4 yrs of being a machinist. I love this job so much. I wish I could get it over there.
@Land2020-w6w Жыл бұрын
Lee, thanks so much for showing how John does a crank. The expression on his face shows just what a real enginer is capable of. Many thanks, Dave in Guernsey.
@bobss37043 жыл бұрын
Well I never thought I would see another one of those machines in my life! Did my apprenticeship with Prince machines 1969 to 1974 at Park Rd Kingston, built countless numbers of them, best days of my life! Cheers from Australia ✌
@dougiebrown93182 жыл бұрын
I spent many years operating a Prince grinder on 4 & 6 cylinder Crankshafts on the Cranklines at Perkins Engine’s Peterborough.. Great machines
@kevinm65303 жыл бұрын
Watching that crank grinder brought me back to the 70s and 80s and my dad's engineering workshop... I can smell the cooling liquid pouring down on the metal. Thanks so much 🙂🙂
@geoffoliver67883 жыл бұрын
As someone else said, the smell of the grinding coolant etc is unreal, my late great Father had three of those "Prince" grinders. Watching him re-stroke bent bus cranks for a Kent based bus company was unbelievable. I dont know if you are interested but I do have his "Hall Toledo valve seat grinder" with around a dozen guides sitting in my garage.
@jackking55673 жыл бұрын
Rarely seen footage is always good to see. Back in the day I would take motorcycle cylinders to a local engine works to get them re-bored. Turnaround for me was less than an hour! I knew they worked hard at getting my job turned around so quickly but this channel puts it all into context. There's no doubt you're providing a great service to folk.
@laser-sj3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how you grind the rod big ends on the crank. 😁
@DeeJayEll3 жыл бұрын
What Simon said. 👍
@hartshut3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdean514 easier said than done. We still want see it.
@keithknowles17003 жыл бұрын
Yes a bit of a cop out I think! As a time served Engineer I can see that grinding the main journals is fairly straightforward. I too would like to see the set up for grinding the big end journals, how to set the throw etc.
@1brokenspoke1893 жыл бұрын
@@keithknowles1700 The grinding stone pulls forward on these machines and then moves back and forth as the crank turns following the big end bearing and its offset. You do not have to reposition the crank in the chuck its the grinding stone that moves and follows the big end bearing .
@1magnit3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdean514 It depends on the machine. Some do it that way, others don't
@lelandlewis7207 Жыл бұрын
When I was grinding, we had a dial indicator fixture that went over the journal to show the size as it is ground. We took it to .002 and checked size, then the last .002 plunge ground and slip the stone across the journal to make a flat surface. Polishing was done with a belt polisher; I have never seen a beast of a polisher like yours. lol I ran a Berco but when I went for my college term for the apprenticeship they had a Van Norman. It could have been a bad situation because the traverse wheel works differently on a Van Norman. On the Berco, if you turn the wheel left, the crank moves left, and right if you turn it to the right. With the Van Norman, you turn the wheel left, the crank moves to the right. lol You had to think of the direction the wheel head would move in relation to the crank on the VN, so left on the wheel would move the wheel left. (crank right) I really had to stop and think before traversing the crank, because, after a year on the Berco, the wrong direction was my first inclination. One student did make that mistake and broke the grinding wheel with the machine running. The whole damn machine was bouncing off the ground with a 3' wheel spinning at high speed with a chunk out of it. The lucky part was that the piece didn't hit anyone as it flew out and across the shop at 40 MPH or so. 😳
@colinweir58073 жыл бұрын
As a fitter/ machinist for 45 years I only ever operated a cylindrical grinder a few times but never on crank shafts. Takes a great deal of skill and that's a very interesting final polishing tool. I also like that your machines have quite a few miles on them.
@stephensaines71003 жыл бұрын
John's work is a real grind.
@Jester-Riddle3 жыл бұрын
I guess it's a change from boring ... 😂
@chrisadams74893 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a Prince in action again, started my engineering career on one, back in 1977. I was apprenticed to an engine reconditioners at 16 and learnt my trade on Ford, Vauxhall & BMC engines mainly 👍
@NorciaGraceBouana Жыл бұрын
I have this machine right Now I would like to know how to fully understand this. Also I have à missed pieces to Work on magneton
@philread4153 жыл бұрын
I used A machine similar to this about 25 years ago. We had A dial gauge set up while grinding the mains to check for ovality, we also had A centre on the tailstock end instead of A chuck. When grinding the big ends I take it that the wheel follows the the offset of the journal rather than offsetting the crank? Thanks for the video it's bought back many memories like being pi$$ed off if someone near by dropped something heavy while I was on A finishing cut !
@jostouw43663 жыл бұрын
At the top of the wheel are the two pads that hook onto the journal making a off set angle so it forms a round pin it is mounted to the grinding wheel so that follows it through the stroke.
@deanage19833 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the process with us. Very time consuming process keep the videos coming
@Simon-ui6db3 жыл бұрын
Who needs a CNC when the brain can do it. Nice to see more work coming in for you guys.
@LuckyBaldwin7773 жыл бұрын
This is an even year, so it's an IMTS year. That's the International Manufacturing Technology Show. It happens even years in Chicago and is the biggest machine tool show in the world. This year it's September 12 to 17. Last time I went, there were more than 2500 exhibitors and people attended from 117 countries. To get a good look at the whole show, I'd recommend 3 days, minimum. It's that big. Go to one and you'll learn the answer to "Who needs a CNC?"
@LuckyBaldwin7773 жыл бұрын
This is an even year, so it's an IMTS year. That's the International Manufacturing Technology Show. It happens even years in Chicago and is the biggest machine tool show in the world. This year it's September 12 to 17. Last time I went, there were more than 2500 exhibitors and people attended from 117 countries. To get a good look at the whole show, I'd recommend 3 days, minimum. It's that big. Go to one and you'll learn the answer to "Who needs a CNC?"
@waynep3433 жыл бұрын
I prime my engines with the ignition disabled. Or diesel stop position verified or the injector tube nuts loose. With the oil filter off a crank the engine till I get oil fro. The filter mount. The screw the empty oil filter on and crank another 10 seconds. I have used the shop vacuum on the oil filter mount to pull oil from the pan up and thru the pump. Thought I would drop a few tips.
@davecooke9143 жыл бұрын
Great video watching John keep up great work 👍
@nexpro69853 жыл бұрын
That looks like a Lister startomatic genny. A friend of mine had one. It could start itself by sending 12volts through the windings.
@martinandersson10493 жыл бұрын
What a craftmanship! I for myself only have very basic skills with the lathe and the milling machine. So I do appreciate the "know how" that must be involved in this task. Question: What tolerances is applicable when grinding cranks? Say for instance that you would be doing a regrind for a +10 bearing.
@PhilG9993 жыл бұрын
One of my most memorable "NOT Warranty" (so many of them) diagnoses when I was in the Diesel business (Deutz USA) was a broken crankshaft out of a BIG engine. Mind you these engines had a one-year warranty, as many hours as you could put on them. This crank had clearly been stick welded up and reground. I mean the weld porosity was horrendous! Whoever did it also used US/Imperial grinding wheels instead of the correct metric ones. They double radiused every journal on that crank (hence the breakage from stress concentration)! Two other notable gotchas were they used standard size bearings where a normal regrind on a good crank would be one undersize. Actually, a third gotcha was the factory would only fit a good crank during assembly with ONE rod or main journal undersized (otherwise the crank would be rejected) and in 8 years I never saw an engine come in done that way. Showed my boss (also a Mechanical Engineer) and we both had a good laugh over it. Man, the crap people would try to pass off as warranty would fill a book! So told the customer no Warranty and he went ballistic! Threatening to sue, etc. (like we didn't get THAT all the time). Finally pointed out to him that the engine had been in service (per the service records) for THREE YEARS! You've heard of the book "How things work"? I could write one called "How stupid idiots FU Diesel engines"! ;)
@trevormansfield67403 жыл бұрын
Really good video. Never seen it done
@Mrflash2220063 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the old boys in their brown/green workshop coats standing at the machines at our local shop what’s now gone, 50% of the machines went to scrap 😔
@jeffboyer82143 жыл бұрын
Busy is good 👍. Be safe team.
@AhadBagalzadeh Жыл бұрын
Very good
@alexanderduncan43022 жыл бұрын
The weak point on the pinto is the camshaft spray at !🏴
@algerC23003 ай бұрын
Where can I find the factory manual in the crank shaft
@ronosga43912 жыл бұрын
How about showing the crank balancing process.
@chrisparkinson29923 жыл бұрын
Really interesting videos guys, keep it up. Quick random question if you could help, I saw you using some high temp sealer in another video for fitting liners and wondered where you got it? Can’t find it online👍🏻
@algerC23003 ай бұрын
How much does it decrease each time
@waynep3433 жыл бұрын
What brand and model number are the crank polishing jack pliers.
@COM703 жыл бұрын
Sorry to ask a stupid question!! I have a 2007 discovery 3, 2.7 tdV6. I hear the cran bearings are prone to premature wear and spinning. Is there an aftermarket solution (better bearings etc ) and is it a job you do or would be interested in ? Thanks 🙏 I’m considering refreshing the engine before disaster strikes.
@Hydrogenblonde3 жыл бұрын
Did the turkey even put oil in the lister?
@miceinoz11813 жыл бұрын
Interesting for sure. Question: do you and John do all machining tasks or do you divvy it up between you, ie he does all the cranks, you do the heads etc etc? Or is it just as simple as what you each enjoy doing the most at the time?
@empireengineeringworks46922 жыл бұрын
Nice video sir, but how do I contact you. I have some inquiries to make
@Jester-Riddle3 жыл бұрын
9:54 : Now that's what I call a Real Man's pair of Pliers ... !!! 😁
@larkehoe67163 жыл бұрын
subtle difference between someone doing a job and a craftsman.. here we see the latter...
@Jester-Riddle3 жыл бұрын
Must be an awful lot of detailed communication required to manage different engineers doing these tasks and builds ... and no doubt customers keep changing their minds, or parts supplied also ...
@stevenfalconer57973 жыл бұрын
Should we not have our sleeves rolled up?
@dougjenks69543 жыл бұрын
Been nice to see what the guy was looking at , not the side of crank.
@Andy-qo6rq3 жыл бұрын
Lister man stop moaning about the price and supply the correct parts then you don’t moan simply. Great video very busy workshop keep them coming 👍👍👍
@thewholls71763 жыл бұрын
Bugger me dead I didn’t realise They did it that way……
@acorndogs9043 жыл бұрын
Evening
@adriangriffiths58013 жыл бұрын
Would have been great to have the the operator talk us through what he was doing and most importantly why. The side angle shot was ok for a couple of minutes, but misses the interest for me.
@gren5093 жыл бұрын
About 100yrs behind current technolgy; You could have done this in the Dark Ages! Get on with things.
@steveg83373 жыл бұрын
You have some terrible background noise in your videos
@Mikemetalic3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you have the correct PPE for watching the videos with then. Engineering is noisy.
@bradanderson16273 жыл бұрын
WOW first 7 pluss min. Having to listen to someone who loves themselves talking ? Didn't make it to 8 mins. Won't be recommending this channel. 👎👎👎