Our Favorite Seiko Watches Under $500: Are the Flightmaster & Monster Diver Still King in 2023?

Today I'm joined by engineer turned watch entrepreneur Marc Frankel of Long Island Watch for an essential #WatchTalk episode all about Seiko, where we ask and answer: is Seiko still the best choice under $500 in 2023? In this month's watch chat we share our unique perspectives on the brand, our favorite Seiko watches, what we love about them, and why, plus our thoughts on Seiko's evolution, and its design history. We also discuss the watches we've personally owned, sold, and repurchased, watches we totally disagree on, watches we'd love to own one day, our desires for new Seiko versions, and what we'd like to see them do in the future. Join us for another fun and laidback watch talk featuring a brand close to our hearts, to find out why we love it so much, and if it's still the best bet for affordable watches under $500. What do you think about the watches featured in this video? And what's your favorite Seiko under $500? Please share in the comments!
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[@alexm2113]

Wow these episodes are always so perfectly timed! Can't wait to settle in this evening and watch another TGV and Marc discussion. 🥂 TGV!

[@zoobee]

My Seiko Sarb is my everyday watch. Got it for £400. Its simply wonderful. I wear it on steel, and in evenings on a brown leather strap. Incredible watch.

[@TopTierTicker]

The deadly duo is back! Love it when you guys sit down for a chat. Opposite style preferences but a complete appreciation for one another's tatse. I think the SRPG63 was a flop for Seiko, I absolutely love it though, and a proud owner. Once a month isn't enough for these videos!

[@marcellogallucci4176]

Nizza the Italian name for Niece, the city on the southern coast of France. It was formerly Italian territory, gifted to France in the late 19th century as a thank you for French support in the Italian independence wars.

[@gaborozorai3714]

Correct but it's Nice not Niece

[@peter4334]

Jnkg

[@diego61422]

The man is italian but hasnt heard about Nizza lmao

[@goodwolf152]

32:21 The Arnie, and it's not close. Coolest, most unique design they make, with the performance, pedigree, and provenance to back it up. I never get bored of it.

[@zman8340]

Nice pick . Love mine .

[@j.h.2967]

Great choices and video, gentlemen! My favorites are the 'Speedtimer' SSC813P1, 'King Samurai' SRPE35 and 'Cocktail Time' SSA343J1. Greetings from Denmark!

[@donmongoose]

I love my white dial King Samurai

[@steveizzo5853]

Great episode, my 3 picks that I own would be 1) Flight master SNA411 2) Atlas/Land Shark SKZ211 3) Seiko 5 55th Anniversary edition

[@corychecketts]

Great discussion on Seiko. An SKX009 was the first automatic watch I purchased. I’ve bought and sold maybe 50 watches and the SKX remains. It’s my favorite watch and probably always will be.

[@aroshgk]

Thank goodness I bought my flightmaster when it was still affordable.. prices have sky rocketed since.. love the watch.. would never sell it.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Absolutely I had one sold it then bought another I had to pay over £300 for it 🙈

[@megasoid]

Love the opening! You and Marc should have a standing weekly podcast. Could listen to the two of you all day.

[@thisisnix]

The thought and creativity that goes into every video you make is top notch! Always such a pleasure to watch. I also appreciate all of your affordable watch discussions; it inspires me to know there are always beautiful watches I can save and aim for with my humble NHS pay. Thanks TGV 🙏

[@wrenside]

so true about the tight flighty lugs and spring bars. i found 21mm quick release straps and that worked great.

[@punkoid76]

For anybody that doesn’t know Uncle Seiko (unlimited straps in the UK) recently started doing both an oyster and a president bracelet specifically for the Flightmaster. I bought the oyster for mine and it looks stunning on it, no more natos or leather straps from now on, the Flighty is staying on the bracelet. I have owned my Flighty for about eight years and paid £225 for it. I also have a Gen 1 Orange monster that I got for £175.

[@adk7962]

Had one of the roughest days I’ve had in a while at work, and you Gents literally lifted my spirits with this video. The only thing that would have been better if you announced another Watch collaboration! Cheers.

[@dparis2172]

Did you see the intro?

[@adk7962]

@@dparis2172I am apparently dumbass. 🫏I completely missed it. Truth be told, I was actually more listening to them while I was doing chores around the house than watching.

[@alvinmick218]

Your videos are always of the highest caliber - informative and entertaining! An excellent way to start any weekend. Well done 🥃

[@MrDolan1971]

No way I only watched your 4 year old KZbin video yesterday. Which got me thinking about buying another and refreshing my old daily Panda version which has been with me since 2008. Thank you both love the shows 🙇‍♂️

[@cliftonlee4467]

The Samurai has the same handset as the 1st generation Monster. I have them both. An orange Samurai and a limited edition Green Monster. Love them both.

[@the.Aruarian]

They do put the Monster hands on one other watch model, I think - the modern Samurai. The Samurai will always be my fave Seiko diver, although all models have their charms. Absolutely adore the case shape, the very distinct aluminum bezel insert design, the way it wears both big and smaller than you think. Life would probably be easier (and more costly) if I had a thing for Turtles or Willards. At least I'm not a mini-Turtle enthusiast, that model seems to be in the Seiko graveyard along side the Laurel and Baby Alpinists. I know Marc got his own Flighty after this video was shot with that elusive SNA413, with those very NASA-esque colors. Would've been a fantastic Schwarzkopf selection. 😁

[@darrenfry4695]

They look the same , but is there a little difference!??

[@woonfaseng8737]

i love Samurai and Monster 2 the most due to the most unique/different from other seikos and the typical Rolex sub Homage diver looks most brands just ripe off from. these 2 models 1 glance can tell it definitely not copycat or homaging from any other watch models . i myself owned a Seiko Monster Gen 2 orange exactly like Marc and i got it at early years around 2015 or so for only around 300 singapore dollars. now could worth around 800 or 1000 S dollars probably....???

[@SuperAerogamer]

Nizza is the name for the French city of Nice in German, Swedish and Italian as far as I know. So it's probably just named the "Nice" after the city I reckon. Slightly strange that you didn't pick that up given your knowledge of Italian TGV..... Lovely discussion as always!

[@w5glsgary919]

I am thankful I followed your lead on the flight master a few years back. If only I had done the same on the SKX….huge regret. Thanks 🙏

[@jameswconforti4248]

A number of years ago I picked up the SKX Japanese model from Mark at LIW. Replaced band w a Crafter Blue. I was astonished to see that their going for as much as >$900. Crazy!

[@w5glsgary919]

@@jameswconforti4248 smart move

[@borisperez3129]

Thing I love about the both of you is how different you are, yet common ground is found. Usually that leads to lasting friendship’s

[@chuckholtlocker605]

Always dig your brilliant intro edits. I was at the movies recently and before the previews they had a Rolex meets Cinema advert. I thought to myself while watching; did TGV edit this advert?? I think the Rolex ad agency has been watching your videos for inspiration.

[@Kingstonsmac]

Just ordered that same Antarctica monster and cannot wait to get it. Normally wouldn’t get a blue dial but this one is absolutely gorgeous!

[@JeffreyMcMahon]

Thanks for the excellent presentation. The Monster is a watch that has occupied my watch imagination for 15 years. I regret selling my 3rd-Gen models. I would like Seiko to bring back a 3rd-Gen style with sapphire and a new movement for under a thousand with black, jade, gray, blue, and sunray orange dials. I suspect they would sell out in a week.

[@troll2637]

Love your videos sir. 🖖🏼

[@MichaelG1986]

Perfectly timed after a tough day. I watched the video after dinner while enjoying a glass of wine. I really enjoy these collaboration videos.

[@MichaelSchulze-f3m]

The SRP 777 / 779 is an awesome watch. For a short time It got some attention but not anymore. You can get IT for around 250€ now and that is an awesome price for such a capable diver. I take It diving using the OEM strap which fits over my 7mm dive suit. I wear It on a brown colareb and the aftermarket super jubile. Luckily my watch is super accurate. So i guess any 4R36 can be regulated like this. I changed the bezel to a coin edge and steel inlay. If your wrist can take the size it is a wonderful choice.

[@leemp337]

man i love it when you two guys hang out. good sense of humor and good show fellas.

[@joshsher6327]

Watches, movies, diecast planes, katanas and even a world map above the desk. It's nice to see someone likes the same things as I do ;)

[@devilapproved]

Monster. my first automatic when it came out. It's been all over the world, never been serviced and I still love it. Great video as usual.

[@Musashi413]

I'll preface this by saying that I'm a longtime subscriber, and love your content. No insult intended, but I just have to share this. My daughter, who is sometimes around when I watch KZbin, just walked past as I was watching this video and said, "Oh, it's that watch guy that looks and sounds like a knock-off Bond villain. I can totally hear him say, 'We meet again, Mr. Bond!'" She then walked away, chuckling.

[@davidrosenblum2178]

They made a Gen III orange Monster. I picked one up in a secondhand store in Narita, Japan. It was pristine and is one of my favorite Seikos in my collection. Love it…and my Flighty too! Always a pleasure to see you two get together!

[@sturmgold]

I love Seiko but they need to put sapphire glass on much more watches under 500€, I mean Orient, Citizen and even other brands can do that. That's the only reason why I don't buy a lot of Seikos even though I love their designs.

[@Kittyland123]

Thank you so much TGV for such an entertaining video with Mark! I really enjoyed your watch recommendations and the humorous environment that you both create when you guys get together!! Thank you so much for educating me! I always learn something new from every video that you create! Stay healthy and well as always! Your watch enthusiast, Nicholas L 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻⏱️⏱️⏱️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🦖🦖🦖🥂🥂🥂

[@barrettwbenton]

Great collab as usual, gents. My own sub-$500 Seikos, past and present: fuest up, my SARB 017 Alpinist, bought just before Seiko killed off the whole SARB line; and, just this year, the SSK003 5 Sports GMT (Blueberry/Batman...take your pick). Both watches care of Marc/LIW at a great price. Keep these videos coming, guys!

[@zambonidriver42]

These are always my favorite episodes. You two compliment each other so well. Good times!

[@THX-C]

I saw Antonioni’s Professione: Reporter at the Castro Theater in SF several years (easily over a decade) ago - Antonioni’s an incredible director and he really reigned Nicholson in. Prior to that, I don’t believe it had ever been released on DVD. It’s hard to have a favorite Antonioni film because as much as I love that film, I still love his early work with Monica Vitti: L'Avventura, L'Eclisse. I have a 7a28 after years of wanting one - love this watch and that high quality (serviceable) movement - superb!

[@theurbangentry]

You are so right, amazing director. The Passenger still remains in my top 5 fave films. Glad to know there are others that appreciate his work. Thank you my friend, Best as always, T.

[@awdturbopowah773]

Great video as usual TGV! 👍 Always love when you and Marc sit down for a chat.

[@TheTrueHasenfeffer]

Another great video. But the shocker was the Rangemaster 2 news. I was hoping they would expound a bit about that bit of news. I missed out, just barely, on the first. I will not miss the second. Notifications will be turned ON this time.

[@mattshaffer5935]

Always a pleasure to sit in on these conversations. Thanks so much for the hard work you guys!

[@DRnab1983]

I love my gen 1 orange monster … got thrill when a jeweller spotted it one day when I was trying on a Bulova moon watch and was amazed said he couldn’t find one himself

[@michaelanzelino5068]

I bought my Seiko 'Flighty' (Ref. SNA 411) brand new in Dec. 2007. Serial # 750334. 16 years and still going strong.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

2004 was what year I was told for the Flightmaster SNA411 came out, but take that with a big pinch of salt.

[@christianfoster2433]

Personally I recently purchased a SRPD79K1 (Fan name: STEALTH or at least that's my fan name for it) and this replaced a 10 year old Seiko Diver watch of mine again worn on the same NATO strap that appears on the 1964 production of Goldfinger staring Sean Connery sadly watch wasn't a Rolex Submariner 6583. I'm thrilled with the look and feel of the timepiece. I've newly rediscovered my love of watches and have previously been a owner and fan of TAGs but switched to Seiko in the past 10 years. What are your thoughts on the SRPD79K1? Great content by the way Sirs and many thanks for taking the time to edit and put these episodes together so slickly. Keep up the good work Sirs.

[@NeMatiosaitis]

SARB017 my favorite. Payed £350 in 2018. All the SARB line was nice.

[@baconandbezels6992]

Always anticipate these collab videos they’re the best! Can’t wait to see the Rangemaster 2 and what changes have been made.

[@danzigrulze5211]

The Arnie. When you where it, you instantly become a badass, and for guys with a big wrist, like me, it just looks perfect.

[@fooferbob9230]

Fellas, some time ago I paired the Seiko powered ISL-133 with the Valor strap. The occasion was a memorable trip to Padre Island National Seashore. Thanks for sharing your designs and wonderful personalities.

[@christopherhall2897]

Great video again guys, I love the fact that you left the end in (I'm still smiling)

[@joeltoddwilliams3568]

Man you guys should go on tour love your collaboration videos thanks again

[@shahnhughes4558]

The Flightmaster is one of my favorite all-around versatile watches. Mine lives on one of Marc's Milanese mesh bracelets

[@thewanderer2410]

Another great collaboration TGV and Marc. The Seiko Flightmaster is the watch that gets more wrist time than any of my watches.

[@grunt12g]

Still have my flighty as my daily work watch. It's still ticking and loving every moment of it. And the ndc strap is the cherry on top. This and my original sarb017 are never leaving my collection.

[@edhammond6911]

Great video. I have owned the SNA414, gold flightmaster for about five years now. I have over 50 watches and this might be my favorite. SEIKO IS KING !!!

[@DaveMGmovies]

Excellent entertainment -- as always. And the best intros on the Tube.

[@dparis2172]

I put on my sarb033 this morning for the first time in several weeks - then I see this video, this evening. 😊

[@4evalost948]

Ha ha the ending of the video with Marc really had me laughing, I really wasn't going to comment anything this time around because I had no answer for your question lol but that last bit of the video with you struggling to say the word sponsorship really made me laugh because we can all relate to not been able to say a word lol. It's always a joy to see you two to work together

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Bloody hell after seeing this…I’ve just bought my second Flightmaster, I will keep it this time 😂

[@KB-vf4gz]

2:54 Marc with his eyes and tongue out 😂😂😂

[@neilba1]

Great to see they've gone back to rectangular markers on the latest Monsters.....nice.

[@Canada-gs3jc]

I’d like to thank mark for the bomb jubilee bracelets for the citizens. Good work Bro!

[@heikowallauer]

Good evening TGV! Great that you and Marc are doing a show together again. And of course a good topic for a Friday evening. I'll make myself a Martini now and then I'll enjoy the video with a drink Have a great evening!

[@theurbangentry]

Evening Heiko!!! I will be joining in a martini shortly, chin chin my friend and here to a great weekend. Thank you as always, Best, T.

[@timetravelinghistorian8341]

3:42 Nizza is the German name for the city of Nice on the French côte d’azur.

[@davethebarber62920]

I have a Gen 2, Monster Dracula, that was made in Japan. I replaced the rubber strap with an after market bracelet and it presently has a leather strap from ColaReb. I only wear it occasionally but I think it looks really good.

[@Jaxxo11]

Marc mentioned the Monster hands aren’t used on other watches but I believe they are also used on the Seiko Samurai

[@alangil40]

One of my favorite Seiko's is the SSB031, in fact I have two so that I can keep one on its metal bracelet and the other I can swap between several quick release leather and/or rubber straps. It's a great looking chronograph and it features a mechaquartz movement, so the chronograph secondhand sweep is very mechanical like smooth. I also have the venerable SKX007 as well as the recent SSK003K1 Sekio 5 GMT Automatic 'batman'. I also have the SSB355P1, a 45mm mechaquartz chronograph which has great dial detail. Lastly, I just picked up a not well known Prospex SSC705P1 which is a solar chronograph with a compass bezel and 200m water resistance which is quite sporty at 44mm and which I use for hiking and camping. Seiko is quite prolific with so many models and tiers and I have to try to not have too many lest my watch collection becomes just a Seiko collection.

[@clontstable1]

Gen 2 Orange, Baby! Love mine! I bought mine in 2014 for $179.00!

[@jefferyneu3915]

I am with Marc. The Gen 2 Monster is my favorite Seiko. But, there are several others I also wouldn’t want to part with.

[@to2055]

Fluco make great straps for sure. Nizza is a city in France. They have other straps in their catalogue named after cities. Nice video as usual, thanks you.

[@rollingstone1689]

I have the seiko sna411 and I got an AR sapphire crystal fitted takes the great looking watch to another level.

[@julioalejandrorobleslongin5861]

I'd have to go with the SNKL23. It's a very special watch for me: it was my first automatic watch and a birthday gift from my girlfriend. I loved the episode, keep up with the great work!! Cheers all the way from Mexico City.

[@dultanur]

This is an impossible question... I love so many of them. SKX must be mentioned, it's one of the watches that got me really interested in watches (and yes, I got mine for just over 100USD as well hehe). My first bi boy watch was a Sportura chronograph, which I still own and love. the SNK which started my love affair with field wastches... That's wiyhout involving vintage stuff, the Kings and Grands. That ending had me literally laughing out loud! You guys rock.

[@Stanjara]

Hey Mark, they actually changed the Monster so much on the last one that it barely resembles the Monster. Also you mentioned that is gonna be discontinued. Had it on my hand and definitely not a fan. It's a polarizing watch for sure. I'm looking at new fields in 36 so there it is, and a new retro Citizen chrono Bullhead. Great episode as always.

[@durandsimon5221]

One of your best, thanks guys!!

[@VectorAero]

I love Seiko and I won't pay over $500 for any model. My favorites under $500: SARB033, Flighty, Mini Turtle, solar tuna (Beams limited edition), Snoopy limited Seiko5 field watch. I wish I could have gotten my hands on a coral blue or jade monster but I missed the boat and the price skyrocketed to a grand.

[@jackprick9797]

Would like to see Hugo do some of these interviews. That guy is Epic!

[@danrobinson2888]

Great video, enjoyed watching with my morning Lavazza coffee For me Seiko Save The Ocean mini Tuna is my current fav

[@zombislasher]

My favorite Seiko is the King Turtle grenade, bought for myself my last birthday, was on sale for 349 dlls

[@theunclebsimchannel6434]

I love my Seiko Stargate that I picked up for about $350 some years ago. It’s the black version with yellow accents, took it off the bracelet and wear it with an olive green Hadley Roma strap.

[@michaelriera6277]

Yes! Great start to the long weekend with my fav collab. Enjoy the long weekend!

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you, have a wonderful weekend too. Best regards, TGV

[@clontstable1]

Also, I own the Islander Black Dialed Monster…great homage to the Seiko Gen 1 Black Dialed!

[@defender1006]

Just love this Seiko 'love fest' and you guys knowledge on these magnificent watches, I don't own a 'Monster', but do have many Seiko Divers, from 7002 and SKX's up to an SLA023J1, so I get that 'Diver' vibe. I also own an SNA411, amazing value for money watch and a great travellers time piece that will last you for decades given a battery change or two, but what about a 'solar' version would be a brilliant update? However, to me 'Flightmaster' will always be an Omega and I'm lucky enough to own a 'Cal911' rather than the much rarer '910' 24hr movement, but there you go! Keep the 'out takes/moments' in there, we're all human when all said and done.............

[@richardtwyning]

I can never fall in love with the Flightie because I own a Citizen Skyhawk, but I think my Seiko chronograph is the better movement because it was the predecessor to the Flightie movement. It has a second crown for the second time and alarm

[@Kevreplicant]

Great video. Love the enthusiasm. Makes me smile and cheers me up.

[@zambonidriver42]

Favorite Seiko, and it isn’t even close. Presage SRPH78 Cocktail Time. Star Bar “Houzou”. $495 list, and I am fairly convinced I got the last one in the US. I have a Pepsi SKX, Seiko 5 diver, another Cocktail Time, a Rowing Blazer, the 38mm 2023 Snoopy, a King Seiko, and probably a couple others I’m forgetting. But the SRPH78 punches so far above it’s $495 list price.

[@dannyfree1120]

My goodness. My two favourite watch guys talking about my favourite watch brand in the only price bracket I can afford

[@erik100mark]

I have an Islander SKX full lume and the Flightmaster. Marc's watch is phenomenal fit and finish for the money. The Flightmaster is insane value; it's so well done. I can't stop looking at that dial. I have a steeldive tuna and I like the size of it; however the monster never really appealed to me. If I was to get a new Seiko at $500 I would get the Turtle SRPE05. Green dail and gives me the Apocalypse Now vibes.

[@cretan911]

Yay, Mark and TGV!!!! and whats that...talking SEIKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MisterTurtleTime]

What a fantastic show again! I was hoping to finally see the turtle making an appearance on this channel, but the Monster and Flighty are legends as well! Have a fantastic weekend and I can't wait to see the next episode!🔥🇯🇵

[@patmans88]

Love yalls collaborations. Keep it up yall make a great duo

[@RossetBespokeButlers]

I just discovered your channel and I love it! As a butler I really appreciate your style. I have subscribed and will enjoy watching your videos - thank you

[@scottlewis2372]

Years ago on WUS, sombody asked advice on Monster vs. SKX. I offered that if he was interested in modding, buy the SKX, if not, buy the Monster because it's already perfect. Aren't lugs on the Monster different on the current gen vs. gen 1? The endlinks sure look different (there aren't really any on gen 1).

[@gwobcke]

Nice video. I think I am suffering from "Seiko Fatigue" and only consider King Seiko or Grand Seiko these days.

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Great episode boys!!!!

[@hawkeye454]

I'm proudly wearing my Seiko SRPE55 that I added a sapphire crystal to thanks to Long Island Watch!

[@jackiechan8840]

Just got a Seiko 5 GMT. Had no idea it even existed!

[@wingi7722]

So I would like to see Seiko reissue the Full white Flightie as issued to either the Italian Navy or the Italian Air force. This has a full white dial with red accents and the small hands are red. White bezel as well. Super rare, I've been looking for one for ages. Also I LOVE that auto Flightie you showed. Those big white numerals and the Date aperture in the subdial at 6 look great!

[@TheNunakun]

I'm very proud to say I have both in my humble watch collection. I actually got the orange monster gen II for $195ish new, as my first big boy watch ever. Didn't know what I had for years (didn't even know it was nicknamed "monster"), but I knew I wore the heck out of it and it's still my favorite. 🍊

[@a_z.tazzzfan8497]

For me, it would have to be the SRP637 Baby Tuna. I bought my first one in April 2015 shortly after its release. Sold it in late 2016. Big mistake; had seller's remorse after a couple months. Ended up buying another one (new) in April 2017 - exactly 2 years to the month after I bought my first one. I still have it and it's kept with my "Do Not Sell" watches.

[@timetowatch_francois]

Already looking forward to the new Rangemaster in October!! 😄👍🏼 Love these sessions. Keep ’em coming! (wow ... that was a mouthful at the end! 😆)

[@edmiller873]

I added my email to Ling Island Watch for when the next Flightmasters come in. I want one! Thanks so much for the great episode. ❤