Our Rodent Breeding Setup!

People have been asking for a long time to see our rat and mice breeding setup. We've been hesitant because we're worried people will be upset that we breed rodents for reptile food... But we hope that today's video helps explain why we do what we do (hey, a snake's gotta eat), and what we provide to make the rodents' lives as good as feasibly possible! Oh boy, I'm nervous about this one... O_O
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[@helloemma]

Not going to lie, as someone who has owned rats, this does make me sad. BUT, this is probably the best care I have ever seen for feeders rats/mice, which does make me feel a bit better.

[@violentvixen592]

Considering most breeders for feeder rodents tend to keep the rodents in communal bins, I would say this is much better quality of life comparatively. I love rats and rodents, so I completely get the tint of sadness. But also, if it helps, remember that they won't be in there long, unlike pets n_n. Also also if it helps, I think we can all agree that Emily and Ed will treat the rodents with as much care and respect as they do with all their other animals.

[@M011y.]

I own pet mice and it’s heartbreaking for me to see this. It’s not so much that they’ll be eaten, because the snakes etc. needs to eat, it’s that these rodents do not get to exhibit they’re natural behaviours. They are intelligent animals and deserve to be given a happy life, no matter how long it will be.

[@porcuMoose]

the dumbo rats and special hair morphs(like the hairless) broke my heart the most

[@itsthatonechickagaincallth7843]

Honestly, this is better than the care I've seen from most rat owners, not even breeders.

[@ohrats731]

@@itsthatonechickagaincallth7843 ugh yeah it’s sad that a lot of people keep their pet rats/mice worse than this. When I was little we had a horrible cage for two rats but the internet is so prevalent now there’s really no excuse to keep doing it. These racks do make me kind of sad but you’ll never see breeders using pet setups because they’ll go out of business. I wish there were a way though. What makes me feel better is knowing that they will keep the cages clean and have the air purifier

[@haleylikescheese]

My mind was BLOWN when Emily said that she is 5'11". You can never tell with cameras!

[@sheepandotter]

true I didn’t know she was that short

[@chiochi4142]

Some times I thought she was very tall

[@blep2695]

Im 5'3 right now and I'm ten ( I don't mind sharing my age, I know its wrong in certain conditions. No need to say anything about me and i shouldn't share my age)

[@wolftango6084]

Dang, she's tall!

[@blep2695]

@@wolftango6084 She is.

[@zoefix7326]

As a pet rat owner, this makes me very happy because even though these rats are meant to be food and you could easily just throw them in teeny tiny bins with just food and water and call it a day you made some effort to make their lives slightly more interesting. I love my pet rats but I understand that all pets need to eat, I’m glad your treating the feeder rats well though ☺️

[@rando-1.0]

Yes!

[@theonewithallthepets8503]

same

[@spinnyquack56]

if you do believe that, as a "pet rat" owner, then you are no better than the people breeding rodents in horrible conditions. The bins are incredibly small, rats CANNOT possibly live in there without suffering any consequences to their health being. I would do some more research on pet rats because clearly, you're missing out on stuff...

[@zoefix7326]

@@spinnyquack56 actaully I did do months of research, my rolling group lives in a double critter nation with hammocks ropes bridges toys all of the stuff, they have their own cat tree and get 2 hours of play time daily, their lives are full of enrichment and they are very happy so yeah. I don’t think I’m as bad as a rodent breeder

[@poopfart7618]

@@spinnyquack56 how would you fix it then? they need to feed their snakes and do it efficiently in one room. They are already doing a lot in terms of enrichment

[@ollie7173]

As a rat owner, it makes me so happy to see them being treated humanely, even if they are feeders there’s no excuse for them to be abused, so I appreciate the time and effort you put into making sure they’re happy when they’re in your care

[@mondooowada3537]

This is infinitely better than most lab or breeding setups. The fact that any one of these feeders could be taken out and kept as a well adjusted pet is a sign of good care, good genes, and good health.

[@cells-n-stuff]

In the U.S. any good lab has to go through IACUC, who has strict rules to how lab animals must be treated. For mice/rats they will need to be kept in social groups, have hides/enrichment (including toys, nesting bedding, and treats), and they also must be fed a diet approved by the ULAR. Most labs also have a veterinarian on call who will care for their needs at anytime of day or night. Most labs I've been to have large enclosures and the animals are cared for very well. This wasn't always the case but now they have cracked down on any mistreatments, it has gotten significantly better for the animals. Can't say I have any experience with breeding set ups, but hopefully they care for the animals as much as Emily and Ed.

[@dragonsoul123]

@@cells-n-stuff same in Europe. Minimum size of enclosures, having the animals in proper conditions, enough food and water. And it is a damned hussle to get approval for experiments, especially those including harming the animal. Which, sadly needs to be done. You can't make a study on pain with no pain involved. But it is very strictly regulated. And it is forbidden to teat cosmetics on animals in the EU. Only medical testing. Which is very strictly regulated unless you work with euthanized animals only (e.g. to harvest cells/tissue). Then the faciluty you buy them off must stick to all the rules.

[@dragonsoul123]

@@narichan yes of course. This is not compareable. But it has to be noted that the times of animals being held in caged whete they can barely move, starving and hurting, are fortunately over in well regulated countries such as the EU or the US.

[@cells-n-stuff]

@@narichan What? That's what I said. Most labs I've been to have had Large enclosures and the animals have been treated well. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I said labs use these specific enclosures would pass. I just wanted to explain some lab conditions so that any fallacious ideas on how animals are treated are not promoted...

[@veganforanimals1298]

I don't want to hate, but fact is, that mice and rats need more space than in this video. I have 4 mice myself and keep them in a 150 centimeters high and 80 by 80 centimeters square. I see every single day that they need this space and even if you breed or if this animals will be food for others, they always should have an incredible live till they have to die. So even if in this video the set up is better than somewhere else, it's still not okay.

[@laurelh1975]

As someone who has had pet rats for a long time, they will always have a special place in my heart. When I got my first snake last year, I'll admit, when I got my first delivery of frozen feeders and had to thaw one out for my snake, I teared up a bit. (I teared up a lot.. it was maybe a little bit of a cry.) The rat had very similar colours to my favourite pet rat from years past, and was a weaned one. Still small, but very clearly a rat. I remember literally thinking, "Oh this is indeed a rat." It was a bit of a mental hurdle to overcome, but I would never deny my snakes their food or insist they try to eat non-meat options (as some people do with their cats & dogs, but that's another rant.) Emily & Ed, I really appreciate the care and attention you've put into this breeding room. I've seen other videos where breeders just fill their bins up as much as possible and have no enrichment, and it's heart breaking. While this video was hard to watch in its own way, it was also really reassuring to know that, even though you guys know they are for food, you still care that they have hides, that they have chew toys & snacks, and that you're clearly paying enough attention to them to figure out which ones are more friendly, better parents, etc. You are wonderful caretakers & breeders, even of the future food in your care.

[@skrubknight884]

the people that try to vegan-feed dogs and cats are a special kind of stupid

[@Leo-ev6dy]

You wouldn't have to you can feed them all kind of 🍖 meat

[@takumi2023]

Oh I have no such inhibitions towards insects but I'd get a lizard in that case.

[@alana.dyer.author]

I have cats and dogs and a hedgehog thats an omnivore....my pets get spoiled with ground chicken and beef (cooked of course) People who feed their carnivores veggies just are a special kind of animal abusers.

[@skrubknight884]

@Kathia Amaro they don't have enough braincells to realize not everything is omnivorous like us. not even going into nutrition, too much plant matter is hard on the digestive systems of carnivores, but they don't see that till the animals start becoming ill or suffer injury, and even then they might not associate it. hell, up until recently when we were able to engineer microbes to produce B12 in a vat, humans had to eat at least some meat or foods fortified with B12 from meat or we would eventually die.

[@michelledoolin3769]

I know this is an old video, but I am rematching this one. Another excellent point not mentioned is that by rotating the males through the bins, all the females get a nice break in between litters so they aren't over bred. Awesome care as always from Emily and Ed.

[@Birds4lifeAnya]

19:30 smh

[@jasmine6877]

@@Birds4lifeAnya huh ?

[@mfraye12]

@@Birds4lifeAnya Be more vague

[@ycaklyee3380]

As a rodent and reptile owner this makes me so happy!! I see most stores shove ALL of them in a small box with no toys although these aren’t pets they have a purpose it’s great setup! Please allow some of your staff to give snuggles! Rats are super affectionate and form strong bonds with humans and other animals!

[@JustHamsters]

ah yes ending rodents makes you happy.

[@mexicahotcheetoes.5107]

I don't know if you want to bond with soon-to-be-eaten rats. (Rats r cute tho :) . )

[@discordiacreates6669]

I'm sorry but while they probably would enjoy some gentle cuddling, you really do NOT want to do so with feeders of any species. The problem isn't their enjoyment, it's how hard it can make it to actually feed them to another pet, which is an issue if you own a predator that only accepts live food and you're raising your own food ^^'. Believe me, I keep insect feeders and I actually like bugs so I've delt with some guilt over feeding them. That's ofc why I specifically keep one colony of not food insects so I have an excuse to pamper some of them, we're not all perfect ^^'

[@poopfart7618]

@@JustHamsters how else are they supposed to feed their snakes lmao

[@burntbeansoup]

​@poopfart Frozen rodents are better for the safety of the reptile.

[@johnDoe-gv8si]

Even the animals destined to be feed are treated with affection and dignity and I really appreciate that you go through that effort.

[@sheepandotter]

yea :D

[@tiskky7385]

they dont even have water dishes to clean themselves or proper food and should never be kept in tubs so no and not to mention the wood shavings

[@milkfather1781]

@@tiskky7385 their entire life is to be fed to reptiles. Their welfare doesn't matter.

[@Tallglassofredwine]

@@milkfather1781 who thinks like this? This isn’t how nature works.

[@sara.wyssog]

I have to agree 👍

[@Spectorwing]

It was so easy to forget during this video that these rats are being raised with the purpose to breed food for snakes. I think it displays that while yes you acknowledge these rodents are food, you still treat them with decency.

[@fourearwolf3315]

Yeah, I keep forgetting that too which made me start to feel bad for them since they’re so cute. I’m happy that she’s taking good care of them though.

[@Emmuzka]

There is the same issue with feeder fish. Just because they are bred for food, it doesn't mean that they wouldn't deserve a healthy, decent life.

[@AletheaWilliams-x-]

Yeah it is sad to know what is going to happen, but they keep there close ones because they can't just take alife from the favourite 😕

[@meercaat9936]

I think it's just bc they are colorful and sweet...I mean when they are all the same(I mean the albino mice and that) than you don't get attached...it is sad...but it's more humane than what we do to eat chickens...and stuff...at least these guys die by falling a sleep

[@FelineBlue]

@@meercaat9936 yeah for sure, any animals produced for human consumption would be in far worse conditions than this and killed in brutal factory methods. i think it just goes to show that Emily and Ed have so much care and compassion even for animals they are being for feeding other animals

[@ryanw7706]

I think it was Temple Grandin that said "If we are going to use animals food, they deserve the best life and most comfortable death we can provide them". You guys are doing waaaay better than most would. I live near NERD in NH (sort of). I drive 30 minutes out of my way for feeders there knowing they have a better and healthier life with them instead of local stores which are known to neglect them. I want my snake happy and healthy. That means their food needs to have been well cared for as well. Again, you guys are doing amazing! Id love to visit if i was closer!

[@EllieMcDonald]

[@sassycatlarkin]

Please do an update! I love seeing the colorful little rats and mice. They are so cute. Your setup is a great way to humanly raise feeders. I love how you breed for more than just good mothers, but also for quality and color. Keep it up Emily and Ed!

[@chuckthebrindlepittie6820]

Quality and color looks adorable frozen and thawed.

[@cloudyskyz2237]

@@chuckthebrindlepittie6820 Jesus Christ what is your problem? You are commenting on every single comment in this comment section. I love having reptiles. They are so incredible to watch enjoying life. And no, Emily and Ed are not doing this just for money. Their snakes are actually sold fairly cheaply for the kinds of morphs they produce. Not to mention, they receive HUNDREDS of rescues every single month. I didn’t know caring about what happens to abandoned animals means you have no heart. And complaining about snakes eating food is bizarre. Do you think every single animal that eats meat is horrible and heartless? Are you one of those people who thinks humans taught wild animals how to eat meat? Edit: I worked at a pet store. The mice and rats all were kept in 5-10 gallon tanks. No enrichment. No hides. Broken water bottles. They were horribly bred (every single day I had to remove multiple dead rodents from the tanks, it was horrible). They weren’t held at all, so they were skittish and bit all the time. It was horrific. So to see Emily and Ed putting so much care and thought into taking care of these rodents is incredible. And you should watch till the later half of the video. They explain why they have chosen to do what they do. And they got WAY bigger racks so the young rats can have much more room to play.

[@el5001]

​@chuckthebrindlepittie6820 the snakes gotta eat something

[@chuckthebrindlepittie6820]

@@el5001 What value is there in being a "cute" rodent, when they are all snuffed for same purpose? Please explain why "cute" rodents tastes better, are more nutritious, than an average-looking, or even an "uncute" rodent. Will be interested in your explanation.

[@cloudyskyz2237]

@@chuckthebrindlepittie6820 I see you blatantly ignored my comment. I guess it doesn’t fit your narrative about how awful snakes and Ed and Emily are. What a shame. And to give an explanation to your query: in no way shape or form is it about pretty rats/mice being tastier. It is simply about enjoying a hobby. Sure, in the long run the rodents will be culled to feed other animals, but why not enjoy them while you have them? As someone who owns mice, I can personally say it is much more satisfying to have mice who have cool patterns or coat colors. It gets rather boring when they’re all solidly black, grey or white. Ik shocking I can own both pet mice and snakes and still feed my snakes rodents.

[@lyricdemers8203]

I am a rat lover and I absolutely ADORE your setup. People really shouldn't be comparing it to a pet setup, but to other rat-breeding-for-feeding set ups. If they do that it's very easy to see how much you guys care.

[@mpk6664]

@Crystal hare Because these aren't "pets". Most of them are going to be feeders. Compared to other breeders this setup is luxurious.

[@boglenight1551]

@Crystal hare Because if we remove the mid points you’ll only have extremes at both ends, including the bad end. People keep snakes, snakes need to eat, therefore someone needs to provide what snakes eat.

[@StoutShako]

@Crystal hare If you wanted pet-like setups for the rats, they might be able to keep 25 or so in that room. There's no way you could feed an entire zoo like that. People need to be realistic. They gave them enrichment, hides, chew toys, companionship, and keeps everything cleaner than I keep my apartment. They're doing a great job.

[@boglenight1551]

@@samf8894 I did not say that. However if you want rat feeders to stop, it doesn’t start at the rats, it starts with the snakes. Whether or not you see what Snake Discovery does as mistreatment is irrelevant, it’s the best marble in that bag.

[@amorachinchilla]

i might genuinely cry right now, as a rodent breeder it's absolutely tragic how most reptile keepers treat their feeder animals. the entire video i was thinking "okay, i know you guys are good with reptile enrichment, but..." "okay, those are way better sized than most feeder setups, but..." and then you guys really just keep giving and giving and actually put things in there for them. it may not be perfect for a pet, but it's far better than anything i've ever seen from feeder breeders, and i certainly wouldn't be sad to see this. thank you guys.

[@Kvs-vf9nt]

They are a pest they may happy for the maximum a month they live to get all this. A lobster lives much longer still many restaurants treat them much worse than and rodent breeders there rodents. I have to seek every time that they had a good life and ask looking behind the scenes before I would eat a lobster. So come on. If would feet you to my crocodiles I would give you good food and everything you need to. But I would not build you a mansion.... (Just an example I have NO crocodiles!)

[@C00keis901]

Ty for not being a hater because they feed rodents to snakes you are a kind person

[@amorachinchilla]

@@C00keis901 Of course not! It's like getting mad that cats need to eat meat. I love mice and rats, and they're wonderful pets, but that doesn't mean that they aren't also a food source for other animals. As long as they're being treated with respect while they're alive, I'm happy.

[@Firstfalconfree]

From someone who used to breed mice for AFRMA shows, I second aaaalll this. This video makes me want rodents again. 🥰

[@youn_A]

@@amorachinchilla Thank you, there’s this dude on yt calling cats and other animals “BEASTS” for eating prey.

[@jadedkitty728]

this video actually got me a new perspective on how tall the racks are, I always assumed Emily was average height, now every snake discovery video with a rack in it will NEVER BE THE SAME

[@prezhenz6969]

Right!? 5’11 is so tall

[@kassandrayoung3405]

Emily, Ed, this really shows that you guy's aren't just reptile lovers or in this for money. the level of care you show to even feeder rats is incredible! so many keepers should act the ways you two do. Such a blessing to herp keepers (and honestly just pet lovers) everywhere!

[@handlingit6379]

I’m glad she mentions that these are way too small for pet rats, they make great pets and NEED space and enrichment, more than snakes so if you want them I’d recommend them if you have the space

[@Feezee223]

The fact that they need space, them being social and the fact that I have a cat is why I’m waiting until I don’t live with my parents to get rats because I really want them but I just wouldn’t be able to properly care for them right now.

[@honeybiscuit1457]

People don't realize that keeping rodents for breeding is different from keeping rodents for pets. There's a reason rats and mice build nests for their young.. Because they feel more secure in a smaller space when they have babies. For a pet rat you wanted to breed once, you'd just give them a nesting box inside of their large enclosure.. But for breeding rats... Literally all they're there for is breeding. You design the enclosure based on suiting their ideal breeding conditions.

[@handlingit6379]

@@Feezee223 I have a cat too, I just make sure she doesn’t come into my room but when I move out I’d like a small room dedicated to rats because the can be noisy (eg it’s 4:30am currently and they are running around their cage lmao)

[@charlenefaye]

I have to say I was worried and shocked when I saw those raks. But I do understand their situation and I am happy they do their best.

[@handlingit6379]

@@honeybiscuit1457 it’s just that they’ll live they’re entire lives in these racks until Being sold, I understand having the space they need is not economical and I don’t really have a solution but I just don’t like the idea of adult rats living in bins they can hardly stand up in

[@zolfirthedragon]

Your rodents are being kept as snake food, and still you treat them better than a LOT of pet owners treat theirs.

[@ratattack246]

With how calm they all were being handled, you can tell they are taken very good care of. Your setup looks so good!

[@ratattack246]

I really love snakes, and in the future when I have the space, I want to have a large collection. My plan was always to breed my own feeders, and this seems like it works super well

[@PegzieBean]

It is a controversial topic but it does have to be talked about. I've owned rats as pets and how I got started was because my snake rejected a rat. From then on we ended up feeding frozen mice to him. I truly appreciate you covering this topic. I also am extremely impressed and wow'd by how you treat your rodents; regardless if they are food or pet. A lot of pet stores don't even do that for their pet rats!! I wish I lived closer to you guys!!

[@lowknees1959]

I'm a rat owner, and I knew watching this my feelings might be a little hurt, but Emily and Ed, you are doing a FANTASTIC job! You're doing everything you can to responsibly breed, you clearly know your stuff, and want to give these animals a decent, good quality of life while they are still on this earth. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being so responsible and humane.

[@lilydrawsart5756]

This! All my rats have been feeder bin babies as there aren't any breeders near me. I came go snake discovery a bit ago and got 2 of my dream rats. They were also genuinely very nice and needed no work with temperament. They are getting along very well with my 3 other girls. Too. Very proud of them for their setup!

[@voydheart9144]

@@lilydrawsart5756 Same, I rescued all mine from feeder bins at petstores(poor conditions) now you make me wanna make the trip to Snake Discovery for some new bogglers

[@ninovardidze7951]

What is that rat on Emily's right doing on 20:00

[@ZombxAutoPilot]

@@ninovardidze7951 if you're referring to the white and black one it looks like its cleaning itself

[@livvygrossmann6004]

As a mouse owner, I agree 100%!!

[@Amanda-xx5uf]

I have rats and yes, I love them a lot and there are those existential crisis moments where you think about them as food... But as Emily said, circle of life. I know way too many breeders who don’t even have pet rat set ups this nice. It’s a touchy subject, but I think they tackled it well and with transparency.

[@fenfeirthehighwayman8049]

Yea I agree Feeding is the hardest part for me and my girls a rescue and she will only eat live but growing up I have a pet nice I really just love some sort of way to at least be able to get food for my snake that lived a good life I’d pay extra not gonna lie

[@charlygestern6556]

I don’t undestand why you would keep pets that eat other pets if you don’t like killing them. It’s like „oooh pigs are so cute!“ and still eating them. It’s not the circle of live, if it’s not outside in nature. You don’t have to kill them.

[@Amanda-xx5uf]

@@charlygestern6556 I don’t eat my pets. I don’t eat any meat, actually. But it’s still the circle of life when it’s animals and they don’t have a choice in their dietary restrictions.

[@ObjectoMenace]

I think it's really cool that they're being bred to be good moms. I also love the soft furrs and just how their mini "society" functions. I really want a snake but the matter of feeding is the only thing keeping me away, but it's really nice to see these rodents getting the best possible quality of life before being used for food. From what I know from watching this channel is that they mainly feed their reptiles frozen thawed. The majority of these animals will be killed humanely and painlessly with CO2 (please correct me if I'm wrong), never experiencing the fear and pain of being killed and swallowed by a snake

[@kaitlynredfield]

You can also use repta links if you don’t want to feed rats or mice

[@slightlydistressedslug6627]

🥰

[@wolfrevenant1489]

They will be killed with CO2 most likely - sadly it’s not painless, that gas activates the bodies panic response/urge to breathe. It’s basically the same feeling as drowning or being suffocated, it’s not a nice way to die at all. Wish there were more humane options.

[@roundhouse2616]

@@wolfrevenant1489 There are! Nitrogen does not trigger the suffocation response. It's only CO2 that does this, so there are other gasses that can be used for euthanasia. You can also use nitrogen mixed with a normal level of CO2 to make the nitrogen last longer.

[@justsomeonewithtoomuchfreetime]

As a rodent and snake lover, I love how you're humane with the rodents, and explain why they are necessary for snakes.

[@linneasjolander9307]

As a pet rat breeder I’m honestly suprised at how well You are caring for them, they all have a decent amount of space and plenty of enrichment, love seeing feeder breeders that actually care about the animals physical and mental health while they are alive. Would love to see more videos on how You breed them all too

[@voydheart9144]

Same, my experience with feeders has been sad,(Mostly bought some from the bins to give them better life) but these lil guys all have a good setup

[@TheBitchspotReport]

Yup. As a former pet and show animal breeder, those racks are top of the line. So long as they have an employee go in every now and then and play with the animals, they'll wind up very tame.

[@kt141211311]

I’m happy to learn that those bins provide a decent amount of space, I was worried

[@linneasjolander9307]

@@kt141211311 they aren’t amazing, espessuly for pets but when compared to what’s ”normal” for feeder breeders they are great, I’ve seen people put 5-8 rats in those bins so 2-3 is great and they are usually bare with nothing but substrate and food but these have hides and enrichment

[@linneasjolander9307]

@@TheBitchspotReport and check the water is working and not filming the bins, I’ve seen and heard alot of horror storys about that style water system but if cheched at least once a day it shouldn’t be an issue

[@emilymcdonald7513]

I think it's good to learn where food comes from. People will complain that you raise rodents for food when they are very likely eating meat from cows/chicken/pigs that may have not had a comfy life

[@olingecko]

Yeah, I realized this when I put rats in my freezer. It's not so weird when I realize that there are other meats in there too.

[@lemonshark4961]

And getting feeders from somewhere else is still doing the same thing. I think it makes people uncomfortable when they have to see the process up close

[@SquishyRogue]

@@lemonshark4961 they are the exact people who should see the process then. Eating and feeding meat is good, but be aware of where it is from and how it got from the world to your plate/your animals stomach. Offer the food you eat and feed the respect it deserves by knowing how it came to be there.

[@lemonshark4961]

@@SquishyRogue yes! I think a lot more people would advocate for animal wellness if they saw the process and theyd have to face the reality of death. It's very uncomfortable but we'd be better off as a society if we stopped hiding death from ourselves. Everything has to die eventually so that others might live

[@dragonbornluna5274]

These are the vegans I can get behind! Unless you guys arn't vegan then that's okay too. Cause it really hurts me that animals live such horrible lives.......so sad....

[@natalieheelein7727]

One of the best parts about Emily and Ed is they always do things very ethically and will do right for any animal in their care. They educate themselves and don’t cut corners when animal care is concerned. No matter how one feels about breeding rats as food, they still do things the best way for the animal

[@lindsayschmidt2177]

As a rodent lover as well as a snake lover, I’m so glad you give your mice and rats (as well as the African soft-furs, that’s a new species I didn't know about!) the best lives you can before they go on to become feeders. It may seem like a small gesture, but they all seem like very happy, healthy animals.

[@dark1alucard]

mandy is just padding her resume at this point. she can do all the jobs.

[@phangirlable]

I think at this point we have to change the term Jack of all Trades to Mandy of all Trades. XD

[@tomk2010]

@@phangirlable or simply Mandy=Jack of all trades ie, you're a regular Mandy aren't you?

[@cindyshaw7364]

Sure most of them are used to feed snakes but this is one of the most humane set ups I've ever seen, you guys definitely take great care of your rodents and give them the best life possible

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@kaelynluvsya]

This helped my perspective, thank you! I’ve followed them for awhile and always knew they take fabulous care of their animals, but gosh I still found it hard to know these lil guys are mostly food.

[@Lulu-xl5cm]

If this is humane....I'm scared to see any other way because THIS is TERRIBLE! The rats are miserable.

[@SandstormL]

How is this humane when those set ups can easyily give respitory infections? Oof.

[@wrendrawsstuff6403]

@@SandstormL As an owner of rats and mice, these shavings may not be the safest for them, but they are super susceptible to lung issues either way. These rats and mice aren’t going to live long enough to develop those issues either way, I’d say it’s pretty humane

[@zakmac95]

Rate that you guys could have easily maximized profit by ramming the drawers full but chose enrichment over profit. Legends.

[@mandylydena24]

I know this is old, but I’m very happy to see these guys being cared for properly. I have a snake, and also recently added feeder mice to the family as pets. They were not socialized and will bite me (not remotely aggressive, just over enthusiastic), but that’s not their fault and I want to give them the best life possible. ☺️

[@yukievans381]

Snake discovery: *breeds rodents solely for consumption* Also snake discovery: "Look at all da little babiiiieeees I love you guys. hope you're comfortable. do you guys need another Ipad?"

[@ReganFree93]

She said she was working to breed cool colors so I wonder if they plan to sell as pets too?

[@personoffline6949]

@@ReganFree93 Yeah they'll have a "secret bin" under the counter for selling rats to people. I'm not sure if it's as pets but yes

[@ratsandus450]

Lol

[@KnightslayerK8]

Its the promised neverland all over again

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@just.groovy]

I remember when Ed never wanted to be heard or seen on camera. I’m so glad he’s come out of his shell so much.

[@themurrrr]

Same, he’s such a sweetheart

[@romywhite290]

He's fun!

[@aleciab83]

I was thinking the same thing. I like when we hear Ed educate us or explain things. I like Ed showing his brain power!

[@chantelmurphy2397]

I was thinking the exact same thing!! Great minds think alike 😄😄

[@boglenight1551]

He’s such a cutie!! If he’s bi and they break up, truly the worst thing I can imagine as they’re so perfect together, then I’m totally gonna fly to America and try my chances.

[@jkkgron2]

Rat owner here. I just wanted to say thank you for treating your feeders so well, rats are very intelligent and it’s really refreshing to see a good breeding set up for them. I don’t have any problems with using rats and mice as feeders. Snakes need to eat too. But it’s just really great to see how well taken care of they are. I’m not saying this setup is ideal for pet rats, but it’s really great compared to most feeder set ups.

[@dokkisse9075]

I own both rodents and snakes, and I appreciate the work you put into the housing for the rodents, even if they're meant to be food.

[@maylagesse]

Does Mandy live in the facility? Do you guys have her locked up in there? 😂

[@cicelypatterson3927]

she gets no food except for dairy queen runs next door, she sleeps in the padded crawling area beneath rex's enclosure XD

[@ladyunknown101]

Mandy has her own enclosure in the zoo i bet

[@willow7555]

@@ladyunknown101 100%

[@malinjohansson6942]

@@cicelypatterson3927 😂😂😂

[@shizukaakatatsu22]

@@ladyunknown101 the zoo IS her enclosure

[@billybitemark2678]

Ya know those days without an incident boards? You should have one of those but for ‘how many days since last escape’ 😂

[@anogaft1543]

YES

[@fannysvensson8511]

Yes please! 😍

[@ilikebeans4138]

YESS

[@angeliota.]

YESS

[@asht1261]

OMG PLEASE

[@birchbarks550]

The fact that all of these are clearly social, happy and arent showing signs of fear or aggression really shows how well you treat them and how good this setup is, owning animals that eat meat always comes with the needed evil of something dying to keep the animal fed and alive, this is probably THE best way to do it!

[@floopyboo]

As someone who has had a pet rat before, I am SO GLAD y'all are treating your feeders well.

[@ItsMattF]

I really appreciate people who see even their "feeder" animals as important and deserving of good quality of life. It's one of the things I'm most squeamish about in terms of snake ownership (which is why I only keep frugivore/insecivore lizards at the moment). Hopefully I'll get over my qualms in the future. Thank you for caring about ALL your animals. 💕

[@heysaucemikehere1804]

I’m glad that you recognize your comfort level when it comes to feeding snakes!! Super important. I’ve heard of a lot of snake owners who own snakes that should be eating a staple of rodents, but don’t because they aren’t comfortable with it. Props to you for putting an animals health before your wanting a snake!

[@ItsMattF]

I’m all about giving my animals the best lives they could have. So if I can’t give it to them, I can’t own them. It makes me really sad (and a little mad to be honest) when people just buy pets without research. I do a minimum of 6 months of learning before making the decision that I can care for the new animal. We are their whole world and they deserve the best. I’m always thrilled with how well Ed and Emily care for their animals.

[@Matt-rm9xh]

@@ItsMattF completely agree with that (why I'll never get a insect eating reptile or anything cuz I have a fear of bugs lol) and so many people should really follow how you do 6 months of research before hand

[@kenziee5386]

i always make sure they have a comfy home but i can’t get to attached because then i will just keep the mouse 😭

[@anonymixx8106]

I agree, I feel the same about humans eating animals. If you're gonna ask them to sacrifice their lives to become food, at least give them a healthy loving life. Otherwise you're just feeding suffering

[@Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad]

You can tell that Emily was very sad when she was discussing the fact that they're smart but they make a good diet for snakes

[@evaellis3933]

i know i think it's so sad

[@buggibii]

I'd LOVE an update to this video, just to see how you feel about the setup now after two years!! How much has changed? What have you been doing differently from then to now? What are your future plans for your current setup? What upgrades have you gotten/plan to get? I'm really interested!! ❤

[@dannestoddard9268]

As a rat owner, this made me so happy to see. Even if they are breeders and feeders, they're happy, healthy and well cared for.

[@suprisedfrog2784]

"Hey you peed on me" is now taking the cake for the best rodent name I've ever heard.

[@heyits_grey2533]

Agreed

[@timberwolf1575]

How about "Stop biting me!"

[@wolfofwisdom360]

Or… Stop tickling my armpit… wait no go back to tickling my armpit, stop biting my t1t!

[@obsydian_jay]

I love how much effort they put into giving every animal a good life, even the animals that are food. Most facilities wouldn't care about their rodents, but they got all their rodents toys and hides. They all seem happy and healthy, they can even handle them with no stress signs from the animal! I love this

[@jazmynallard1887]

Love your profile pic .I love twenty one pilots

[@GoldintoBlack02]

The rats actually seem to be very very skittish, way worse than mine, but as long as they aren’t aggressive nbd. The mice are amazing temperamented, I hope I can find handleable mice when I get back into them.

[@mollyqr.]

Oh my god- we have the same name, and we both like 21 pilots. I also love snake discovery omg-

[@obsydian_jay]

@@mollyqr. That's so funny!!

[@GoldintoBlack02]

@@llamawalrushybrid Every rat I saw her pick up were scrabbling to get down, hunched up in fear trying to get away from the camera. I don’t tolerate this in my stock. I have skittish rats that approach me in the cage and then tear me up if I pick them up, I work to breed that out. The mice weren’t like that at all from what I remember, they were held open-palmed and didn’t even attempt to jump down or act fearful. The rats on the other hand ran from her hand and could barely be contained. Which is fine if they’re feeders and they don’t mind the extra work, but I certainly wouldn’t say they don’t show fear.

[@fizzlepoplemonlime5600]

Loving rodents as much as reptiles and an ex-mouse-owner, it’s wonderful to see how wonderfully you treat your feeders and how kind you are to them. All animals deserve the best life no matter how or why their life is going to end or be for, and y’all understand that and give all life respect

[@evelynstone7995]

I'm from Missouri and I am giving serious consideration to the idea of driving up to Snake Discovery just to buy some pet rats, they are beautiful and many of them seem to be comfortable with handling!

[@MagicMusicSbGl]

when their breeding set up is better than pet smart's display cages: ... edit: YALL IVE NEVER HAD A YT COMMENT GET THIS MANY LIKES WHAAAATTT

[@catherinestott7538]

yes yes yes

[@Dlutheran]

😊

[@gal7710]

You dare compare them to PETSMART?!

[@kateg9437]

The difference is that the animals will only live in the petsmart cages for a few weeks, while these adults will spend their whole lives like this

[@ithewho6603]

@@kateg9437 Right. My heart just dropped and now I don't know if I want to get a snake at all.

[@smallpaws196]

As a rat owner, as much as I love them, I'm pretty okay with feeder rats, as long as it's ethical and the rats are happy, and it is clear that they are here. You have everything so humane with proper enrichment for them. It's very clear that even though all these rats will be is food, they are still cared for. Thank you for being so good with them. Side note: comments are best read with popcorn

[@kam-lw4ez]

If you think this is okay I don't want to see the poor conditions you're keeping your own rats in

[@smallpaws196]

@@kam-lw4ez The only thing wrong with this setup is the space, and they clearly explain why they can't give them enough space. They do everything they can to help with this issue, like rotating the males around so that there are only two or three rats in there at a time.

[@avelynewalk9159]

@@smallpaws196 their "Reason" is that it wouldn't make them enough money :/ so you also support industrial farming of pigs and cows kept in tight spaces?

[@smallpaws196]

@@avelynewalk9159 Their reason is that they wouldn't be able to fit enough in there. They point that out in the video, as I already mentioned. This is the very very best that they, or anyone under the circumstances, can do.

[@avelynewalk9159]

@@smallpaws196 yes because they want to make more money. You're right their reason is they wouldn't be able to fit enough in. And why are they trying to fit as many in as they are? Because it makes them more money lol

[@-jomanad-2626]

The thing I love the most about snake discovery is the fact you can tell they care for all of thare animals, even the feeders, its amazing to see a zoo that really loves the animals thare♡

[@kayleebush5035]

I’ve watched this eight times, but I can’t get enough of it

[@hweori]

i’m not going to lie and say i love this part of snake keeping, but i also realise that snakes and other reptiles need food. this breeding setup at least seems relatively enriching and i know you give the rodents as good of a life as possible

[@WHALEx3]

Don’t be confused, yes this is necessary, but the best life as possible for a rodent is to continue living.

[@hweori]

@@WHALEx3 yes i fully agree, but for feeder rodents this is one of the better set ups i’ve seen

[@parkers9095]

@@WHALEx3 they said in a past video they keep some rodents and find owners for them!

[@poagy]

as someone who keeps rodents and loves snakes as well, i am too glad they at least give enrichment to the rodents.

[@am5173]

I’m glad they’re doing this instead of supporting a business that could neglect them, although this is the reason I don’t own snakes :(

[@ingridisaviolet8498]

I tried to breed rats for my snakes, and the first pair I got, I couldn’t kill them so now they are my pets. They are named Ravioli and Spaghetti because they were originally food 😂

[@phtogrphic]

I love the names

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

What about the snakes? 😅

[@elizabethtripp2153]

I tried to breed mice for my snakes, but even with daily bedding changes, I couldn’t get past the smell

[@nietoperzzszafy2996]

Their names XDDD

[@lowkeymyownzoo8284]

I've done that so many times 😂

[@tadooable]

please do another rodent breeding vid, thank you emily and ed

[@laurenwhite678]

I've probably watched this video around 30 times. I don't know what it is about this video but it's one of my favorites and I watch it almost everytime it shows in my recommended

[@Schainukan]

I honestly have to say, Snake Discovery has the BEST, hands-down, care for their feeder rats&mice I have EVER seen! I am so surprised but glad that you even give them hides, toys, and chew objects. It's so nice to see that you guys treat them humanely and with respect like actual pets!

[@binderyaa]

ikrrr

[@samf8894]

That is a very sad indictment of the appalling conditions feeder animals usually have to endure. Emily & Ed accept that the conditions they're providing still aren't adequate for rats, but are doing it anyway.

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@soniyaahuja3040]

There is almost a guilt in your voice when you are saying these cute animals are "feeder". Please don't feel guilty. You wouldn't kill a Rodent for your self or for fun. (May be for food in deparate times) but you have taken under your care another animal (a snake) that would have hunted and eaten a Rodent or a frog in wild anyway. Since you have taken the Responsibility of this being, you are also responsibile to provide them with proper diet and if that means feeding them these cute rodents then so be it. Deers are cute but they gotta die for lion, insects are cute but they gotta die for frogs and lizards. Such be nature. Don't feel guilty for doing the right thing. Imagine there are people out there keeping their pet dogs on vegan diet. They should be guilty. Not you my love. You are alright.

[@cookie856]

Having breed rabbits for human's consomption, it's a totally normal feeling and it's a good thing. And that makes them great breeders! ^^ See it more as a "I don't like doing it, I don't necessarily wants too but it has to be done".

[@lmanburg765]

(•̀ᴗ•́)و your right love it

[@nikk-named]

A vegan diet is actually okay for dogs... If you make sure your dog likes the food, doesn’t rebel against it and you do your research, it's not such a big deal.

[@zombiepuppu]

@@nikk-named not the best thing . In my opinion, I think dogs should not have a vegan diet. As you said, as long as they are not forced to eat something they don’t like.

[@zombiepuppu]

@@nikk-named no hate towards by the way! I think a vegan diet would be good if the dogs need it! :D !!

[@ferretchick06]

There's a store near me that also stocks their feeders in happy, healthy conditions. They also make wonderful pets (a friend has three) and they're very friendly. They let people wash their hands and interact with them as a form of enrichment and socialization. Actually they're so well cared for I was surprised when the owner said it was their feeder stock. Since my partner won't let me adopt a 'rodent' it's a great way to give a sweet rat some awesome cuddles and play. Thanks for showing it can be done right ❤

[@breidowell]

I’m very happy to see people treat all animals so well and with integrity. I understand many of these mice/rats are food but…I mean…in the end we all are….right??! 😒 but that doesn’t mean they need to be treated poorly or don’t deserve good, happy, calm lives while they are here ❤ and the little fuzzies (fuzzy pinkies) are sooooooo cute!!!! I’ve had several pet rodents and love ‘em but snakes love to eat ‘em too and that’s ok. Thanks for being humane, loving and kind breeders ❤ love your channel

[@dawolfe4558]

As someone who has kept many rats as pets, I can say with-ought a shadow of doubt these rats and mice look incredibly healthy! clear eyes and nose, active, friendly and well socialized, with such healthy coats too! While it is sad they are mostly food, it is wonderful that they are given such a comfy life, with quality food and loving accommodations. I love my rats and mice, but my snake needs to eat too!

[@snpdrg0n]

I know someone who had a snake (corn, I believe) and yet she refused to feed it because the thawed food was 'gross'. I mean, if you can't handle dead animals, don't get a snake, you know? She didn't have it very long; she ended up getting two bearded dragons and housing them together, but I don't think she had them very long either.

[@skrubknight884]

@@snpdrg0n beardies need to eat meat as well to have a healthy diet, so yeah, not a good pet owner there. if she was so grossed out by feeding them meat she should have just gotten a herbivorous lizard like an uromastyx or something, or just a cat

[@mattuwu9978]

When I saw the coats I was shocked with how shiny they were. None of their noses or ears looked even mildly irritated (which I see a lot in pet stores). It’s more amazing that they’re paying enough attention to recognize which mice/rats are better parents to help with a healthier breeding lineage.

[@kearstinnorton4524]

I know this is primarily a reptile channel but I would love to see more about the breeding and updates on litters and the genetics and things like that :) it’s obvious the care and love that’s put into these animals just as much as the reptiles and it’s really refreshing to see :)

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@Merly3333]

As someone who used to breed Fancy rats for pets, this set up is wonderful for animals that are breeders. I love that you love them too. I also love that there is one someone loves and has become a lifelong working pet.

[@virginiamae4777]

I'm a rodent/reptile owner and this is AMAZING this is the best rodent breeding set up I've ever seen 🥺 and you're so sweet to them too!!

[@Reaganreads]

I told myself: “Don’t fall in love, they’re feeders.” But that didn’t last long..

[@fourearwolf3315]

That’s exactly what I was going through

[@Marballs-]

Me too

[@animaldiscovery2838]

Me two there so cute😁🥺😁

[@thekameha1]

Same and Im now researching how to take care of a rat

[@chasejames1782]

My first rats were supposed to be feeder breeders for my snake.. then I fell in love with the rats and rehomed the snake to a very caring owner. Those rats are long gone buti still have 10 pets rats and a bunch of babies that will be pets

[@_adelaide_rose_]

My cousins are the same way with their chickens. My aunt did not like the way meat chickens were treated so she raises her own. She gives them a great living space and respects them. So glad these guys are treated the same! :) It is a little sad that they are gonna die. :'( Gotta feed those snakes tho!

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

They would be dying and getting eaten in the wild anyway, so give them the happiest, most uninterrupted life you can beforehand

[@_adelaide_rose_]

@@CoRLex-jh5vx Exactly! :)

[@keketski5430]

I believe the better the life of the prey the better it feeds the predator

[@C.Woodford]

@@keketski5430 yep! You are going to get a better quality higher nutrition feeder from these rodents then you would ever get from other feeder breeders. This is because you are putting in high quality food and nutrition which gets you a higher quality feeder out.

[@keketski5430]

@@C.Woodford ohhh so it does do something

[@Dreegon1486]

Even though these animals are just breeders and not in the best conditions, you still treat them the best they can get in these homes, thanks

[@MartellaNutella]

As a rat owner, I very much appreciate the care give them, even if they are to be feeders. They should still have happy little lives! And rats are incredibly smart ❤ thank you Emily

[@Talidischaos]

This was a hard ep to watch, since we have rats for pets, but she’s treating them well, they look healthy and well feed, and “life need things to live.” So to speak

[@msiobhanhiggs]

Help! it's again...

[@espinogena]

I agree and honestly my biggest thing is the fact that she has so many rare colors and breeds that I can never find 😭

[@frostynoms5517]

Bidet, fellow critter!!! Glad to see one here of all places!

[@mercerholt8299]

Such is the nature of life. Honestly I'm just glad they get to live a comfortable life before being made food.

[@Thegreatcrowlord]

Ive got two in a 4 story 3 ft wide cage

[@AceNinjaViking]

As an owner of pet rats, it made me very happy to hear your disclaimer on rat cage size and to actually tell people what great pets they make. Not enough people even know that they make such good pets, and I've seen plenty of reptile people treat them just as food and not put any effort into giving the feeders as good a life as possible, so thank you for your kindness towards ALL of your animals.

[@taranorris1181]

I agree! Before I got into snakes I wanted rats so bad! The only reason i didnt get them was because of their life span. I'm too soft to have something that only lives a few years and snakes live forever😅 but man are they awesome misunderstood little guys for sure! Those babies were killing me😭😭😭

[@HANNN3R]

I love that you respect and care for every single animal, even those that are going to eventually be food. I'm so happy that you got your racks!!

[@Iamalesbianlmao]

This setup is so much more ethical than the other setups I’ve seen.

[@conniestilwell4545]

You will probably end up selling a bunch as pets now that everyone has seen their patterns and colors. "Feeders"😉

[@Slothth]

This is what I was wondering about - why breed fancy breeds like rexs and hairless if they’re just feeders? They could easily sell them as pets too.

[@conniestilwell4545]

@@Slothth Maybe if you went in and asked for a special friendly "feeder " and maybe make air quotes they will get your meaning. She didn't mention how to get one for a pet. Maybe you just ask🤷

[@Moonlight-rx2lv]

Hi

[@Moonlight-rx2lv]

Hi

[@SnakeDiscovery]

I'd love that actually!! We keep a secret bin behind the counter with "pet quality" rats just for people who want a fancy color or variety ;)

[@snakeguy76]

As some one who has raised mice and rats using the same types of racks with the watering system. If they don't have one put a small drain in the tubs. If those pins get stuck in the open position the tub will slowly fill overnight and drown the rats. And there is nothing more gross then a tub filled with dead bloated rats.

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@drealeadragon]

As a pet rat owner this may be one of the most horrifying things I've ever pictured yikes my dude. Thanks for the heads up though I'm going to keep that well in mind when buying cages >.

[@Ashiicatt]

You’re really doing the best that you can with the demand and the need for rodents in the reptile world. You’re making sure the parents are good and that the rodents are happy with enrichment and the best possible home that you can give them. You’re not overstuffing bins but still allowing them to be in a community. Thank you for being as ethical as possible because it is a necessary evil

[@kipess7156]

I love that you are so sweet to these babies. Just goes to show that the circle of life doesn't always have to be cruel.

[@lemonpaperplanes]

Think of it like this guys, would you rather their setup in smaller bins where the rodents are happy and healthy or would you rather they consistently buy from other rodent breeders who might keep their breeder rats in worse conditions just to keep up with food demands their snakes need to survive?

[@thestudio66]

*Thank you* for commenting this, it's *important* that people realize these facts!

[@thatkewldino7398]

there not happy tho- rats NEED climbing space, i understand that this is one of the better care for breeders but tbh it’s not great. 😕

[@nuzz]

That’s an amazing idea! I hope that your comment gains more attraction so that this idea can be viewed by Snake Discovery. For anyone wondering yes I do understand that these animals will be eaten by snakes and other reptiles, but just because they are feeders doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve the same care as companion rodents.

[@raerohan4241]

@@thatkewldino7398 Tbh it's a better setup than the vast majority of breeders out there. If anyone's discontent with it, they can pioneer a system where the rats are in pet quality setups but are still profitable themselves, instead of uselessly complaining about it.

[@loboguara7887]

@@thatkewldino7398 You're right, but you can't really keep them all in great conditions when you have this much carnivore animals to feed. I mean, ofc the bins could be at least twice maybe three times this size and probably breed the same amount of rodents in that room, but it's still better than what most labs/feeder breeders do. The conditions are improving. It's a lot of rodents to have, so the conditions won't realistically be much better than this, and if you have less rodents, the snakes/other carnivore animals will be hungry. It's a necessary evil if you want to breed/rescue lots of carnivore animals that happen to eat rodents/small animals

[@dixiecupps320]

This shows how much you guys care. Giving even the feeders you breed enrichment and care and watching out for their needs. Also I could watch those rats and mice and soft furs playing and running around forever

[@ellenandjames1404]

Deleted I tried to talk about mice, everyone explained how the rats are treated well. I watched a male mouse, pregnant female mouse, and another female mouse put together. That's crazy, but whatever, you win.

[@GarmrKiDar]

@@ellenandjames1404 they say explicitly that the males are rotated periodically for breeding purposes; they're not permanently housed with the females, so most of the time each habitat has only two females.

[@urgae9125]

@@ellenandjames1404 no one else agreed with you, so you liked your own comment. Watch the video, they literally say they don't keep the males in there any longer than it takes for procreation.

[@ellenandjames1404]

@@GarmrKiDar They said that about the rats.

[@ellenandjames1404]

@@urgae9125 For rats, yes. Oh, I liked my own comment instantly, because why not?

[@Hi_Im_Akward]

I was a little afraid to click on this video because I used to have pet rats, and rodents are really smart affectionate animals. I'm really happy to see such happy, healthy well socialized rodents and it looks like a very nice set up considering their job.

[@Raven06025]

Kudos on the effort you put into caring for these rodents. I’ve had pet rats and rat breeding projects for many years, and love how you’re able to strike a balance here. You have some beautiful ones growing and and they look healthy and well adjusted and not flighty and petrified of people… which frankly, makes it easier on everyone as a feeder animal too.

[@SynHalloween13]

Yea its upsetting. But it's not like this wouldn't happen in the wild. In the wild they would have to survive the elements and scavenge for food. Here they can eat, play, sleep worry free until it's time. Still shitty but if you had to pick a poison, I would rather have shelter and food and companions. It's a cushy circle of life instead of the harsh one.

[@heatherlynnrigaud7385]

I've got to share a funny story. We have a one yr old Ball Python who's a bit of a fussy eater. (Shocking, I know) We've taken to showing her this video while we're thawing her rats to give her some inspiration. It works so well; She gets so excited and gobbles the rat down right away. We call this video her 'cooking show.' Thank you so much, SD, for helping us and her.

[@slightlydistressedslug6627]

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[@C.Woodford]

@@slightlydistressedslug6627 the snake gets exited about the lice rats is what i think thwy are saying, which means they eat their frozen thawed one no problem

[@catbatrat1760]

Animals are such freaking weirdos, and I for one wouldn't have it any other way. :)

[@valeriepark9444]

That is FREAKING ADORABLE

[@krazykayscomputerrepairs1989]

That's hilarious and sooo adorable!

[@kevinvest9693]

Emily is such a positive and excited person. She's helped me discover my love for reptiles. Now i want a snake when i move out! My roommate has a phobia of snakes.

[@kaylalugo2075]

I honestly know nothing about rodent breeding but I know for sure you are treating those animals right to the best of y’all’s abilities

[@KaylaChan90]

It's no different than how we raise livestock for our own food, which a lot of us also don't want to think about the behind the scenes part. What's important is not making them suffer until it's time for that, and it's clear ya'll care more about these rodents than a lot of companies do about their chickens and cows and such.

[@pjsk_gachafan845]

some people don't eat meat though

[@ettinakitten5047]

That's one thing I like about buying beef from a local farmer we know. We've visited his farm (even gave him a feral cat we were fostering because she didn't seem likely to ever adjust to the pet life), and we've seen that his cattle, while wary of strangers like us, seem to genuinely like and trust him. When we buy beef from him, we know we're getting meat from an animal that had a good life.

[@jackierocha5096]

And that’s where advocating with our wallets can really make a difference, the more that people buy free range or cage free chicken eggs for example shows companies that there is a growing demand for food sources coming from better conditions and if the companies that do use the more cruel methods don’t change their ways then it’s going to hurt their business badly, refusing to buy eggs in general won’t send a message to corporations that you want humane conditions for their livestock because they won’t be able to see that(because if they aren’t able to see their cage free competitors are gaining more and more customers then them then they won’t get the message that they should change their practices). Holding signs can only get us so far in getting the humane treatment these livestock animals deserve, and although nobody likes talking about how we basically support breeding animals just to be food for some of us we should at least be comfortable talking about ways to make sure that these animals have a good quality of life before it’s time for them to be sent to our stores. I think it’s great that Ed & Emily are taking the time to explain everything about how intelligent the rodents are and how the proper care of them for being companions is vastly different then what they are doing, along with them touching up on the whole getting rodents from test labs and the uncertainty of if they were apart of the control group or not. It gives the reptile community a place where they can actively show with their wallets better treatment for their pets food source.

[@KaylaChan90]

@@kfallon862 How about you don't eat it because you don't want to, and I eat it when I (rarely) do want to? Like normal people who have different tastes and view points.

[@KaylaChan90]

@@kfallon862 Well top question is, reguardless of what people eat, if they change up their diet suddenly, it can have effects on their body. People switching from eating meat to Vegan/Vegetarian and the opposite way, it can cause dietary issues. that's why it's eat what you want/are used to. If you change what you want to eat, to be honest, people should talk talk to their doctor first.

[@beeb0unce]

It’s nice to see that these guys are sold as pets too. They’re sooo pretty and it’s amazing you’re providing a place for people to possibly get well bred, healthy rats in y’all’s area!!

[@Tallthinks]

Im a little sad to see this video.. because my hamster died overnight recently... it's still a good video tho.

[@C.Woodford]

@@Tallthinks sorry for your loss. Ive owned 3 hamsters in the past and i have one currently and each one passing is so hard so I can imagine how your feeling.

[@Tallthinks]

@@C.Woodford im also sorry for your losses.. i feel so bad because in his last moments i was asleep.. i can imagine he is watching over me in heaven. With all of my other pets..

[@C.Woodford]

@@Tallthinks trust me it's so much better on you when they pass when your asleep, because he was probably getting ready to go to sleep aswell so he would have passed peacefully. A few of mine have gone whist I'm awake and with them in not so peaceful ways and it makes it so so so much harder on you.

[@Tallthinks]

@@C.Woodford thats true..

[@tamaradavis2276]

Everyone has to eat and these rodents are given more consideration and care than most food produced for people.

[@andybartholamew2104]

When I get all the clutter out of my room, I might just buy some rats or mice off of you. As pets. I used to have some pet mice, and a hamster. I had ten mice at one point. I miss them. But, as you know, they have short life spans, so unfortunately, they're no longer here. And it's been some time since the last of them have passed. I buried them all in my garden, which is just outside my bedroom window. So, they help feed the plants that are in there. Sorry for this really long essay lol.

[@annarainexo]

This is the most humane rodent breeding setup I have ever seen. You guys take the time to enrich and love these animals, even if they are only a small piece of the circle of life and food chain❤️ Through this video you treated them with the same love and respect I’ve seen you show to your personal reptiles and other animal friends. Breeders should take notes from how to run a sustainable, responsible and respectful environment for their animals.

[@auddydoe8358]

I’m just putting this on every video til it gets noticed, but Emily, Ed, and Rex should be Loki variants for Halloween. Awesome little family costumes

[@venusvirgo2329]

this needs to be boosted bc this is the best idea

[@ghostking7853]

That would be amazing

[@laraburgundy]

Oh my gosh that would be perfect!

[@sleepy8876]

LOKI REX

[@VidralliaArchives]

I had this exact thought when I saw that episode.

[@noname.6665]

I just see that one mouse or rat just trying to escape or jumping in the background in one of the bins, and it's hilarious 😂

[@acidtrip420]

Im so impressed, ive put off watching this video for a while in my binge watch because i love rats SO MUCH and i was scared it would make me sad but this is genuinely the best set up ive seen for feeder rats, not to mention the most spoiled and well bred feeders ive ever seen. Though some of those i wish i could buy... Not to five to a snake.. they are too pretty and sweet 😢

[@Lyysabeth]

As someone who used to own rats I have to say im impressed with your breeding set-up. Even with them being feeders, they honestly look like pet quality rats. Like they look very friendly!

[@samf8894]

How is it possible pet rat keepers believe this?!? It's nowhere near enough space or enrichment. Even Emily accepts that in the video!

[@Lyysabeth]

@@samf8894 for a feeder breeding set up. Yeah it's pretty damn amazing. The fact they get enrichment alone is impressive for feeder breeder. Plus the fact they are all quite friendly. It is impressive so see. Its not perfect, duh. But this isn't a pet set up. It is a food production.

[@foullily8325]

Emily was talking about having bad enclosures for the rats and mice, but these are pretty amazing for just feeder/breeding rodents. Ive seen some horrid conditions for "fodder" because they are just that, so people dont care about their living space :(

[@steveshermer7595]

A happy rat is a healthy rat and a healthy rat makes good food. That's beyond the basic respect for life... So, it just makes sense to give them a place to grow and breed and live their best life.

[@mikikiki2259]

I've seen worse conditions for actual pets! I adore Emily's kindness for her rats, it's so refreshing to see. This video also has good information to know for rat care!

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@BPJD2004]

I breed rats for my snakes since store bought feeders are expensive now ($7 and up for a larger medium feeder, since that's what my biggest snakes eat), and I try to give them the best life I can. My main breeders are my pets (Charlie, Peggy, J-Lo, Thunderbolt. Rosie and Lakenvelder are still growing).

[@tinahaynes175]

you treat your "pet food" better than I've seen some stores treat their bagged kibble. Thank you for being the wonderful people that you are!!

[@tigereyemusic]

Be very careful with those watering lines/nozzles. If there are no drain-holes in the cages/bins, a faulty water nozzle (or one that gets bedding trapped in it) can completely fill a cage with water overnight and drown anything in it. A lot of places that used to use them went back to bottles because of this.

[@birdwithabrokenwing]

That’s an interesting thought- for a possible solution, could you maybe drill a couple of small holes in the front of each bin, near the bottom (a bit like they do to the snake bins for air flow, but less and smaller holes) to let the water drain out of the bin to prevent them drowning if the nozzle was to malfunction? Do you think that would work?

[@Undomaranel]

@@birdwithabrokenwing It would work only if there is secure mesh so the rodents don't enlarge the hole and there is some sort of gutter, otherwise you just wind up flooding and drowning those below. Also, those mesh drains could easily be clogged by damp bedding or damp droppings.

[@tuvelat7302]

Maybe an emergency drain hole/holes in the bins just in case?

[@canaryinacoalmine_]

I actually started crying when u showed that there was gonna be enrichment thank you so so so much for being so great to them, as a mouse and rat owner with them being pets! Thank you so so much

[@defnedemirhan2218]

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[@ThiriousStringMagic]

Would love love love to see more rodent content. They're just so cute! I personally am really fond of mice for some reason. I love the colors and the different textures and personalities.

[@1024998]

I really appreciate that your feeders are still treated will kindness, care, and respect even though they are meant to food. They get to enjoy their life (however long that may be) and don’t have to be overly stressed.