Lessons in Magecraft 26 - Spiritrons

[@otakudaikun]

Would you join the Moon Cell Grail War in order to escape the decrepit state of the earth?

[@hydrasfang]

Probably yes but would I even make it to the war most likely not but if I did I'd like to summon Nameless because he seems like he could keep me in check because I'm someone that is hot-headed and don't think before I act I'm hoping he'd make sure I don't do anything I'd regret.

[@nighthawk72j80]

Depends, is fighting way through hundreds of legendary warriors and powerful mages worth escaping the apocalypse formerly called earth?

[@flygonkerel781]

Hell naw. I saw what happened to all the countless failures lol

[@eriktb89]

With Morgan Le Fay or any Artoria version I'm in!

[@bismael2038]

Sure

[@WildArtistsl]

Fun fact in Heavensfeel Shirou body was literally obliterated. Sakura and Rin sold everything to get him a puppet body of the crown princess Touko

[@mide2476]

As a Type-Moon Fanfiction writer, these Magecraft Lessons are my best 'Cliff notes' for them. Thank you Prof. Otakudaiku.

[@WildArtistsl]

Can I get link please? Looking to read some if it’s okay?

[@mide2476]

@@WildArtistsl When it's ready, for sure.

[@The_OctoGuy]

It’s been two years. How’s the writing cookin’?

[@mide2476]

@@The_OctoGuy Unfortunately Yes. I'm still cooking. Sorry.

[@cotocoyerakson8195]

True man, I'm trying to learn more so I don't mess up when writting, although I might have got a little carried away with some characters. It's hard to piece all the pieces together, especially when you have like 20 original characters and even entire families and factions. I was trying to make a Resident Evil 6 type of story, with different perspectives and stories happening at the same time but all come in together in the end and the main characters of each story come to face a single root of all their problems and team up or fight each other due to different point of view.

[@samarius_art_and_games]

Also, a friendly reminder: The Shinji in Extra is actually a fairly good person, and is easy to respect.

[@thefiregodzapp]

And isn't Extra Shinji a literal child?

[@samarius_art_and_games]

@@thefiregodzapp I believe his Avatar is an eight-year-old child, yeah.

[@otakudaikun]

I'm not so ready to agree.

[@tonyinfinite5174]

I'm also told he's not the same Shinji Matou from stay night but a different person with the same name

[@otakudaikun]

@@tonyinfinite5174 It gets semantic.

[@neosragnar2774]

I find it fascinating that spiritrons have always been around and can be of use in a virtual and real world. Not only that but they work outside the limitations of normal magecraft (that being the weaking of mystery and loss of mana) while not calling the world to come in and unalive that universe. They are probably why the Atlas Academy can have all the F you weapons they have. Imagine a world where spiritrons are used to restore spells from the age of gods in a modern setting, simply because they are coded into some sort of supercomputer/psuedo-root-thing the philosophy magecraft has going on and not reliant on the mystery magecraft needs. shivers man, they'd be fighting the Types before long and it would be epic.

[@FistoftheUmbralStar-1.0]

I still remember trying to wrap my head around wtf a lostbelt or a singularity was when I first got into the Nasuverse; but thanks to the effort you put in your videos, there is almost very little that I don't know about it. You have my thanks! 👍

[@otakudaikun]

It's funny that I kinda have to make these vids to figure it all out myself.

[@unrankedchevron742]

One of my favorite factoids is that Bradamante cover herself in spiritrons to protect herself. Makes you wonder why any Servant bothers with armor.

[@otakudaikun]

I forgot that. Very cool!

[@theisyes6993]

My previous comment I deleted was regarding Bradamante’s usage of mana as armor. Forget what I said

[@NekoKat.]

Great lesson very helpful. Everything I knew about spritrons and the moon cell I got from the Fate Extra last encore anime witch wasn't much lol. I have to admit I'm more partial to traditional magecraft but with very little or no mana joining the moon cell grail war would be very tempting. Can't wait for the next lesson

[@Lover_Of_Yuri]

Adding in how servants change their outfits and classes while summer 4 is out, I see what you did there.😉

[@otakudaikun]

I love that pic of Nitocris.

[@Lover_Of_Yuri]

@@otakudaikun She was one of my first 4 stars so I have a soft spot for her tbh!😄

[@axelnetzahualcoyotl5223]

That was a great lesson,certainly modern technology has upgraded traditional magecraft to a whole new level.

[@tahamoukhliss8420]

It all makes sense if we think about it. Our every day electronics use Bits, a series of 0s and 1s to process information. over 50 years ago, even with more archaic devices, we managed to send a guy to the freaking moon. and quantum computers are said to make encryption near impossible to breach through. Spiritron computers use litteral Soul particles, elements of a recording structure from a higher plane, with processing power that can even allow time travel

[@povilzem]

Magic is disappearing from the world because people rely more and more on technology. Let's use more technology to fix that!

[@GnosisZX]

Perhaps if we find out how magic works instead of throwing it away it won’t disappear See I always hated that mystery stuff by it definition the best magic is unknown and you born with it and use it akin to breathing air aka being arcueid it’s stupid to me

[@nullpoint3346]

@@GnosisZX "Magic" is simply spending mana to do the impossible. As technology and knowledge improves the impossible becomes possible, and thus the Magic dies. Mystery however, is a load of bullocks all the way through. As for why thaumaturgy (what most people think of when you say magic) is dying, I haven't the slightest clue.

[@rafaelbastos8713]

@@nullpoint3346 Isn't that dying of magecraft related to the whole "Gaia's last moments" stuff and th arrival of th age of will?

[@nullpoint3346]

@@rafaelbastos8713 That's the backstory for A-liners and Grain, right? That's all I recall at the moment.

[@9NEJ6]

I don't see it directly referenced, but in Fate/EXTRA Blossom Return 3 they say code casts they can be used in both the virtual world and real world. It's a bit of a throwaway line on the Magecraft page from the typemoon fandom wiki.

[@true2anime920]

11:38 Really can't help but admire how u paint a science to this content thanks the lore and data from the games and such. Especially since some of the content is based on real things. So the sense of realism spices it up even more. As always Good work.

[@theswappyguy2809]

Babe wake up the mysterious all knowing being professor otaku has a new lesson!

[@ThatFateGuy69]

It's always exciting to see new lore video

[@ivanbluecool]

Priest and nun mystic code when? Clealry they are powerful with how every priest is built like a tank. Jokes aside they are a very interesting thing in story but underused or appreciated outside of fgo. The manga does go into them a bit giving some boosts here and there. Man how I wish more people could read ccc. It's incredible and for people that like melt in seraph it's basically that for bb who I honestly like a lot more being the "villain" for good reasons. Plus gilgamesh was amazing there and those mystic code are fun to see used for combat. But yeah just standard stuff for most being a way to tank Explosions or boost normal physical activity is fine enough as gudao and any master really can't do much to a servant while master battles are more interesting anyways with stakes in the line and every hit matters.

[@tonyinfinite5174]

agreed on the last paragraph the fight between Kirei and Kiritsugu is elevated Fate to new highs it the biggest reason to watch Fate Zero, other then explaining the HGW better then three route's of Stay/night

[@ivanbluecool]

@@tonyinfinite5174 the build up was great overall for the two and was the major end to zero. Though kayneth vs Kerry was just as great to see. Fsn it's very off balance overall but strange fake does great master battles

[@vogel2499]

Ciel(with Roa hax) could go toe-to-toe with Cu. But anyone else would be too weak to handle even the weakest servant, even Kirei.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@vogel2499 you know cu has what shiki has but better as he can launch it. Plus that not even bringing up the runes. Angra is the weakest but even can handle holding off servants. It's plot that keeps masters alives or getting the jump on a servant like what soichirou does

[@yarigold]

I always found the background story of Fate Extra to be shallow and fishy, first you introduce ancient aliens that made a supercomputer during a time Earth was still being devellopted because for reasons that it foresaw that "humans" are the most important species in the universe (lol). The timeline that remains exactly the same till the 70's of a certain big ritual done earlier than normally planned (supposedly it's the ritual that the death apostles ancestors planned to do in Tsukihime 2, but Nasu never confirmed it or wants to talk about leaving everything vage and dusted). The mooncell war before any mention of it turning into a HGW was normally just a place for magi to go wild and kill themself. (the fact that spiritrons only still recently got discovered for a couple of decades max, kinda makes you wonder how magi got there without using spiritrons). Despite the mana being completely dry, odly the world hasn't turned into a Mars 2.0. Which is wierd because mana comes from the air, plant and trees. That suggest it's only a gradual process... however no the mana is completely dried up because magi cannot use spells (atleast not the ones that requires mana), so it doesn't make sense. And somehow this version of the world also went through a 5th HGW... how??? But my personal pet peeve would always be that the orginal Rin Tohsaka should still be alive, in her early 40's yes but still kicking. If you can do this with Waver a older Rin should recieve just as much, like seriously what where they thinking?

[@otakudaikun]

A lot of that is so much speculation I have a hard time responding to it all. I do agree there are all sorts of plot holes in extra that deserve development.

[@Gilgamesh97C]

Will u explain the difference between a Throne of Heroes Heroic Spirit and a Mooncell Heroic Spirit

[@thirdplanet4471]

From my understanding- Moon cell heroic spirit: digital copy of a real world heroic spirit Throne of heroes heroic spirit: real world person elevated to status of heroic spirit It's kind of like the white Christmas episode of black mirror

[@otakudaikun]

More or less the same thing, just a different mechanism.

[@Gilgamesh97C]

Yeah but aren’t pseudo spiritrons bodies relatively weaker compared to Actual Spiritrons Bodies except for Gilgamesh cuz fuck the rules 😂 of course in the Extraverse pseudo spiritrons bodies would be strong in a world devoid of mana and a weak throne of heroes

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@thirdplanet4471 No. I mean you're a bit wrong about the Throne of Heroes part. Though it's neither a confirmation or not from my opinion. Fate strange fake given me some perspective that the actual person from stories that became a Heroic Spirit is not that person at the same time. He/she is nothing but a record that were recorded by the Throne. Think of it as copy+paste. Francesca Prelati, master of True Caster, in Snowfield Grail War was able to summoned a Servant of herself. And by herself I mean her actual reflection of herself. Francesca summoned her Heroic Spirit version. The Throne was able to record of her from her first death. The Heroic Spirit version has no memories from after that first death. Francesca is able to lived for so long due that she can changed bodies that prolong her lifespan to eternity. A unique method of immortality that somehow revolves around reincarnation. This revelation is something that tell us that perhaps every Heroic Spirit in the Throne of Heroes are nothing but records. Though I don't think everyone fits the bill. Some few like Gilgamesh and Saber are not records but a true actual person that elevated as Heroic Spirit. Though Saber is still technically can be recorded from the Throne even though that her real soul reside over in Avalon. Gilgamesh in Moon Cell were truly the real deal. Even the supercomputer didn't completely just make a record from the King of Heroes but the actual person itself make an appearance. To every Heroic Spirit that Moon Cell recorded. Only Gilgamesh comes closer or in fact the most genuine among the Servants.

[@LyionOfRoses]

@@rogueascendant6611 technically Gilgamesh just gives off that impression of being the original because of his personal skill Sha Naqba Imuru The Omniscient Omnipotent Star which allows him to see all possible futures and act accordingly

[@myliege8197]

I really wonder what humanity will look like in FGO's timeline when it reaches 3000A.D. Maybe something like the Irregular at Magic High School? And splendid lesson as always Dai!

[@otakudaikun]

I still need to watch that show.

[@Alpha.Phenix]

And I need to rewatch it.

[@rogueascendant6611]

There's a short story regarding a 'what if' scenario or possible future on the fate of humanity in the year 3000 A.D. It described or narrated by a girl living on the Moon. She is reminiscing the state of mankind after achieving a utopian level in technology and society. But some odd drawbacks happens. The fire, flame, whatever you call that once ignited the curiosity and will of humans that moved them forward have been dissipated. No longer seeking a new tomorrow. The condition of humankind made them livid, stagnant, unable to perceived excitement or happiness. In a way, humans are kinda stuck in a limbo. With this state, humanity are on the road of extinction.

[@myliege8197]

@@rogueascendant6611 Isn't that the Drama CD and manga "Moon's Coral (Tsuki no Sango)"? I listen to that narration by Maaya Sakamoto and it's so surreal. This is my wishful thinking but I do wish to see FGO continue beyond the Lostbelt Arc.

[@otakudaikun]

@@rogueascendant6611 That's Tsuki no Sango right?

[@justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456]

man that sure was a good listen

[@alex-x2t8r]

I can't wait for the next magecraft lesson

[@kana22693]

That one time Fate decided to do a fusion dance with Shin Megami Tensei Soul Hackers.

[@Fyr365]

Great work on this lesson! It was very much informative.

[@Sawtooth44]

*meanwhile in Sawtooths version of the Grand Order* well ill see you all there *he opens a door to his pub that exists between universes and at the very edge of the Fantastical line, he then opens the door again this time it opens inside the singularity*

[@Arzma]

I hope you explain as well on your next video the "grand servants"

[@someoneelse4939]

Interesting and indepth as always.

[@stevepitt-ash4628]

Another lesson done yay and a week before my birthday no less thank dai

[@otakudaikun]

Ooh! Happy early birthday!

[@stevepitt-ash4628]

@@otakudaikun thank dai

[@savoivkovic4197]

nice one.

[@hoangquancao5330]

Wait. So Spiritron-based Technologies would be the Clark tech of Nasuverse???

[@otakudaikun]

Clark?

[@hoangquancao5330]

@@otakudaikun Sorry kinda write it down wrong, its was supposed to be Clarketech. You know, Arthur C. Clarke third law: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

[@otakudaikun]

@@hoangquancao5330 That sounds familiar, but I don't know from where.

[@draynaruegames]

So I get that Atlas uses Spiritrons in-place of Electrons, and that explains all the insane stuff they have, but what I've always wondered is...WHERE DO THEY GET THEM FROM?? If Spiritrons are the quantum particle that makes up THE SOUL, just WHO are being sacrificed to create these computers and homunculi?? Are people having their souls split?? Do souls heal?? Does Atlas have a mass grave beneath their HQ with all the people they've stolen souls from?? Hyperbole aside, I am genuinely interested in the actual ins-and-outs of how Spiritron stuff actually works, assuming Nasu even has answers for it lol

[@wojciechwerner8787]

What Wizard could do in material world in comparison to Magus?

[@madambutterfly1997]

Why isn't astromancy considered a form of true magic. In the last fgo lostbelt vid we established that during the age of gods it was absolutely broken as a power.

[@otakudaikun]

I don't make the rules lol. That said there are many feats that are on par with True Magic but aren't classified as such.

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@otakudaikun sounds like Monster Hunter. There are monsters equal to elder dragons in power but aren’t classified as elder dragons themselves

[@pyronable]

This reminds me of Irregular at Magic Highschool

[@officerdont5691]

What are pseudo spirtrons

[@otakudaikun]

I believe it's when the soul is split into its component particles.

[@kaybevang536]

And here I am playing Fate Extella Link after calling time off of work 😞

[@otakudaikun]

I mean, that's a fun way to spend your time. I hope you're doing okay.

[@cindypinedavalle8984]

Hola me encantan tus vídeos, como sugerencia crees que podrías agregarle la opción de subtitulos a estos videos es que no se me da muy bien el inglés quizás ayuden a tener más visitas thanks

[@otakudaikun]

¡Muchas gracias! Estoy de acuerdo en que agregar subtítulos es una buena idea. Sin embargo, no tengo a nadie que me ayude con ese proceso.

[@cindypinedavalle8984]

​@@otakudaikunEntiendo igual gracias por responder a mi comentario 😊

[@carlosgarza400]

FGO could never really explain this. One day we'll know Shirou's biological parents and know what kind of relationships he'd be in that

[@AstronScion]

thank you

[@GnosisZX]

Magecraft cool arts but the people behind not very nice. Still great video