestlingjesus2893]

STEVE... WHAT BAAAARRR!?

[@scooberdoober2826]

damn wcw was just fantastic in that golden era! just untouchable

[@c3realK1ll4h]

It was touchable and lost badly in its final years

[@jyatsko89]

Ya but then basically right after, when the Attitude Era for WWF (WWE) ended, Vince's ratings started PLUMMETING the fuck down, lmao. Nowadays WWE is a shitfest and proven in its shit ratings haha! #vinceisgettinbodied

[@wftbanks5737]

cant believe you remember Hang Time. Jay your awesome

[@glennwelsh9784]

Redskins Banks I'm more surprised they even knew about both Hang Time AND California Dreams. Didn't think they got those poor Saved by the Bell ripoffs in Ireland. Being in the States, you never quite know how much American TV makes it to other countries, even in today's "stream everything everywhere" entertainment landscape.

[@Chukijay]

That Hogan clip in the end where it starts as classic Hogan and transitions into Hollywood doing a leg drop is beautiful editing and production. Wow.

[@rob7216]

I out loud said "that was dope" as that happened.

[@drjoe2323]

What a sad ending

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@drjoe2323 Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. 😇

[@terrygordon5542]

Lonely road of faith was just goosebumps to me.

[@jctwitedragon]

i remember in tears that night this was one of saddest nights in wrestling

[@davidmace7452]

Genuinely welled up on the WCW Desire video. Superb.

[@timmutohfan]

they gave kevin sullivan 3 months to fix what russo broke..how generous of them. every good booing mind the business has ever seen has stated it takes twice and in some cases 3 or 4 times as long to fix someone else's booking failures. he hardly had a chance to try and earn back the fans trust before turning it over to the two guys who squandered it. i wonder why they went out of business...

[@The_Real_DCT]

What do you expect from TV and buissness people? For them if a writing team isn't turning a show around, you hire a new set in this case bringing back Bischoff and Russo as Bischoff did well for 83 weeks and they probably thought he could keep Russo in line because Russo works better with a filter and a short leash. But yes it was a really stupid decision but who said that TV executives and suits in large billion dollar conglomerates are smart? The majority of them are actually pretty stupid

[@TeemoQuinton]

We can point at Russo all we want but he wasn't the one spending millions of dollars like it was going out of style... The ship sand because Bischoff is an idiot with finances, full stop. Russo just shot some more holes in the hull

[@TheMrelvisvicious]

“That’s embarrassing, taking a half naked man out of your wallet.” I love you, OOC.

[@neosgx96]

RIP Wcw, Ecw, Monday night wars, competition, excitement for wrestling

[@SuperDevolution]

I remember as a kid with no internet at the time, I was horribly confused because they kept calling it a season finale and never came back. It wasn't until years later that I learned WWE was going to relaunch it but couldn't.

[@luru1989]

20 years ago today WCW will always be remembered for its time in our living rooms.

[@Unlimited_Power]

I like your WCW reviews! My friend and I always noticed how Lex Luger oversells and we always noticed how great a wrestler Aloha Arn is lol. You should do more WCW PPV reviews like 1996 Great American Bash and Bash at the Beach, I like forward to more interesting takes on these PPV’s 👍

[@Dopeykilla]

man. that wcw tribute legit bought a tear to my eye. my whole childhood flashed. all those memories in front of my TV. all my friends and I getting together for the pvps. damn guys... thank you.

[@californiawells2805]

Vince really bought the corpse of WcW just to use it as his personal punching bag

[@autobotstarscream765]

And then as a new toy with which to attack his usual punching bag, the WWE! 😂

[@anthonyanderson9303]

That final montage at the end was EPIC.

[@Alkaline7y]

Watching this back and just remembering how this was basically the final nail in the coffin as to why I stopped watching wrestling when I was a kid. Obviously WCW was already going down before this, but I couldn't stand WWF at the time and I thought the takeover was terrible.

[@Leftysfive93]

I'd hazard a guess that Vince McMahon hates the majority of WW(f)E fans but loves their money and the pro wrestling business as a whole. That's a strange dichotomy considering he's probably the biggest pro wrestling fan of all time himself but he's managed to keep his business going and stay profitable for the majority of it's run. His whole family were born into the business or have been around it so long that they're as passionate too.

[@ChaosTheory9]

That’s def not true...but it’s 2019....pretty much 18 years without true competition. There’s no motivation or drive or anything besides satisfying the public shareholders. That’s it. There’s no passion anymore and the product shows for it. The only reason they are “shaking things up” is because the ratings are so low that Vince is afraid of the shareholders

[@TeemoQuinton]

I don't think Vince has ever really been a wrestling fan, he's more into bodybuilding than he is wrestling... WE've known that for what, 40 years on?

[@MissAlmostFine]

@@TeemoQuinton Really late to this convo but I agree. I don't think Vince is fan of wrestling. Vince had the ambition to make his family's business grow and he did it by hook or by crook and despite his contempt for what traditional businesses saw as lowbrow and classless. Now whether his children have the same outlook remains to be seen, but they may lack the business mind and you need both.

[@MissAlmostFine]

@@TeemoQuinton Really late to this convo but I agree. I don't think Vince is fan of wrestling. Vince had the ambition to make his family's business grow and he did it by hook or by crook and despite his contempt for what traditional businesses saw as lowbrow and classless. Now whether his children have the same outlook remains to be seen. They may lack the business mind though and you need both.

[@michaelk8860]

One of my favorite reviews you've done. Still as heartbreaking to see all these years later, and it helped me see past the rose colored glasses of nostalgia to how terrible the show was because of the Vince vignettes and super short, crammed in matches. Thank you, thank you, thank you for the ending company look-back wrap up. I thought it was a meaningful and heartfelt tribute, and some of the fades were just brilliant.

[@WessCNY]

You guys seriously have the best intros on all of KZbin.

[@WTFweretheythinking1]

That ending was amazing, what a champ putting in all of that time for that WCW Desire, Cheers!!!

[@Gravydog316]

Why would he commit suicide?! still unbelievable omg :( so sad :(

[@miamimagicians]

what was wrong with Scott Stieners powerbomb? It looked fine to me??

[@ShaunInce123]

I've been holding off on watching this review for a while. Wanted to wait until we got to the 20th anniversary. And now, here we are.

[@jonathanzapata2942]

I only saw wcw from 98 (stings return) til its death but that tribute video made me feel like i saw everything..top notch guys!

[@scoldrozy4576]

Where can we get those WWE bloopers with audio?

[@fffjfjfjfjf]

+Alfred Rosenberg ^^^^^^^

[@IROQUOISxPLISKEN]

WWE Network: Too hot for TV - "Bloopers and Blunders"

[@JennaLeigh]

Alfred Rosenberg precisely what I was thinking! those are amazing!!!

[@Rando1975]

Beautiful ending guys.

[@magicmulder]

First time I saw Steiner this jacked I thought "OK, Rick has really gone to extremes" and then it dawned on me "That's SCOTT??"

[@MrKennyWilliams]

Abouit The Rock and Hurricane Helms. The Rock LEGIT Liked Hurricane and When they were shooting Pre-Taped Promo's the Rock would INTENTIONALLY Flub them up, so they won't have enough time to do them, force them to do it live and make it feel more natural. The Rock LEGIT Wanted Hurricane to get over.

[@diabeticman2194]

If there’s one thing I’m sad about with the last Nitro, it’s that no one went into a pool. Love a pool spot in my wrestling

[@rob7216]

That montage at the end...Right in the feels man. WCW was always my favorite. Sad to see it end the way it dude with such great talent on the roster.

[@MrWise-cm4nq]

Holy hell that was a bad ass farewell. I almost teared up. Awesome!!!!

[@TheSolarKhan]

Thank you for the tribute at the end. Seriously.

[@OSW]

Thank you mate! That part was made by Tri.moon, who has made a ton of wrestling gifs that were passed around, like Vince/ GARY STRYDOM WOWWWWW! (RIP Tomi)