Our Honest Review of the World Deadlift Championships (Giants Live Las Vegas)

[@tomels8]

Tom has always been a one show men, where everything is prepared for him to win. Mitch is completely on another level!

[@robertdoyle4098]

Tom who at this point he’s done

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

I still have faith in Tom, even if Mitch is a lot better.

[@davidp2391]

He's like Eddie Hall, one trick pony.

[@youtubeconnollyfamily]

WSM is we’re Tom beats Mitch that’s it though

[@chriswhitehead6172]

There have been many strongman athletes that make wsm there main show. It's always been like that.

[@roadagent5158]

Absolutely brilliant brutally honest evaluation, outstanding video

[@LalasBrothers]

@@roadagent5158 thank you 👊

[@justinwynn2294]

Great video per usual. Nothing unusual about what happened outside of Eddie on the podium. With the amount of money at Rogue coming up, I bet we will see a different Tom like we did last year. Sadly I agree that unless Evan changes his mentality he is going continue to hurt himself and not really advance any further. The fact that Hicks ate too much and couldn't fit in his suit is either ignorant on his part or just another excuse.

[@LalasBrothers]

@@justinwynn2294 hopefully we will see different Tom in Rogue 🤞 Thank you for the comment 💪

[@roadagent5158]

Harsh but 100% fair. Evan is frustrating; just be an agent of your own emotions and calm it the fuck down for the sake of RESULTS!! Hicks... i agree. He knows full-well how much weight effects his suit fit and performance, he should be eating IDENTICAL to what he has at home, he peaked way to early and he needs to be honest about his lockout strength!

[@anymous1485]

@@roadagent5158 kind of odd how he just passed out on the 470, it was fucking flying until he started passing out and hitching

[@Danny_S.]

Keep up the great strongman content. I love how you both do not hold back your unbiased and honest opinions. It's great that you are not afraid to speak up without worrying about upsetting big name sponsors or athletes. It is the best way to get strongman competitions and many of the current athletes improve. Your advice to Tom was spot on. Many may criticize Thor but his comeback approach is going well by not diluting his legacy and giving his body time to heal appropriately.

[@markovasil1608]

Trey was a huge surprise

[@LalasBrothers]

@@markovasil1608 it was and it wasn't. Trey won SMOE two times in a row, so we all know what he is capable of when he is in shape.

[@anymous1485]

merica!

[@mattholt5063]

Wrecking ball hold either needs to be taken out of rotation or changed so it’s actually a grip event e.g require the athletes to take a wide stance so they are not resting the grip on their thighs.

[@LalasBrothers]

@@mattholt5063 to be honest event looks pretty cool, but these "cheat codes" that athletes can do to get better results, leaves bad taste in fans mouths.

[@mattholt5063]

Agree it looks cool. Would still be cool if they required a wider stance or something though. But we won’t get it as it’s all about appearance and numbers. I’d prefer to see no suits and just conventional straps for any deadlift but again that ship has sailed.

[@espenstoro]

I just think it's soooooo boring. There are more fun events to choose from.

[@TheSLK66]

Bring back the Hercules hold!

[@mattholt5063]

@@TheSLK66 yep. Better event for sure.

[@plastikmaiden]

Speaking hard truths.

[@LalasBrothers]

@@plastikmaiden just sharing our thoughts, that's all. Thanks for your comment 🙏

[@riselikethephoenix1]

This really shows how incredible it was for eddie and thor

[@LalasBrothers]

@@riselikethephoenix1 yes it does

[@presqueisle69]

​@LalasBrothers I believe that thor is the best Genetically gifted person to deadlift in the world . Let's recap . It almost killed eddie no jokes aside and thor 10 minutes later was ready for a Interview . It was crazy . The Dr there was blown away .

[@MovieMuscle]

@@presqueisle69 Hooper gave it a credible shot and then went and did a whole contest.... and WON. Over 500 is in him.

[@pagit85]

​@@presqueisle69Eddie was fine. All just show to make it seem an even bigger thing

[@kingofscots]

Good recap and breakdown you guys. Thanks! I flew over for it from Scotland. It was a big expense. Not one I'm sure I'd make again.

[@LalasBrothers]

@@kingofscots i do believe that it was a big expense, but hopefully you enjoyed the experience 😊

[@kingofscots]

@@LalasBrothers £3000 all in. You can never predict people pulling out etc. I support Giants Live fully. It's just a big gamble on something at that kinda cost.

[@roadagent5158]

Respect; you don't go, you won't know... and here's me wincing at the cost of my Rouge tickets and i stay just outside Aberdeen😂👍🏾

[@kingofscots]

@@roadagent5158 I've got them too! Rogue should run very smoothly. With that kinda prize money I hope they're all coming in strong!

[@roadagent5158]

@@kingofscots well said mate👍🏾 see you there!😁

[@latex0r]

trey looks more jacked than before, big boulder shoulders that weren't as visible before

[@LalasBrothers]

@@latex0r i agree 💯

[@samuel96100]

Great video as usual lads 👍I enjoyed the show as always but was expecting more bling and a bigger crowd for vegas, I also thought Hicksy would get the 505 this time,. Great to see Trey back on form, My top 3 was - Hooper, Tom Stoltman and Mitchell.

[@GuestVeea]

I flew out to Vegas to see this show. After having also attended SMOE, I felt this show was very lackluster especially when comparing the audience/energy between the two. I really hope Giants Live gives it another shot in the US and markets it better this time around. Personally, I felt that the athletes I was most excited to see didn't come as prepared as they should have (Tom as you guys mentioned, Biby and Oleksii pulling out early, Hicks' failed deadlift attempts) its always a blast being able to watch these guys, so id love to see them compete wholeheartedly in a full show

[@jessebutryn]

I hope Tom is going to turn it around. He put out a video after the shaw classic talking about how professional guys like Hooper and Thor are with their eating and prep. Meanwhile as soon as Tom's plane lands he heads to the store to buy a 10 lb bag of gummy bears, a lifetime supply of chips, and a bunch of greasy fast food. Seriously watching the way he eats before a contest (particularly in america) I'm surprised he can even compete at all. But it sounds like he has identified it as being an issue so hopefully he starts taking his diet more seriously.

[@johnqpublic407]

We support all of the athletes, at every event. We have alot of respect for all they put themselves through, for our entertainment. That being said, if they don't show up to perform, we can all tell. So, if they don't want to show up, and hold back for other events, it grinds my gears. Just don't go, give someone else the show, swagger into the ones you train to win, and hope you do. Exposure for the free vacation and youtube/brand content doesn't matter, when you prove you're not interested. That being said, being a 1 trick pony only works for so long.

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

Something needs to change. He’s getting blown out against Thor and hooper.

[@hadrian2505]

I see people saying Graham put on some weight so that's the problem, but nothing in his training showed he would be able to pull 505

[@Bigramt]

He was fast off the floor the entire training cycle, but his lockout wasn't convincing. Eddie hall was extremely focused on speed on his build up too, but Eddie was stronger I thought Graham had a good chance until he dropped the 450x2 video. Now 450x2 is absolutely insane, but it was slow on lockout for the second rep. He said he had another rep or 2 I'm the tank. Imo didn't look like it Another video if 465 was posted a few weeks back and he badly struggled at lockout Hafthor is extremely strong at lockout. Before he became a complete deadlift monster, I remember him fighting hard to complete 450 at a deadlift championships. Once the lift got close to knees, he had the size, power and fight to keep it moving. I do think he is right the only guy truly capable, unless mitch really makes it a priority, I think he may have a chance Graham and Ivan will never pull 500 plus.

[@mediaproof960]

Rauno looked pretty good on 470. I'd say he has a 500+ in there somewhere but it better happen soon.

[@JBS7551]

The weight gain excuse was piss poor

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Baffles me how people ignore the fact he wouldn't get it. No hate, but like you said, it didn't looked like he could handle it.

[@mark4lev]

@@mediaproof960500/505 is like double the weight of 470, or it may as well be, because the effect is exponential as the weights go up. No one who has done 470+ has ever wanted to do it again

[@RockoBam1]

I've followed strongman since the 90s, I've never seen anything like Hooper.

[@youtubeconnollyfamily]

Brain and big z are the only guys you can compare him to. Mitch has a long way to catch up to those guys, but at his rate, he will do it pretty fast.

[@bronchoped]

Only in competion time. In skill he is there already. Perhaps even better​@youtubeconnollyfamily

[@LalasBrothers]

@@RockoBam1 yes, Hopper is something else.

[@craigpawalawski4232]

@Rocko130185 If he carries on like this he could be the new dominator and in the top 5 of best strongmen Brian Big Z Marius and Kaz the only strongman banned from competing because he was to strong for the opposition

[@RockoBam1]

@craigpawalawski4232 the strength of competition for most of Shaw's and Big Z's career isn't like it is today and Kaz's day was a mile away from that even. 20 podiums in 21 international competitions in the space of a couple of years is unbelievable.

[@michaelholder98]

Thank you for being real about Hicks. It was years ago when I came to the conclusion that he and Adam Bishop can be great on the day but they’ll never be a top level strongman nor can they legitimately contest for anything world record breaking. He just doesn’t have it I’m sorry if that sounds cold but it’s just an observable fact.

[@zcddrew]

Thanks for the video boys, you guys doing some pre coverage for the rogue?

[@terminator5198]

Best YT channel ever ollove you guys very honest

[@LalasBrothers]

@@terminator5198 thank you 😊

[@jburton9103]

Great commentary fellas!

[@LalasBrothers]

Thank you 😊

[@steventhomas2500]

I’m loving the content and the consistency keep it up.

[@drewsaddler8414]

Great stuff guys!

[@LalasBrothers]

@@drewsaddler8414 thank you 😊

[@goldilox811]

You guys are one of like… 3 channels that actually make videos on strongman content. This sport can feasibly die if it doesn’t improve

[@LalasBrothers]

@@goldilox811 hopefully you are wrong, i don't want to see strongman go backward 😔

[@Bound4Earth]

Do you not want to watch it because almost all in WSM and The Arnold stong man classic make content just search any of them.

[@goldilox811]

@@Bound4Earth uhhh yeah, the actual shows do make videos about themselves. I’m speaking on a strongman media or fan KZbin channels like UFC/boxing has.

[@Bound4Earth]

@@goldilox811 Yeah that is what I am talking about, there are a lot of them you have to look. I am not talking about GiantsLive or competitions like Rogue. Almost every strongman has a channel and they all make great content on strongman. Hooper even breaks down each competition. Like I said you are out of the loop and should search more on KZbin.

[@hardcorebronco]

Great video guys! Thank you!

[@branominal]

I believe Tom and Luke are on retainers to compete in a certain number of giants live shows, but he just doesn't care about them

[@JBS7551]

It seems to be that way

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Yup. Remember the 2022 Luke leaks?. I don't get how people forget that just cause they love the Spicys

[@goldilox811]

They have been since 2021-2

[@quintongrobler5194]

Hooper didn't go full tilt on the 505kg attempt, but definitely gave me the impression if he devotes a training cycle to it that he could do it. Insane.

[@ChatgptEngine]

The only person who can do it is Thor , Pavlo or Trey with a suit. I only see Hoopers max about 490 . Don't be fooled with teaser . People forgot Hooper already had a 475 deadlift when he just came and was actually training for 505 but didn't have it in him. Listen most great deadlifts peak around 490 and anything over is a different game where it takes time to increase by only one kg

[@kostkaguitar]

@@ChatgptEnginedisagre. Hooper got 475 when he was training only for deadlift and log - not 2547372 other strongman events ;). Then when he fully comitted Himself to Strongman he started to do other events and because of that his deadlift level dropped. Competing that much, training all the events, doing a lot of social media and still get 505 from the floor - I think it is definietely possible for him in the future. He looks better than most of the guys attempting 505 so far, including Pablo, Makarov etc. and he was not training for that 😅. Obviously Thor is stronger and he has the best chance. But who you consider second best strongman deadlifter on the planet right now? Hooper is not the worst pic in my opinion…Makarov is strong, Rauno, but Hooper is in the same area possible…but I agree that it would not be easy and I doubt that Mitchel will focus only on one lift for a couple months ;) P.S. Trey 470 without the suit 😮😮😮😮😮 that was impressive. I m curious right now what he can do 😮

[@mediaproof960]

Was Hooper training 505kg at one point? I hadn't heard that.

[@ChatgptEngine]

@@mediaproof960 yes his first year in strongman. He was training for about 3 months but he was not strong enough

[@J.D.191]

​@@ChatgptEngine that was three years ago. He was not training for 505 in this show. He wasn't going to even try 505 until he got to the show. Hooper only had 1 training session with his sute. And he got 505 to his knee

[@williamshine1346]

As usual a real pleasure to hear both your views on a contest. I’ll say it again not only is Hooper super talented with no real weaknesses he is a better competitor than most. If it wasn’t for the torn callouses he would have won the 2024 WSM. Is it luck or superior approach to training that has kept him relatively injury free ?

[@reallymysterious4520]

I still say they should have had 485 or 490 as an option

[@LalasBrothers]

@@reallymysterious4520 yes, but most likely promoters don't care about these numbers.

[@espenstoro]

They should, because we've plateaued on 470 now. It's the same as last year. 505 is just too unlikely, but some guys can pull a PB in between.

[@reallymysterious4520]

@@LalasBrothers Mitch and Rauno would both have been able to do 485 - do you agree ?

[@Freshprankstv1]

Go big or go home my guy

[@goldilox811]

I actually believe they did, but nobody chose it.

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Thoughts: a) People is right saying Thor is the only one right now capable of breaking his record (emphasis on right now, meaning the present folks). The ball is no longer on GL's park, and is up to anybody to challenge the atlethes to a new deadlift. Maybe Rogue at the Arnold's, maybe SCL, who knows. b) Trey and Mitch show hope for the future though. Trey hates suits, so there is that, but Mitch has a better crack in oposition to Rauno, Ivan, Pehiman and Etc. However, let's not get too excited too, 'member Motch has been in that territory before, the reason he got into the strongman pro circuit was his 475KG deadlift and it baffles mes people forget how good he was already when he got in and specially his dl was theough the roof already. What goves hope is Mitch's planning ahead and brain, in fact, the best 470 this year was Rauno, can be seen from a side angle though, from the front Mitc was faster, but his lock was alread ify. c) Maksrov should take a rest a rethink what he is doing if he ever plans on trying again. d) Tom is on ramsom from GL and WSM lol. He wouldn't do this shows if he hadn't a deal with them, this is known. He is indeed disappointing and at this point it hurts. e) There was nothing from Hicks camp training leading to the championship that looked like he would get 500+. In fact, non of the 500 attempts even looled like it, yes that includes the Mitche's, i said there is hope in them, but all them look like 2 tiers bellowe what is needed f) The Lalas brothers rule. So honest guys.

[@alexanderreich749]

Yeah baby, my favorite Strongman talkshow is back on track and we get good quality videos early! I fully agree with your Mitch assessment - this guy is just otherworldly. Like of course he is insanely good at moving events being very light and athletic, but then to be this light and almost pull 505... this shouldn't happen. He literally found a cheat code for real life, I don't get it.

[@francoisdevries1]

It sucked. Imagine them going for 480 to determine a winner. These record chasing sucks.

[@holyhex6520]

Like Pa said, Hooper is an alien. Never seen anything like him.

[@tribeof2035]

Thanks for your input on strongman shows and making these videos post competition. IMO your analysis is spot on regarding the athletes and it’s also similar to Hooper’s post show review. At the end of the day it’s up to Giants Live and Rogue to deliver in terms selecting better athletes and events. The wrecking ball hold just doesn’t cut it IMO. Trey Mitchell’s deadlift was the highlight for me as well as Austin Andrade attempt. Hooper and his coach are really putting themselves in another category and Hooper is cementing himself as superior as he goes for additional world records and keeps winning. I suspect we see more from Thor and his coach as well as Trey and his coach in 2025. That’s a great lineup in any show with Lucas Hatton, Austin Andrade, Tristin Hoath, Andrei Foujtu, Eddie Williams and Mateusz bringing the heat. For a future video could you discuss what a proper strongman season is or would be if you were competing and how an athlete would/could prepare to prep and compete in the big three Arnold/WSM/SMOE as well as a GL event? Realistically Hooper has figured it out and I believe Thor has said 4 shows a year are his focus. I don’t consider Rogue to be worthy of following or watching for several reasons. I’m hoping the MVM Classic takes their spot as the big 4 and Rogue and Giants Live clean up their act.

[@brandonparris7577]

Tom is injured and confirmed it on KZbin today.. I love Tom but he has to be healthy to be the best. Hooper is so consistent it’s hard to believe!

[@michaelholder98]

Can we just admit that Eddie and Thor and Brian and Big Z were anomolies and way ahead of their time b/c no current strongman could touch any of those 4 guys in any kind of deadlift event. The sport has devolved since their time when it comes to Max Deadlift. PERIOD

[@michaelholder98]

Apologies JF, you s/b included as well!

[@JBS7551]

Pritchett too, arnolds back in 2016-2017, thor, shaw and pritchett opened higher than most 3rd attempts this year.

[@michaelsweeney1283]

Nice job boys

[@LalasBrothers]

Thank you for watching💪🏼

[@neal520]

now that i think about serious respect for Hooper for going all out every single comp

[@janoycresva276]

It’s impressive how Vytautas is 42 but doesn’t look older than 24, no BS

[@LalasBrothers]

I don't know about that 😅

[@janoycresva276]

@@LalasBrothers It's true

[@renee4883]

Eddie deserved a mention!

[@sagebauer1077]

Now, I'm a incredibly weak deadlifter compared to these guys, but I'm always confused why lockout is SUCH a huge issue for these lifters. They all seem to have great speed off the floor then just falter once its over the knees. When I deadlift, if it gets past the knees the lockout is a piece of cake. You have so much more leverage in the top half of the lift, it really seems like it should be the easy part. Is it just the suit? Is it because strongmen just have absolutely massive quads? is it just something that naturally happens once you cross the ~900lb mark?

[@LalasBrothers]

With deadlifting in can be very hard to explain because everybody has there own weakness and strengths when it comes to it, everybody also has there own comfortable style, lifts might all look the same but hip height, foot position, foot orientation and hand position are all slightly different, some people are just better at locking out while others can be really impressive off the floor The suits allow for a lot of compression like a coiled spring, but can make it tough to get into your favourable deadlift position

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Locking is underaperciated, all people look at is the speed of the floor, but without a powerful lock is almost impossible.

[@geoffreykeating8172]

Hooper had best attempt at 505kg , and by his own admission wasn't training for the deadlift record 😮

[@LalasBrothers]

@@geoffreykeating8172 crazy right 😂

[@Tomm5997]

12:10 He isn't going to hurt himself just because of his deadlifting style.

[@LalasBrothers]

Evan didn’t complete the show due to a lower back injury, it’s not known if he had the pain before the show, but he did have it after the max deadlift

[@shawnmichaud4484]

He ripped on 1000lbs when it was nowhere near in the correct position to start his pull. He needs to settle down and focus more. He's his own worst enemy.

[@craigpawalawski4232]

I would be very surprised to see Hicks pull more than 480ish he had 1 whole year to prepare.. Mitch pull a great 470 and within the next 18 months he will become a member of the 500kg club ..And what can I say about Trey 470kg raw WOW

[@LalasBrothers]

@@craigpawalawski4232 i was really rooting for Hicks get the record, but you could be right when it comes to his limit. I wonder what he will do now.

[@mattwells5022]

Thors 501 was the greatest strength show in history he could have done more that day.

[@LalasBrothers]

@@mattwells5022 yes, he could have done more.

[@goldilox811]

Trey absolutely stole the show

[@DavidVirtanen]

Hell Yeah Big Trey Is Insane 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@LalasBrothers]

@@goldilox811 Trey did great 💪

[@cobywarren5103]

Trey is a fkn monster

[@LalasBrothers]

@@cobywarren5103 yes he is

[@R_iggy90]

In Eddie's build up to the 500 he was pulling 420 for 3x3 beltless and 450 singles beltless too until someone puts up similar numbers without a suit I cant see 505 going, people are putting up similar numbers in training but with a suit on it just doesn't translate to the same.

[@LalasBrothers]

@@R_iggy90 it's crazy how some guys can deadlift 50kg more in the suit 😅

[@R_iggy90]

@@LalasBrothers yeah I think those deadlifting around the thousand pound area without the suit will be in a good place once in a suit and used to lifting in one.

[@tabascojoe77]

💪💪💪

[@mediaproof960]

Mitch is just performing at such a level that he's gonna be awfully hard to beat. On Mitch's day I'm not sure he loses any show even if everyone else turns up 100% also. He's so consistently solid on everything.

[@AtlasSiłacz]

That's right. But at this point I have two questions: When will his first serious injury occur? And how strong will he come back after that? But I wish him the best and hope he can continue to enrich this sport (even if it's getting a bit boring).

[@mediaproof960]

Haha, completely agree. It's a fight for 2nd at thos point. I was thinking just that. How long can he go without something serious? Pushes so damn hard. I hope he stays healthy but wow.

[@mediaproof960]

If anyone can comeback from injury it will be him though. What really worries me is he has said he won't be in the sport forever. I'd hate to think that an injury would retire him.

[@Cogency]

Tom needs a better coach.

[@cobywarren5103]

100%

[@davidp2391]

Everyone babies him. Definitely holding him back.

[@sthulhu]

Tom needs a better Tom...

[@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw]

Tom is a grown man. Not a mindless idiot but he is deciding to make these half ass efforts. Dan came up with the master plan to win WSM, he CAN with other shows , but that’s up to Tom

[@Freshprankstv1]

@@sthulhuTom isn't running at full capacity. Maybe 85 percent. That autism is a kicker

[@republicjim120]

Did ANYONE have Eddie Williams on the podium? That was a big surprise, but a pleasant one. He certainly performed, unlike some of the bigger names, and earned that spot.

[@LalasBrothers]

Eddie Williams did great 💪

[@michaelmullins1290]

Now Mitch is pushing for he and Thor to have a event. I believe both can pull at least 505. Hate it for Graham. I think you have to put Trey in a 505 event. If they have one.

[@geoffreykeating8172]

Tom only human and has been at it for many years

[@mattholt5063]

This was a particularly bad comp for Tom and while he’s not had the best run since world’s, if it wasn’t for the stone mishap at Shaw Classic he would have been on the podium in that comp. I do agree that he needs to be able to show up if he comes to a comp. His reputation is important and this comp hasn’t done him any favours.

[@awallner1]

Are you guys going to do a video of Brian's arm-wrestling training/career? And of course, the subsequent match against Eddie?

[@LalasBrothers]

Most likely

[@Murky.Dnb05]

maybe it’s that contract from a few years ago luke was leaked talking about that means, if fit, they must compete in all the shows. for the giants and stoltman brand etc etc - realising at this level it’s entertainment over sportsmanship for some

[@aresjerry]

Thanks bros

[@cayasm]

Vytulas should be an official commentator, his knowledge is spot on. Disappointing for Graham, apparently he put on weight and his suit was too tight, even still he should have been able to pull the 470. Trey Mitchell was awesome 470 raw. Well done to Eddie Williams.

[@Elisabeth208]

Graham said he gained a big lot of weight in the USA 6kg or something he said it took him over 5 minute to get in his suit but Makarov needs a deadlift coach in my opinion because he pulls too heavy before a show and its the same 505 attempt every time

[@Vampire__Squid]

A lot of people don't know, Hafthor encourages people to beat his record, but sadly its not happening so he is gonna have to do it.

[@brentcecchini5843]

Hicks looks like he passed out. Also as noted, struggling at lockout and it looks like this is because he is way out of position (too far forward) past the knees. The extra bulk has diminishing returns. It forces you out of position and likely restricts blood flow and oxygen which contributes to the passing out.

[@joebot9309]

It’s (the weight gain and ultra high blood pressure) from taking way too many orals

[@michaelkirkland6573]

I want Hicks and Makarov to be coached by Rauno. He could get them both to 505. No need to commit for a year, probably three months would do it

[@daniel224nl]

That would be a conflict of interest

[@timbeech2056]

Tom had sciatica for this. Have a look at Mitch's 505 attempt too. He held his form better than anyone who's attempted it before, it was actually still going up when he put it down. I honestly think he surprised himself, he just wanted to feel the weight but if he'd been ready to grind, he might have had it. Never would have guessed that before hand. If he trains for it next year and doesn't get injured, he'll get it. Frankly, Graham and Ivan already should have though. If somebody had got 505kg, I still think Trey's deadlift might be more impressive. Especially with him coming back from injury and having lifted way less than that in competition just a few months ago. 470kg with no suit puts him as a problem for Thor on the elephant bar in next year's Arnolds.

[@RubbishGimpy]

Tom didn't.

[@grumk1ll655]

Imagine going on a once in a lifetime trip to Vegas for this and to end with 6 doing people the stones and noone really had a proper injury Imagine being Eddie Williams doing really well getting an amazing 3rd but everyone else acting like it doesn't matter because they've pulled out If I was Darren and Colin I'd be 'kin livid with these same guys pulling out more often than I do on girls on tinder.

[@DavidVirtanen]

In My Book Mitchell Is The 7th Greatest Strongmen Of All Time 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@goldilox811]

Shaw - Z Kaz-Jon Pall Pudz - Magnus Ver Mitch

[@jfried6754]

For Tom, I think he was being paid by Giants Live to just show up. The marketing was calling it "Hooper vs Stoltman is on", I think Tom was just after an easy paycheck and once he did the bare minimum to get it he pulled out. Even if is a good move for him personally, it really is unbecoming of a professional athlete who people pay money to see, and bad for the sport overall.

[@JBS7551]

100%

[@MrMoustache678]

Genetically Mitch has insane potential in almost every lift. If he bulked up the way Eddie did back in the day, he could definitely get the 505. But he likely won't do that since it would mess up his athleticism and longevity. He's in this sport to dominate for a long time, pretty much the opposite of Eddie's short peak.

[@a-a-rondavis9438]

Graham said he gained 6 kg from the trip to the time to lift. Something about his diet and such destroyed his ability to fit in the suit, and also a misgroove. It was all him. He also said as soon as he realized the suit was way too tight, his psyche crashed. He wasn't 100% confident anymore. Tom was also dealing (still somehow) with sciatica and pulled out. Evan tweaked his back and pulled out before he fully injured himself. A smart move if done sparsely, but this is his 2nd show in a row where that's happening.

[@joebot9309]

He gained weight and was off from taking way too much orals lol

[@DreJr]

I think Rogue should invite Trey anyway out of respect. He got injured on their event which for whatever has been said doesn't seem to have been set up like it should have been and his performances show he deserves to be at the invitational. Strongman has 'no rules' so make an exception. Invite Trey!

[@RubbishGimpy]

Don't forget Trey still can't hold stuff.

[@DreJr]

@@RubbishGimpy he's had those nerve issues for years and was invited to shows prior. So that really shouldn't matter for the invite.

[@petershortland478]

Tom had sciatica issues, and Evan had looked like he had pulled his back. Graham had put on weight during the week and as result his suit struggled to fit him and was struggling to breath

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

Being too fat for his suit is kind of a funny excuse.

[@strongestfan9823]

How do you know

[@tribeof2035]

Thank you for parroting the narrative and using their talking points. 🤦🏼

[@JBS7551]

I think Tom made yet another excuse and Graham blaming it purely on "American food" is bs

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

@@JBS7551 I think it's possible that he might have done some extra stress eating, but it still sounds quite ridiculous. Besides, not keeping track of his nutrition is a dumb mistake on his part.

[@ather001]

WSM is just a title of a show and is now considered not a true indicator of who the world's strongest man anymore. Comps like SMOE or Rogue are better indicators. I think Tom is more enamored with the title of the show and gets motivated to prep for it 🤷‍♀?

[@JBS7551]

True

[@antoniocenteno1483]

And the Arnold's

[@RubbishGimpy]

Its because its the only competition that brings fame. The other shows no ones heard off. Not enough people care about strongman. Fanboys proclaim that SMOE will eclipse WSM, it won't because no one outside of strongman has heard of it. Tom is the instagram generation, fame over substance is what matters to them. Its Tom's mentality that lets him down.

[@joebot9309]

Smoe is a disgrace. Arnold’s and Rouge are the top comps. Corrupt giants live and WSM are 4th rate comps

[@RubbishGimpy]

I completely agree about Mitch. Within 2 years of entering strongman he started to dominate it. He is always pushing himself and still has potential. To step up to 505kg for fun and out perform the dedicated lifters is embarrassing. Tom would not have won WSM 24 if Mitch didn't scuff his hands up. While Mitch is competing, Tom is never going to win another WSM. The Tom Mitch rivalry is dead. Makarov, Hicks, Rauno are never going to lift 505kg. Their not good enough. I'm no Mitch fanboy but he is going to the best strongman of all time unless he gets injured. 6x WSM, a 500+lift, longest podium streak etc. No one is on his level.

[@mediaproof960]

Hard to argue with those points. The level he is at is so far above the rest. Moose is a great nickname but Mitch "the machine" Hooper might be more accurate lol

[@espenstoro]

The only thing he's lacking is the longievity. He's got everything else.

[@createachanneltopost]

Mitch will probably retire before he gets 6 wsm. I don't think he has ambition to really push the longevity in strongman for health reasons.

[@LogHewer]

Rauno has the strength. Now we'll see if he has the durability.

[@sutton_trout]

Voinally

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

No one predicted that podium

[@verlainedewit4441]

Mitch works harder than all the other strongmen, he’s the only real pro in the sport (except maybe for Thor).

[@reallymysterious4520]

All that training for Graham - a whole year down the drain training for one event. Makarov struggled at 470 which was surprising so it was obvious he wouldn't have a chance at 505. Makarov trains too hard too close to the competition - he needs Lalas or Loz to coach him

[@jessehensley1812]

Trey looks better and better after his Achilles injury

[@LalasBrothers]

It's crazy right 😅

[@mattborman1768]

This showing from Tom is becoming far too common and Luke has done the same thing, showing up not in serious shape and pulls out early. Tom is tarnishing his own wins, if he was hurt then do the right thing and pull out outside of that Mitch is showing there really is no reason guys can’t stay in competition shape for most of the year.

[@mediaproof960]

It's definitely disappointing from Tom. That being said, Mitch is an absolute one off. Not many humans can stay in top form that often.

[@DorlaVegas-cw2kz]

Thor has a plan. Im wondering how much over will he move the bar. Before his retirement

[@sage6336]

Graham wont ever break the the 500

[@9256steven]

A very disappointing deadlift show, the top guys are going backward except MH.

[@xaviermitchell578]

Four 470kg deadlifts and new strongman raw world record is very awesome imo

[@byzantinebill]

This comp was really disappointing, and I'm glad I didn't go. With people over-hyping their abilities, people pulling out, Evan's behavior afterward. Mitchell Hooper is only reason I'm hanging on, which is disappointing to say.

[@RubbishGimpy]

Everything in strongman is overhyped. Keep in mind Giants Live try to emilate WWE.

[@artiegray8195]

Mitch Hooper made a video and said Tom Stoltman is dealing with a sciatica problem and Evan Singleton has a small back injury

[@iliasbabatsikos]

Thor is more than capable of breaking the world record.....

[@larkinj27]

Hicksy put a video up saying he flew out on Monday and after nearly a week there he had put 6KGs on. He could hardly get into his deadlift suit and he didn't have any backup option. So he couldn't breath properly on that 470 (or the other lifts).

[@grumk1ll655]

It's a cool story, but it also looked like it was 5kg heavier than the 465kg he struggled with.

[@busabros2480]

I was saying for months hicks was nowhere near 500kg realistically.

[@grumk1ll655]

@busabros2480 just had to look at mitchs 470, he gave himself 10% chance and it was infinitely better than hix 465, the only 2 people to pull 500 made every pull before look like nothing was on the bar, you can't struggle a lift then add 2 blues and think your gonna pull it.

[@bronchoped]

His lock out at 425kg was already showing as a weakness though. Peaked too early unfortunately

[@larkinj27]

Also saw a video from Mitch where he said Tom had sciatica. Haven't seen anything from Tom about it. I was hoping Tom would do well here. It must be hard to decide what to compete in but as you say it might be better for Tom to reduce, even if it was half the comps and show up in good form. Trey looked excellent obviously but it was also nice to see Luke back and doing pretty well for his first comp back. I was surprised maybe Bobby Thompson didn't get a go, he looked good at Shaw's and his deadlift is decent!

[@edwatson4997]

👍

[@scottsuydam3349]

Eddie was mentally right for that lift and used hypnotism to put himself in the zone on that day. I thought this comp was very boring and uneventful. Having a tie for first made the comp so lame. Trey was the most impressive for the whole comp.

[@joebot9309]

Lmao near death drama Eddie

[@mariusjohansen702]

Yeah don't see why Tom tries to do other shows, he doesnt seem to be able to prep properly. He has had some podiums, but he most of the time looks much better in training, then can't follow trough. Graham eating too much and wasting a year of training is horrible tho... I was thinking he had the best shot at it, but not tracking your food for a week, american food which is useually loaded with waaaay too much fat. Loved seeing Trey and Eddie on the podium. Still think it sucks seeing Novikov underperform, a few years ago he wasn't off the podium.

[@p1te]

What do you think about Hooper's comments in his latest video about him breaking the DL world record?

[@DavidVirtanen]

Awesome He Should Go To The 505 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@ronancampbell1366]

Im not a fan of the time zone argument. Mitch, Evan and others from north America can come to the UK and win. Eddie came from the other side of the world and finished on the podium

[@bronchoped]

One has to remember tom has been competing for a long time now. He has one big peak per year. Happens every year. Not everyone can be a mitch, thor, z, brian etc

[@LalasBrothers]

@@bronchoped if he can peak once a year, than he should just compete once a year and for the rest of the year just be a good ambassador for strongman sport.

[@beardeddiabolus]

You guys didn't talk about Eddie Williams nearly enough.

[@leathalkizzle935]

Watch what you say about Tom not turning up and it being a waste of time. When this got called out at the first UK Arnolds , the whole Stoltman clan was on social media defending it

[@LalasBrothers]

we will always say what we think and never try to sensor ourselves. If someone doesn't like that, so be it.

[@Krackerz92]

No love for Eddie Williams?????

[@declanosullivan8749]

You’d feel sorry for all the strongmen competing now, it’s like competing against prime Usain Bolt, he just makes them all just look ordinary Hooper when he’s done with the sport will have many world records that will take a decade or more to beat Feel for Thor as well, Hooper will take that deadlift wr and nothing he will be able to do about it

[@andrewchristie2713]

There was a paper if memory serves a few years ago that showed that strength can drop by 10-20% in excessive heat. Giants and wsm seem to like a wr so why not increase those chances by holding shows in a more clement atmosphere.

[@splinter357d6]

I was there and yes it was hot but it was legit cold inside the casino/hotel. People don’t hang out outside and arena is connected to the hotel. Graham was running around having fun and that’s on him.

[@JBS7551]

It was inside a climate controlled area.

[@andrewchristie2713]

@@JBS7551 👍

[@andrewchristie2713]

@@splinter357d6 👍

[@bandinopla]

saying you can hit 505 and failing 470 is hard on the ego...

[@RubbishGimpy]

Hicks, well, he's either making an excuse or he's an idiot. Who trains methodically for a year to do a deadlift just to throw all your discipline away in the last week and not control yourself. Hicks is the muscliest I have seen him, probaby the strongest too. I just think he peaked to early. 2 months ago would of been ideal for him.

[@Juliussmoothie]

the whole "plane to america" argument, i definetly disagree with. thats not mentioned when WSM is in america. traveling isnt new for the athletes, not saying its easy to travel but the athletes in north america still put on shows going over seas

[@nastynate4481]

He doesn't lock it out in training why would you expect him to do it in competition?

[@skude3]

I feel like Tom would do a lot better with a proper coach, his training seems kinda sporadic at times