Toast on Alexby 's Tweet and Current Twitch Rivals Situation

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[@annquach6613]

I just feel so bad for toast. He clearly put so much time in this, and it clearly did not go as planned. Not his fault either.

[@brenthazelton6891]

I feel bad for toast, this was mostly supposed to be a good time, so i do hope there were bright spots for him. I enjoyed watching all the NA guys hanging out and grinding.

[@demoth]

Nah toast got a blueprint for an entertaining event. He just need for refine and pick teams that he knows won't cause too much drama. He came out the biggest winner in all this imo.

[@gotworc]

They won so I don't think they care LMAO

[@dumbking4253]

@John Smith what , what lie , they didn't pick a good server and the adminis help NA a lot ....a looooooot jesus , watch the rival and check the rules

[@sheyshi1035]

@@dumbking4253 everything was set up to be fair, they picked and east coast server to minimize ping of all involved, they actively listened to the complaints during the event and tried so hard to appease both sides. Maybe some of the communication was lost in translation, but quitting is just unacceptable for people who do this for a living. The attitude they showed just negated any validity of their complaints. Sure they may have been disadvantaged by some events, but the whole thing was winnable had they decided to just continue on despite perceived unfairness. It was an insult to all involved, even their teammates who worked so hard to try and catch up, to just quit in the middle of it for reasons which may be easily resolved and talked over.

[@AXEL201211]

@John Smith the admins destroyed it all so they deserve for making things harder for other team. That was a lame win

[@jeraldmaano1181]

I don't understand the hate for some of the NA team being degens. It's literally a 48 hours event no one got the upper hand off of the timezones it's just a matter of who's more willing to sacrifice their sleep to win the whole event. It's a fcking competition if you want to win you need to grind for your team's resources LMAO.

[@teacup203]

Thats what im thinking as well, i mean they are attending a "Competition". What are they even expecting lol?

[@NinjapowerMS]

As someone who joined a small tournament for rust and it was 5 days that's how it went. We usually expect to wake up with the outside of our base littered with nonsense lol. Lots of dramas in these tournaments but its a really fun experience.

[@SJ-kp9bi]

“They started using revolvers when it was primitive day” Buddha got killed 15 minutes into the server by revolvers so then team NA started using them

[@johngrimm2074]

Literally this. There are sweats in Spain too, and acting as if only NA have sweaty players is just too stupid.

[@Jomaro7]

Yep , and they spawn camp them early game

[@gtas321]

Revolvers are primitive. It's a tier 1 weapon.

[@gurdeep0407]

@@Jomaro7 Toast died before he started playing

[@SJ-kp9bi]

@@gtas321 you don’t have to tell me, tell that to the Spain team

[@mrfredbasset]

I only watched a bit of the event but I 100% agree with the reply to the tweet at 11:00 from Chotski. The small Spanish streamers put in so much work and so many hours to the event and then the bigger ones quit. I wonder how much discussion they actually had with everyone? If those smaller streamers even had much say in any of this

[@katastrofygames]

From some of the clips and vids it seems like it was like 10 big Spanish streamers complaining and arguing with Alex (Spain team captain) and no one else could really get a word in between those 10 baby raging. Yeah it sucks for the small Spanish streamers. Now because the whole team quit they don’t get the recognition for their hard work. The Spanish streamers were too prideful I guess, once they started getting destroyed they wanted to preserve their pride by just leaving. They didn’t care about twitch or Spain or their team. They only cared about their individual image.

[@RudyTheNinja]

The worse part is that it doesnt matter how bad other ppl feel for them Or how many ppl say the whole "bad apples" thing They completely dragged the rest of the spanish streamers down with them n that's how the majority is going to think about them Whether we like it or not, it still gives them *all* bad rep. To the bad _and_ the good ones

[@katastrofygames]

@@RudyTheNinja agreed. I hope in the future, twitch invites the smaller Spanish streamers back. Some of them were actually nice and good people. You can tell some just wanted to be a part of the event and have fun. And I kinda understand why if the big streamers were saying “we all need to log off” they would follow. Those are the OTV OTK streamers of the Spanish community. You know? They are big with a lot of influence. If you go against them it’s literally like you are going against all the Spanish viewers and streamers. And who’s going to help you when your stream is tanking in views because all the Spanish viewers view you as a traitor? Or because the big Spanish streamers view you as a traitor? It’s not like they can change communities and stream to NA or CN or something. That’s basically starting all over.

[@RudyTheNinja]

@@katastrofygames didnt even think about it like that That is no longer dragging them down That is nothing less than forcing them into bad lighting

[@elsospechosoo7092]

@@katastrofygames esté que se fumó?

[@ahmadbmr]

Even if there was a language barrier, there clearly is a mediator or moderator to settle these issues and explain everything to both sides. It is not like the rules weren't laid out before the event was organised. They knew the stakes, the times, the timezones, the players and so on. They had all the information yet they blame the the other team and the organisers for not understanding their predicament. This is one of the first proper team gauntlets I have seen in awhile where different perspectives were so fun and interesting but it seems sometimes, people don't see it as just a game. GGs Team DisguisedToast

[@razputinattano5937]

As far as the mediating goes, the translator was just incompetent at best(during the broadcasted talk after they had disconnected). They obviously did not have all the information as when you watch their streams it's like a whole different game is being played, where the NA team is the one breaking the rules. Just because the rules are being understood by the team that speaks the language they are being drafted in does not being they are being understood by the other team. Given the way they handled translation while trying to handle a dispute that could've ended the event, I have no reason to think that they did a good job of communicating the rules to the other team. Is it really so hard to conceive of miscommunication happening?

[@gtas321]

Originally funnily enough there was no rules. It was just rust.

[@gtas321]

@@razputinattano5937 There was no rules. It was just a game a rust. The Spanish team is the one that start crying for there to even be rules to begin with. There was supposed to be a script that prevented raiding until the last 3 hours and the NA broke a little bit of a twig base (four hours in mind you, upgrading from twig takes a few seconds dude)

[@Coilzz]

Rules were not laid out, just so you know not everyone started with the server the same time so everyone weren’t told the rules

[@ad_kk16]

Also, one of the streamers I was watching received nasty comments from the Spanish team viewers (it was all in Spanish) when the situation was happening

[@MGZetta]

The biggest national rage quit event in esports history.

[@bullfrog521]

Rust can never be an eSport, just due to the fact of it's game design. It's like an MMO, where the player who spends the most time, usually has the advantage.

[@Nickolai20599]

@@bullfrog521 Isn't that the same for most games though, more time investment = better odds of winning / advantage. Long sessions naturally can be hard for people, but that's just the game. In test cricket, the play usually lasts for about 7 hours and 30 minutes each day and the matches are played over 5 days. The difference here is that this wasn't two pro teams going at one another, it's streamers. It's supposed to be a fun event with lots of *content* creators, not pro athletes necessarily. Any game can be an esport if done right, this event just by its nature and intent isn't really that.

[@bullfrog521]

@@Nickolai20599 The time spent outside the match, improving you skills, is not the same as the time you spend in a rust 'match', in which more time spent in rust can give you more resources than your opponent. So basically the team that requires less sleep will have an advantage. No sport has ever test your endurance on staying awake, when it's actually bad for your health to be sleep deprived. If they had setup the tournament where all the players had to leave the server at a certain time, in order for all players to sleep, and then on the next day, everyone is allowed to log back in at the same time. Then Rust could be an actual esport. But then this wouldn't be really fair in this situation because of players having different time zones. And this is no longer the original game, but a modded version to turn it into an eSport

[@RoNSiLvErHXC]

Dilanzito no rage quit

[@drk7313]

@@RoNSiLvErHXC really they was better than NA in pvp , they quit tired cause administration was disastrous

[@alain_paul]

When you have players like hjune, coco, xqc, abe, kristoferyee, pheetus, mendo who are degens there is no sleep/down time for NA

[@HeavenReP]

And THAT was NA's advantage... Rust degens. Fuckin loved the event can't wait for another (preferably with a larger amount of people that have more common sense against NA).

[@Cakeyyama]

Not only that, but Ray C came in toward the middle of Day 2 and he's like a Rust God too. Spain had no shot, but the incessant moaning and groaning was just rough.

[@FAT4LS]

@@Cakeyyama Bruh, Ray C rolled them so hard that they started questioning about him if he was invited in the twitch rivals LMAO

[@gianpunongbayan9823]

@@FAT4LS i love this moment lmao

[@aroshazalke7573]

@@FAT4LS LMAO is there a clip for this?

[@NoContent229]

This was my first time watching a twitch rivals event and I honestly enjoyed it but it is unfortunate how it ended but content wise it was amazing lmao

[@Coilzz]

If the Spanish dint quit they would have won prob

[@alejandroalfonso4457]

@@Coilzz si tuvieras la capacidad de ver todo el contexto y no solo ver tu parte entenderias porque hicieron "rage quit" pero creo que como la mayoria de los de habla inglesa no van a reconocer que siempre tienden a hacer todo favorable a ustedes. Ojo no digo que los españoles sean ejemplo de nada, tambien cometieron faltas de respeto y lo llevaron todo muy lejos pero su streamer xqc tampoco se quedo corto hablando mierda racista.

[@ORCaptain]

@@alejandroalfonso4457 Xqc told them to get a job and their respons was to use slurs and tell him he's a racist.. I watched his whole stream and that's the main extent to his harassment.. if you have another situation he was worse then that pleas let me know.. I can tell you now he was worse to his own teammates then them. And as for admins they gave Spain points.. NA never got any extra points, they tried to give them gear to do a final event and Spain simple said no.. none of these were offered to NA

[@Billybobjoe_151]

@@alejandroalfonso4457 lmao victim mentality. And Spain is full of white racists so idk who you're trying to get sympathy from.

[@mightymodo]

@@alejandroalfonso4457 anybody playing rust and then crying about "harrassment" deserves a ban as well as a lifetime subscription to hello kitty online. its an adult game, not meant for snowflakes.

[@mints7349]

Reasons why Spanish team quit 1. They were accusing NA team of cheating which turned out to be false. e.g. accusing Toast of getting a free gun by admins when it was actually toast's gun in the first place. Toast had to watch his own stream to get the AK skin but he doesnt so he asked the admin to skin his gun that he crafted. 2. Spanish team accused NA team of getting preferential treatment from Admin team. e.g. Admin disabled oil rig event which gave 100 dogtags (points) and instead let teams fight for crates which would give 20% of total dogtags. The crates would significantly give more points over time. So, if there 10,000 dogtags total at the time, the team who got the crate would get 2,000 points. Teams were given the time of when they were spawned so they could plan for it ahead of time. 3. Spanish team felt that timezones were unfair. The reality is -- its a 48hour event. NA had alot degens that stayed for 12hours straight just farming. There werent much Spanish streamers who would do the same. TLDR: NA team was better communicating with their team. Both sides had their pros and newbies. Spanish team had a poor understanding of the rules and win condition. They could have literally won the game if they did the last event which was a free-for-all raid. Their team was so downbad that the admins offered to give them rockets and guns to raid the NA team.

[@Jyang.11]

Someone spitting facts over here. Praiseee

[@accessdenied5998]

They also wrote the rules and break themself

[@SniperKing5]

Spanish people are notorious for diving and complaining when it comes to football. A lot of them seem to also be under the impression that latino culture is superior. It's not surprising at all to me that they would complain like this

[@Gomitasd]

@@SniperKing5 that's a very different subject

[@jhonatanperez9481]

@@SniperKing5 dude that is the weirdest comment I've seen here wtf...

[@tamalokote1852]

time zone makes zero sense when u have people like hjune and coco who are playing 48 hours straight

[@gtas321]

Yea. It's a competition. Rust is not a game for casuals.

[@zen1nfps]

and also mendo

[@tamalokote1852]

@@gtas321 also there is something that only people that know videogames say about rust and they dont sait to any other game "this is RUST"

[@DMTgamezone]

I'm glad Toast is able to comprehend what went wrong for both sides. Clearly team Spain wasn't prepared for a 48h non stop event, clearly there were some issues with the rules for both sides and clearly there is some bad ego on some streamers for both sides. Some of the biggest streamers for team Spain also had to leave forcefully due to getting DDoS attack on the Andorra ethernet many times during the event. Hopefully in the future they can do something like this again with better clearer rules and maybe just a 24h event.

[@knva6330]

out of all the languages in the world you decided to speak facts

[@nayswhan1022]

I think they made it 48 hours so that it would be fair for both teams since they are in different time zones.

[@gotworc]

@@nayswhan1022 yeah exactly.

[@DMTgamezone]

@@nayswhan1022 That makes sense but I guess it would still be a bit unfair for one of the parties depending on the time they start. Its really difficult to do something like this. They just needed clearer rules really

[@rickdiculousyo9320]

And not invite team spain again

[@Omosisthefuture]

Complaining about timezones in a nonstop 48 hour event doesn’t make much sense. I can understand being tilted and complaining about lag in the moment, but when you actually agreed to the server ahead of time it’s kinda dumb to keep bringing it up. Stuff like people getting ddosed is a very valid issue to raise. Both sides have sweats and casuals. Both sides had streamers with big egos. There were some rule issues with both sides, but rage quitting an event that took months of planning for some people is still extremely stupid and immature. It’s especially stupid when admins offered to give you weapons and resources for the final raid, and when it was legitimately still winnable. Team spain wasn’t prepared for a 48 hour straight event. Rust is still an extremely difficult game to have as an esport.

[@Dario-uj6qo]

I can't see how different time zones don't matter when most of the events (or boxes, I don't remember what it was exactly) where drop in NA time, wheater it's a 48 hours competition or not it is still a huge advantage for them. Also about the end I think you missed the point, it wasn't about winning, it was about them feeling mistreated and treated unequaly, if they really really wanted to win they could have continued (for what I know there was still a chance for them) and even have spent as much time playing as NA, they just wanted to have fun and due to how things were they didn't feel motivated, id someone in a event feels that they is made fun of over and over again, would you blame them for being done with that? Bringing them weapons and etc... didn't really help because is not what that wanted, they wanted the same treatment

[@koriduu]

@@Dario-uj6qo the crates were at inhuman hours for NA, one was at like 4 or 5am eastern, that's closer to a Spain favored time drop, and there were 2 crates left after that drop. Very disingenuous cop out from a 48 hour straight event.

[@Dario-uj6qo]

@@koriduu I don't know about the other crates, but the ones in "Spain's time" weren't at a good time either due to them being too early for us, I guess streamings in NA are different but here almost no one streams that soon (in fact most likely the streamers are still asleep at said hours) but far later in the evening. Ah yes, you could argue that they could have woke up earlier un the morning, but the same could be said about NA, also they would have almost no viewers and wouldn't be able to organize with the latam streamers

[@koriduu]

@@Dario-uj6qo LAT streamers are the similar time zone as NA, with Spain being 6-9 hours ahead. The difference being, some NA streamers were on for the whole 48 hours, for the rivals event, choosing to not sleep, to try and gain advantages in the rivals competition. There were very few positive interactions between the different factions, a lot of the complaints came from Ricoy with very childlike demeanor throughout the entire event.

[@Dario-uj6qo]

@@koriduu yes, latam has a similar time, but they are a few, so only a handfull of streamers would be able to be there in oposition with all of the NA team, wich is a disadvantage. About the fact that they chose to play/grind far more time it dosen't matter, in fact none of us care, that they win because they compite harder? Then great, congratulations, you deserve it. It was never the point, the thing is that the crates being generally more closer to their times is a clear advantage weather they play more or not, if they chose to play the same time as, let's call it Ñ team, they would still have an advantage, it is not about winning or losing, it is about having the same opportunities, and they did not, weather NA chose to make more use of it by playing more or not, they weren't at the same conditions, that's the point. And about Ricoy the only thing that I saw was him saying retard, wich was out of context, for what I've seen this word is a bit of a taboo over there when here it's the other way around, here it dosen't have that impact and it is use far more, basically it was the same that saying "are you dumb?", here it has the same meaning, also it is worth noting that he said that after things that NA were saying in chat and after hours and hours of confrontations

[@Dai1lest]

All in all it was overall fun time to watch so shout out to Toast for even thinking about this and giving alot of people content and gave some light to new international streamers...Toast deserves ♥️ 💜

[@Perdido0]

To be fair it’s opposite some of those international streamers he gave light have 50-100k viewers

[@fouzman]

The first Twitch Rivals where X wasn't the most toxic participants

[@mr.z647]

Shout out to Dilzanto (?) Nemereth and Nia from the Spain team that is super chill with NA streamers. Hjune interactions with them were a wholesome pure content

[@Ghoul-ku3mi]

even if it was a complete unfair game , which it was not for sure , One should never quit a event that took 200+ hours of efforts and resources of at least 200 people , it was one of the best event idea i have ever seen in twitch rivals too a team quit. for what they typed in global chat they should have been DQed long before that, hope that twitch never forget how good the event was when it lasted,

[@zayoswa]

Be careful, something needs to be clarified, the Spanish streamers with the highest numbers had to leave, not for rage, but because in the country they live: Andorra. the internet is constantly hacked. (sounds like a joke but it's true lmao) things are very confusing on twitch rivals

[@rpnp2]

That's an exaggeration if I ever heard one. The admins set up a bad competition, all the rules and aggravations could of been easily avoided from the beginning with mods that already readily available. There's live servers right now that are similar set up to avoid the issues from the competitors complaining the entire time.

[@rrrangelgm5504]

@@zayoswa The thing about Andorra is true but only about 5 people left for that reason and the others left because I don't know that they are human beings and that they need to sleep, eat and stuff? Not like the flawed ones from NA who even made it extensible because they were going to be playing full hours

[@rrrangelgm5504]

It's not safe says LUL It shows that you need information and watch clips

[@Teleinyer]

I'm sorry you think like that, it's just that Spanish streamers are used to a much higher quality of events. PD: 200+ hours and at least 200 people? BIG BIG HUGE CAP, Alexby, Rubius and some others have organized bigger and better events than this Twitch Rivals and for sure they did not took the resources of 200 people.

[@dembele2165]

ill be honest i never really thought i would watch toast but after the whole event and watching him, i got to say i actually really like this guy as a person and like his stream. doesnt wanna argue but just plays the game and trys to keep his audience happy

[@joshpota8581]

The funny thing is Spain started using revolvers first that's how NA figured out you can use them lol

[@Coilzz]

Cap you dint look at the streams

[@tito-gunch]

No bro, fue al revés, los españoles las empezaron a usar pq los NA las usaron primero crack

[@vincentvincent7004]

@@tito-gunch ur racist and ur wrong lol,Spain raided NA with shotguns so they figured out that revolvers could be used aswell because they are both guns

[@vincentvincent7004]

@@Coilzz no u didnt look

[@zCopyCatz]

Imagine your have a race, the race is 7 days long, you can travel at night, everything is own time own target, but you complain about others "racing" while you sleep.

[@kishiyami3160]

The timezone thing shouldnt have been a problem, the spanish team could've a 100% said "Oh we dont like that" since the whole event was already listening to their complaints anyways. And yeah maybe the rules did have some problems, but its not like twitch has done a rust tournament anyways. And the way the spanish handled the situation was kinda immature ngl. Like even XQC wasnt as toxic as the people on their team

[@gurdeep0407]

X was just chilling, gambling lol, my favourite moment was when he said in front of Abe "We need Nat" because the chest were not arranged properly and he didn't know that she's Abe's fiance X was so funny the entire time that you wouldn't even know there was so much drama 😂

[@sheenapatricio2418]

The entire event is within the course of 48 hrs, sure the actual broadcasting of the rivals was not the best time for them but it doesn't end there, the NA team went complete degen mode and a lot of them stayed for like 20+ hrs farming, guarding the base etc

[@sedmidivka]

@@sheenapatricio2418 and what is the issue with that? there were few degens within NA, you can't find that many degens within 40 people in Spanish team to do the same? are you trying to tell me that actual gamers have to sleep at night and can't stay for the event? I saw many Spanish players play during NA hours, certainly NA had to fight for the loot. so I guess you're just pissed cause your favourite streamer was crying because the victory was not handled to them after crying hard and rage quiting

[@rrrangelgm5504]

@@sedmidivka Dear person, with the respect that each person deserves, I tell you that your comment is out of place. I also don't see anything wrong with the NA team playing for 24 hours, the problem is just when there are no more than 5 Spaniards on the server. boxes put everything to earn points and the question is why not put it when they are all connected???

[@sheenapatricio2418]

@@sedmidivka I am not sure but I think you misunderstood me. I am with NA team, they were very determined to win and the best players saw this opportunity to do a subathon. Even the farmers, it's a huge shame that they gave up their sleep just for the enemy team to withdrew completely in the middle of the game.

[@DavidGonzalez-sm3yu]

Honestly everything in the tweet felt like it was directed to all NA and their streamers and fanbases rather than the admins which they probably had the most problems with.

[@coryw3339]

he was complaining about revolvers? on day one when people were just joining the server fresh there was already a spanish dude on a horse in the NA base running around murdering people with a nail gun, and then the spanish were doing heli drops with nail guns on random NA farmers.

[@01TacocaT10]

Bruh those tweets just sound salty asf. Im trying to find reason in the tweets, but to me it sounds like “we dont know how to play the game and we have language and timezone barriers” even though NA players have as much timezone and language barriers. If I missunderstood this please let me know and explain, but it sounds like a lot of whining.

[@johngrimm2074]

A bit of whining, and some bit about not wanting drama.

[@SirMisterFox]

@@johngrimm2074 They are spanish streamers, they LIVE on drama

[@peternguyen670]

I thought the tweets weren’t really salty and I thought the guy was just saying the thought of his fellow streamers until he said the thing about not knowing what oceans were then I realized he prob was salty lol

[@pipipikarin]

like literally english is more common language so I think there will be more spainish that understand english (even if it's just for a bit) than US understand spainish.. so how can they make "language" an excuse :')

[@yaoshan5069]

@@pipipikarin i mean even if they dont understand english there is no way that translators were not provided

[@Chibichuann]

Tbvh this was my first time watching a Rust stream and I enjoyed it relly much, i slept and when I wake up there are ppl still streaming I love it. I genuinely enjoyed it. The only thing I hate abt it is that the opposing team isnt putting up a great fight like it seems like they just gave up and be toxic. Very unfortunate.

[@Cenowy]

I wish we can see how many hours each player spend on the whole event, both NA and Spanish

[@Dragon703]

The sad part about this whole event after watching this vid is that all the streamers who were invited from both NA and Spain are kinda like the pro to semi-pro streamers and watching attitude like this from the Spanish team's part is some what sad as they literally went through a loss of respect from the audience not only in their own regions but worldwide... At the end of the day, everyone tries to host an event as best as they could but its really unprofessional of you and your team to drag things and admins which transpires in a game to social media and call them illiterate gamers who have no idea of the real world and try to paint a picture where you are the victim and your opponent is toxic where in reality, many of your own teammates are also acting toxic in the server.

[@superarturox1]

You wouldn't see the problem even if you weren't in front of it.

[@SanDiego357]

@@superarturox1 bro please, i speak spanish and was watching everything from both side, and rules were broken on both sides, but only the spanish cried about, spanish started saying NA was racist, not one racist thing was said, but CoconutB and hjune were getting spanish speakers in their chat telling them to eat dogs cuz they're asian. Spanish compained that NA were getting stuff when the were sleeping, but the torunament is literally set to overlap the difference so that the spanish could do the same when NA was asleep, NA still were staying up to farm and hit it had while the spanish didnt bother doing that, shit the spanish players were killing each other to get guns off of each other.

[@superarturox1]

@@SanDiego357 Literally, the Spanish team couldn't do the same when the US team was mostly sleeping. Since the boxes have been removed and they've all been put on US time, I'm not going to snowball with someone who doesn't want to see the big picture. I literally do not defend that the Spanish team did everything well, but I would like to know what would have happened if everything was upside down and the Americans played with lag, with injustice and that in general the twitch community does not value them. welcome to the real world

[@markleepier4794]

@@SanDiego357 finally a sane comment that i read throughout the day.

[@usernamealreadytaken9330]

@@superarturox1 Yeah sure, the last battle admin literally gonna spawn a gears for Spanish team to raid NA base, they accepted and then don't show up again. And when NA team want to at least use the boom to raid Spanish base which all the doors been removed to blow off some steam, the Spanish team have audacity to rejected it. I'm not saying NA was not in the wrong but walked out the event is disrespect the admins and organisers is not a right decision.

[@Jyang.11]

Throwing out the “Unfair NA Server” excuse after agreeing on it LiKe 👀 Did Spain just say NA cheated but in many whining salty words without the word “cheated” 😂 I was watching Toast at 1am before he left & there was like a player calling him & the others out for “stream sniping” bc they killed him 🤣 Dude wrote in chat “how did they find me so quick” & they responded “We were in the air on the water doing scouting” & then he just got angrier to where he started calling for the admin 😂😂 toast was on horseback tho which was a great find on tracking him

[@jaykimlevin4550]

That's just too funny LOL

[@Coilzz]

When did they agree 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Jyang.11]

@@Coilzz Toast just said they agreed on the server arrangement & didn’t complain about it till the end (when they quit)

[@ChrisB_1982]

@mcgucket When they signed the contract to play the event...lol

[@YourMasta]

@@Jyang.11 Toast also said he had no say so. How can he agree and also have no say so? I’m legit confused by this

[@ailuree]

The thing is Toast doesn't actually know everything about this. There's something outside of the story. I was stream hopping and heard some of the others who's the other team was trying to say RULE BREAKER. They were saying that like as if they're the only one who suffered and just doing the same thing NA does. They already forgot the first 4 hours of them just breaking the rules and yep. In the end, they're just trying pity themselves and cry. They give up and have no sportsmanship. They made this FUN game a TWIG RIVALS and there chat's racism is hopping all over the NA sides streams. Glad that NA team have fun despite these dramas. Well, they play to have fun unlike the other team who act like as if it's a labor.

[@lzyizyy6020]

He does know, but as the organizer, he has to look at it objectively. He mentioned there are some things he can say, and some things he can't. His teammates, on the other hand like, mendo and coco are free to- speak the things he can't say. And they've been very vocal, which we love to see.

[@zzhari7901]

The first twitch rivals I actually enjoyed. GGs team toast

[@Coilzz]

Could have been better if rules were laid out in a meeting, and the Spanish would have won because they had better players and more strategic.

[@Elem3ntal_]

@@Coilzz toast said they went over all the rules and everyone agreed and said they were okay so idk sure both sides had different interpretations but the rules were there

[@krobathy2178]

@@Coilzz strategic in forfeiting the NA favored crates since they need sleep and don't fight for the Spain Primetime crates since the first 2 were in NA timezones? If they don't put in the effort and then baby rage and hold the event hostage there's nothing you can do

[@ChrisB_1982]

A straight 48 hour event. Spain- "ThEy have a unfair time zone advantage". Might be the most brain dead excuse I've ever heard. LMFO

[@tito-gunch]

La razón de peso q se da es la del incumplimiento de las normas por parte de NA y la inactividad de los admins ante estas acciones no permitidas ;)

[@ChrisB_1982]

@@tito-gunch no idea what you said. But please tell me your not trying to say the NA some how had a time advantage

[@MauriceBastion]

@@ChrisB_1982 How hard is for your to use a translator? We have to use it every time we don't understand something xD Geez, this people is lazy

[@ChrisB_1982]

@@MauriceBastion well my original statement was in English. Why cant they respond in English? Obviously could read and understand what i wrote. It would be one thing if i was responding to a post that was in Spanish. Then it would be my responsibility to translate it.

[@bigbird4481]

@@ChrisB_1982 here's a google translate of what they said "The compelling reason given is that of non-compliance with the rules by NA and the inactivity of the admins in the face of these non-permitted actions ;)"

[@ramza1902]

this was planned since january, if they have the balls to quit mid event then they should have the balls to speak up any problem on their side before the event.. smh

[@mclovin6537]

This is why toast is a leader. Don’t bash other people. But look at it from different sides and logically without losing composure. I mean lol he has lost composure before for sure “give me your left nut” loool. But this guy for the most part tries to analyze arguments from different angles even ones that goes against his own.

[@BollamETorBap]

Wasn't the whole lobby laughing when he said that, including ninja, that kind of funny moments would not have happened if people just left the lobby like the Spanish side (Not LATAM)

[@lzyizyy6020]

Facts

[@redwarrior2963]

I don't watch toast, but I understand the pain he's been dealing with in the event

[@trayvixk4642]

Toast could barely play the game because he kept getting calls from admin because Spain was complaining about something. I think he was happy to see the clips of his team having some fun moments cause his got interrupted a lot.

[@box1924]

Not taking sides but since I don't know most of the streamers on Spain side so I mostly followed the NA streamers And the twitch rivals streams and to me the NA players gave their heart and soul in this. Dude they were literally streaming/playing continuously for 15-20 hrs for the past 2 days. So the time zone thing is not a logical argument. Hopefully we get more such events and that it doesn't end up this way. It was fun watching. I enjoyed nemerethtv's plays it was fire

[@jbcroos918]

Yeah, i follow some of the spain team and some of NA,the majority of spain team came from one server/series called egoland (alexby's server),and are pretty much casuals, twitch probably invited them for the populariy,because in no way this spain team can pickup a game 48hr when the majority of them stream only 4 to 10 hr daily and haven't taken a competitive experiencie of rust

[@dumbking4253]

are u guys idiots or what? wtf is wrong with u guys , I love NA but they fuck up ir , the admins clearly helped NA winning and give them every thing 2 achieve it ...and then u guys get mad bc they quit, Omg ....so cringe rly

[@username-du2er]

@@jbcroos918 oh god.... spain was doomed from the start.....

[@gratanrata6654]

when most of the NA streamer are Duolingo, but spain complain about language barrier.

[@CallumKL]

There will always be disadvantages in every game. But I don't complain. I solo queue in games. And it's definitely tough. You just have to man up and soldier on. Just try your best until the last second. Not just quitting the game and blame anyone else.

[@ORCaptain]

Much love! I hope they do another event with streamers who have more integrity and honor as they keep claiming.. it's sad to.see content creators refuse to make content due to egos and unjustified claims. Hopefully those who did participate can come back and much respect to them! Not all of the Spanish streamers quit and I saw many pleasant interactions between both factions.

[@Hakz379]

I noticed how Nemereth never complained and was fragging hard, good for him. Even ninjad one of the crates

[@DeathxStrike18]

Funny is the Twitch and Rust admins decided on East Coast Server because the Distance for players of EU and West coast would be the same though there would be some players closer the average distance of all players was that or the ocean.

[@cheenoucha8760]

Facts is NA didn't even do anything but they (spain) still manage to embarrassed themselves...

[@osheesh3151]

it's just sad that Toast really planned this with the devs/admin etc. and NA team really stream 24hrs, wendy stream 14hrs and 3hrs rest, they put a lot of effort in this. Timezones is stupid excuse. and language barriers is also stupid excuse (They have TL), I'm disappointed in this tournament really, if they choose a better opponent it will much better because NA dont mind if they lose or win as long as they know that they sweat and effort this game they don't mind tho. Hope they make it a tournament again but better opponent next time

[@erickpena8947]

Creó que hay que ver ambas perspectiva, o sea, desde la perspectiva de nosotros el evento le favoreció a usted (ustedes no tienen la culpa), pero desde la de ustedes no fue así.(Se tiene que ver desde una perspectiva neutral y ver ambas parte para sacar una conclusión más equivalente) Pd: Digo nosotros porque son español, pero veo cosas que ustedes tienen la razón y otras que no.(claro desde mi perspectiva)

[@pipipikarin]

@@erickpena8947 dude spainish team aren't even streaming and when they did stream, they delete the vod so that no evidence that they're breaking the rules... lol

[@erickpena8947]

@@pipipikarin Mmm, ese es principal problema que ambos lados sacan conclusiones a su conveniencia sin ver de antes manos el contexto de los demás. Pd: No defiendo a ningún de los dos lados, pero pienso que hay que ver el contexto de las cosas, con esto no quiero decir que no vaya hacer trampa o algo así(no sé lo pasó hoy,ya que me decantó el evento), pero los días que vi no lo hacían o se quejaban por los que la mayoría dice(si mencionan la zona horario, pero no es su principal queja ni' de lejos) Pd de pd: Con esto no quiero decir que ellos tenga la razón, sólo que investigue de ambos lados.

[@o.o9709]

@@erickpena8947 ok explain how NA cheated and how admin favoured NA. We have toast dissecting the arguments on stream where's your counter argument?

[@vincentvincent7004]

@@erickpena8947 its not about taking sides no matter what in the end you guys left after both teams broke rules and you guys complained the most NA just took it and kept playing

[@dabz9707]

bruh majority of these na streamers live on the west... With the server being east both sides are quite literally the same distance away lmaoooo id bet the ping was almost exactly the same.....................

[@tito-gunch]

Q mal llevas la geografía bro, decir q están a la misma distancia es de ser muuuy cazurro jajaja

[@dabz9707]

@@tito-gunch i think you need to look at a map

[@Kaozed]

Oil rig got disable because it was stupid easy to control, the fact that NA couldnt spam oil rig at first because of no heli, THEN when spanish team went to sleep oil rig wasnt spawning still because they had a rat at oilrig hidden just blocking the respawn....

[@kaharakahara]

when the going gets tough, Spain team walks away lol

[@reggiebleepeyes]

I think the spanish streamers who didn't show should not be compensated, since they felt the event was of little importance to them. Them getting paid further proves the point that the Twitch Rivals event was lowkey in their favor.

[@vortozan5395]

A 48 hour long server fight gives no benefit to either region. The server ping was slightly on the NA side, it was the best server they could pick and was agreed on. The server rules were layed out completely from the start and weapons your not allowed to use are literally disabled. I just don’t get it??? Why quit when the admins and the leader of the other time are doing there absolute hardest to ensure a fair and fun game? One of the admins was up for 20 hours straight listening to people shouting in his ear and the thanks he gets for all his hard work is the entire team quitting before the end????? It’s painfully disrespectful for the entire team to just up and quit. I hope next time an event like this happens those on the Spanish side man the hell up and play it till the end. It wasn’t unfair or biased against them, they just got mad over twig breaking, heli getting stolen far and square and letting their base get so much disrepair from neglect that they couldn’t handle losing and rage quit. I know they can do better, there are some dedicated players on the Spanish side. The fights were epic and the content was amazing! Show us your true colours Spanish Streamers! And to those streamers or viewers on either side who were racist or disrespectful (rude is fine, it’s rust there’s gonna be salt). Swallow your pride and apologise.

[@crimsoncash1051]

Toast being real professional in this situation cause I know some of his teammates were way more honest than he’s been cause it feels like a lot of excuse making from the Spanish team

[@tianacroaker7310]

Yeah. Kinda sucks he has to be more neutral in his wording because it’s primarily his event and he wants to do more twitch rival stuff in the future so can’t burn bridges. He handled this well though, especially on only 5hrs of sleep

[@matiasalejandromab]

If an event like this would happen again, i would like to see two different teams with random participants from both sides (with some manual adjustments, if there happens to be like 5 pro's in one team and the other team is full of new players). I think it would be way much healthier for the event and the individual streamers, and the language barrier would even be a kind of funny way to make content, like the clip of xQc playing fortnite and trying to speak spanish.

[@virus2339]

It leaves a bad taste watching the Spanish team ranting about all of this while almost everyone was trying to make it easier for the Spanish player. Not to mention that these people are not small streamers, they are well known in their respective communities. It just seems like a salty excuse coming from the Spanish team.

[@kayciewithie4941]

What the hell is all this bull man? Nah cause they decided to quit at the very end when it was certain they would lose. It hurt their pride I guess lmao

[@jonathanliu169]

Difference wasn’t time zones but rather NA has more degens willing to play for 24 hours straight xD

[@nogamingz2785]

The good thing is it did unite NA players

[@apexdude105]

I play Apex Legends from LATAM on NA servers. Maybe I'm just used to it (my average ping is 120ms-150ms), but you can work with my ping difference as long as my game doesn't lag or affect my movement.

[@senakiraheap7455]

Why Alexby tweets so much? Look at toast gameplay, 20k vs 5k, I see why.. salty

[@xKrave13]

They spent too much time on twitter than playing the game. That's why its 20k vs 5k.

[@demoth]

According to toast they spent more time talking to the admin than actually playing. He was drag into the meeting 7 times in 3 hours.

[@pokecat8982]

@@demoth and as xqc said they still had a chance to win Spanish claim to be the better fps players and the end raid was the most important so they could have stacked up and raided the usa team in a 40 v 40 with 1 life each and if they won that they would insta won the event.

[@lauprayer3808]

Twig Rivals is a meme for spanish forever.

[@trayvixk4642]

The fact that they quit the game but still didn't want NA to raid their base pretty much sums up how childish things got. It sucks because of Twig Rivals, I don't think any of those Team Spain streamers will ever be invited to an event because they kept quitting and one of the players dropped the R word. Wouldn't be surprised if everyone avoids a Team Spain matchup in any gaming event.

[@The_Howling_Wolf_ADAM]

And all the racist comments towards NA players, espacially asian hate ...was really disgracefull ! I actually think team spain should have been removed sooner and let new NA players try to fight team toast.

[@LightKagerou]

Is there clips of this? Cuz to my understanding the Spaniards deleted their vods and now their viewers are defending them saying "oh no they not racist u racist"

[@mzwethu3805]

@@LightKagerou you would only delete vods to hide the truth

[@erickr.8977]

@@LightKagerou Dude you answered your own question. Why would they delete vods if they didn't have anything to hide?

[@LightKagerou]

@@erickr.8977 dude I was asking if someone grabbed anything from them before they deleted the vods.

[@erickr.8977]

@@LightKagerou Of course I mean if you stayed in Toast's Chat or Abe's chat they had clips of everything going on as well when people from España's team started accusing the American team like X, Hjune, Coconut and alot of other's of meta gaming their Community went all in about catching the Spanish cheating.

[@i.k.9140]

Dude there are spanish rust pro's on twitch that are not in the event, if they only invited the spanish pro's i think they could have given a fair show

[@chazes1]

This whole drama will be my 2022 meme..

[@zacharygilliland10]

you can tell toast is completely exhausted in this, pretty sad that a fun event like this caused this much stress.. props to Toast and really NA for showing sportsmanship and a lot of maturity towards a bunch of childish, irrelevant behavior. glad this event happened, sad to see the way it ended.

[@yohannsebastian3307]

What happened to the points did the spanish team give up? Cause the last time i saw a video about this the spain were leading 5k and 4k to NA did they just gave up? Can someone explain i don’t really watch streams that much but I’m curious

[@killua6896]

Team toast won by 20k+ points lmao

[@cjpe2265]

20k to 5k 😂😂😂

[@Elem3ntal_]

Na did lots of the base raids and they got the next 3 crates like at early morning like 2-6 am which put them up 10k - 5k and Spain kinda started quitting since they couldn’t camp oil rig and could not beat na at the crates. Then na kept doing raids and another crate and stocked up 9k dog tags in a box so when it was a few hours left they cashed them in putting them to 20k

[@xKrave13]

Spain spent too much time on twitter and complaining to admins instead of playing the game. That's why they lose.

[@demoth]

Didn't watch the whole thing but everytime I turn on Buddha and sykkuno, they were getting destroy. I think Spanish lost cause they rage quit, they were leading majority of the first day and early 2nd day.

[@Regent192]

Sykkuno keeps getting killed by animals though

[@DMTgamezone]

Some of the biggest spanish streamers were forced to leave because of a DDoS attack on their internet tho, like Rubius, Ibai and some more, since they all live in Andorra which is basically a town of streamers, when the attack happened a ton of them left and later didn't feel like coming back cause the attacks kept happening. It isn't the first time they get attacked during a Twitch Rivals event either, but yeah.

[@cmloreo3010]

@@DMTgamezone and you believe this? Hahahaha

[@demoth]

@@DMTgamezone 40 people ddos? .....

[@ajesus2490]

@@cmloreo3010 tbf it's not the first time that it happens to them. I'm pretty sure some of them actually rage quitted, but they were doing an event a few months ago and something similar happened. I still couldn't see them winning even without the DDoS thing and the rage quitters, so it's GGs for NA anyway.

[@xteamxsupremex]

They should have representatives from each side hash all the details out and then relay the info to the teams. When players get involved in rule making it gets a little… biased? Anyway have the reps deal with it so the players can just play. Also no more drops from admins even if ur trading in for a skin XD

[@ethylz7094]

Its not like they got pulled in the event without them knowing. So they just decided to join a 40 vs 40 streamers 48hrs event and then complain about the language barrier and time zone after the event start?

[@mynamejeff4883]

I stayed up wayyyyy too late watching a lot of this event and some of what those tweets said were flat out crap. The spanish team started off spawm killing then the whole revolver and python thing was goofy. I was watching when the accusations started flying and the admins were asked for clarification as soon as the complaining started. The person they accused of using the python first was not even at the monument they claimed it happened at and the admins flat out approved pythons. I heard the entire team yelling to not use them if anyone had up until the admins approved their use. The whole "press" thing was distracting and suss as hell. The spanish team were camping crate spawns as well. There were a couple of people that seemed to be toxic players on Toasts team but most of the accusations against his team are just wrong. I admittedly dod not watch it ALL because who could, and it is impossible to watch everyone at once but you could hear most of what was going on through voice chat anyway. There were some viewers that started trying to meta-game and were called out immediately even by the resy of chat. Blooprint even went as far as changing his chat setting to keep people that were not established followers and trusted from even being able to post comments. From the beginning almost the spanish team were complaining, so their behavior does not really surprise me that much but quitting does. That should be actionable by the organizers. Any time you get that many differemt people and different personality types together you are guranteed to have a couple of shitheads, but the vast majority were doing their best to not only play right, but also hold eachother accountable.

[@liammilne2242]

Same bud, I watched well over 20hrs of this event all live. I sadly missed the last day as I was traveling. I’m a viewer from the EU side (UK) and was watching multiple NA streams as I’m not spanish speaking. Anyway, I thought all and all it was a fun event! I thought admins had it rough… There were many things that didn’t cross their mind as being an issue, such as the beginning with the wooden base being breakable by simple retaliation of shots. I do get the python situation being a lil weird. Hjune one of the rust pros on NA side kept on saying that himself too, but the admins confirmed it was approved multiple times before they used them. Not to mention that as you said, nobody at oil rig even had a python 😅 Then I had just missed the part later on when spain did the illegal raid way deeper than 2 doors on NA base, but that was another fiasco. For some reason on the compromise NA had to give up the heli even though they won it fairly… It was kinda downhill from there as spain seemed to be kinda salty then on. It’s a shame since spain did start so well and it seems like the wood tactics being a lil cheeky on top of just the complaints then on, they kinda gave up playing and just went with the drama route.

[@xsael8501]

I was out of the loop but this whole thing seems like a bad idea. Nothing in this whole event was fair to begin with, the "NA team" played rust before and even had "Rust pros", the Spanish team wasn't in on the Rust meta before so I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and seemed like they played the game "how is it suppose to". This whole event expected to be competitive was online and not LAN, ofc there's going to be complaints. On top of dividing the teams according to language and culture, ofc the subject of "racism" is going to seep in (because "culturism" isn't a word so theyre going to use racism). "NA community" is complaining that the "Spanish community" is complaining. Like what? Ya'll the same.

[@Fyre11]

@@xsael8501 The Spanish streamers had plenty of good players, they just didn't commit any real effort, so they lost in the later stages. Spain demanded rules be made on the spot, then broke those rules when they got inconvenient for them. And there wasn't anything that was directed at them for being Spanish, it was them being whiners and hypocrites. If they view whining as being a Spanish stereotype, they need to grow up. Half the complaints in those tweets are things the Spanish did first, had it returned on them, and complained about to admins to make it a rule. The clips that people are using to accuse NA of admin favouritism are from after Spain gave up and the admins just wanted to give viewers something fun to watch, so they gave out items to use.

[@ArgusBlack21]

This is unfortunately why you don't have a rust twitch rivals. Honestly when I saw it going on I was like hmm Rust, that ended well when OfflineTV had their servers, I am sure this will go completely smooth with no issues.

[@SleepingWanagi]

I heard they deleted their vods, is this related to that? I didn't watch the event, only seen clips of it.

[@adamluciferr]

i think spanish streamers did something against the rules and then deleted the vods but na streamers let that slide because they would quit again 😂

[@brygs767]

@@adamluciferr i think they did stuff more related to TOS than the event. They said shit that they might normally say in their streams but gets looked over because of how many eyes can see it.

[@demoth]

They raided NA main base while they were asleep and that wasn't allow but I think they deleted their vod because of racist stuff was thrown out. Someone told one of the NA Asian player to eat dog and shit. Was getting pretty weird

[@macarojulian]

i dunno what you mean, most vods are still up(most deleted vods had to do with tos violations)

[@nikkiminajj47]

We needed ironmouse to overcome language barriers lmao

[@vincentvincent7004]

She would get cussed out for "siding" with the "americans"

[@runeloreaus]

Can anyone please help? What is ocean?

[@killerfail6980]

Ngl clippers are having great time for this drama, because they have new content. No offense to clippers 😁

[@nightkore6756]

i feel like there was lack of communication, i guess spanish streamers didnt know much about rust this competitive? like when they played they did it more lighthearted and their main objective was to create content and not grind. I feel like alexby should have spoken up way sooner about the problems like time zone, the supposed bad translator and how the hispanic communty is used to playing. None of this is toast's fault and they are not being professional about all this, a real shame

[@xKrave13]

Dude, some of those spanish streamers are pros in Rust. Many of them have 10k hrs spent in the game. They know how the game works. They're just cry babies when things doesn't go their way.

[@gehabe8235]

The server problem and the time zone problem were things that they knew way before the event begin. Complaining about it after the even began is just ugh.

[@tito-gunch]

@@xKrave13 se quejan cuando el equipo de NA se salta las normas y los admins no hacen nada, es comprensible

[@xKrave13]

@@tito-gunch lol are you kidding? everytime the spanish streamers complain, the admins always compromise just so they would not quit as long as the spanish team doesnt get a huge advantage. even at the end, the admins are willing to give the spanish team all the gears they want to raid NA but they still quit. EDIT: And what rule did the NA team break that the spanish team did not break already? You're talking like the spain did not break the rules first. This is why the spanish streamers are deleting their vods because they have something to hide.

[@vincentvincent7004]

@@tito-gunch stop being a racist and learn facts kids, its clear u guys were being racist and rulebreaking

[@Elleozito]

did he saw the X reply?

[@devlinrowe3437]

Loved the NA guys. They were all hanging out and fighting as a unit. The spanish ones were super annoying though.

[@jezzc2535]

Ping is a bs excuse in rust, you just need to play to your advantages, if it was that bad then you would never find people from other regions on European servers and visversa.

[@dottedline4962]

Using revolver when primitive?? Boy spanish team used Double barrel and spawn camp..

[@apexdude105]

Does twitch rivals not post the rules BEFORE THE EVENT!??!? I just don't get how can you involve 80 people 40v40 and not even put out a comprehensive ruleset.

[@lzyizyy6020]

??? The event was being planned since January. The rules were available/made clear to both sides. They were just broken repeatedly- by one side, so they had to be adjusted (as what happens in first time events). Those adjustment, even tho agreed to by the spanish, is what led them to up and quit, along with other excuses.

[@tylerrobblee8038]

Its unfortunate because we could of taken turns hosting severs and made this a series

[@drakoaguirre5866]

Timezone is dumb realistically they both get 24 hours

[@demoth]

It a weird excuse. They don't need to kill to get points. Just objectives.

[@dr.arubata]

How much is the prize pool for winners and losers?

[@demoth]

They rage quit and abandon the event so assuming 0 for losers. 100k was the prize pool. I'm assuming most of that would be NA. Would be about 2.5k per person.

[@calizter5332]

After this i dont expect any content or colaboration with NA streamers, i hope NA side do the same.

[@Onepieceownz]

Why did he call some streamers degen? What does that mean?

[@akalilb187]

I mean they’re salty they took the ñ like it’s crazy how much the Spanish streamers got away with cheating they literally accused rayc of meta gaming where they were not even an hour in of Ray getting on and someone said one of the Spanish streamers admired to meta gaming the code of NA base to get xqc scrap

[@RhotenXxX]

Why ban weapons that are already in the game? Isn’t the game about seeing who works and get resources first to progress? If you log in and someone has a revolver doesn’t that mean that person worked for or found that revolver? I don’t get it!

[@saitama...4959]

I get you’re point but the point of the rules is to make it as fair as possible. Yeah, it doesn’t make it a true “Rust” experience but it kinda balances out most of the things. Imagine this: they are complaining about having to use primitive weapons, but then they used a revolver. They did complain about that, and the python and other stuff but imagine if we have this “Rust” Pro player’s especially People like Coco, Welyn, Hjune, etc. Who not only farm like crazy but also play non stop rust. They would have M2 at the start of the game while the Spanish rust pro players would have ak and the new people would be running around everywhere trying to at least survive. They would quit almost instantly and that wouldn’t make things “fun” and get good content for “everyone.” Thats why adding limitations and rules to a event like this is the best way for everyone to get content. Remember this isn’t your normal rust players these are content creators who search for content and dying over and over again is not fun for some, and balancing things out like making bases 15 by 15 and unbreakable while not being able to raid is the best option. Guns as well they are making it as fair as possible and they manage to do it and it was a quite fun event overall it had it’s flaws but at the end of the day everyone got their content. So in others words… They are content creators not normal players, so it means they search for content unlike the normal players. This event is about having fun and getting tons of content and playing by normal rust rules wouldn’t benefit everyone, but just the veteran rust players who would bully everyone. Edit: Hope this comment is able to clarify most of your confusion, and i hope we both don’t end up in a heated argument like most of the times in KZbin comments.

[@izzulirfan2984]

I get your point but they have 2 time period one Primitive and Modern, people like hjune eho played it for years could just get a Ak and wipe the whole team

[@Jomaro7]

Spanish team using f1 kill when they got cornered too , lool

[@xllWarlockllx]

NA players did the same, your point is?

[@onlyforkimjongin4945]

@@xllWarlockllx Hi! Do you know who in the NA team did this? Cause I was watching Toast when one of the participants from the other team did it.

[@lzyizyy6020]

@@xllWarlockllx where's your proof? u don't have any cuz most of them deleted their vods 💀

[@Tsuya.Alouette]

Iirc Buddha f1 killed at the beginning but it was a force of habit and he corrected it once he realized it's not something you can do. I did watch a player from Spain side f1 kill all the time during pvp. I don't think f1 kill to suicide when not in pvp is a big deal. It's just when you're pvp it's unfair.

[@AlexanderSama]

Soo what happened, Spanish streamers just rage quit? i didnt watch. auronplay and Alexby has done that b4, they're kinda known for that but i would be surprise if they all did

[@demoth]

Basically. They didn't even want to do the finale

[@Jyang.11]

Yeah they rage quit in the end. Toast had to go into so many meetings with the admins about the Spanish team’s sportsmanship. It was back & forth

[@Ahri0511]

finding the perfect server for 3 CONTINENTS is not that easy and you shouldn't really blame anyone for that ...

[@dancingchaos168]

So the truth is welp we can't know the full story cause most of spains Vods are gone so no we can't put a timeline on who did what and when to see who the real a hole is in this however I think its spain for 2 simply facts deleted vods (= guilt) and leaving a 48 hour event before its finished no matter the circumstances thats not ok unless your being belittled and degraded which i didn't see the N/A team do i did see spain do this to N/A though weather knowing the weight of the R word or not its still unacceptable to call someone stupid in this kind of setting. The fact they had not 1 but 2 rule changes to base raiding during the event is laughable should have never happened and only came after N/A followed the rules that they thought where set in place by spain. Honestly the whole event was a disaster and should have been handled way differently from the start as in commitment contracts to each team member, set in stone rules and more explained rules. From what I've seen and understand the base's werent supposed to be breakable by the opposing team so it wasn't a rule necessarily but a server setting that got fd up, the fact that this went so far and caused so much drama just plain sucks and it looks to me that one team came there to just shit on another while the other just came for the content but eh what do i know Latam will say im just a stupid american meh GFSF

[@olewgigig3408]

Damn Spanish be playing sheep right now😂

[@Val-lq6hq]

cool paragraphs, can i copy yours?

[@dinkerz]

I don’t think alexby communicated his grievances with grace in that thread. Disappointing but not surprising.

[@qobistar4]

Honestly toast idea for picking teams based on religion would be low key interesting content

[@Aimarru03]

what does degen mean?

[@Jyang.11]

Degenerate

[@Bullseyesongs]

Degenerates; people who don’t sleep during sleeping hours, and potentially sleeping at non-sleeping hours. 😅

[@Aimarru03]

@@Bullseyesongs thanks for the info

[@QueenAllTheWay]

I am not surprised. Isn’t Rust always that one game that creates drama?

[@kemasaulia9533]

Please tell me that captain from spain got banned from twitch rivals or from twitch it self

[@demoth]

They probably got blacklisted. I can't see admins wanting to deal w their BS again.

[@macarojulian]

@@demoth if they ban any streamer they would lose an the entire spanish community, i bet that wont happen

[@vincentvincent7004]

@@macarojulian from rivals they definitely would

[@elucified]

what a poignant way to end it. toast was looking forward to this for 3 months only for the spanish streamers to abruptly quit. no matter how you spin it, the spanish streamers were in the wrong.

[@its1374]

the spanish side abandon their material farmers. that's....... just sad.

[@ridoy7409]

If anything this event made me respect NA streamers community more...They put so much efforts and times in the event and in the end got told that spanish team rage quitted... Spanish team also pinned the blames on admins and NA teams with some of the stupidest accusation ever...But NA team also took it like a champ and didnt get angry at them (at least not in front of them)...Great gaming etiquettes from team Toast (unsurprisingly) and huge L to team Alexby (surprisingly)

[@EvanGeli0]

sorry but I would like to know why the accusations are silly or at least specify which ones

[@vincentvincent7004]

@@EvanGeli0 they say someone used a "python" which isnt allowed but the person they accused of using it wasnt even at the oil rig fighting They also accused admins of siding with NA when they complied with everything Spain asked for because they didnt want them leaving Also accused NA of being racist almost the whole time even though Alexby11 the leader said "n word??" (In conext calling them n words) Many of the spain twitch chatters spammed CoconutB and Hjune telling them to eat dogs because they were asian and yet they called NA racist throughout the event

[@gewidydr1118]

The fact that they are being racist and calling them racist is hilarious they must be projecting lmao

[@kimelsakc6499]

I dont even know what to say rn. Before coming to US and knowing Toast I watched the Spain community a lot (since I'm Hispanic) and I know that when it comes to video games and rust, rage is the main source of drama. I wont excuse tha Spain team because I know they are competitive and can get toxic and i also wont ask to understand them because it's on everyones nature to react when attacked. But in this case, knowing Alexby for a while, he was trying to make things work out, he would always hear complaints of his team about the US one and he tried to make it work, but they didn't act as expected. They know about the lag and server so they can't use it as excuse. HOWEVER, the language part I agree. Even though they know English its not their strength meaning they wont choose appropriate words (for me who learned in 4 years) and it will sound bad for Toast and the others. In addition, Toasts's team was also at fault for not confirming the usage of things with administration causing the "drama". They just assumed and didn't asked anything at all about the rules. What I'm trying to say it's that both were at fault in their ways but it needed more planning than given to just be a fun event. Its a shame it it didnt go as planned since it took so long, this could've united more cultures and stereotypes but it was rust after all.